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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    So you have autosag, and you put it up to 300psi and then sit on it. However is there a published air pressure chart with rider weight/psi? I can't find it on specialized.com
    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic View Post
    I've been told that it needs to go to @ least 300psi. Problem is, there are very few pumps that go that high. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Specialized pump designed for this very application. Sucks to have such a nice bike but unable to ride it.
    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    You can't set it up without autosag?
    I like the way that the 2013 Specialized Shock pressure chart pdf no longer lists suggested air pressures for the Epic's rear shock at all. That's maybe taking it too far as you can't automatically assume that the pressure that the autosag setting arrives at will be perfect for every rider.

    2013 Specialized rear shock pressure chart
    http://service.specialized.com/colla...hart_11x17.pdf

    My suggestion would be to use the 2012 rear shock pressure chart as a starting point and go from there. The auto sag setting is only going to be a rough estimate as to how the suspension should be setup. You still have to ride the bike, think about how you like the suspension to feel and make the small adjustments to get it fully dialled in.

    2012 Specialized rear shock pressure chart:
    http://service.specialized.com/colla...-Air-Chart.pdf


    Pictured below: Try the 2012 Specialized suggested rear shock pressures as a starting point if you're not using autosag.
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    Right WR, which is exactly what I did. It would be nice for them distribute a psi chart. That way it isn't a mystery to me what my shock is set at after I let the autosag out.

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    If erichwic's rear shock is broken it still might not fix the issue. It should be a good way of checking whether it's just the autosag playing up or if the shock is faulty though.

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    I was told that it can't be set up the 'old fashioned' way and that it has to go past 300. Something to do with multiple chambers in the shock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic View Post
    I was told that it can't be set up the 'old fashioned' way and that it has to go past 300. Something to do with multiple chambers in the shock?
    According to this bikeradar article from the launch of the 2012 Stumpjumper FSR an autosag rear shock can still be setup in the traditional way using a shock pump and rubber o-ring to measure sag:

    Specialized 2012 Mountain Bikes – First Look - BikeRadar

    What you could maybe try would be to pump the shock up to the recommended 2012 pressure, don't use autosag and then if it feels soft try bleeding additional air out of the autosag valve whilst you're not sat on the bike. It sounds like that will lower the pressure of the negative air chamber without affecting the overall shock pressure to firm up the inital stroke a little.
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    I'm bringing it into my trustworthy LBS today to get some definitive answers and insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uzj100 View Post
    Building a 2013 s-works epic. Can I get some recommendations on cranks and brakes? Going 1x10 for now. Will upgrade to 1x11 later as cash permits.

    Has anyone weighted the stock 2013 s-works?
    If you are going to go 1x11, get the least expensive crank you can that will do the job. XT or X9 comes to mind.

    From personal experience the new XXWC brakes are great. Light, good stopping, and trouble free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uzj100 View Post
    Building a 2013 s-works epic. Can I get some recommendations on cranks and brakes? Going 1x10 for now. Will upgrade to 1x11 later as cash permits.

    Has anyone weighted the stock 2013 s-works?
    Built one myself...21lbs 15oz. Specs are below:
    '13 S-Works Epic frame/fork (medium)
    '13 Roval SL wheel set
    '13 S-Works crankset
    XX gripshifter
    XX cassette (11-36)
    XX rear dérailleur (medium cage)
    E-13 XCX chainguide
    Blackspire 34t chainring
    Magura MT8 brakes
    Syntace p6 seatpost
    Ritchey WCS Axis 44 stem
    S-Works carbon flat bar
    Romin Expert Evo saddle
    ESI'S grips (chunky)
    Fastrak LK tires
    Any suggestions to help drop weight (Renegade tires aren't a solid option in th Northeast) are appreciated. Sorry for the poor cell pic but it's going to have to do. I was considering doing the 1x11 but wasn't sure of availability and I knew it was going to be challenging to get a spider to work on the S-Works crank that would accommodate the XX1 chainring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic View Post
    Built one myself...21lbs 15oz. Specs are below:
    '13 S-Works Epic frame/fork (medium)
    '13 Roval SL wheel set
    '13 S-Works crankset
    XX gripshifter
    XX cassette (11-36)
    XX rear dérailleur (medium cage)
    E-13 XCX chainguide
    Blackspire 34t chainring
    Magura MT8 brakes
    Syntace p6 seatpost
    Ritchey WCS Axis 44 stem
    S-Works carbon flat bar
    Romin Expert Evo saddle
    ESI'S grips (chunky)
    Fastrak LK tires
    Any suggestions to help drop weight (Renegade tires aren't a solid option in th Northeast) are appreciated.
    photos please my next hardtail will be 1x10 or 1x11 one of our local crazy fast racer is getting the 1x11 epic can't wait to see it.

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    After talking with the warranty dept @ both Specialized and Fox, it was determined that it needed to be looked @ by Fox. Had it shipped out today. Hope to get it back sooner and later before there's snow on the ground!
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    Some new toys at my LBS.White is 30g heavier that the unpainted black.Both look absolutly magic.Lots of detail you don't see in any pics of the bike.I had to take the white(even tho my comp carbon is only 1 month old hehehe).
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    Weight is with seatpost clamp and rear derailer hanger but WITHOUT the chainstay protector.That alone is 48g

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    I picked up my L Frame-Set this morning.
    Here some pictures. Weight is the complete nacked frame.

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    Is the white frame set available in the USA for 2013 or is that a previous year? Thanks.
    '11 - Epic Comp 29er - Size M
    Weight - 26 lbs 14 ozs
    Mods - Trail SLs, XT Cassette, ESI Foam Grips, Candy 1, EC90

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    Quote Originally Posted by uzj100 View Post
    Is the white frame set available in the USA for 2013 or is that a previous year? Thanks.
    white is 2013 but not available in the US.

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    Got my black/red/white one this weekend, didn't bother weighing it, but the detail on the graphics is nice. Although I don't care for the gold in the center, otherwise beautiful.
    S-Works all the bikes!
    Just another used cat for sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshS View Post
    Got my black/red/white one this weekend, didn't bother weighing it, but the detail on the graphics is nice. Although I don't care for the gold in the center, otherwise beautiful.
    Just got the same frame here. Lovely frame. The pictures do not make justice for it.
    Hopefully will finish the build tomorrow then I will post pictures.
    Got it to about 10.2kg.

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    Finished building it this morning. Still needs to be tweaked and worked on a bit.

    '13 S-Works Epic frame/fork (medium)
    Enve Rims + DT 240 (12x142 and 15mm front converted to 9mm THRU) + DT Aerolight spokes
    XX crankset (BB30)
    X0 gripshifter
    XX cassette (11-36)
    XX rear dérailleur (medium cage)
    1091R chain
    Magura MT8 brakes (160 rotors with Center Lock converters)
    Specialized seatpost
    Ritchey WCS C260 Stem
    Ritchey 10D Carbon flat bar
    Evoke saddle
    Maxxis Ikon tires

    all and all 10.3kg. Will be happy to hear where can I save a bit more weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaadd View Post

    Finished building it this morning. Still needs to be tweaked and worked on a bit.

    '13 S-Works Epic frame/fork (medium)
    Enve Rims + DT 240 (12x142 and 15mm front converted to 9mm THRU) + DT Aerolight spokes
    XX crankset (BB30)
    X0 gripshifter
    XX cassette (11-36)
    XX rear dérailleur (medium cage)
    1091R chain
    Magura MT8 brakes (160 rotors with Center Lock converters)
    Specialized seatpost
    Ritchey WCS C260 Stem
    Ritchey 10D Carbon flat bar
    Evoke saddle
    Maxxis Ikon tires

    all and all 10.3kg. Will be happy to hear where can I save a bit more weight.

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    why didn't you go with the enve post, stem and bars to match up with the wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    why didn't you go with the enve post, stem and bars to match up with the wheels?
    Had cockpit parts from Ritchey...
    Not sure how much would an ENVE save compared to what I already got.

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    But ENVE matches...

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    I'm looking into an Enve post. My shock should be back from Fox warranty by Friday. Hope to ride mine this weekend!
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    Just got my ENVE post today! They were backordered for a long time. The quality is so stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaadd View Post
    Had cockpit parts from Ritchey...
    OK didn't know you already had the parts I thought that if you were building it up from scratch It would make more sense getting all enve stuff and look like a complete package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaadd View Post


    Finished building it this morning. Still needs to be tweaked and worked on a bit.

    '13 S-Works Epic frame/fork (medium)
    Enve Rims + DT 240 (12x142 and 15mm front converted to 9mm THRU) + DT Aerolight spokes
    XX crankset (BB30)
    X0 gripshifter
    XX cassette (11-36)
    XX rear dérailleur (medium cage)
    1091R chain
    Magura MT8 brakes (160 rotors with Center Lock converters)
    Specialized seatpost
    Ritchey WCS C260 Stem
    Ritchey 10D Carbon flat bar
    Evoke saddle
    Maxxis Ikon tires

    all and all 10.3kg. Will be happy to hear where can I save a bit more weight.

    Ofir
    If you're using a Specialized seatpost you could save 100g swapping to a Thomson Masterpiece or possibly more with an Ultimate.
    A cheap save is to swap the Chainstay protector for a carbon or Lizard skins carbon/leather one. You will save over 40g for about £5 or $10. Everything else becomes more expensive. Though you will lose about 20g when you cut your steerer tube down.
    Love the Enve rims. I ride Enve 45's on my Venge!!

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