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    New 2011 Specialized Phenom Expert Saddle!

    So, After getting back into riding after a few years off, I came to realize that my saddle wasn't cutting it. I went to my Specialized dealer and got my sit bones measured and to my surprise, the number was 148. I decided to try the brand new 2011 Specialized Phenom Expert 155mm, and couldn't be happier! The difference was night and day right off the bat. This is a competitive XC saddle (I don't know the weight, but it seems lighter than my old Sell Italia Flite Gel). It's extremely low profile, with a carbon fiber re-enforced body, and hollow Ti rails.

    I highly recommend this saddle, and with so many different sizes available, it can fit almost anyone! Available in 130, 143, and 155 sizes.

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    Can you or anyone else post some pics of the 2011 Phenom saddle? I can't seem to find any pics or info but my LBS said he could order one for me. I know that they changed it a little from the previous model but would like to know how much...

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    yeah, I will tonight. It is more low profile than the old phenoms and has a closed "back" to prevent snagging your baggy shorts.

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    I Smell 2011's...

    Scroll down towards the end of the page, I have a pic there.

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    Here are the pics.
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    Thanks Zendog!

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    Thanks for posting these. I just ordered a Henge Expert this morning after looking at the Phenom. It just looks too thin for 2+ hour rides over rocky terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogie1
    Here are the pics.
    Looks like your bike might be a bit small for you, if you have to run the saddle that far forward on the rails.

    My guess, is you will bend the rails of that saddle in no time with the way it is setup.

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    yeah, I didn't notice that. I was set up correctly, but I took a big fall and must have jacked the saddle... and my knee...

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    It wouldn't look weird on a standard setback seat post, and the rails might last longer too. OP might just have long femurs.
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    Guess I'll be stocking up now, it looks like the Henge. My favorite saddle is the current Phenom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Guess I'll be stocking up now, it looks like the Henge. My favorite saddle is the current Phenom.
    Spec seems to change things a lot even in the same model across years. I have an Alias saddle and it looks way different than the current one.

    Sometimes I get confused on what they call things. I mean you have the SL models which were or are the top model. Now where does "Expert" fall in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg
    Spec seems to change things a lot even in the same model across years. I have an Alias saddle and it looks way different than the current one.

    Sometimes I get confused on what they call things. I mean you have the SL models which were or are the top model. Now where does "Expert" fall in?
    At one point didn't comp mean competitive or something like that, instead of compromise?
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    How's the saddle feel? We need a ride report. It certainly doesn't look as cool as the previous phenom but that's not really important...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Guess I'll be stocking up now, it looks like the Henge. My favorite saddle is the current Phenom.
    Yup. I gotta get one quick for another bike.

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    That seat post dosnt have a lot of support for the rails, be careful, looks like you could bend them pretty easily.

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    Ride report.... Saddle feels great, but then again that may just be because I am coming off of an ass hatchet.

    No numbness, no pain, could be because of the design or the fact that it is the correct size for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogie1
    Ride report.... Saddle feels great, but then again that may just be because I am coming off of an ass hatchet.

    No numbness, no pain, could be because of the design or the fact that it is the correct size for me.

    Lol.. Thanks for the ride report. What kind of ass hatchet were you riding?

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    Selle Italia Flite Genuine Gel...

    Genuinely sucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogie1
    Selle Italia Flite Genuine Gel...

    Genuinely sucked
    Surprise? I have never sold a saddle as fast as I sold my Flite Genuine Gel...I only ride Phenom's now, road and mountain.

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    I picked up the Phenom expert 143 today. I didn't put it on the scale but it seems slightly heavier that the WTB Rocket ti it's replacing but it also feels alot better than the rocket imo. I'm not saying it's a better saddle than my Rocket, it just fits my ass bones better cause it's a little bit wider..

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    I saw one in a shop yesterday, so after putting some ketchup on my crow, has anyone tossed one on a scale yet?

    Are there going to be other models? I'm curious since this one has TI rails and was retailing for 100, while the previous TI-railed model was 150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Mc.
    I picked up the Phenom expert 143 today. I didn't put it on the scale but it seems slightly heavier that the WTB Rocket ti it's replacing but it also feels alot better than the rocket imo. I'm not saying it's a better saddle than my Rocket, it just fits my ass bones better cause it's a little bit wider..
    How's the colonic irrigation after riding through water?

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    I picked up a white Henge expert last week. Took it out for an hour ride this weekend and I think it's way better than a Phenom for trail use. It's not as hard on my sit bones, yet provides excellent support so you never sink into it.

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    [QUOTE=PVR]How's the colonic irrigation after riding through water?[/Q]


    Very nice...

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    Not to bring back an old thread, but I purchased the Phenom Expert with Ti rails today.
    Haven't had a chance to try it out on the bike yet, but I did weigh it. The 155mm weighs 247 grams.

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    that saddle is stupid.

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    I really really like my new Phenom but it has devoloped some play where the rails insert into to rear of the saddle which is causing it to creak loudly and is highly annoying. I wonder if the LBS will replace it because new saddles aren't supose to do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniyarm
    I picked up a white Henge expert last week. Took it out for an hour ride this weekend and I think it's way better than a Phenom for trail use. It's not as hard on my sit bones, yet provides excellent support so you never sink into it.
    I'm eyeballing the Henge SL for a while now. What is the difference between the Henge SL from last year, and your Henge Expert for 2011? I know the SL had Ti rails...so did they simply rename the same saddle or did they "improve" it? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Mc.
    I really really like my new Phenom but it has devoloped some play where the rails insert into to rear of the saddle which is causing it to creak loudly and is highly annoying. I wonder if the LBS will replace it because new saddles aren't supose to do this...
    Mine did that too and they just squirted some teflon lube in the rail ?"sockets"? and now it doesn't make a sound If you push for a new one they MIGHT swap one out but it might very well do the same thing...

    Anyone weigh the NEW Ti railed Phenom model? I'm curious if it's lighter than my old one. I'm thinking about a new saddle

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    Damnit I JUST bought the 2010 Phenom SL ......... I didn't know about the 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by FACTION95
    Damnit I JUST bought the 2010 Phenom SL ......... I didn't know about the 2011
    Yeah, I bought a 2010 Toupe not knowing that the 2011 Phenom has a 155mm width available now. But I guess it works out as the nose of the Toupe is more comfortable to me than my Phenom SL or Phenom Gel was.

    I just wish they'd at LEAST update the damn site with the new stuff WHEN it's available for shops to order so you can decide if you want it or not. But I suppose they are dragging this out so the shops can clear out inventory at full (or is it "fool?") price before the full commitment to the new stuff. Normally the new stuff doesn't really turn me off to old, but when a size I use gets added to a product I'm interested in, it gets kind of irritating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Mc.
    How's the saddle feel? We need a ride report. It certainly doesn't look as cool as the previous phenom but that's not really important...
    You're right about it not mattering but I like this new look much much better. It is a cleaner design. The old one's cover had all sorts of silly designs imprinted into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogie1
    Here are the pics.

    Next, buy yourself a set back seat post. you are right on the rails edge bend there. I'm surprised it didn't bend. Well, if your 150 lbs, then maybe it's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg
    Next, buy yourself a set back seat post. you are right on the rails edge bend there. I'm surprised it didn't bend. Well, if your 150 lbs, then maybe it's ok.
    Did you read his reply to this already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woogie1
    yeah, I didn't notice that. I was set up correctly, but I took a big fall and must have jacked the saddle... and my knee...
    I'm sure he's already fixed it so relax.

    Back on the topic of the saddle....I've got one I just put on my 'cross bike. Haven't ridden it yet but looking forward to giving it a ride!

    Cheers!

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    Picking one up today or tomorrow.

    Currently I ride a 130mm Sette Evo Ti ($25), but its way too narrow.

    Hoping the 155mm Phenom will feel like cushion so I can ditch the padded shorts.

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    Just installed the 2011 Phenom Expert last night. I rode with the regular Phenom (Cro-moly rails) for over 2 years. It was fine but you can sure feel it on your rear end after 3 hours or more. The old Phenoms were real baggy short snaggers.

    Just from riding around the driveway, the new Phenom Expert with the Ti rails already felt more comfortable. Wondering if it will feel even better after a couple months of riding.

    On the scale, the 143mm model weighs 243g.

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    Update please.. everyone still liking their Phenom expert?

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    Mine is MUCH more comfortable than my old CroMo rails model but I'm still confused as to why it weighs slightly more. The old CroMo and the new Expert come in around the same price point but I figured a "modern" remodel would cut weight, not add. That being said, I like it much better It's more comfortable and it doesn't snag my shorts like the old one. I recommend it...

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    The new Phenom Expert is definitely worth the purchase. After about a dozen rides, I'm convinced it's much better than the old Phenom. Did almost 3 hours last Saturday and there's no soreness nor numbness. Zero snagging of baggy shorts.

    I was surprised by the weight as well. It has to be from the added rounded back-end of the saddle, as opposed to the split back of the previous version. The titanium rails offset the added weight so it's about the same as before for me.

    This was a great purchase and I would recommend for sure.

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    How do you get your sit bones measured? Does this involve being bare assed at all?

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    I really like this seat, It's on my 08 FSR XC, and i have yet to ride anything as comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaEps
    How do you get your sit bones measured? Does this involve being bare assed at all?
    Nope! Stack a few pieces of cardboard on top of each other and sit on them for about a minute. Get up and measure how far apart the dents your sit bones left are(center to center) and there you go

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX
    Mine did that too and they just squirted some teflon lube in the rail ?"sockets"? and now it doesn't make a sound
    I did the same thing with my Phenom Gel that was driving me nuts, a little Tri-Flow in the sockets and not a peep now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaEps
    How do you get your sit bones measured? Does this involve being bare assed at all?
    ROFL. Your question made my day. Thanks for a good laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onegymrat
    I'm eyeballing the Henge SL for a while now. What is the difference between the Henge SL from last year, and your Henge Expert for 2011? I know the SL had Ti rails...so did they simply rename the same saddle or did they "improve" it? Thanks!
    Curios about this too.

    Other than the SL being 10 dollar more than the expert, according to the Specialized website the only differences are in the shell and the padding (but that's not entirely clear): "Medium density super-light EVA padding for longer rides - Stiff carbon-reinforced shell for longevity and all-day riding efficiency" for the expert, ""Medium" carbon-reinforced shell for all day racing and durability - "Medium" rated ultra-light padding for all day rides"

    what does it mean?

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    we are currently using these saddles as well and are really liking them.

    the new shape on the back of the saddle helps lots with getting back over the saddle after dropping through technical terrain!!!!!

    i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of the carbon railed version!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I have an Alias 155 on my road bike. It was just about the best thing I've ever put on it (after trying tons of expensive saddles). Seems like most of the Specialized accessories I use seem to fit me better or work better. I was very surprised by that!

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    I've tried all kinds of saddles from low to top models and nothing's more comfortable than Spez stuff. The Phenom Expert is currently the most comfy saddle I've ever owned though not the lightest, nothing that a few titanium bolts and parts couldn't recover from the lost weight.

    To those who are considering getting Spez saddles, make sure you get the 2011 models. The models prior to this year's will develop creaking noise and play right out of the box. Which is a bummer but teflon lubricant will help if not fix completely. The only one that couldn't stop creaking was the Henge SL so I returned it for the Phenom Expert.
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    I have the Phenom Gel and love it so far..even though I am a fat ass @ 290 6'2". It did develope some creaking and clicking when riding. But some lube on the bolts that fasten the post to the rails cleared that up!!

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