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    Fact 8m vs 11m carbon

    Hi I am considering buying a new stumpjumper ht and noticed on the specialized web page that the sworks had the 11m frame and the marathon/expert only have the 8m carbon frame. I am guessing that the 11m is a little stiffer and lighter but am I going to notice it. By the way I race pretty competitively in cat 1. Also how does the vertical compliance compare does one of these ride smother or harsher than the other? Your input would be greatly appreciated.

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    I have a 2012 SWorks HT and 2013 Marathon HT as well as 2012 Epic expert. I don't notice a differance in the feel of the HT frames, I think due to tire set up and suspension set up. For the money the Marathon is hard to beat. My Sworks is a custom build with xx drivetrain/Carbon wheels and the marathon is stock other than an XO cassette and Sworks seatpost.

    However, on road bikes I can definately tell a differance. I just got a new road bike and went with the 2013 Expert SL4 frame over the others. The fact 11 was much smoother than the fact 8 and just overall felt better.

    MY overall opinion... A marathon HT for $2600 less with differant cassette, seatpost, and a set of XTR brakes will not hold you back from an Sworks. Due to a smoking closeout deal I got on a 2012 SWorks frame my HT's cost about the same.

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