Glad I'm on spesh forums(instead of Ells or Turner)!!
maybe I'm not a deep thinker, or I'm not nearly as passionate about my bike's design, mantra, mission statement, whatever, but those Ells & Turner posts are amazing.
Those folks really are into why Tony did what and Dave said this...
Nice, simple posts here @ the spesh forum.
But that's the design of a 'forum', so I guess i shouldn't knock them.
Beer has food value. Food has no beer value.
I understand what you're saying, but feel a bit differently. I own two Specialized bikes and an Ellsworth (and others) but I probably spend 10x more time on the Turner board than I do here and in Ellsworth combined. Why? Because those guys are some of the most knowledgeable and technically competent contributors to this entire board.
Originally Posted by Biker75
<o =""></o>I donâ€™t feel that thereâ€™s anything particularly great about either Tonyâ€™s or Daveâ€™s bike designs (other than Daveâ€™s pivot bushings) and feel, to an extent, that large manufacturers like Specialized have an advantage when it comes to being able to near net forge frame components rather than a costly CNC process. For me, the fact is that if I hadnâ€™t been able to get my Specialized bikes so cheap, I probably would have been on a Turner.
<o =""></o>I had hope for the Specialized forum when Jake Wake was posting a bit more frequently, but unfortunately for us, he seems to have trailed off. I canâ€™t say that Iâ€™ve every been impressed with the technical background of the folks here in this corner of the forum and there are very few entertaining or insightful posts.