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    hey Clockwork my SX is on the way

    i put the order in tuesday, 2008 SX II the orange and black one, ive never even sat on one in my life so i hope i like it

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    Posted in another thread but didn't realise it was a different forum:

    @d_f - I see you went for the SXTII. It's a bit beyond my budget at the moment, so was thinking of getting the SXT I and upgrading bits over time. I read your concerns about the fork, but as the Fox 36 Van RC2 is only £400 new, I could always sell the Marzocchi and upgrade for around £200 at a later date (although the 36 Talas would be my ideal choice). The brakes would need upgrading too, but that's not too expensive. Is the SXT II really worth the extra £700? Is the paint job any different other than colour on the II? You mentioned in a previous post that the SXT I looked like your Epic and would chip easily. Thanks

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    i sent a long reply to that over there, i was still thinking long and hard about putting in the order and paying the extra cash for the SX but what the hell, i just hope when i get my ass on it i will like it

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    Enjoy! Let us know how she rides...

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    i will, ill see if i can get some pics up too, not enough pics of the orange and black paint job

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    you'll gonna love it. Also Darkest... I learned that you can upgrade the fork if you have the RV to 180mm not just keep it at 160mm. Let me know how the bike performs. I've been looking at a drop that I wanna do but its like 10-15ft, depending on where you land. Probaly going to hit it next week.
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    Yeah I gave both the Spelsh rep and Marzochhi hell because I had called them many times trying to do the same to my 66 RV. Oh well doesn't matter now as I sold it for 250 and have 3 forks that stomp the crap out of the 66rv performance wise.

    Darkest- You will love it and yes the extra cash is well worth it . Now you get a way better fork , Way better custom codes, Better rims, Thomson and Holzfeller stuff instead of hussefelt. Many many upgrades that make it way worth it . If I would have had all the cash to drop at once I would have gone the complete II route. As you can only imagine what I have into my sx.
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    ive been to the reviews section of this forum and theres been a lot of negativity about the fox vanilla thats on the bike, a lot of bottoming out complaints, i should be ok im a light rider and ill be starting small anyway, i have a feeling though im going to progress fast with this bike

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    I'm confusing myself even more now - I can get the '07 SX Trail I for the same discounted price as the '08. Usually newer is better, but the '07 has the Marzocchi 66RV instead of the Marzocchi 55TST2 and the frame is black (not too keen on that olive colour). Downside are the X.7 rd, chain and pedals which I can live with. Is the 66 RV a better fork?

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    Gotta love the internet.. I think I've answered my own question. For an extra $600 I can get the '07 SX Trail II with the Fox 36 Van R and Fox DHX 5.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkest_fugue
    ive been to the reviews section of this forum and theres been a lot of negativity about the fox vanilla thats on the bike, a lot of bottoming out complaints, i should be ok im a light rider and ill be starting small anyway, i have a feeling though im going to progress fast with this bike

    Thats because those reviews are from the older SXtrails with older vanilla's . 2008 fox forks are dialed and perform way better than the pprevious years forks .


    ALSO most of those complaining of bottoming out are all big guys 170lbs +. This year they improved the bottom out because of those types of complaints.

    Besides the non lazy person can have the pressure increased in the internal bottom out resistance fixing that issue. But that costs some cash as its not really user serviceable in that aspect.
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    arctic you are confusing the hell out of me man, as for the forks, i havent really heard anyone complaining too much about the RV, and the 55 tst2 has some positive words coming in for it, just type in the search engine and youll see

    Clockwork thanks for the fork update, im just counting the days till the bike arrives now, i cant wait to start hitting the dirt with it

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    Confusion over.. I have a 2008 SX Trail at home right now. Went to the nearest Spesh dealer with the intention of ordering one in and by sheer luck they had one my size in stock. I'd never seen one in the flesh before. Bit of juggling with the kids and car-seats and managed to squeeze it in and take it home! Didn't think I'd like the olive colour but it looks fantastic. I've already changed the pedals to lo-pro mag II's and I've left some money aside for brakes, stem, handlebars, bashguard and tyres if I'm not happy with them.

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    ooo, you git!!! mine is still another week away heh, well i figured youd like the green, it doesnt look much on the specialized website but i saw another pic of it around here somewhere and it looks great, let us know how it rides im sure its going to be great

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    Wasn't really expecting to have it yet, so it wont get a proper ride until next weekend. Had a quick blast round the block - initial thoughts are:

    - it's gonna be good fun
    - the tractor tyres will have to go
    - I have no idea what all the knobs and dials on the rear shock and fork do, let alone whether the air pressure is right!

    Better do some reading!

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    ill probably leave the chunders on, apparently they are one of the best offroad tires there are at the sacrifice of being heavy, i dont care about that though, so how does it feel in the weight department? does it pedal well? how is the riding position? does it look burly, does the rear triangle look like it can take a beating? sorry for all the questions but i have also yet to see one properly in the flesh

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    It gets pretty muddy where I ride, so 2.3" chunders are going to make it a hard slog. What can I say - it's pretty heavy! I started out on a heavy Hardrock so thought it would weigh around the same. Either I've forgotten how heavy the Hardrock was, or this seems a fair bit heavier. It pedals well though, took it up a slight hill and it wasn't that much more of an effort than on the stumpy, though bear in mind I'm not used to rear suspension anyway. It looks really burly, wouldn't have any concerns about the bike with anything I'm likely to do on it.

    I've no doubt that everything is set-up completely wrong. The shop wasn't much help with that, but I got 10% off so didn't go there for the customer service. If I can't figure things out for myself I'll pop back in once I understand what the different settings do.

    I'm 5' 10.5" and went for the medium btw.

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    oh i know its heavier than a hardrock, thats about 33 pounds maybe a little less, the sx 1 is around 37 where the sx 2 is around 36, the tires weigh a ton though 2 pounds each so youll be able to maybe shave 2 pounds off where it counts straight away, i live in gran canaria so the last thing i have to worry about is mud lol,

    im hoping that theres nothing on my bike that ill want to change out, even though im getting a good deal its still an obscene amount of money to pay and thats not including whatever im going to have to shell out for armour etc, youve got me all excited though, im gonna try get some pics when it arrives, can you get any pics up?

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    Didn't think 3 or 4 pounds would be that much different. I will change the tyres though so every little helps.

    I'll see if I can post one later, seems to be snowing at the moment!

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    how is the riding position compared to the SJ do you feel more straight up? does the bike feel chopper esque, thats the feeling i got when i tried an enduro sl

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    It is more sat-up, but I've always preferred that. I changed my stumpy to a short stem and mid-riser to make it more upright.

    This is the best I could get in the dark!


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    phoowwar, what a weapon, looks black and white in that pic but i know its a lot greener than that, i know what you mean about the tires, they look like theyll roll over anything but i need a tire like that with loose dirt and rocks here, give us a little review of how it performs when you get her on a serious ride

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    Screw the bike....how does that red sports car in the background ride??? That thing looks FAST!
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    ha ha, i knew someone was going to chime in about that

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    Went down to my LBS last week Wednesday ordered up an 08 SX Trail 1. On Tuesday this week I got the call to come pick it up. Cut out of work early, flew down to the bike shop, set up the sag, paid my balance off. Get home checking everything out and notice a dent on the drive side seat stay. Must have been from shipping, cause the paint was not scratched or chipped, just a perfect square edged dent. All of the excitement for the new bike instantly disappeared. I had to take it back to the bike shop on wednesday. Found out today that the part is on back order and will arrive in 3 weeks from specialized. Good news is that it is rideable and can come back home with me, just got take it back when the part comes in. When I actually ride the thing I'll repost.

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    cool i look forward to hear what you think of it, im still trying to wait patiently over here for mine

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    Haven't been out for a proper ride, but just set the sag on the rear shock, fiddled with the forks and took it out for a quick test. Initial thoughts are that it's a fairly heavy bike, but doesn't pedal like it. Went up a few hills and pretty much had it one or two gears different (rear) than I would on my stumpy. Changing the tyres would help loads - tried a few wheelies and the front drops like a lead weight! This is my first full suss so enjoyed just riding up kerbs without bothering to hop the front and rear wheels. If I hadnt seen the kerb I wouldn't have known it was there!

    Think I need a new spring for the rear shock. It's 9" of travel and the most sag I can get out of it is around 1" - it's supposed to be 25%. Unless I'm measuring it wrong (eye to eye?). I'm 11 stone so I imaging you'll have the same problem d_f. That's pretty annoying..

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    well id rather have too little sag than too much, im also used to a stiff rear so that wont bother me, im probably less than 10 stone so my spring wont even know im there lol, as long as i can set it up so im not bouncing around like a pogo stick ill be happy, and believe me with the terrain here that rear will be active whether the spring is too stiff or not, once it even out the terrain and cushions my landings thats enough for me

    the chunders are heavy, my friends use maxis minions or high rollers but when i get mine im going to see if the weight is a problem for me, im expecting a heavy bike so i should be alright, also the sx II is nearly a kilo less than the sx I, thats nothing really but at least its something

    im hoping the bike will be here early next week, im going nuts waiting on it

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    Yeah, to be honest I'll probably live with the spring for now. It'll be easier to pedal with a stiffer spring, though it may lose a bit a stiffness as I put some miles on it. The chunders look indestructable - I'll keep them for downhill riding when I get round to trying it. I did consider swapping the tyres with my stumpy ones before the ride, but I read that they're pretty much impossible to get off if you have no patience!

    The only bits I'll swap right now other than the tyres are the pedals (for another set of Lo Pro Mag II's - cant be bothered keep swapping my stumpy ones out), and the stem for a Holzfeller cos the Hussefelt is just soo fugly. You've got those on the SX II so not a problem for you!

    It looks like the bottom bracket is adjustable. It's on low setting at the moment - any idea how you change it?

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    adjustable bottom bracket set to low, heh i dont even know what that means, Clockwork sems to be the main man around here as far as the SX goes, he might able to answer your question, how are your brakes? no squeal i hope, to be honest that was all i hated about the juicy 3, as far as stopping power goes, they had that in spades

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    No squeal! I've had brakes in the past that have done that - I just bought some disc brake cleaner and the squeal went away. Cheaper than changing brakes.

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    should be fine then, and with the 203 rotors they should be plenty powerful

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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic303
    It looks like the bottom bracket is adjustable. It's on low setting at the moment - any idea how you change it?
    Your bike should have came with an extra pair of shock shuttles. The pair on your bike are bolted to the frame on the down tube and the front of the shock eye bolts to the shock shuttles. One pair should say (low BB) HT 66.5 and the other (high BB) HT 67.5. You can swap out the shuttles for more or less head tube angles as well as a higher or lower bottom bracket height.
    You put your bike on a repair stand with the rear tire resting on a chair or box. (so when you loosen the bolts, the tire won't fall and cause the shock to slap into the frame) Look for the single allen bolt on the front of your shock eye, completely remove this bolt while holding the shock. Next remove the allen bolts holding the shock shuttles in place (these are the two bolts that hold the shuttles to the frame). Attach the High BB/HT 67.5 shuttles, place the shock bolt through the eye, snug up all of your bolts and enjoy. I hope this helps.
    I can't even try it out on my bike cause Specialized sent me 2 right side shock shuttles.
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    This has absolutely nothing to do with this forum... but I finally got notice that my T2 bike rack from REI is on its way after being on backorder for about a month. I can finally use it for my bikes. It's been getting hard to put a sx trail in the back of Ford Escape. I'm so excited. I got it for $312 to plus shipping. YEAH!
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    You don't like a fork because it's popular? That's the most retarded reason I have ever heard of.

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    Brumski thanks for the info on the bottom bracket adjustment

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    Congrats on the new bike, youll love it when you swap the Cunders for something lighter...

    Quote Originally Posted by arctic303
    Think I need a new spring for the rear shock. It's 9" of travel and the most sag I can get out of it is around 1" - it's supposed to be 25%. Unless I'm measuring it wrong (eye to eye?). I'm 11 stone so I imaging you'll have the same problem d_f. That's pretty annoying..
    Youve got something wrong here. The SXT has 6,6" of travel. The Shock has 2,75" of travel. If the shock compresses 1" youve got (1/2,75) 36% sag. Which could be ok for fast DH stuf, but a bit much for general riding.
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    Yep, thanks Brumski. I didn't get any spare shock shuttles - phoned the shop and they agreed I should have. They are ordering some in for me.

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    The first thing I always do when I get a new bike is take it apart at home. Nothing worse than attempting a bike repair in the middle of woods, and not knowing what the hell I'm doing. Or not having the right tools with me. Like the rear derailleur gaurd has to be removed before you can take the back wheel off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumski
    The first thing I always do when I get a new bike is take it apart at home. Nothing worse than attempting a bike repair in the middle of woods, and not knowing what the hell I'm doing. Or not having the right tools with me. Like the rear derailleur gaurd has to be removed before you can take the back wheel off.
    I've got some new tyres on the way so hopefully I'll work out how to get the wheel off. I couldn't even get the front wheel off when I took the bike home - never seen the thru-axle fitting before.

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