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    Ok guys I've been working and waiting for all the parts but is not complete yet so I can't wait any more so I bought some things in the LBS to build it quickly and enjoy the bike the weekend... I will post how is looking the bike right now and some weights!!! here is a pic and is ready to go to the shop to install the BB etc.
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    The Weight

    The bike is ready!!!this is the component list in the "Training mode"
    weight with training setup: (pictures setup see pics)

    20lbs 6 oz
    9.240 kg
    20.37 lbs

    Training mode components:

    FRAME S-WORKS stumpjumper ht 29 15.5" 2013 (1120g)
    FORK Rock Shox Sid 29 Brain Carbon crown/steerer tapered 80mm (1470g (weight with uncut steerer))
    HEADSET 1-1/8 and 1-1/2" threadless, Campy style FSA with carbón upper cap.
    STEM Ritchey C260 WCS 6-degree rise 70mm (93g)
    HANDLEBARS Specialized S-Works carbon cut to 640mm (150g)
    GRIPS ESI Racers Edge

    FRONT BRAKE XTR trail m980 with formula rotor 160mm (85g)
    REAR BRAKE XTR trail m980 with Ashima airotor 140mm (63g)
    FRONT DERAILLEUR XTR m980 34.9 clamp
    REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano XTR Shadow Plus, 10-speed, SGS long cage
    SHIFT LEVERS Shimano XTR 10-speed and 2 speed
    CASSETTE XTR 10-speed, 11-36 (274g)
    CHAIN XT 10 speed
    CRANKSET XTR m980 double chainring 26/38 170mm (653g)
    BOTTOM BRACKET ROTOR PF30 reducer for 24mm spindle cranksets (137g)

    PEDALS XTR race m980 (304g)
    WHEELSET STAN’S ZTR CREST 29. (1580g)
    FRONT TIRE S-Works Fast Trak 2.0 (530g)
    REAR TIRE S-Works Renegade 1.95 (490g)

    SADDLE Phenom expert ti rails 130mm (234g)
    SEATPOST S-works carbon 350mm
    SEAT BINDER Specialized 7050 hard anodized alloy, 32.6mm, single bolt
    SKEWERS Stan's carbon.. came with the race gold wheelset
    HEADSET TOP CAP Specialized wheel type cap and ti bolt

    For the racing style I will change some parts:
    RACING MODE SETUP:

    WHEELSET: Stan's ZTR RACE GOLD (1350g)
    FRONT TIRE: Schwalbe Racing Ralph 29x2.10 (500g)
    REAR TIRE: S-WORKS renegade 29x1.95 (490)
    FRONT ROTOR: Ashima ai2 160mm (67g)
    REAR ROTOR: Ashima airotor 140mm (63g)
    SKEWERS: carbon-ti replica ti made (37g pair)

    PEDALS: Eggbeaters 11 (182g)
    CASSETTE: SRAM XX 11-36 (213g)
    SEATPOST: TUNE Schwarzes Stuck carbon 27.2x350mm (115) this will be in both modes
    SADDLE: Specialized Phenom TEAM carbon rails (180g) this will be in both modes
    or can be a TUNE MARATHON carbon saddle (105g) not sure yet!!


    I weighed all the parts in my cheap but precise scale
    really happy with the bike, I think the bike will weight 19 pounds in the race mode

    Hope u like it ready for ur questions!!!
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    Question, how tall are you if your riding the 15.5 frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by md247 View Post
    Question, how tall are you if your riding the 15.5 frame?
    5ft 4.5in
    163cm

    The seatpost is inserted 100mm
    If I measure from the BB center to the saddle rails is 630mm

    I think I will be more confortable with a 60mm stem but is ok right now and Im looking for a light stem in 60mm the ritchey c260 is really light!!! 93g

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    Thanks for all your pics and infos. Nice bike, even in trainings setup. The only point i want to cpmplain about is the crankset - s-works bike without s-works cranks is a NoGo in my opinion. Of course, technically the xtr is 100% fine but, its only a matter of feeling or taste.

    Regarding the body height - i am 10 cm taller, 173 cm, and will also ride a S frame. Here i have the opportunity to adjust my position by selecting the right parts as i like. When riding a M frame i do not have an equal number of "degrees of freedom". Also Burry Stander, he has the same body height and inseam as me (173 and 80 cm!), changed from M to S because of this. By the way - at the moment it looks like my business trip will last until end of april. So i will built my bike from april 22nd on and post it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Worker View Post
    Thanks for all your pics and infos. Nice bike, even in trainings setup. The only point i want to cpmplain about is the crankset - s-works bike without s-works cranks is a NoGo in my opinion. Of course, technically the xtr is 100% fine but, its only a matter of feeling or taste.

    Regarding the body height - i am 10 cm taller, 173 cm, and will also ride a S frame. Here i have the opportunity to adjust my position by selecting the right parts as i like. When riding a M frame i do not have an equal number of "degrees of freedom". Also Burry Stander, he has the same body height and inseam as me (173 and 80 cm!), changed from M to S because of this. By the way - at the moment it looks like my business trip will last until end of april. So i will built my bike from april 22nd on and post it here.
    So sad about it RIP Burry Stander a real mtb rider...

    Merckx, Hinault, Burry and Christoph Sauser are inspiration for me!!!

    Yes some people prefer the s-works crankset!! I had this groupset mounted in my bulls 26er maybe 3 months it have 210miles

    I really like Shimano xtr is not tooo light as xx or xx1 but is precise and is really tough, so sad right now I can't find the 24 tooth ring.. really hard in real long uphills

    Yes Burry swap from M to S the hubs are closer together and have more control u will need a 400mm seatpost and a 110stem maybe!!!

    I will try the xx1 someday

    I will post the Race mode component list some day and the weights too... I can not decide yet if I want the tune marathon saddle is so light but some doubts about comfort and durability in epic rides when u have to carry on a fully loaded camelbak......

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    Oh, i have 2 saddles - a Phenom Pro with carbon rails in 143 mm width and a tune speedneedle alcantara, the narrow size, not marathon. Both are comfortable for me. I don`t think you will have problems even on longer rides. Just give it a try.

    Yes, it is very sad about Burry. I also liked him a lot. Seems to be he was very friendly, earthed guy, open-minded... lets see if Christoph Sauser takes part in Cape Epic this year or if he skips.

    I did a calculation of possible stem lengths depending on bar back sweep. The specialized flat bar has 8 ° back sweep. By choosing a mcfk carbon bar which is only sold with 6 ° back sweep you gain 1 cm more horizontal length. That means while choosing an equal stem the difference in top tube length is only 1 cm between S and M just because of a differently shaped flat bar. So i do not need a very long stem. I will try 90 mm and maybe i change to 100 but not more. With more than 100 mm i would get a similar top tube length as with an M frame and that i don`t want to achieve.

    Also i did some calculations regarding the seatpost length. With my given inseam and necessary length of saddle top to center of BB a 350 mm post CAN fit depending on minimum insertion. I will buy the post also from mcfk. And there i can specify exactly all necessary values like minimum insertion and maximum insertion. Just to be safe i will order maybe 370 mm but 350 mm should be enough.

    I had 3 problems with an M frame:
    - it was a bit too long with a 90 mm stem and with choosing a lighter bar from mcfk it would get even longer because of the lower back sweep. Here i probably could change to a shorter stem...i am not sure.
    - the main thing is the standover height. When coming off the saddle and standing over the top tube (as you have to do sometimes during riding) my inseam seems to be very low and only a few mm more than the standover height. So if the ground is not perfectly flat i will crush my balls and that is not healthy whether for me or the frame. Coming off the saddle i nearly sit on the top tube. That is the main thing why i chose the S frame.
    Riding a 26er the top tube was about 5 cm lower - here there was no problem at all.
    - too less pressure on the front wheel. It felt like i was riding a chopper. I had no problems with steep climbs but it simply did not feel right and the S frame has 1 cm horter headtube and 1 cm less suspension. So the bar gets around 2 cm lower.

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    Please show us a bigger pic of the transition between headtube und fork crown when you post next time, ok?

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    Thats an awesome build you did there!
    You must be very proud of your results.

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    wow that is a nice build, so light

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    Quote Originally Posted by andresco50 View Post
    the ritchey c260 is really light!!! 93g
    I have the 260 on my Stumpy HT as well and really like it. Our bikes are set up pretty similarly with the exception that your frame is carbon...

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    control SL's didn't come stock. replaced the alloy wheelset with the carbon.

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    Some suggestions for dropping more weight:
    1. Cannondale Hollowgram SISL 170 mm - about 170 grams lighter than your XTR
    2. S-Works Renegade or Ground Control 29x2.1 instead of Schwalbe - I've had good results with the S-Works GC
    3. Consider a Rigid Fork? Niner or Race Face

    The above alone will drop about 3 lbs, should be around 16, almost at UCI level on a ROAD BIKE - Crazy! have fun.

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    cannondale cranks on a specialized frame is weird. and rigid fork, you might as well ride a road bike.

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    If he wants to upgrade the crankset it makes sense to buy s-works carbon cranks. Besides this he can shed weight by
    - changing FD from XTR to XX
    - changing cassette from XT to XTR
    - changing cranks to s-works (also the bearings would get lighter - in my opinion using a 24mm spindle crank in such a bike which is originally made for BB30 cranks is wasting stiffness and weight!)
    - changing seatpost collar to carbon (Carbon-Ti, MCFK...)
    - changing cable housings to FASI
    - changing grips to foam
    - changing stem to syntace
    - changing expander from Spesh to Extralite
    - changing headset top cap to Tune or Carbon-Ti

    But i think he is aware of all these points and just doesn`t want to spend so much money. And that`s fine. It is a very nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dypeterc View Post
    cannondale cranks on a specialized frame is weird. and rigid fork, you might as well ride a road bike.
    Personally, I see nothing wrong with some Hollowgrams on a Specialized. It's tantamount to paying homage to the company that developed BB30, by sticking their cranks on a another's frame that is using a cheaper to manufacture, watered down version of it...PF30. Question is, will the spindle length be long enough?

    Depending on where he rides, a rigid fork might be just the ticket. Hey, I ride my cyclocross bike at Wissahickon. Very rocky. Different stokes for different strokes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dypeterc View Post
    cannondale cranks on a specialized frame is weird. and rigid fork, you might as well ride a road bike.
    Why are people hung up on this? I have a Niner seatpost on my Stumpjumper..someone responded to a post I had and said that they would go Syntace over the Niner post b/c its a Specialized. Seems weird that you can't put another manufacture's part on a bike? If that is the case, should a Specialized only have Specialized parts?
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    First problem in the bike

    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Why are people hung up on this? I have a Niner seatpost on my Stumpjumper..someone responded to a post I had and said that they would go Syntace over the Niner post b/c its a Specialized. Seems weird that you can't put another manufacture's part on a bike? If that is the case, should a Specialized only have Specialized parts?
    Yeaaah!!! I'm with you... guys I love xtr and all my stuff are XTR I love the stiffness of the crank Maybe in the future I will go with a s-works "XX" crankset or xx1 but right now I'm happy with the build.
    And remember that this is the training mode I will post the weight in race mode!!!

    First problem in the bike yesterday!

    The mechanic had not installed the ROTOR BB with some retainer or sealant like loctite 640 green or something!!!

    The BB started to slip inside the carbon shell!!!

    So I went to the shop yesterday and fix that with loctite 640!! is color green!! the red one is too hard!!! now is great is stiff inside!!

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    The rotor BB is now glued to the frame with that loctite green fluid and it worked perfect!! no slips!! I love the bike... in few days I will instal the Tune seatpost!!

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    sister's Fate expert!!!

    The bike was in the lbs, my sister tried the bike and she really loved it!!
    the comp model have some x7 components and was too heavy for her.. she is 5' maybe and 46kg she is really short but is strong in the bike. The owner of the LBS give us a great price now the shop is her new sponsor!! The s-works is too expensive so we pull the trigger with the expert.

    Have all x0 components with a sram carbon cranks the x0 brakes feels really good the standard weight was 22.22lb and here is the progress of the weight reduction

    22.22lb (10080kg) all stock (with inner tubes and a her crank bros. pedals)
    22.09lb tubeless
    21.93lb 600mm AL cheap handlebar (we will install a fsa carbon bar)
    21.86lb changed the brake rotor to an ashima 140mm
    21.69lb (9.840kg) carbon skewers

    Isn't a great progress but is simple things that u don't spend a lot of money, I have to buy a new seatpost and the carbon handlebar, she can't use thin saddles so the 330 grams saddle have to stay
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    XTR cassette problem

    New mod to the standard bike!!! Few weeks ago in climbs the bike started to make a weir sound when was in the 26 ring and the 36 cassette cog position!! like something is breaking so I took off the xtr cassette and installed my new XX cassette in the Crest wheel and now is perfect the bike is lighter and no sounds now!! I will start a thread about this issue with the xtr cassette I think that the rivets loosened!! so this started that horrible sound!!

    actual weight of the bike with the stan's Crest wheelset is 20.08lb
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    Nice bikes - yours and your sister`s. Please keep up posting info and pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Worker View Post
    The only point i want to cpmplain about is the crankset - s-works bike without s-works cranks is a NoGo in my opinion.
    I would tend to agree, but until they offer a 156q like xx then I will continue to use a sram crank

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    Hi All,
    I'm new here and I just ordered s-works frame.
    It will be my first Specialized.
    I have a question to you, experienced s-works builder
    I ordered frame kit and now I completing other parts.
    What size of wheel hubs should I order to use them with s-works frame?
    Is it 15mm / 100mm on the front?
    Is it 10mm / 135mm on the rear?
    I will be thankful for any information.
    I will post pictures when frame will arrive.

    Regards
    Bartek

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    My 2013 15.5 S-WORKS stumpjumper HT building thread

    Hi Bartek, both front and rear wheel are for "normal" quick releases. So 100/135 mm. Front is also called QR9.

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