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    The official M2 Stumpjumper (hardtail) thread

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    92 Stumpjumper M2, bought in the spring of 1993 for $750. It came rigid, I added the Future Shock a few months later.

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    <a href="http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/green814/Bikes/?action=view&current=MTB001.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/green814/Bikes/MTB001.jpg" border="0" alt="'96 M2Comp"></a>

    '96 M2 Comp: Full XT w/ XTR F & R Der., Scott LFX Bar, C.C> Headset, Mavic 717 Sunset rims ("road rides"), Rolf Satellites (trail rides)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac
    Is that a Mauitou SX fork? That's what came with my bike.
    It's a SX/TI.My stock Judy XC had started leaking from the cartridge, so instead of rebuilding I bought a new fork, a closeout '98 model.

    I have thought about getting an aftermarket kit to rebuild the Judy.

    Where are the pictures????!!!!!

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    This is my 1995 StumpJumper M2 FS, purchased new in Spring 1995. When I bought it I had the GripShifts and RockShox Mag 21 swapped out for '94 XT RapidFire shifters (takeoffs) and a Manitou 4 w/ the Al steerer.

    Since then it has been through several forks, drivetrains, wheelsets and just about everything else. The only original part (aside from the frame) was the front derailleur, a Deore XT, but that was removed when I went singlespeed.

    I liked the M2 so much that when it was time for a new hardtail I had a Kent Erisken Titanium frame built based on the M2 geometry, but that accommodated a 100mm fork.

    Recent Photos:






    Some older photos (pre-singlespeed):






    During a rebuild:


    This is what an M2 chain stay looks like after around 13 years with no protector:


    The M2 is now a singlespeed with the following specs:

    Size: 18"
    Color: Black
    Weight: 22 lbs.

    Fork: RockShox SID Race (2007)
    Headset: Cane Creek S7
    Stem: Thomson Elite 120mm
    Handlebars: Syncros/Easton EA70
    Grips: Yeti Speedgrips
    Brakes: Avid Single Digit 7
    Levers: Avid Speed Dial 7
    Derailleurs: none
    Cog: 16t or 18t
    Chain: SRAM PC-1
    Crankset: Shimano Deore XT (FC-M751)
    Bottom Bracket: Shimano (BB-ES70)
    Pedals: Shimano M540
    Rims: DT Swiss XR 4.1
    Hubs: Shimano Deore XT (M750)
    Spokes: DT Swiss single/double butted
    Tires : Panaracer Fire XC Pro (2.1")
    Saddle: Selle Italia Flite Titanium
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite 330/27.2mm (shimmed)
    Other: Surly Singulator

    There are several more photos of the M2 on my site: Crossgeared.com: M2 Photo Album

    Want more? This is a time-lapse video of an end-of-season rebuild in 2007:

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    Digging through my old photos got me thinking about when I first bought the M2. In the Spring of 1995 my brother and I decided to buy new bikes. I had a rigid '94 Mongoose Hilltopper SX and he had a '93 Trek 930 with a Manitou 2.

    I recall that I was comparing the '95 Trek 8700 SHX and the '95 StumpJumper M2 FS. The 8700 had carbon main tubes with aluminum lugs, and the 8700 SHX was raw carbon and polished aluminum lugs. It was a nice looking bike. In the end I decided to go with the M2 even though it was more than the 8700 SHX after I upgraded the fork and shifters. After that I worked all summer at a pizza place to pay off the 90-days same as cash deal.

    In retrospect the M2 was a good decision. My brother decided on a Trek 8700, which was rigid and with copper colored lugs. He swapped the rigid fork for a Manitou 4 as well. Anyway, his 8700 went back to trek once or twice with lug bond failures and finally died in '00 when the down tube exploded. To be fair, the down tube was crushed when the 8700 got between a garage and a roof rack. That said, it wasn't the most reliable frame. Based on the missing paint and gouges in my M2, I would have killed a carbon frame a few times over. So, in the end my M2 is still on the trails and his 8700 is an expensive (but cool looking) wall hanging. An '00 Litespeed Pisgah replaced the 8700, but he has since purchased a '98 S-Works (M2 XX) hardtail frame in 'Team Red'.
    Dave

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    A few pics of mine. I recently converted it to single speed after finally buying a new bike. The frame is a '96 S-works that I bought new and have ridden ever since. I had to pull the FSX off last year due to cracks in the brake arch. I'm actually riding it more often than my StumpJumper lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac
    Do you have the geometry chart to the bike?...
    I don't have any diagrams or official measurements for the M2, I did the measurements on mine and used that as the basis for the new hardtail. A very easy way to measure frame geometry/angles is with the iHandy Level/Carpenter iPhone app. FWIW, it was and is not uncommon for manufacturer published dimensions and geometries to be way off.

    The price you paid seems pretty reasonable to me, but pricing used bikes is always difficult. As far as repairs and upgrades go I'd probably focus on the drivetrain. If the drivetrain is as abused as it appears to be then in addition to replacing the middle ring on the crank, I would check the wear on the remaining rings and the cassette. Most good shops will have a tool to do this quickly and easily (like this). I would assume it needs a chain. FYI, if either the cassette or rings are worn and you only replace one, the new component and chain will wear very quickly. You can probably find good deals on close-out cranksets, cassettes and chains at one of the online stores. If you replace the crankset I'd also replace the bottom bracket (you may have to anyway).

    As far as the rest goes, I've always liked Yeti Speedgrips, though lock-on grips seem to be in style now. The headset probably just needs to be cleaned and repacked; I like to use Park Tool Polylube 1000.
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    Here was a singlespeed of mine...




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    Bought this new in 1996, since then I've replaced everything except the crank, the large chainring, front derailleur, rear derailleur, headset/stem spacers, seat post clamp, the skewers and the grip shifters. The shot in front of the box is right before I broke it down to ship it home after RAGBRAI and some cross country riding at Sugar Bottom in Iowa (fun place!).

    I just wait for things to break and then poach replacement parts for cheap. Great frame if you don't mind 26er hard tails and no disc tabs, super stiff if that's what you like, definitely a fun project bike. Rebuilding an old bike and trying to repair broken parts is half the fun, like legos for adults.


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    Looks like it needs a little work, but nothing you can't fix for less than $50 and an hour of time.

    You can buy new derailleur pulleys at your LBS or online. I've replaced mine a few times due to rust. The last time I found a "9 speed" set for XTR in the LBS parts bin and put those on, I thought it might cause some trouble, but it works fine. Here's a lower pulley at Jenson http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...lley+Unit.aspx

    Try removing the rust and straightening the teeth on those chainrings, but I doubt that'll give ideal performance. New chainrings are fairly cheap, you have 4-bolt so it shouldn't be too hard to find a suitable replacement. Just make sure you get the correct thickness, probably best to take it to the LBS and see what they have sitting around.

    Regarding the front derailleur, I'm not sure if this is relevant for your bike, but watch out for this: Replacing Outdated Front Derailleur.

    Post up any updates/upgrades.

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    1996 Stumpjumper A1 FS

    Not an M2 (A1, instead) but it's a Stumpjumper!

    Set up as SS and geared.
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    There was a MINT lime green 97 stumpy pro that sold on ebay last week for $500. I bid $450 and lost. Probably for the best as the wife would have been if it appeared in the garage. It was my dream bike I used to see in the local shop that year.

    I'll post the pics later, the thing was gorgeous.

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    I have a red S-works M2 hardtail frame that says "Team" on the top tube. I'm wondering if anyone knows what's the difference of the "Team" frame. I bought the bike in 99 with S-Works spec parts (the shop I went to ran out of '99 S-works HT's so I opted for this mystery frame).

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    Does it look like the on in my post above?

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    Yes, but mine says "Team" on the top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donoman
    I have a red S-works M2 hardtail frame that says "Team" on the top tube. I'm wondering if anyone knows what's the difference of the "Team" frame. I bought the bike in 99 with S-Works spec parts (the shop I went to ran out of '99 S-works HT's so I opted for this mystery frame).
    Its likely the same as the regular S-works frame and sold to the bike shop as the racing season wound down that year. Or the team members were already testing the next year's frames so they didn't need it

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    Mine does too. If I remember the red Team frames were only sold as frame and fork sets, not as complete bikes. The shop I bought it from told me there were some minor geometry differences from the frames on the completes, since these were the "race frames" but I can't confirm it.I bought mine as a late year close out and it came with the FSX carbon Judy, headset, seatpost, and Titanium Stem and Seat clamp. I paid around $1200 for it in '96. Absolutely the best bike I have ever owned and I still ride it several times a week to this day.

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    Yeah, awesome. I loved that bike but thought it was a little bit too small for me, so I swapped all the parts onto my Epic pro frame that I bought recently. I'm thinking differently now, because I've realized I've been sitting too high. Now I'm thinking I'll revive the M2 S-works frame again since I love riding hard tails so much. It's probably the best bike purchase I made too. I bought the frame and all the components for $1200 in 1999, I think.

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    I found a few bike catalogs for these bikes, some are in German though:

    1990 http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekatal...ec.Bikes90.pdf
    1994 http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekatal...ec.Bikes94.pdf
    1995 http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekatal...ec.Bikes95.pdf
    1996 http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekatal...alerbook96.pdf

    And of course bikepedia for original specs, just replace the year with whichever year you're interested in.

    http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...nd=Specialized

    This looks like yours ddac: http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...Comp&Type=bike

    I just watched the video, that's hilarious! I can't believe you got that to work so smoothly, excellent.

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    Stump M2 top tube length?

    Anyone know the top tube length for ~1995 vintage? Didn't see geometries on the bikepedia link or the german catalouges. thanks!

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    Mine is a 1996. You need me to measure the top tube? They all came in different sizes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chairthruster
    Anyone know the top tube length for ~1995 vintage? Didn't see geometries on the bikepedia link or the german catalouges. thanks!
    If you scroll down in the '96 German link to page 11, you will see frame specifications! I would think from '95 to '96 the specs should be pretty close.

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    Anyone have catalogs for the '99 model year? I would be interested in seeing the geometry of the '99 SJ.

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    thanks!

    thanks for pointing me to the top tube data!

    Donoman, thanks for offering to measure, but I think I'm all set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chairthruster
    thanks for pointing me to the top tube data!

    Donoman, thanks for offering to measure, but I think I'm all set.
    No problem! I just wish I still had my original catalog(long gone!) still, it was in English! lol

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    Any idea what it's worth?

    My brother just built up a new HT and we're left with this M2 frame. He's an M2 nut but we're not sure what the demand is. Anyone know what we should list it for?
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    They go for anywhere from $50 to $120 on ebay depending on size and color. Just yesterday a baby blue one ended at $50 and a lime green one ended at $100. They were both 17"-18" sizes.

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    They would still be sweet frames if they had disc brake mounts on them. Unfortunately I'm also having trouble with my S-works '96 HT frame because I want to build it into a singlespeed, which would require me to buy new wheels, but if I were gonna buy new wheels I'd want to get disc brake hubs. Boo!

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    ... and if we just ... 1994 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 FS

    Hi all,

    I have a 1994 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 FS I'd like to learn more about, specifically the exact manufacturers specifications and the metal matrix composite.

    The Frame seems to have a 23" top tube and a 18.5" seat tube, both measured center-to-center. I have found information on the internet stating that this size top tube should have a larger seat tube?

    If anyone has the manufacturers spec page for the '94's please let me know where to find it.

    In any case I may be interested in selling it and have no idea of its value after so many years. It has some upgrades such as a Girvin fork and Onza brakes, so I'm curious. I need to begin with the specs though.

    Thanks

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    Here's mine. I think it's the best looking Stumpy Specialized ever put together. Now hanging on my wall while I use its wheels for my Blizzard. I really need to eBay this thing.


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    i didn't realize their would be a club for such antiques. i have the exact same frame as the blue (flintk) built up (xtr/xt/judy). i'm stepping up to big wheel version. got an eye on the sj comp 29r. was planning on turning other into SS. but if anybody's interested adding another treasure to their collection, i can be persuaded to part with her. she's been real good. not mint but ready to ride (in fact tomorrow nite). more details (pics) if interested.

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    Yeah, I'll also sell my 17" S-works M2 HT Team frame. Send me a PM if anyone's interested.

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    Hey my Dad gave me his 1996 Stumpjumper A1 FS, the exact one that GlassTrain has, and everything runs great except for fork, which is shot. Can I still buy a modern fork to put on there or does it have to be something special.
    If I do need something special could anyone provide options for forks with 100-110m of travel (I think thats what it orginally had) that would be great.\
    Thanks in advance
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    donoman, what year is your S-works frame?

    freaknunu, are you sure it came with a 100mm fork?

    My '99 came with an 80mm Manitou fork. Did most M2s came with 80mm forks? I really like the geometry of this bike, but my fork is beginning to leak.

    Can you guys recommend a modern fork (or one from a few years ago), that would work? I'm mainly looking for:
    - 80mm
    - V brake is a must
    - under 4lbs.....preferably closer to 3.5lbs (my fork is 3.5lbs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac
    freaknunu, are you sure it came with a 100mm fork?

    My '99 came with an 80mm Manitou fork. Did most M2s came with 80mm forks? I really like the geometry of this bike, but my fork is beginning to leak.

    Can you guys recommend a modern fork (or one from a few years ago), that would work? I'm mainly looking for:
    - 80mm
    - V brake is a must
    - under 4lbs.....preferably closer to 3.5lbs (my fork is 3.5lbs)
    you know I'm not sure but by looking at it I would gauge that it was a 100mm fork.
    But I know that the bike is IDENTICAL to the bike GlassTrain has in the pictures near the middle of the page.
    But yeah me criteria are the same for the fork.
    V-Brake and preferably under 4 pounds
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    Freak,

    The Quadra 21R on mine is stock and I'd say it's under an 80mm travel fork, but one elastomer is starting to really crumble in one of the stacks. At rest it has a 16.75 inch (roughly 425mm) length from the axle to the fork crown with the fork fully extended out.

    You would probably have to look really close at any manufacturer's specs as to the axle to crown lengths of whatever fork you look at. I'd say anything over 435mm is probably pushing it, but I'm no forking expert.
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    Back then, 80mm was a lot of travel... that's what my bike came with (it was a Manitou SX-Ti fork).

    I think my frame is a '96

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    "Team" M2 With Carbon Judy

    Quote Originally Posted by dperalta
    Mine does too. If I remember the red Team frames were only sold as frame and fork sets, not as complete bikes. The shop I bought it from told me there were some minor geometry differences from the frames on the completes, since these were the "race frames" but I can't confirm it.I bought mine as a late year close out and it came with the FSX carbon Judy, headset, seatpost, and Titanium Stem and Seat clamp. I paid around $1200 for it in '96. Absolutely the best bike I have ever owned and I still ride it several times a week to this day.

    David
    The red Team frames were only sold as frame and fork, and I grabbed the same componenets with it and added the following:
    Race Face Cranks
    Titanium Bottom Bracket (cant remember make)
    White Industries Titanium Rear Hub
    Paul "Oil Can" front hub
    Bontrager Bars
    Paul "Love" lever brake handles.
    XTR
    Wilderness Trail Titanium seat

    And now im told its worth about 250 bucks!


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    Nowadays, what's comparable to the Manitou SX series (in terms of weight & performance). 80mm & V brakes please!!!

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    I would probably look into a 80mm shock from Fox or a Rock Shox SID. I keep looking for an older SID that can be 63mm or 80mm travel, not that the '96 is being ridden much anymore now that I have an Epic.

    DDAC: What happened to all your early posts in this thread?

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    Chris, long story...but I was being stalked and decided to take down my pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac
    Chris, long story...but I was being stalked and decided to take down my pictures.
    Understand. Hope all is well now!

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    I have a 96 18" stumpy HT at home that needs a good home...
    I tried it out as my first SS convert. loved it, but then I ended up stripping the stuff off and got a SS specific frame.

    not going to lie... it needs some love

    Ill post pics if anyone is interested....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddac
    donoman, what year is your S-works frame?

    freaknunu, are you sure it came with a 100mm fork?

    My '99 came with an 80mm Manitou fork. Did most M2s came with 80mm forks? I really like the geometry of this bike, but my fork is beginning to leak.

    Can you guys recommend a modern fork (or one from a few years ago), that would work? I'm mainly looking for:
    - 80mm
    - V brake is a must
    - under 4lbs.....preferably closer to 3.5lbs (my fork is 3.5lbs)
    Last year I put a Fox F32 RLC 80mm on my '99 Stumpjumper. It is a revelation. It absolutely transformed the bike compared to the dull Judy XC. It has both V-mounts and disk mounts. So... I can now upgrade the front wheel to disk whenever I want. It sucks that I can't run a disk in the rear, but whatever.

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    Guys, I put my frame on E-bay in case you're interested:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-Specialized...item35a4c73bf2
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    Anyone know of a rear disc brake adapter for this frame?

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    Heres my old m2, I’m thinking of going full rigid, road tires and single speed with it this spring.



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    I gotta say, I still love this old M2 frame, I just won't let it die

    Took it out today for the first serious ride since Utah a year ago. I sometimes forget how crazy fast this thing is, rode it balls to the walls for about 6 miles today, nearly launched myself into a tree since the trail has been "bettered" since last time I was on it (more random jumps), that was a thrill. I also forgot how stiff the frame is, riding my 2008 fsr comp has gotten me a little too relaxed.

    Now time to look for a new fork for the beast and start racing it again
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    This thread is like a walk down memory lane. I'm getting all nostalgic. The 1996 "Norris Blue" M2 Comp gets "Best of Thread" -- so far, at least!

    Over a dozen years later, those are still sweet-riding hardtails.

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    About fork replacement:

    I know that my bike, a '97, came specced with a head angle a bit steeper than most at the time, 71.5 degrees, when the norm was 71. I'm not sure if this was the first year they steepened that angle, or whether older ones were also built the same.

    Because of this steep angle, I would assume you could put a 100mm fork on it without messing with the handling too much. It would be a little slower handling, but not sluggishly so, because of starting so steep to begin with.

    But I'm no geometry expert, so someone who knows more about the effect of slackening the geometry on the handling, and hopw much longer travel a fork you could use without screwing it up too badly.

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    M2

    I have a 2000 model M2 Comp that i have only this week been converting to singlespeed after retiring my old 94 stumpy.
    I have yet to cable it up but its certainly a lot lighter
    Fitted 2000 SID fork, S Works cranks, S Works Thermo/carbon bars, M2 stem, XT brakes, Mach 1 race wheels, Ritchey post with Specialized seat.
    Uncabled it weighs in approx 9.3 kilo, which I think is about 20 - 21 lbs
    I run it with a Surly tensioner at 32/16.
    Heres a couple of pics from the other night while putting it together. I will put my bar ends on and cable it up tonight I hope. Will get a couple of better pics while out on its maiden ride.





    I also have my 96 M2 S Works 'Team'
    Havent had it built up for a long while as plenty of other projects on the go and its slightly too big for me, but my favourite S Works. Sold my M4 but couldnt let this go.


    These share the shed with several other Stumpjumpers, one M4 and the others steel.
    I also have quite a lot of the catalogues and a couple of dealer tech manuals from the 90's so if you want something particular looked up I will find what I can.
    A lot of the cats have been uploaded to www.retrobike.co.uk just go to the main page and follow the links at the top and you'll find them in the cat section on PDF. Theres a lot of M2 love on there as well.
    Keep this thread going as its nice to see its not all modern all the time.

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    My first real bike, done a lot to it over the years which has added some pounds, but she's still pretty fast!
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    Really liking bikenbeers 92, and eagle824, that pro looks great in the yellow.
    Keep em coming, this threads great.

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    Thanks! I looks a lot better outside in the sun! It's a great bike, i got it in 2000 and am still on the org. rear derailleur, she has a ton of miles on her too! Things are starting to go now, but i can't bring myself to sell it. Prob at least always have the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSWeb
    This thread is like a walk down memory lane. I'm getting all nostalgic. The 1996 "Norris Blue" M2 Comp gets "Best of Thread" -- so far, at least!

    Over a dozen years later, those are still sweet-riding hardtails.
    Thank you! Time to close the thread before anyone objects!

    A lot of sweet rides posted!

    I just wish I had as much riding time now as I did back then.

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    my m2 pro 98 mango.

    The Best.

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    adapter

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    Anyone know of a rear disc brake adapter for this frame?
    A2Z adapter. Works fine, had no issues with it after 3 hard winter rides.

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    Awesome - thanks! Found a seller on ebay that has them for about $40

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    not an m2, can I still play?



    Got it off CL because I wanted a cheap bike to ride around, fell in love with it. Forks shot as is the BB, replacements in the mail as we speak, went with a tora 318 in white to maintain the contrast between frame and fork, single digit 7 brakes and speed dial levers. Couldn't be happier with it thus far

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    My 1994 Stumpy M2. The only new bike I ever owned. Bone stock and original 'cause I hardly ever rode it. Lately I've dusted it off and plan to ride it after addressing the leaking fork, maybe someone could suggest a repair/replacement?

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    Trust me, do not go towards the bright light.....

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    Great thread.. I'll have to take some pics of my '98 team red S-works.

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    Anyone remember what year the M2 came in that rose,pink color. It had a rigid fork stock. It had to be between 92'-95' Im guessing

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdad63
    My 1994 Stumpy M2. The only new bike I ever owned. Bone stock and original 'cause I hardly ever rode it. Lately I've dusted it off and plan to ride it after addressing the leaking fork, maybe someone could suggest a repair/replacement?

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    Wow, so that's what my Stumpy looked like when I first bought it! Forgot about all that grey "Umma Gumma" stuff. Man, it's looks a little different now!

    Back in 2001, I put a Marzocchi Bomber Atom Race on the bike. It increased the travel from 63mm to 80mm which is the max you can go to without voiding the manufacturer's warranty. Any 80mm fork with a 1 1/8" tube would work better than that old Future Shock.
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    DogDad, I had to borrow your pic. Here is the before and after. Still an awesome ride!

    1994 M2 FS Stumpjumper Comp
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    Specialized Phenom Expert saddle
    Mavic Crossride rims/hubs
    Maxxis Crossmark tires


    Keep this thread, and these old school bikes, alive!
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    Even matches my truck.

    98 M2 with 2005 Sid Race. Only parts replaced are the rear rim, cassettes and rings, and handlebar. Everything else is stock, and I still have problems riding other bikes due to the reverse on the rear derailer
    Just another redneck with a bike

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    Great thread! Here's my '98 Stumpy in Dew Green. Out of all the bikes I own, the old Stumpy offers the best fit. It's so comfy whether as an XC bike or in commuter mode.


    I've since acquired other bikes so I gave it a new paint job and converted it into a commuter / grocery getter,
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    Another 98 DG....

    I wondered when a 98 Dew Green would show up. Stay tuned, will have some pics of ours (bought it for my wife, but I'm working on getting it trailworthy again).

    Anyway, on Monday it gets a NOS 2007 SID World Cup, and some XTR950/Mavic 517 wheels arrive on Tuesday.

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    Here's my '91 M2 Purple Haze...



    (more pics here)

    If this bike actually fit me, I'd still be riding it.

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    Wanna sell it?
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    Specialized Stumpy M2 for Sale

    i have a Specialized m2 stumpjumper for sale. not sure of the exact yr but best guess is 94-95. Navy Metallic Blue, size 19. XTR rear d, XT front d w/ XT shifter pods, XT cassette, Judy Shock, Manitou Stem (140mm & BEEFY style), Answer Lite bar (silver), Mavic rims on original XTR hubs - need some lovin. SPD pedals or flat bmx pedals option. $300 OBO. will send pics if interested.

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    I just picked up this Stumpy second hand, i believe it is a 96 FS M2 Comp?

    Can anyone help me out?

    It has XT everything brakes, shifter, and rear . But the front derail is LX ??

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    Angry,

    As I understand it, the first 2 numbers of the serial number on the (can't remember which) bottom bracket or rear drop out will show the year of the bike.

    As for it being the Comp, I can't speak for non US models, but the '96 M2 Comp was only available in the US in Norris Blue (light blue). I posted a picture of my '96 M2 Comp on the first page of this thread. There was a link posted to a German catalog for '96, and they were available in the blue that your bike is, so maybe someone from another "Region" can help more! What area would get "US models", and what areas would get the same as the German models.

    If it is the model that was below the Comp, that was a dark blue here in the US. I know that for a fact because I liked the color better over the Comp, but went with the Comp due to the components. That model was LX for all the components

    Have fun!
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    I also picked up a Stumpjumper FS M2 recently. I don't know crap about it (year, exact model, etc.). My last bike was a Rock Hopper I bought brand new in 1995.

    I have had some really good luck this summer finding bikes. I found a GT Avalanche 2.0 at a Goodwill a few weeks ago.

    Early in the summer, I found this Specialized at a yard sale. The funny thing was, there were three bikes ( The stumpjumper, an old Trek single track and a Giant Rincon, all from the early-mid 90s). The lady wanted $20 each, but I talked her down to $50 for all three. I sold the other two for $50 to someone I know, so I just kept the "free" Stumpy. All were in pretty sad shape. The lady said they were sitting outside for a few years.

    It needs a complete renovation (needs tires, tubes, brakes, grease, etc), but I couldn't beat the price

    If anyone has some info, it would be nice to know.

    Anyway, here it is:




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    I LOVE the Dew Green one, and I was hoping that one would pop up in this thread. Now I remember the year of that model. In 1998, my friend Jon and I decided to hit every shop in Tucson after a ride. There were 22 shops at the time, and I remember seeing one of them in there. That's how I got hooked on Specialized. After that, it was a second helmet, a pair of shoes, and now 3 bikes and a ton of accessories. Totally hooked. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 96m2comp
    Angry,

    As I understand it, the first 2 numbers of the serial number on the (can't remember which) bottom bracket or rear drop out will show the year of the bike.

    As for it being the Comp, I can't speak for non US models, but the '96 M2 Comp was only available in the US in Norris Blue (light blue). I posted a picture of my '96 M2 Comp on the first page of this thread. There was a link posted to a German catalog for '96, and they were available in the blue that your bike is, so maybe someone from another "Region" can help more! What area would get "US models", and what areas would get the same as the German models.

    If it is the model that was Comp, that was a dark blue here in the US. I know that for a fact because I liked the color better over the Comp, but went with the Comp due to the components. That model was LX for all the components

    Have fun!
    Chris
    I did some more research, from bikepedia and scans of the 96 Specialized catalog. Its either the FS M2 Comp or just FS M2 with some component changes. Since its 2nd hand i will prob never know the history.
    All i know is its a great ride, just needs some tuning and maintenance.
    gonna probably change the front calipers to disc system first

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    Here's mine. 1993 M2 FS w/ Future Shock. Nearly stock. Still a great ride. Was thinking going to FS as I'm getting older now.
    Does anyone know the max tire size I can get away with? Maybe a fatter tire will help.
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    And I just got one! Got it from Craigslist, and picked it up yesterday. My shop had a set of green Crankbros Candy SL pedals (I guess they are 2010, as I didn't see them on their site), switched out the tires and tubes (dry rotting), changed out the stem and bar, and put on my Thomson seat post and Rival saddle. The diet Mountain Dew can is there for color comparison for a friend of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrymofo
    I did some more research, from bikepedia and scans of the 96 Specialized catalog. Its either the FS M2 Comp or just FS M2 with some component changes. Since its 2nd hand i will prob never know the history.
    All i know is its a great ride, just needs some tuning and maintenance.
    gonna probably change the front calipers to disc system first
    Glad to hear you are liking the new ride! I know they are great handling and climbing bikes!

    Student: That bikes looks like it hasn't been ridden very much! Great find!

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96m2comp
    Student: That bikes looks like it hasn't been ridden very much! Great find!

    Chris
    Thanks! Yeah, it's been on "Fantasy Island" (a ride in Tucson, AZ) and Tucson Mountain Park for most of its life. Both of these can be very easy on the bike, as seen here. My plan is to take the frame to a paint shop and get some touch-up paint for it. Then, fix the flaws and cover select pieces of the frame with 3M car bra material. Until then, I have my other Stumpy to go crazy on and will take this one on "moderate" rides.
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    98 Dew Green

    Not Stock.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5083998254/" title="CIMG3161 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5083998254_7551063d89_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="CIMG3161" /></a>

    Nice wheels (Mavic 517 on XTR 950 hubs)
    Still 8 speed, but with an Ultegra Long Cage Mech.
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    Fork and front hub
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    The didn't have this in 98:
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    Original stem and headset
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    Not "off the boat"
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    Not sure if this is against the rules, I searched thje FAQs for any info about it and found nothing, but if it is, the admin may feel free to delete this post and do with me what he will.

    But I finally put my M2 up for auction on ebay, here's the link.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150517045404


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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus
    Not sure if this is against the rules, I searched thje FAQs for any info about it and found nothing, but if it is, the admin may feel free to delete this post and do with me what he will.

    But I finally put my M2 up for auction on ebay, here's the link.
    I personally don't mind. Interested to watch the auction and see where it goes. I would like to sell mine as my wife doesn't ride it anymore, but I'm torn because it's still a great bike, and they don't nearly bring the kind of $$$ that they are worth in terms of what a really nice riding rig they are.


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    Yeah, it's amazing just how little bikes like this go for on eBay. I realize it's 13 years old, but I really rode it very little, and it's got better component spec than most bikes out there today for what this one cost new. Might be a bit heavier, but in today's world of 30 lb full suspension rigs, what's the deal?

    I'll be sad to see it go, cause I think it's just a gorgeous bike, but I never did end up riding it much. I think if i'd put a different seat on it, and a shorter stem, I might have enjoyed it more, but I think it's just a shade too big for me, and I realized, I like the way steel bikes ride more.

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    Thought Id join the party and share my 1995 Stumpjumper M2 FS Comp
    It used to be Grunge Grape/Purple but I like it better now in all its naked M2 glory! Photos are back when it was a 1x8.



    Oh and does anyone know what the chainstay length is on this bike? Im trying to find the "magic gear" Thanks!

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    1997 M2 Comp

    I love my 1997 Stumpjumper Comp M2! In 13 years it's never failed me. The only modifications I've made to it are the Ride On gear cables. I changed the seatpost, stem and bars to black just for the look of it. The shock gave out about a year or so ago, and I replaced it with a Dart3 that's been working out very well. The reason I don't buy a new Stumpjumper is because this bike does everything I want it to, every time. No other mountain bike can claim the history that the Stumpjumper has, that's why it will always wear the crown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus
    Here's mine. I think it's the best looking Stumpy Specialized ever put together. Now hanging on my wall while I use its wheels for my Blizzard. I really need to eBay this thing.

    I bought that exact same bike @ Pacific Bicycles in San Francisco in 1997! That's when my addiction truly started.
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    Sure takes me back...

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus
    Not sure if this is against the rules, I searched thje FAQs for any info about it and found nothing, but if it is, the admin may feel free to delete this post and do with me what he will.

    But I finally put my M2 up for auction on ebay, here's the link.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150517045404

    Looks pretty original right down to the Specialized Team tires That was my first front suspension rig and I rode the hell out of it for some years before handing it down to my brother. He quickly got the bug and upgraded to a full suspension a few years back and never rode the M2 much after that.

    Here's a picture of what mine looked like with a few upgrades before I finally sold it last year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flintk
    My brother just built up a new HT and we're left with this M2 frame. He's an M2 nut but we're not sure what the demand is. Anyone know what we should list it for?
    Just bought a complete build of this bike and spent $200. It weighs 23lb.

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    ETT on a 17"

    Does anyone here know what the effective top tube length or ETT is on a 17" 1997 Stumpjumper M2? Thanks!

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    I think she's a '98, came to me in 2001 with a full XTR950 groupo & 517 Mavic rims. The Manitou SX Ti never broke on me (I weigh 175-180 & ride moderately hard) but had plenty of flex.

    Upgraded to a Marzocchi air fork that was a few years old at the time (a 2001 model) and built a Mavic XC 717 rear laced to a King hub. The front went to a ceramic Mavic Crossmax rim brake model that I got for cheap online. Broke/stripped out the seatpost & went with an Easton EA70, along with a Monkey-Lite DH carbon riser bar (25.4). The 8-speed driveline was overhauled 2 weeks ago with a sram 850 11-28 cassette, 890 chain & Race Face team rings along with all cables & housings. The old 950 rings were 26-36-48! The original XTR 950 rear derailler is still going.

    I rode the bike in this weekends 24 hours of old pueblo & fell in love with it again. A total speed-racer mobile, I was making 'brrap-brraaaap' sounds coming out of some corners & washes, grinning from ear to ear. This evening I found myself drooling over some of the new 80mm Fox xc forks to bring this bike into the next decade. This bike is FAST, very responsive and although it can handle technical trails in & around Sedona, I prefer my steel SS with 120mm of travel on the steeps.


    Anyways, here's the pics, sorry she's dirty but haven't had time to clean the bike up from the weekend.

    Edited to add: Weighs in under 24 pounds with 2.1 tires, slime tubes & a heavy (comfortable) seat!









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    Quote Originally Posted by soulospeeder
    I think she's a '98, came to me in 2001 with a full XTR950 groupo & 517 Mavic rims. The Manitou SX Ti never broke on me (I weigh 175-180 & ride moderately hard) but had plenty of flex.

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    Sweet bike man, its always nice to see someone who rides/upgrades a M2 stumpy.

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    Seat collar for '96 M2 Comp

    I'm slowly resurrecting my '95 M2 Comp as a single speed, rigid beer bike (okay, maybe groceries, too.)

    As I measured the seat tube, I thought a 35mm collar would work. I just tried to install the collar ( a 35mm Salsa liplock,) and it was too small.

    Does anyone know the proper size seat collar?

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjb93
    I'm slowly resurrecting my '95 M2 Comp as a single speed, rigid beer bike (okay, maybe groceries, too.)

    As I measured the seat tube, I thought a 35mm collar would work. I just tried to install the collar ( a 35mm Salsa liplock,) and it was too small.

    Does anyone know the proper size seat collar?

    Thx
    That should be correct (34.9, to be exact, or 35mm)... Its supposed to be pretty tight fitting, so you might just have to hold it open to get it onto the seat tube (I just wedge it open with a screwdriver to take it off/put it on).

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