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    Just installed a BETD linkage on my 06 FSR XC PRO pics

    I just got done installing a BETD linkage on my 06 FSR XC Pro and It is one of the best products I have seen. The machine work is unbelivable on there product.It totally change my bike. The travel is so much better. These bike should come stock like this. It works awsome with the longer Fox Float R shock. The stock Fox Triad will be a back up when I send the Fox Float R to Push industries.

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    can you change the travel for your bike with that or is for the stumpy also?
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    How does it react on the 130 setting?
    have you take it for an serious All mountain ride?

    have yout got an longer shock installed? you mean a larger eye to eye ?
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    what is your weight?
    what pressure were you using pre link and what pressure are you using post link?
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    I am using 170 for the air pressure whats nice is that the float R you can put more pressure in it than the Triad.It is alittle longer than the Triad. my weight is about 200. The 130 setting is real nice alot of travel but with the weather we are having now I will keep it at 100. Its nice that you can adjust it.

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    I understood that you changed also the rear shock with the link: can you please tell us the sizes of the original shock (triad 6.5 X 1.5, I suppose) and of the Float R?

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    The rear shock is off a Cannondale Rush 800. It is longer than a stock Triad that comes on the FSR XC Pro. I had the shocks length but can not find it. I would measure the two together but the Fox Triad is back at Fox for the stuck down issue.
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    Did you have any problem/issue during disassembling the original shock and assembling the new one?

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    I am not sure what you mean. But if you mean just replacing the shock and installing the Cannondale shock is very easy. All you do is let out all the air of the shock and take out the 2 bolts.

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    This is exaclty what I meant. Thank you for your answers, I think I'll buy a BETD link for my stumpy

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    What is the real advantage of the BETD link. Is it just the 100-130 travel or is there something else

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    Nice

    I think it looks very nice. Let us know how it feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoglike
    What is the real advantage of the BETD link. Is it just the 100-130 travel or is there something else
    You would be shocked how much a little more travel does to your bike. It gives it more pedal clearence also to clear roots and rocks. It also is alot stronger. If you do a search you will see some people cracked there stock linkage.

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    Hi, I just bought a BETD linkage. This afternoon I started to replace the linkage but, when I disassembled the original linkage from my '04 stumpjumper FSR I realized that the reducer in the eyelet of the shock has to be removed. This is (for me) the problem : without specific tools I tried to do it, but I wasn't able to extract it from the eyelet. Have you some suggestion for me (except going to a skilled mechanic )?

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    If you go the the fox site and view the service video it goes over it. I think you just need a bolt extractor.

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    Fork Length and Head Angle

    Hi Z71,

    I think I am right in saying your frame came with a 100mm fork. I have an 04 Stumpjumper FSR Pro and also want to get one of the BETD links. I have a rock shox Reba fork with 115mm travel. Can you tell me if you still have 100mm forks on the frame and if so how does this ride or affect the head angle when you use the 130mm setting on the back, do you feel you need to raise the front at all.
    Any advice welcome Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by submariner
    Hi Z71,

    I think I am right in saying your frame came with a 100mm fork. I have an 04 Stumpjumper FSR Pro and also want to get one of the BETD links. I have a rock shox Reba fork with 115mm travel. Can you tell me if you still have 100mm forks on the frame and if so how does this ride or affect the head angle when you use the 130mm setting on the back, do you feel you need to raise the front at all.
    Any advice welcome Cheers,
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    My front fork is a Rock Shox Recon 351 Air it has air adjustments from 80mm-100mm-130mm. I love the BETD linkage and will never go back to the way it is stock. I like the ride of mine compared to the 07 stumpjumper comp. I was going to trade mine in on one until I got the linkage. It totally changed the ride of my bike. The head angle is not bad on the 130mm setting in the back. But I am running a adjustable rise stem and higher rise bars. So I do not know if that had something to do with everything comming together. I wish some of you could ride my bike so you could compare it before you drop that much money in for the linkage. All I can say is that it improved my bike in the BB height which it really needed and the ride is much more stable. So If it improved my ride I am sure it would improve the ride of the Stumpjumper. I hope this helps.

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    Thanks for the info,
    I think I'll just get the link and risk it.
    Cheers,
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    Have you tried it at 130 setting? Can the bike handle more abuse in that setting? Like more and larger drops etc..?
    Let us know!!

    Thanks.

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    The BETD seems awesome??

    Is it true?
    Doesn't weigh more?
    Uses my same shock?

    I have an 05 Stumpy FSR pro (Stock was 100mm front travel). The bike now has an 05 Marathon SL fork. It has air adjustable travel to 120mm. Am I correct in thinking I could install the BETD set it at the 100mm position and my slack head tube angle would be eliminated? This seems like the greatest upgrade ever! Am I missing something?

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    [QUOTE=
    Doesn't weigh more?
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    Yes, Betd linkage weights about 160 grams more than the original one.
    I still didn't test it but, as I red in many other topics, I hope that the adavntages in riding will cancel this weight increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    My front fork is a Rock Shox Recon 351 Air it has air adjustments from 80mm-100mm-130mm. I love the BETD linkage and will never go back to the way it is stock. I like the ride of mine compared to the 07 stumpjumper comp. I was going to trade mine in on one until I got the linkage. It totally changed the ride of my bike. The head angle is not bad on the 130mm setting in the back. But I am running a adjustable rise stem and higher rise bars. So I do not know if that had something to do with everything comming together. I wish some of you could ride my bike so you could compare it before you drop that much money in for the linkage. All I can say is that it improved my bike in the BB height which it really needed and the ride is much more stable. So If it improved my ride I am sure it would improve the ride of the Stumpjumper. I hope this helps.
    Hey, I've also got a Recon 351 Air fork (non uturn) on my 06 FSR XC Pro. It came on the bike set to 100mm travel. How do you adjust it to 130mm?? I didn't see any way to do that. Am I missing something?? Is yours a uturn model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    Hey, I've also got a Recon 351 Air fork (non uturn) on my 06 FSR XC Pro. It came on the bike set to 100mm travel. How do you adjust it to 130mm?? I didn't see any way to do that. Am I missing something?? Is yours a uturn model?
    I am refering to what it says the air settings are on the bottom of the fork. On my Recon air fork it tells you the settings on the bottom of the fork. They have a web site with owners manuals that will tell you the setting if you do not have a manual.

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    I found the info on how to change the travel settings. It involves removing the spacer to get the 130mm travel. I may try this out and the BETD link and turn it into a 5" travel trail bike. It will fix the two problems I found with the FSR XC Pro by raising the BB and slackening the head angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    I found the info on how to change the travel settings. It involves removing the spacer to get the 130mm travel. I may try this out and the BETD link and turn it into a 5" travel trail bike. It will fix the two problems I found with the FSR XC Pro by raising the BB and slackening the head angle.
    I had this done when I installed my Rock shok pop-lock.

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    z71, what tools did you need to install BETD link on the FSR XC? Any additional details, spares, reducers? Thanks!

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    It is very easy to install. I think it was the easiest thing I put on my bike. All you need is the right size allen head to take off the link bolts. You do need to take out the bushing in the bottom shock. They give you a new bolt and bushings and they are much better than stock. You can do this with a vise and a small socket. I made a tool to do this so I would not have to use a vise and it was way to cold out to go up in the shed. If you need any help with the link and bushings let me know I will tell you how to make a easy tool to take out the bushing in the bottom shock if you do not have a vise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    It is very easy to install. I think it was the easiest thing I put on my bike. All you need is the right size allen head to take off the link bolts. You do need to take out the bushing in the bottom shock. They give you a new bolt and bushings and they are much better than stock. You can do this with a vise and a small socket. I made a tool to do this so I would not have to use a vise and it was way to cold out to go up in the shed. If you need any help with the link and bushings let me know I will tell you how to make a easy tool to take out the bushing in the bottom shock if you do not have a vise.
    Here is a pic of the tool.

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    Thanks z71!

    So, here is mine






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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    Thanks z71!

    So, here is mine





    Looks good Archer13. I think the Red is the best color they offer in the linkage. He is a pic with the Fox Float R I installed after my Fox Tiad got stuck down.

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    Why is it not at the 130mm setting?
    That would be te reason for me to buy it.

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    Installed it, with the new fork also

    Rear: 100, Front: 90


    Rear: 100, Front: 100


    Rear: 100, Front: 130


    Rear: 130, Front: 130

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    wich set-up do you prefer?
    and for what usage

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    Quote Originally Posted by jappo
    wich set-up do you prefer?
    and for what usage
    Dunno, I did 130mm on the rear just a hour ago

    Today I've tried rear 100mm with front 130mm. Like it. Tomorrow I'll try 130mm rear.

    Anyway, BETD is good for standard 100m settings, because BB is higher, than on Specialized link.

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    Ok let us know how it worked.. how are you gonna test it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jappo
    Ok let us know how it worked.. how are you gonna test it?
    I have a park (forest) near home, there is some small trails inside, I'm riding them often. So, if something changes, believe that I will feel it

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    sorry I ment do you do many drop's and technical tracks on your local trail.
    I would use the 130 setting for more agressive riding like All mountain.
    Are you riding pure xc or also some All mountain/ agressive XC

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    No drops, no jumps, but there is some stairs on the trail. Let's say, it's not agressive XC, but fun XC (PUSH Industry terminology )

    BETD-link can't make Enduro bolid from the "middle-class" XC bike, so I'm looking forward for comfy trail, faster descents and, probably, a little bit aggresively riding then before.

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    hehe enduro is probably a bit overkill indeed.. but im sure the frame can handle a bit more agressive riding ?

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    At last today I tested my BETD linkage on my stumpy fsr '04, using 130mm travel: WONDERFUL!!!

    This upgrade should be mandatory for every stumpjumper fsr originally with 100mm of rear travel: today I felt like I had a brand new all mountain bike, weighting and climbing like a cross country bike, and descending with a plushness I never felt before!

    My only issue was the taller bottom bracket, that makes more difficult to mount on the bike, but I think this is a sweet price to pay for the HUGE advantages...
    Well done BETD!

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    I got a good ride in the other day.My linkage is set in the 100mm setting but I am running a longer rear Fox Float R shock and all I can say is this is a wonderfull set-up on 100mm. It is really plush with no pedal bob at all. I will have to see how the 130mm setting is but I am really happy with the way the geometry is and the bb height in the 100mm setting. Its hard to believe the linkage would change the bike like this.

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    z71 - That Fox Float R shock you are running sure looks to be CONSIDERABLY longer than the OEM shock. It looks like the rear of the front triangle is jacked up making your head tube angle steeper. How does it ride?? Have you noticed it being a bit twitchy in the front end??

    Archer13 - Your pics are a great help. Your FSR XC looks right at home on the 130R/130F setting. It really looks like a 5" all mountian rig with a decent amount of BB clearance. Can you measure the BB height? I'm interested to see how much difference it makes with 130mm F&R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    z71 - That Fox Float R shock you are running sure looks to be CONSIDERABLY longer than the OEM shock. It looks like the rear of the front triangle is jacked up making your head tube angle steeper. How does it ride?? Have you noticed it being a bit twitchy in the front end??

    Archer13 - Your pics are a great help. Your FSR XC looks right at home on the 130R/130F setting. It really looks like a 5" all mountian rig with a decent amount of BB clearance. Can you measure the BB height? I'm interested to see how much difference it makes with 130mm F&R.
    It rides awsome not twitchy at all i have the sag set perfect. when you sit on it it does not look as steep as it does when you are not on it without my weight. It runs alot better than stock. I have more travel in the 100mm setting with the fox float than I did with the fox triad in the 130mm setting. The fox float rides much more plush and just is a all around better shock than my fox triad was. I plan on getting a new front fork with some more travel up front when the weather here breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    Installed it, with the new fork also

    Rear: 130, Front: 130
    Sweet build! I would ride it until dialed-in with this 130/130 set-up. The higher BB is needed when you take into account of the extra travel the frame is now providing.

    I wonder how the 130 fork and 130 frame impact the Head Angle? Anything at or less than 70 deg and you're golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    It rides awsome not twitchy at all i have the sag set perfect. when you sit on it it does not look as steep as it does when you are not on it without my weight. It runs alot better than stock. I have more travel in the 100mm setting with the fox float than I did with the fox triad in the 130mm setting. The fox float rides much more plush and just is a all around better shock than my fox triad was. I plan on getting a new front fork with some more travel up front when the weather here breaks.
    Dude, it's great to hear how well it's working for you. The Float is a superior shock to the Triad and I'm sure it'll be even better pushed!

    By the way, I changed the travel on my Recon 351 Solo Air fork from 100mm to 130mm today. It's super easy to do and only took me 45 minutes. There's no need to go buy a longer travel fork. Just take out the spacer and your good to go at 130mm.

    Now all I have to do is order the linkage from BETD and the FSR XC Pro will be rockin' at 130mm F&R! That'll give me a 5" travel XC bike (FSR), a 5.75" travel trail bike (Yeti 575) and a 6" travel all mountain rig (Enduro Expert).
    Although, my wife gets to ride the FSR XC Pro so now she's stoked.

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    Z71 nice to hear about the improvements. I own a 2k6 stumpy and want to put a betd link on my bike. Why don't you have the 130mm and 150mm link isn't your bike an 06. Anyways I can't get betd to respond to my emails and was wondering how long it took them to reply to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgreen
    Z71 nice to hear about the improvements. I own a 2k6 stumpy and want to put a betd link on my bike. Why don't you have the 130mm and 150mm link isn't your bike an 06. Anyways I can't get betd to respond to my emails and was wondering how long it took them to reply to you?
    I own a 06 FSR XC Pro and the linkage for my bike is 100mm to 130mm they go by the year of your bike and model. I got e-mails pretty fast from them. A guy named Dan helped me out. He would reply in a day or two. Remember they are a different time zone they are in the U.K.

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    I got a chance to move my fork to the 130mm setting. Big improvement. Lots of travel and a real nice ride.

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    this is the 100mm setting for the fork.

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    There ya go! Your FSR XC Pro should now be called a FSR AM Pro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    There ya go! Your FSR XC Pro should now be called a FSR AM Pro!
    Heh

    Preparing my new photos, 140mm front (TALAS '07), 130mm rear (PUSHed RP23 + BETD) on FSR XC '06 - "FSR XC on steroids"

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    I've promised to share experience on 130mm rear with BETD. Sorry for delay. Here it is.

    + more comfortable riding

    + higher BB, more clearance, it's possible to continue pedaling in turns, that make my pedals touch the ground on 100mm

    + BETD link looks cool!

    +/- ProPedal effect is stronger

    - BETD link is twice heavier than standard

    - front derailer restriction: as angle of the rear has changed (dropouts go lower), but seat tube keep the same angle - chain may touch (lay on) front derailer. For example, if bike is without weight, 1-1 is ok, 1-2 chain sometime rub on FD, 1-3 - stable rubbing. With the rider on bike it's not so critical, but it's good to remember that. Let's say "it's not a bug, it's a feature"

    - higher pressure in rear shock is necessary. I had ~150psi for 100mm, and now should use 180-185psi on 130mm (Fox RP23 '07, 165/38mm)

    May be I will remember something else later

    Here it my "Steroid FSR XC", Marzocchi XC 700 SL has been changed to TALAS '07.

    140 front / 130 rear




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    How is the talas at 140mm? I remember specialized advises only forks with 130mm travel max?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jappo
    How is the talas at 140mm? I remember specialized advises only forks with 130mm travel max?
    TALAS is a nice fork

    Travel restriction is about head angle. In case of standard 100mm rear the restriction for front is a 130mm (by documentation). But if I have 130mm rear, and 140mm front, it's the same angle as 100 rear/110 front. I think it's ok.

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    ok that makes sence

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    Great looking bike Archer 13, nice build up. I should spring for shwalbes, some folks swear by them. About the front der., since it's a clamp mount couldn't it be slid down a little to compensate for the lowered dropouts? Just a theory I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    TALAS is a nice fork

    Travel restriction is about head angle. In case of standard 100mm rear the restriction for front is a 130mm (by documentation). But if I have 130mm rear, and 140mm front, it's the same angle as 100 rear/110 front. I think it's ok.
    I agree that the travel restriction is about head angle, but you forget that head angle is dynamic.

    by adding travel front and rear you only keep the same head angle when the bike is level, not when the suspensions are being compressed at different rates.

    say you; land rear suspension first. your rear suspension is compressed and your front fork is at full extension. higher head angle and more leverage.

    say you run into a big rock that you meant to lift over but stuffed up. you now have and extra 40mm of leverage acting on the frames steering tube.

    there are lots of dynamic situations where the extra 40mm of travel is an extra 40mm even if you add the same to the rear. you haven't made the frame stronger, so the bike is still only engineered for what it was originally intended XC. if you venture into more aggressive riding you have made the bike more likely to break by extending the travel.

    having said this I have added up to 30mm more travel to my fork without adding it to the rear. As long as people attempting this realise the extra travel doesn't suddenly make their bike a free-ride rig then it will probably never adversely affect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by landslide
    I agree that the travel restriction is about head angle, but you forget that head angle is dynamic.
    ...
    there are lots of dynamic situations where the extra 40mm of travel is an extra 40mm even if you add the same to the rear. you haven't made the frame stronger, so the bike is still only engineered for what it was originally intended XC. if you venture into more aggressive riding you have made the bike more likely to break by extending the travel.
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    As long as people attempting this realise the extra travel doesn't suddenly make their bike a free-ride rig then it will probably never adversely affect them.
    You are right, but I'm not riding freeride at all. No jumps, no drops. It's still XC, sometime agressive XC (or Fun XC, in PUSH terminology ). It's all about comfort. In the same conditions I feeling more comfortable, than on 100mm. Higher BB is also good thing in the forest.

    Also, I can change travel back in 5 minutes, if I plan long riding over easy road.

    Another reason of this fork is - right now I'm ready to change a frame to, for example, Stumpjumper FSR, without any additional investment (excluding frameset, of course).

    By the way, what about different forks, with different height with same travel? I think it's no problem to find 130mm fork on the market with the same height as 140mm TALAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    You are right, but I'm not riding freeride at all. No jumps, no drops. It's still XC, sometime agressive XC (or Fun XC, in PUSH terminology ). It's all about comfort. In the same conditions I feeling more comfortable, than on 100mm. Higher BB is also good thing in the forest.
    By the way, what about different forks, with different height with same travel? I think it's no problem to find 130mm fork on the market with the same height as 140mm TALAS
    maybe there are forks the same length at 130 travel as another at 140mm (10mm). I doubt you would find much more variation.

    the frames are possible over spec'ed as it is and it sounds like your not expecting to much from your bike. just pointing out to others the reality that it does put more stress on the frame regardless of increasing the travel evenly front and rear.

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    landslide, it's like "bike not expecting too much from me"
    I'm not so experienced rider, still learning...

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    When you push the XC hard it does not handle well with the way it is set-up with that much travel the head angle is just to steep.Its just not made to handle jumps. so I guess it comes down to the way you like to ride. I should have my 07 StumpJumper Expert soon.

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    OK I need some answers. I really want to buy the BETD link for my 2005 S works Stump Jumper. The added strength and additional travel sounds perfect, not to mention that it looks so !!*&%$% cool. Here are my questions:

    1. If I have a Septune shock, will it work on both settings 120mm as well as the 150mm?
    2. Any special tools for installation, or can I do this myself?
    3. Any warranty issues
    4. Why wouldn't you want to install this sweet looking link?

    I don't think I will be able to sleep tonight, since I want to get one so bad. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Best

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    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Claim warranty with the original link
    4. a. you don't like the increased bottom (and saddle) height, b. it steapens the head-angle and you don't have a matching 140/150mm fork.

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    Thanks for the info. When you state yes on No. 2 do you mean I can do it myself or that I need special tools? Also a few other questions.

    How much do you have to increase your shock psi with the BETD link if you use the longer travel? I weigh 200 lbs and ride my septune at 215-220 psi. If I get the BETD link can this shock handle the required increase in psi for my weight. Do you know what the typical percentage increase in shock pressure will need to be. I love the idea of having 150 mm of travel, but want to make sure that my shock can handle the increase of psi required.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMUELLER
    How much do you have to increase your shock psi with the BETD link if you use the longer travel? I weigh 200 lbs and ride my septune at 215-220 psi. If I get the BETD link can this shock handle the required increase in psi for my weight. Do you know what the typical percentage increase in shock pressure will need to be. I love the idea of having 150 mm of travel, but want to make sure that my shock can handle the increase of psi required.
    It was about 25% increase for my RP23 165x38mm. Used 150 psi for 100mm settings, and increase to 180-185psi for 130mm settings.

    I don't remember maximum limit PSI for Septune, for RP23 it's about 300psi. Anyway, for 150mm settings you may use 30% sag settings, it can help you to prevent overpressure of shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgreen
    Z71 nice to hear about the improvements. I own a 2k6 stumpy and want to put a betd link on my bike. Why don't you have the 130mm and 150mm link isn't your bike an 06. Anyways I can't get betd to respond to my emails and was wondering how long it took them to reply to you?
    JGreen, I also own a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR. Did you ever go with the BETD link ?
    I would like to get it if it fits the 06 model.

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    Awesome!!!

    Great setup archer, im plannin to do the same with my 08 FSR, question though, is the frame on the 06, 07, and 08 model different?...from the pics I know there not. I just spoke to Dan and he hasnt tried an 08 model yet with the BETD link, but hopefully he gets back to me asap. I have a rock shox tora 302 on my bike but I would like to know how I can change it to a 130mm travel.

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    In 2007 Specialized started to use non-standard sizes of rear shock. 06 and older had standard sizes - 6.5x1.5 (165x38mm).

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    So I can put a 7.5"x2.0" rear shock like a Fox RP3 or RP23?. Thanx for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmarkian
    So I can put a 7.5"x2.0" rear shock like a Fox RP3 or RP23?. Thanx for the help.
    If you need a shock with a slightly shorter stroke, I have an almost new 2007 Fox RP23 that came on a CD Rush. It is 7.5"x 1.75". I noticed the guy who started this thread is using one.

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    Did I miss something? You have an '06 FSR XC (not stumpy FSR, right?), but on BETD's website, they only have new linkages for up to the '05 FSR XC. Is that the one you guys bought?

    My wife has an '07 FSR XC Comp, and I have an '05 Enduro Comp. I wonder if any of those linkages will fit on our bikes.

    Any body know?
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    Question RE BETD install.

    I'm installing a BETD link on my 100mm Stumpy.

    When you installed the link, did you use spacers on both sides of the linkage bearings or on the frame side only?

    Meaning was it like this:

    frame // spacer // bearing // spacer // bolt

    or like this:

    frame // spacer // bearing // bolt

    Thanks in advance.
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    frame (or seatstay) // spacer // bearing // bolt

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    Thanks to the excellent advice and posting of Archer, I also took the plunge and installed a BETD link to my 04 Stumpjumper. Here are my observations after a long summer of riding

    The increased bottom bracket clearance alone makes this a worthy upgrade! As the other poster stated, the raised bottom bracket makes pedaling through turns possible! The inherit handling compromises of the standard height bottom bracket is eliminated. The increased bottom bracket height also eradicates pedal strikes during technical and rocky terrain navigation.

    The 130MM travel makes the bike handle and feel very similar to a 2004 era Enduro. I matched the increased rear travel with a 130 MM Magura Laurin AM fork. I have used the BETD link with the stock Triad shock, but I used a Pushed RP23, size 6.5 x 1.5 most of the time. I am now running the rear at the 100MM travel setting. The bike climbs much better in this setting. The rear suspension is still plush for descending, depending if the ProPedal is engaged. I expected the front to be much higher in the back with the front at 130mm and the rear at 100. However, the increased bottom bracket height actually makes the bike feel level! The bike feels like a 5 inch travel bike.

    I do experience the aforementioned front derailleur rub in lower gears. The front shifting was problematic for a while, until I swapped the positions of the outboard bottom bracket spacers to one on the driver side and two on the non drive side. No problems since!

    This is a great upgrade if you want a different bike without buying a new frame.

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    Hey men and women,

    There is a BETD linkage on a 2004 Specialized Enduro Pro and I LOVE it! It is super smooth at slow and high speeds. Check out the post for the 2004 Specialized Enduro Full Custom for all of you BETD addicts.

    Ciao

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    Pics are now lost

    Of course now is thetime I am looking at improving my 06 FSR XC Pro.
    I checked the BETD site does anyone know of a US based company doing these upgrades.

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    Wow this looks great! I wish they made one for a 2008 FSRxc Comp. Thats my old bike.

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    Hello!

    I've been folowing this topic for a while, and I'm really enjoying the idea of a upgrade in my rear travel from 120mm to 150mm.
    I own a FSR Stumpjumper expert of 2006. I've changed my front suspencion for 140mm.
    Does anyone with a similar bike can give his opinion.
    Is it a nice change?

    Thanks

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    Our 2004 Stumpjumper Pro shock linked cracked in half today. We are relieved to find this thread with a BETD solution. Everyone still happy with their custom link?
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