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    Just installed a BETD linkage on my 06 FSR XC PRO pics

    I just got done installing a BETD linkage on my 06 FSR XC Pro and It is one of the best products I have seen. The machine work is unbelivable on there product.It totally change my bike. The travel is so much better. These bike should come stock like this. It works awsome with the longer Fox Float R shock. The stock Fox Triad will be a back up when I send the Fox Float R to Push industries.

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    can you change the travel for your bike with that or is for the stumpy also?
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    How does it react on the 130 setting?
    have you take it for an serious All mountain ride?

    have yout got an longer shock installed? you mean a larger eye to eye ?
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    what is your weight?
    what pressure were you using pre link and what pressure are you using post link?
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    I am using 170 for the air pressure whats nice is that the float R you can put more pressure in it than the Triad.It is alittle longer than the Triad. my weight is about 200. The 130 setting is real nice alot of travel but with the weather we are having now I will keep it at 100. Its nice that you can adjust it.

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    I understood that you changed also the rear shock with the link: can you please tell us the sizes of the original shock (triad 6.5 X 1.5, I suppose) and of the Float R?

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    The rear shock is off a Cannondale Rush 800. It is longer than a stock Triad that comes on the FSR XC Pro. I had the shocks length but can not find it. I would measure the two together but the Fox Triad is back at Fox for the stuck down issue.
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    Did you have any problem/issue during disassembling the original shock and assembling the new one?

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    I am not sure what you mean. But if you mean just replacing the shock and installing the Cannondale shock is very easy. All you do is let out all the air of the shock and take out the 2 bolts.

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    This is exaclty what I meant. Thank you for your answers, I think I'll buy a BETD link for my stumpy

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    What is the real advantage of the BETD link. Is it just the 100-130 travel or is there something else

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    Nice

    I think it looks very nice. Let us know how it feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoglike
    What is the real advantage of the BETD link. Is it just the 100-130 travel or is there something else
    You would be shocked how much a little more travel does to your bike. It gives it more pedal clearence also to clear roots and rocks. It also is alot stronger. If you do a search you will see some people cracked there stock linkage.

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    Hi, I just bought a BETD linkage. This afternoon I started to replace the linkage but, when I disassembled the original linkage from my '04 stumpjumper FSR I realized that the reducer in the eyelet of the shock has to be removed. This is (for me) the problem : without specific tools I tried to do it, but I wasn't able to extract it from the eyelet. Have you some suggestion for me (except going to a skilled mechanic )?

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    If you go the the fox site and view the service video it goes over it. I think you just need a bolt extractor.

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    Fork Length and Head Angle

    Hi Z71,

    I think I am right in saying your frame came with a 100mm fork. I have an 04 Stumpjumper FSR Pro and also want to get one of the BETD links. I have a rock shox Reba fork with 115mm travel. Can you tell me if you still have 100mm forks on the frame and if so how does this ride or affect the head angle when you use the 130mm setting on the back, do you feel you need to raise the front at all.
    Any advice welcome Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by submariner
    Hi Z71,

    I think I am right in saying your frame came with a 100mm fork. I have an 04 Stumpjumper FSR Pro and also want to get one of the BETD links. I have a rock shox Reba fork with 115mm travel. Can you tell me if you still have 100mm forks on the frame and if so how does this ride or affect the head angle when you use the 130mm setting on the back, do you feel you need to raise the front at all.
    Any advice welcome Cheers,
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    My front fork is a Rock Shox Recon 351 Air it has air adjustments from 80mm-100mm-130mm. I love the BETD linkage and will never go back to the way it is stock. I like the ride of mine compared to the 07 stumpjumper comp. I was going to trade mine in on one until I got the linkage. It totally changed the ride of my bike. The head angle is not bad on the 130mm setting in the back. But I am running a adjustable rise stem and higher rise bars. So I do not know if that had something to do with everything comming together. I wish some of you could ride my bike so you could compare it before you drop that much money in for the linkage. All I can say is that it improved my bike in the BB height which it really needed and the ride is much more stable. So If it improved my ride I am sure it would improve the ride of the Stumpjumper. I hope this helps.

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    Thanks for the info,
    I think I'll just get the link and risk it.
    Cheers,
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    Have you tried it at 130 setting? Can the bike handle more abuse in that setting? Like more and larger drops etc..?
    Let us know!!

    Thanks.

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    The BETD seems awesome??

    Is it true?
    Doesn't weigh more?
    Uses my same shock?

    I have an 05 Stumpy FSR pro (Stock was 100mm front travel). The bike now has an 05 Marathon SL fork. It has air adjustable travel to 120mm. Am I correct in thinking I could install the BETD set it at the 100mm position and my slack head tube angle would be eliminated? This seems like the greatest upgrade ever! Am I missing something?

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    [QUOTE=
    Doesn't weigh more?
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    Yes, Betd linkage weights about 160 grams more than the original one.
    I still didn't test it but, as I red in many other topics, I hope that the adavntages in riding will cancel this weight increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    My front fork is a Rock Shox Recon 351 Air it has air adjustments from 80mm-100mm-130mm. I love the BETD linkage and will never go back to the way it is stock. I like the ride of mine compared to the 07 stumpjumper comp. I was going to trade mine in on one until I got the linkage. It totally changed the ride of my bike. The head angle is not bad on the 130mm setting in the back. But I am running a adjustable rise stem and higher rise bars. So I do not know if that had something to do with everything comming together. I wish some of you could ride my bike so you could compare it before you drop that much money in for the linkage. All I can say is that it improved my bike in the BB height which it really needed and the ride is much more stable. So If it improved my ride I am sure it would improve the ride of the Stumpjumper. I hope this helps.
    Hey, I've also got a Recon 351 Air fork (non uturn) on my 06 FSR XC Pro. It came on the bike set to 100mm travel. How do you adjust it to 130mm?? I didn't see any way to do that. Am I missing something?? Is yours a uturn model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    Hey, I've also got a Recon 351 Air fork (non uturn) on my 06 FSR XC Pro. It came on the bike set to 100mm travel. How do you adjust it to 130mm?? I didn't see any way to do that. Am I missing something?? Is yours a uturn model?
    I am refering to what it says the air settings are on the bottom of the fork. On my Recon air fork it tells you the settings on the bottom of the fork. They have a web site with owners manuals that will tell you the setting if you do not have a manual.

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    I found the info on how to change the travel settings. It involves removing the spacer to get the 130mm travel. I may try this out and the BETD link and turn it into a 5" travel trail bike. It will fix the two problems I found with the FSR XC Pro by raising the BB and slackening the head angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    I found the info on how to change the travel settings. It involves removing the spacer to get the 130mm travel. I may try this out and the BETD link and turn it into a 5" travel trail bike. It will fix the two problems I found with the FSR XC Pro by raising the BB and slackening the head angle.
    I had this done when I installed my Rock shok pop-lock.

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    z71, what tools did you need to install BETD link on the FSR XC? Any additional details, spares, reducers? Thanks!

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    It is very easy to install. I think it was the easiest thing I put on my bike. All you need is the right size allen head to take off the link bolts. You do need to take out the bushing in the bottom shock. They give you a new bolt and bushings and they are much better than stock. You can do this with a vise and a small socket. I made a tool to do this so I would not have to use a vise and it was way to cold out to go up in the shed. If you need any help with the link and bushings let me know I will tell you how to make a easy tool to take out the bushing in the bottom shock if you do not have a vise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    It is very easy to install. I think it was the easiest thing I put on my bike. All you need is the right size allen head to take off the link bolts. You do need to take out the bushing in the bottom shock. They give you a new bolt and bushings and they are much better than stock. You can do this with a vise and a small socket. I made a tool to do this so I would not have to use a vise and it was way to cold out to go up in the shed. If you need any help with the link and bushings let me know I will tell you how to make a easy tool to take out the bushing in the bottom shock if you do not have a vise.
    Here is a pic of the tool.

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    Thanks z71!

    So, here is mine






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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    Thanks z71!

    So, here is mine





    Looks good Archer13. I think the Red is the best color they offer in the linkage. He is a pic with the Fox Float R I installed after my Fox Tiad got stuck down.

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    Why is it not at the 130mm setting?
    That would be te reason for me to buy it.

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    Installed it, with the new fork also

    Rear: 100, Front: 90


    Rear: 100, Front: 100


    Rear: 100, Front: 130


    Rear: 130, Front: 130

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    wich set-up do you prefer?
    and for what usage

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    Quote Originally Posted by jappo
    wich set-up do you prefer?
    and for what usage
    Dunno, I did 130mm on the rear just a hour ago

    Today I've tried rear 100mm with front 130mm. Like it. Tomorrow I'll try 130mm rear.

    Anyway, BETD is good for standard 100m settings, because BB is higher, than on Specialized link.

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    Ok let us know how it worked.. how are you gonna test it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jappo
    Ok let us know how it worked.. how are you gonna test it?
    I have a park (forest) near home, there is some small trails inside, I'm riding them often. So, if something changes, believe that I will feel it

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    sorry I ment do you do many drop's and technical tracks on your local trail.
    I would use the 130 setting for more agressive riding like All mountain.
    Are you riding pure xc or also some All mountain/ agressive XC

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    No drops, no jumps, but there is some stairs on the trail. Let's say, it's not agressive XC, but fun XC (PUSH Industry terminology )

    BETD-link can't make Enduro bolid from the "middle-class" XC bike, so I'm looking forward for comfy trail, faster descents and, probably, a little bit aggresively riding then before.

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    hehe enduro is probably a bit overkill indeed.. but im sure the frame can handle a bit more agressive riding ?

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    At last today I tested my BETD linkage on my stumpy fsr '04, using 130mm travel: WONDERFUL!!!

    This upgrade should be mandatory for every stumpjumper fsr originally with 100mm of rear travel: today I felt like I had a brand new all mountain bike, weighting and climbing like a cross country bike, and descending with a plushness I never felt before!

    My only issue was the taller bottom bracket, that makes more difficult to mount on the bike, but I think this is a sweet price to pay for the HUGE advantages...
    Well done BETD!

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    I got a good ride in the other day.My linkage is set in the 100mm setting but I am running a longer rear Fox Float R shock and all I can say is this is a wonderfull set-up on 100mm. It is really plush with no pedal bob at all. I will have to see how the 130mm setting is but I am really happy with the way the geometry is and the bb height in the 100mm setting. Its hard to believe the linkage would change the bike like this.

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    z71 - That Fox Float R shock you are running sure looks to be CONSIDERABLY longer than the OEM shock. It looks like the rear of the front triangle is jacked up making your head tube angle steeper. How does it ride?? Have you noticed it being a bit twitchy in the front end??

    Archer13 - Your pics are a great help. Your FSR XC looks right at home on the 130R/130F setting. It really looks like a 5" all mountian rig with a decent amount of BB clearance. Can you measure the BB height? I'm interested to see how much difference it makes with 130mm F&R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyp111
    z71 - That Fox Float R shock you are running sure looks to be CONSIDERABLY longer than the OEM shock. It looks like the rear of the front triangle is jacked up making your head tube angle steeper. How does it ride?? Have you noticed it being a bit twitchy in the front end??

    Archer13 - Your pics are a great help. Your FSR XC looks right at home on the 130R/130F setting. It really looks like a 5" all mountian rig with a decent amount of BB clearance. Can you measure the BB height? I'm interested to see how much difference it makes with 130mm F&R.
    It rides awsome not twitchy at all i have the sag set perfect. when you sit on it it does not look as steep as it does when you are not on it without my weight. It runs alot better than stock. I have more travel in the 100mm setting with the fox float than I did with the fox triad in the 130mm setting. The fox float rides much more plush and just is a all around better shock than my fox triad was. I plan on getting a new front fork with some more travel up front when the weather here breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer13
    Installed it, with the new fork also

    Rear: 130, Front: 130
    Sweet build! I would ride it until dialed-in with this 130/130 set-up. The higher BB is needed when you take into account of the extra travel the frame is now providing.

    I wonder how the 130 fork and 130 frame impact the Head Angle? Anything at or less than 70 deg and you're golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z71
    It rides awsome not twitchy at all i have the sag set perfect. when you sit on it it does not look as steep as it does when you are not on it without my weight. It runs alot better than stock. I have more travel in the 100mm setting with the fox float than I did with the fox triad in the 130mm setting. The fox float rides much more plush and just is a all around better shock than my fox triad was. I plan on getting a new front fork with some more travel up front when the weather here breaks.
    Dude, it's great to hear how well it's working for you. The Float is a superior shock to the Triad and I'm sure it'll be even better pushed!

    By the way, I changed the travel on my Recon 351 Solo Air fork from 100mm to 130mm today. It's super easy to do and only took me 45 minutes. There's no need to go buy a longer travel fork. Just take out the spacer and your good to go at 130mm.

    Now all I have to do is order the linkage from BETD and the FSR XC Pro will be rockin' at 130mm F&R! That'll give me a 5" travel XC bike (FSR), a 5.75" travel trail bike (Yeti 575) and a 6" travel all mountain rig (Enduro Expert).
    Although, my wife gets to ride the FSR XC Pro so now she's stoked.

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    Z71 nice to hear about the improvements. I own a 2k6 stumpy and want to put a betd link on my bike. Why don't you have the 130mm and 150mm link isn't your bike an 06. Anyways I can't get betd to respond to my emails and was wondering how long it took them to reply to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgreen
    Z71 nice to hear about the improvements. I own a 2k6 stumpy and want to put a betd link on my bike. Why don't you have the 130mm and 150mm link isn't your bike an 06. Anyways I can't get betd to respond to my emails and was wondering how long it took them to reply to you?
    I own a 06 FSR XC Pro and the linkage for my bike is 100mm to 130mm they go by the year of your bike and model. I got e-mails pretty fast from them. A guy named Dan helped me out. He would reply in a day or two. Remember they are a different time zone they are in the U.K.

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