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    The First Enduro Converted to "Evo"

    Got my "evo" shock today from a member. alil bit of wiggling around and i got her in!

    the ride report is gunna have to wait i still got 2 feet of snow outside, BUT, just from rolling and bouncing around inside i can tell its super plush compared to the rp2bv.

    im on my way out so i still gotta fiddle with the rebound and LSC settings. ill be back a bit later with a report.







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    looks good.

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    That is a killer looking bike, i bet it performs alright too

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    How did you like my packing job

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr1000dave
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    So what exactly do you need to put this shock on? I still haven't taken my shock assembly apart, so i do not know what is different.

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    you need a evo shock with custom "clevis wishbone" peice. its shorter.

    this came directly off a new enduro evo.
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    cant get over how much plusher it is that the rc2. even tho it def wieghs a few pounds more. (weight watchers wont like it too much). but im goin for more am/dh bike so its perfect.

    cant weight to rip this up once snow melts.

    still have not set up sag and rebound yet. looks like should be ok tho. again ill have to update you guys on ride alil later.
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    There are two primary reasons I am considering this:
    1) pressure depends upon temperature, which here in TX can go from 74 to 19 in two days, which makes a huge impact on performance.
    2) coil is much more reliable and simply to check/adjust in my opinion, not to mention the ease of service in comparison to air.

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    That thing looks like a ripper! Nice job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2

    the ride report is gunna have to wait i still got 2 feet of snow outside
    Send it to me and I'll provide a ride report, it was 70 degrees here today and no clouds in the forecast for at least 5 days!

    Looks badass though, I can't wait until that kit is available.

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    How quick was the swap? I'm thinking that having both air and coil options might be nice.

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    speedolife- this is my first coil, but yes it is def super easy to adjust, i was always fiddling with the rp2

    el castigador- FU lol. yea i no it sucks around here, im loosing my mind (and getting fatter). i may have to take it for a snow ride (which sucks) or at least play in the street lol.

    thrasher- swap took about 20 min. its a pretty tight squeeze over the rp2. making to really anoying to place these 2 little washers in between the clevis piece and shock mount piece. i figure if you do this regualary should only take ya 10 min or so.
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    only other little minor prob u run into is that the "sagotron" marks will be off when u install this shock. i didnt take a pic of it but i think i can remove the sagotron sticker from the seat tube and move it down to match the etching on the clevis piece. let you know how this works out later.

    its a minor prob but i like the convience of the on the fly adjusting.
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    Your current spring rate and sag point may be the reason it feels so "plush" inside your house. Great for All Home riding

    Looks great!

    Can you point out the different bits & details between the air & coil parts?

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    like i said i havnt had to time to measure sag, adjust spring and rebound. will do this tn when i get home. but just by feel i believe it ok and has ok sag. i only bolted it up bounced around and had to go

    the ONLY different piece is the wishbone clevis piece. Since the coil shock is longer in length, it requires a shorter clevis piece.

    the rp2 length is shorter in length so it has a longer clevis piece found on non-evo enduros
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    Can you weight both please

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    i already installed the coil so cant wiegh that.

    the rp2 feeels super light..............the dhx def has 2-3 pounds on it.
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    Anybody have a guess as to how much this "conversion kit" will cost from Specialized?

    I am going to guess somewhere in the ballpark of TRIPLE the cost of the shock + manufacturing/assembly of the wishbone part.

    EDIT: Also, since the Enduro EVO's are shipping, what is keeping us from having our Specialized dealers order a part for the EVO and put it on a non-EVO model?

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    Wow I like

    Can't be 2-3lbs...gotta be more like 1
    Need riding impressions...I bet small bump compliance is awesome.
    Climbing though would suffer so it def as it's pos and negs.

    Looks sick tho!
    Nice job

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    its seemed really heavy when i was comparing both in my hand.

    theres still snow here. im gunna try and go for a quick ride after work just to see whatsup. yea. ittl prob bob more than the rp2. sorry for the lack of info guys, but it is feb durign the worst winter in ny lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrasher_s
    Anybody have a guess as to how much this "conversion kit" will cost from Specialized?

    I am going to guess somewhere in the ballpark of TRIPLE the cost of the shock + manufacturing/assembly of the wishbone part.

    EDIT: Also, since the Enduro EVO's are shipping, what is keeping us from having our Specialized dealers order a part for the EVO and put it on a non-EVO model?
    I'd bet $20 that they won't even let you order it. They wouldn't even sell me a $60 chainguide from an epic evo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2
    the ONLY different piece is the wishbone clevis piece. Since the coil shock is longer in length, it requires a shorter clevis piece.

    the rp2 length is shorter in length so it has a longer clevis piece found on non-evo enduros
    Are you sure the shock is actually longer? They are both supposed to be 8.5 eye to eye based on the Specialized website.

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    Looks good. Welcome to the coil club.

    Yeah I feel ya, the snow has melted at my elevation but its freezing balls so I'm staying inside.

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    looks great man : )

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    took it for a short lil ride yesterday. my sag is about 30% but feels good. no pedal strike. i may order a heavier spring in the future and test the differences between the too.

    small bump compliance is a big improvement. small bumps don't exist anymore. didnt do any drops aside from like a 1 footer lol, but felt amazing. super plush

    sucks i really cant take it for a real ride but i think the coil really wakes up the bike if you're gunna be riding more AM/DH than XC
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    Nice man, very nice. I'm rolling a 2010 Enduro, non-factory at all... and would LOVE this option upgrade.

    When the heck is Specialized offering this? Anyone know...

    Also, how did you get the hook up?

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    if you call spec, theyll tell you its coming out in spring.

    i got this from gsxr1000dave who bought an evo and didnt want the coil.
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    Yup, just got off of the phone with them. Out in the Spring... And the CS rep also said that you cannot just order the attachment part alone. This will be sold with the Shock as well... saying the shock is customer made / matched per rider weight and to the bike.

    Interesting.

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    yea its kinda strange. also b4 i boughthis shock i called them up and to ask what if a enduro medium shock would be good for my wieght and they couldnt give me an answer. they keep saying "it all depends on rider position" which didnt help me one bit.

    so basically i was just gunna wing it. the 550 pound spring it came with gaveme 30% sag at the moment, i might and adjust it more. also may buy a heavier spring and test it out.

    so far it feels great, and when doing dh at the park 30% sag is usually what i would run in an air shock anyway. i may get annoying when xc riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvrathlon
    Yup, just got off of the phone with them. Out in the Spring... And the CS rep also said that you cannot just order the attachment part alone. This will be sold with the Shock as well... saying the shock is customer made / matched per rider weight and to the bike.

    Interesting.
    Not entirely true. The reason is because its a custom stroke shock; 8.5x 2.125. So if you just bought the link, it wouldn't work with any shock you buy off the market because no one makes a shock that comes in that sizing. So you would have to buy the shock from them anyways, the reason why they've made it a kit.

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    so basically i was just gunna wing it. the 550 pound spring it came with gaveme 30% sag at the moment, i might and adjust it more. also may buy a heavier spring and test it out..[/QUOTE]

    The spring that is on there is a 500 I think

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    Has anyone asked what the approximate cost is?

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    just curious as to what dave replaced his coil with?

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    I heard 50-100$ for the kit but that doesn't include the shock obviously so factor that in.

    Cane creek double barrel will be available next month too and I'd take one of them over the fox any day of the week.

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    I replaced it with a rp23bv from a enduro expert. I do mostly all mountain riding and justed didnt think a coil would be best suited for my needs. I also replaced the front with a talas 36 so the evo is not so much of a evo any more. The coil stuff is a lot more responsive than the air stuff but it also weights a bunch more too. My evo was just a little over 33 lb without pedals and now with the air stuff its right around the high 30's without pedals.

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    correct it is a 500lb spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2
    correct it is a 500lb spring.
    Just didnt want you to go and order a 600 spring for it. With that spring bet you wouldnt have to worry about sag issues or any suspension movement either

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    GSXR1000dave, why the hell didn't you just but a normal Enduro?

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    Because colour matters. I'm also fussy :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingboy
    Because colour matters. I'm also fussy :-)
    When I spending 4-5 g's she better be pretty. What fun is having a bike if you think its ugly

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    so looks like im saggin too much. i called up fox, they have a spring to weight calculator. looks like they suggest a 600lb spring for my weight after all.

    30 bucks. ill have to update again after i get it.
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    Got price today from specialized UK on the Evo kit, it only comes in Evo colours so may not match and will retail at 450gbp. That's a full kit which will just bolt straight on.

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    evo colors? lol.

    its a black shock.
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    $725!!!!!!! Ha! As if that'll happen. Holy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2

    As I looked on the picture there seems to be some kind of spacer in RC2 shock. It seems to me it is standard 216mmx63mm size with reduced travel to 54 mm. But I could be wrong. Can anybody explain this? Thanks

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    interesting. do u think spacer can be removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedoflife
    $725!!!!!!! Ha! As if that'll happen. Holy.....
    gez thats obsurd. i dont think they would sell for that. i paid half

    besides, i dont think they would sell this for more than a cane creek db sells for.
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    Remember that's a UK price so not sure on us retail, although spec are fair with this usually. A ccdb in the UK is 20%+ north of that number still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2
    interesting. do u think spacer can be removed?
    I don't see the spacer your talking about. Unless your talking abot the coil bumper. If the yoke is similar to the one on the SX Trail, the coil holder fits on the yoke (custom, I think). What I just realized is that the RP23 is reversed compaired to the SX (4X version). The SX/4X has different type of yoke than the rest? I'm trying to find a 09 SXT yoke and coil shock to try.

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    Feel free to detect jealousy from my computer...


    Any chance you can get Eye to Eye measurements on the two different links? I'm curious on the difference in length between the two.

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    Here is the picture. In a red circle is a "spacer" and in a blue circle is a coil bumper. And I am wondering what is the "spacer" for. I am all ears
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails The First Enduro Converted to "Evo"-tlmic2.jpg  


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    hey it sounds like you are trying to do the opposite of what i want to do...i'm hoping to run an air shock on my '09 sx trail. obviously the yoke (that holds the back of the shock) is different between the two but i dont see why you couldn't switch between the two. my local spec. shop called spec. up and they said it cant be done. i ask why the hell not? i do know of a guy here in seattle area who put a DHX on his sx/4x. he got the split yoke from spec. but it wasn't easy

    Quote Originally Posted by OffCamber
    I don't see the spacer your talking about. Unless your talking abot the coil bumper. If the yoke is similar to the one on the SX Trail, the coil holder fits on the yoke (custom, I think). What I just realized is that the RP23 is reversed compaired to the SX (4X version). The SX/4X has different type of yoke than the rest? I'm trying to find a 09 SXT yoke and coil shock to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotteric
    hey it sounds like you are trying to do the opposite of what i want to do...i'm hoping to run an air shock on my '09 sx trail. obviously the yoke (that holds the back of the shock) is different between the two but i dont see why you couldn't switch between the two. my local spec. shop called spec. up and they said it cant be done. i ask why the hell not? i do know of a guy here in seattle area who put a DHX on his sx/4x. he got the split yoke from spec. but it wasn't easy
    I see what your talking about now. Did the guy that switched the SX to coil run a 7.875 or 7.5? I did this for fun and I've thought about having it PUSHed. Rides great but only give you a little more travel with the 2" stroke, compared to1.5".

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    not sure of the eye to eye but i could find out. what i want to do is reduce travel a bit by using a 2" stroke air shock with the 7.875 eye to eye. this would work nicely with the 2011 160 float i'm getting as i can reduce it down in 10mm increments. i actually just got an '10 sx with a DHX RC4 so once i get it built up i may not even worry about the air thing as my friend who knows more about shocks than i do thinks we can set up the RC4 pretty stiff.

    Quote Originally Posted by OffCamber
    I see what your talking about now. Did the guy that switched the SX to coil run a 7.875 or 7.5? I did this for fun and I've thought about having it PUSHed. Rides great but only give you a little more travel with the 2" stroke, compared to1.5".

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    the shock will be removed soon, as i am putting a different spring in. for all those that want measurements.
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    No difference for coil, it has the same i to i as the air shock/link. The geo differences between Enduro and Enduro Evo are due to the longer fork on the front.

    The coil has a spacer on it to limit stroke to 54mm, any more and the seat stay brace can clack the back of the seat tube on hard bottom out.

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    Very nice ! It looks outstanding.

    How does the coil version feels in detail compared to the RP23 ?

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    ok so i switch the coil to a 600lb. feels much better. sagging good and def better for my wieght.

    i think specialized has the wieght to frame size ratio all wrong. according to them the 600;b spring is would come on a XL. clearly im not a xl, i ride medium. i called fox, told them my wieght, the calculated i would need a 600lb, spot on. feels much better.

    the 500lb was really mushy and felt like it would bottom out to easy.
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    So the links are identical?

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    Seems odd to duplicate a part which is identical?
    I would have expected some difference to compensate for leverage curve between air and coil but I dont have a pair n front of me to study yet

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    Enduro 2010/2011 has modified 216x63 mm shock

    I have 2010 Enduro Expert with Fox Float RP2 BV shock. I measured it today. It is standard 216 x 63 mm and I think it is internally modified to have only 54 mm stroke. I was always wondering why I always could not use the last 1 cm of shock's stroke. Now I know why Now I would really like to try a coil shock on it but the specific eyelet holds me back.

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    snow is almost gone and will have a full ride report by next week.
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    hows that thing pedal uphill? does it bob a ton?

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    have you never ridden a bike with a coil shock in back? its not as horrible as you may think, especially with propedal and if you have a smooth pedal stroke. i'm amazed at how many people on here discussing the pos/neg of the evo act like coils are so foreign


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    hows that thing pedal uphill? does it bob a ton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotteric
    have you never ridden a bike with a coil shock in back? its not as horrible as you may think, especially with propedal and if you have a smooth pedal stroke. i'm amazed at how many people on here discussing the pos/neg of the evo act like coils are so foreign
    The Fox RC4 coil has no pedal platform.

    The stock RP does.

    So yes, "Does it bob?" is a legitimate question. And is more important to some than to others.

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    So guys how likely is it for an individual to get the mounting hardware machined for any old coil shock to run on a 2010 Enduro? Is it just the mounting hardware or is there really some kind of spacer on the shock?

    I ride an Enduro SL and love it, and really like the look of the 2010 Enduro, but I'm extremely hesitant about getting bogged down with Specialized only components again (like the e150 25mm through axle limiting hub choice on my current bike...)

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    I was thinknig of some custom machined mounting hardware for my 2010 Enduro too. I have 216x63 Van R shock at home and if I had a propriatery mounting hardware, it would be quite easy to modify it for 54 mm stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by persing
    I was thinknig of some custom machined mounting hardware for my 2010 Enduro too. I have 216x63 Van R shock at home and if I had a propriatery mounting hardware, it would be quite easy to modify it for 54 mm stroke.
    Please try this out and let us know how it goes

    I'd love to try a 2010 Enduro frame but I really do not like the idea of being restricted to an rp23 or expensive aftermarket evo kit.

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    I think as time goes by more options will be available. The enduro has only been out for a year or so I think well see more shock options available soon as demand grows. I got a great deal on mine so I went with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokfir2 View Post
    Got my "evo" shock today from a member. alil bit of wiggling around and i got her in!

    the ride report is gunna have to wait i still got 2 feet of snow outside, BUT, just from rolling and bouncing around inside i can tell its super plush compared to the rp2bv.

    im on my way out so i still gotta fiddle with the rebound and LSC settings. ill be back a bit later with a report.







    I have the exact frame as you. I am looking to put a coil on my enduro to use just for downhill and to keep the rp2 for just xc riding. Do you know what it would cost to buy just the arms? What would be the most inexpensive shock option? I really need some help on this. I also have another question. I am thinking about getting the rp2 "pushed" and having the big hit kit installed. Wouldnt the bumper limit the travel on the enduro? Thus allowing you to use a 8.5x2.5 instead of the 8.5x2.125. Do you know if this would work? It would be the same principle of adding a spacer on a coil.

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