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    Epic Carbon Expert 2013 model thoughts

    Well it looks like it might be one of these babies iīm getting when my injured back is OK and that which size i shall have

    SInce i have a pretty serious back injury iīm not sure i have the same height (182cm) i might be a 17,5" size now but time will show fortunately the Epic Carbon expert 2013 is a 19" and just before last Christmas it was just right in size now after the accident i might have compressed my spine and thus be a bit shorter, but as soon as i get this thing i have on me i can try out a 17"5 and a 19" and see if there is any difference.

    so what you all think 2014 WC or 2013 (white) epic expert?
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    Hello! I think the new 2014 Epic its the best looking 29er bike ever created!! and Im going to try to get the sworks WC in white.
    2013 Stumpjumper FSR Expert Evo 29er M
    2011 Stumpjumper S-Works HT 29er 19"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    Well it looks like it might be one of these babies iīm getting when my injured back is OK and that which size i shall have

    SInce i have a pretty serious back injury iīm not sure i have the same height (182cm) i might be a 17,5" size now but time will show fortunately the Epic Carbon expert 2013 is a 19" and just before last Christmas it was just right in size now after the accident i might have compressed my spine and thus be a bit shorter, but as soon as i get this thing i have on me i can try out a 17"5 and a 19" and see if there is any difference.

    so what you all think 2014 WC or 2013 (white) epic expert?
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    wow...compressed back - yikes. I have an EPIC SW, and this is a 'firm' ride. Even with the brain open and low tire psi, this is still a firm ride. BUT, if you really want one and your 182cm I would say large. I am 175cm and ride a medium with a 100mm stem, and the saddle in the middle.

    cheers

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    ok so maybe a Stumpy FSR would be more "friendly" to my back in the future?
    I have on the other hand wanted taht Epic Carbon Expert 2013 since i saw it and might have a chance to get it as a replacement bike but is really more like a HT than a "plush" FS bike?

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    Yeah the stumpy fsr its way more relax than the epic, I had a stumpy fsr expert evo 29 size M, Im 180cm 34inseam and I could not raise the seatpost high enough for my measure, I change the seatpost for a 400mm and not even with that, dint work, so be careful what size you choose. Still my personal choice it’s the epic any day.
    2013 Stumpjumper FSR Expert Evo 29er M
    2011 Stumpjumper S-Works HT 29er 19"

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    go for the new 2014 wc epic is beautiful and so light it will help u!!

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    ok thx yeah i might take the Epic WC if i can afford it other wise i think the Carbon expert 2013 white is a good steup from HT
    but yeah i want the epic WC so bad but it isnīt cheap

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    Take the 2014 with that redesigned frame.
    Anyways here's a good vid on the 2013:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UL41AXVuSOo&feature=relmfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by molopoko View Post
    Take the 2014 with that redesigned frame.
    Anyways here's a good vid on the 2013:

    Wathan Trail Descent @ Horsetooth Mountain Park on a 2013 Specialized Epic Marathon - YouTube
    that was one bumpy ride geez how did he avoid all of those rocks and other obstacles
    i wonīt be riding that ruff terrain

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    iīm thinking between the EPIC WC 2014 or maybe the 2014 comp same frame not as fragile as the WC and cheaper and no 1x11 drivetrain but still itīs an epic

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    How much is the comp carbon?

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    Well the Expert WC is like 50+K in Sweden
    so it is rather expensive but if i can afford one of the 2 experts it will be my first 29er FS carbon bike ever so i think the 2013 expert is a good first carbon MTB well i think anyways

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    well it looks like iīm gonna get the bike i have been wanting since last christmas
    the Epic carbon expert 2013 white/red/black

    but now i saw the Stump jumper fsr elite it has nice components and the command post it is cheaper than the Epic but still the epic has something and i just canīt let it go it has an appeal i guess that just is something else
    well pic to come once i have a new bike either it is a Fsr or Ht
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    Hi one thing i forgot to ask if any of you have the experience

    as said i live in Sweden northern part and we have temps down to -25 Celsius not that i ride my bike(s) in that cold weather, but i do ride them/it in -10-15 degrees Celsius
    how does the FSR thing and carbon fiber construction react to cold weather especially since i comes form warm in house temp to cold temp?
    and in some parts as where i live they use salt on the roads to keep them dry and ice free how does the pivots and suspension/mini brain react to all this that has to do with winter and spring/summer? cassette and chain i know is a good thing to change after winter/spring as summer comes along.
    So am i big trouble riding a carbon epic/ M5 alloy stumpy in these weather conditions?

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    I live in Michigan and ride my Epic Comp Carbon in the winter, and the bike does just as well as any other bike. Carbon frames have no issue with cold weather, don't worry about that. The suspension oil thickens in cold weather which makes the dampers slower. This affects all types of oil based suspension and is not unique to the Epic. You can adjust the damper to a faster setting to reduce the effect of the cold.

    I try to avoid riding my bike in salt conditions. I have a cheap road bike with full fenders and studded tires that I use on salty roads. The pivots and shock are sealed, so the salt shouldn't get in. Your drivetrain will take most of the abuse I think. Consider getting a cheap used bike for salty days. It will save money in the long run. Fenders are really nice to have in the winter. Since the Epic has no fender mounts, I usually only ride it if the roads are dry or the temperature is below freezing.

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    @WillTheGreat

    ok thx well i try and use the snowcovered roads made for pedestrians and cyclists they are often hardpacked and sometimes little icy but i have like 294 spikes/tyre so iīm good in that department, it is a the spring the roads get a bit tricky as the snow melts the oil and other stuff makes some puddles that might be less good for the bike and clothes, but that is what one gets for living in Sweden

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    It seems as it will be the Epic Carbon Expert 2013 model.
    i am about to get the deal of my life on this baby so i canīt resist since i want the brain fork and brain rear schock
    so i hope once i can sit on a bike again it meets my expectations
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    i measured my inseam it is somewhere between 85-86cm my length is nowadays 181-181,5 cm so i do think i belong to the large group still 17,5" frame might be too short?

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    Same to me. I have 87 inseam and M seattube is too short.

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    HI
    All you guys that have had the brain function rear and front.
    How does it really work sure i have heard it is firm until you go off road i have even seen the rear brain how it looks inside and seen that "piston" that records the bumps so the rear suspension gets to work.

    what i donīt know is how i set it up properly do i just turn the knobs to where it says brain, and that would be it?
    i know it canīt be that simple there is surely rebound settings and such.

    so how doe is it work in real life and is it difficult to set up?

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    It's simple to set up. The rebound setting is like any other fork/shock and the brain setting controls how active the fork/shock is. It's not rocket science and you set it up to suit your own preference. I set mine very close to full firm and never change it

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    ok thx canīt wait to get on the saddle again

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    yeah guys i found out today that i will be a owner for the Carbon expert Epic 2013
    the insurance company gave me what i expected to get so like said i got a super deal on it.
    it is my first ever carbon/alloy FS bike and the best part it is brand new.
    at least i expect it to be mine even if i canīt test it yet but i will be able in 4W+ time to at least sit on it, last time i sat on it it was love instantly it was like maid for me, and the epic frame isnīt that big if compared to say the carve 19"

    ohh one more thing shall i replace the magura breaks to XTR M988 breaks?
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    well it is done i paid cash some part and the insurance company pays the rest on my new



    i will also be adding these items





    i might replace the X7 FD to a XTR FD

    well all i need now is get my back in shape to nest season and iīm set for some awsome biking i hope at least

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    Beautiful bike ..have fun and stay safe

    PS See how the Maguras go..the best set of brakes I have owned were the old Magura Martas but I haven't run any of the newer versions. I run XTR M988 on one bike and I am not a fan..they lack power and need bleeding way too often! I will be swapping them out when I can.
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    oh okay the i wonīt change the brakes as i understand the bed in is a bit of a drag not sure what bed in means?

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    Bedding in brakes is essentially laying down a nice, even transfer layer of pad material on your rotors to improve performance. All disc brakes benefit from this. Usually done by repeating high speed braking to near stop reps when pads are new but each manufacturer has slightly different instructions.

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    ok i see thx mate i have finally a date as when i am free of my "prison" that is a so called "corsett" where my back is supported and head in place as well so no looking down no turning left right and so forth.
    so 4W and iīm hopefully on a rehab plan and a step closer to get back on the saddle feels so good

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    well this is me on my new bike wich i canīt start riding until perhaps Dec. makes me mad since i want to ride it now but i canīt ypu can also see a bit of the "thing" iīve been carrying since late july and i need to carry it until hopefully 10th of october




    well it looks kin of small but that is because i canīt bend my back due to the thing i wear

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    If you're recovering from a serious back injury my suggestion for the initial setup would be to have the fork and rear shock brains full open to begin with, for the plushest most comfortable ride to try and avoid jarring your back.

    Are you allowed to do any exercise, such as riding a stationary bike? If you are you could always put the Epic on a turbo trainer with a slick tyre on the rear wheel.

    http://www.kurtkinetic.com/kinetic-t...-305-l-en.html

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    as of now i have no ideas of what kind of exercise i will be allowed to do initially after they take this "corset" off, one of all the doctors i met said i would have to begin with swimming or possibly doing some exercise in the water.
    but yeah putting the epic on a trainer would be awesome

    but man did i love to sit on it yeah soo much
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    Hydrotherapy is really good. I've been having hydrotherapy twice per week since the start of July. It's helped a lot to get my broken leg moving again. The water reduces your bodyweight so it's easier to do exercises whilst the muscles are weak.

    With injuries you just have to be patient, remind yourself it won't last forever and look to the future. Whilst you're delivering a climbing masterclass on your Epic in the hills next year the current issues will seem like a distant memory. It sucks now but the new bike is motivation to work towards when you're pushing hard in physiotherapy to get fit again.

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    thx

    yeah i guess that hydrotherapy is what i will be doing as soon as i can, and yeah watching the uci worlcup XCO and DH motivates a lot and seeing the bike yesterday and sit upon it made me wish time would fly
    so yeah rehab will take sometime to get fit again

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    Very nice!
    Could ypu post more pic's please?

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    here is a few i havenīt gotten it home yet there is a few more thing that needs to be added to it










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    itīs gonna be so cool because of the helmet iīm gonna guy



    another picture of my brand new carbon/alloy Epic iīm so stoked never owned such a cool bike Specialized know how to make cool bikes




    i canīt wait to get on and ride it only thing is it will be winter and snow but thatīs fine too itīs always good to ride in winter conditions it gives a fair amount of balance training and that is never a bad thing

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    I canīt wait to get on and ride it only thing is it will be winter and snow but thatīs fine too itīs always good to ride in winter conditions it gives a fair amount of balance training and that is never a bad thing
    If you live in Sweden I'd say that counts as "proper" winter riding. What tyres do you normally use? Ice spike tyres or a heavily treaded standard tyre?

    Before riding your new Epic in winter conditions I'd suggest stripping the bike down completely and putting marine grease in the rear suspension pivot bearings, around the headset bearings (very vulnerable) and making sure that the drain hole in the frame bottom bracket shell is drilled open and fully functional to let water out of the frame. That will extend the life of the bottom bracket bearings.

    The problem with Specialized full suspension bikes is that they're designed in California. Riding in bad conditions always seems to be a bit of an afterthought when they're being designed. The rear suspension pivot bearings don't last long in bad weather.

    On the 2012 Epic Expert carbon 29er the aluminium chainstays are open and unsealed at the dropout ends. (I don't know if it's changed on the 2013 Epic Expert carbon). When riding in extremely heavy rain or doing river crossings the chainstays fill with water, which is unable to get out again due to the angle they're at. If you've been soaked then turning the bike on end lets them drain. Last year (riding in the UK, wettest year in a long time) the most I got out was about half a glass of water from the chainstays alone!

    A few days ago I'd been caught out in the rain, after getting back home my 2012 Epic Expert carbon 29er was stood in the kitchen before I cleaned it. There was an ever growing puddle underneath the bottom bracket as the water came out from inside the bottom bracket. All I could think was "there goes the Chris King ceramic bottom bracket. I wonder how long it will be before I get to test the five year Chris King warranty?"

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    ok well iīm not sure when exactly i am able to ride a bike again, but when i will iīll check through the bike so iīm not in for some nasty surprises

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    Epic Carbon Expert World cup 2014 or 2013 model

    It's more about preparing your new bike so it will last a bit longer than nasty surprises when you first ride it.

    It's also something to do to kill the time whilst you still have your back held in place. My bike spent a year parked up after I crashed in August 2012. Every now and then I'd do some of the odd jobs that were needed on it, despite being unable to ride, more as therapy really. Even so, when I was finally ready to ride it a couple of weeks ago it still needed work doing to it, delaying being able to ride outdoors even further.

    How to speed up recovery process for broken bones?

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    ok yeah well the LBS needs to change the shifters to my XTR and the FD to Xtr and the bar to a S-works carbon Enduro Low rise bar and some other small changes before i can get it home so while i wait for the judgement from the doctors i also wait for the bike to be ready for transport home
    i do want it home so i can shine it up a bit

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    i use spike tyres 294 of them on each tyre

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    one thing i came to think of is
    the Magura MT6 brakes shoudl i keep them or should i replace them with XT/XTR brakes?
    how good are the MT6īs in comparison to other brakes?

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    Apparently the Magura MT6 brakes aren't too bad.

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/03/29/...6-disc-brakes/

    I've got Shimano XTR Trail M988 brakes (180mm Ice Tech front brake rotor, 160mm rear brake rotor and finned pads) on my Epic and they're fantastic one finger brakes. They take a little thinking about applying pressure smoothly if you're used to other manufacturers brakes, as the feel is a bit different, but after that they're confidence inspiring.

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    you mean if iīm used to the AVID elexir 5rslīs and go to xtr and apply as much power on the xtrīs theyīll throw me off or?
    what i mean is i need less power on xtrīs than the elixirs?
    probably on the mt6īs too

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    There's always an initial learning curve switching to new disc brakes. Each type of brake has its own quirks and lever feel that takes time to get used to. I always start off cautiously with new brakes, gently finding how they respond before pushing too hard.

    The difference in feel between Shimano disc brakes and a brake such as Avid Elixirs is in the lever action. The Shimano XTR M988 Trail and Shimano Deore XT M785 brakes (but not the Shimano XTR M985/987 Race brakes, which use different levers, lacking reach adjustment and the cam for weight saving) have a servo wave cam in the brake lever. This gives the lever action two stages when you pull it, an initial movement when you first pull the brake lever, quickly accelerating the pads to contact the rotor, and then a gentler feel for modulation and control once the pads are engaged.

    The reason for the two stages is to give additional brake pad / rotor clearance when the pads are retracted, to cut down on brake rub or friction without needing excessive amounts of lever throw. The servo wave cam moves the brake pads more for the amount of brake lever pulled initially.


    Shimano XTR M988 brake pad / rotor clearance

    In use this two stage action is why you sometimes hear people complaining about the feel of the current Shimano brakes, especially when they're new. The trick is to gently apply the brakes initially until you feel the pads contact the rotors. If you grab a handful of brake without thinking the initial servowave kick will exaggerate the effects resulting in a grabby feel. See the comments in the first post here as a demonstration of how not to do it...

    Hope M4/X2 vs. 2012 Shimano XT: Direct Comparison

    Something that I find greatly reduces any issues is to regularly oil the servowave cam and lever pivots. This makes for a much smoother feel. Practicing just rolling down a hill and gradually increasing pressure to find the brakes bite point is a good starting point also.


    Putting oil on the brake lever cam and pivots

    The next time you're in the bike shop see if they have a show bike with Shimano brakes on and give the levers a squeeze for an initial impression.

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    ok well they do not have any bikes with XT/XTR but neew craves come with deore brakes i think. i have tested the feel of the mt6īs when i tried the bike to see if it was too large but it was just perfect.
    the mt6īs felt like any other brake well iīl see if i go XTR further on after i get to ride it in the spring/summer
    nide to know that about the M988īs

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    this bad boy came today it was like holding a aluminum bar but itīs all Fact carbon hard as iron wonīt bend in the first place



    so all that is missing now for the remake or modded version is the XTR FD
    this one



    and these shifters are gonna be installed with the bar:



    guess iīm gonna get some new photos of it when it is done

    itīs gonna be so much fun to get up on it when iīm ready for it, i jsut hope i wonīt get any surprises from the hospital in a 2W time

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    For a 2013 Specialized Epic (if you're keeping the SRAM S-2200 double chainset with its 38/24 tooth chainrings) you need a Shimano FD-M985-E2 double direct mount front derailleur. This can work with either a 38 or 40 tooth outer chainring on a double chainset.

    Wiggle | Shimano FD-M985 XTR 10-Speed Double Front Derailleur | Front Derailleurs



    Hopefully the bike shop has ordered the correct model. If the front derailleur in your picture is what's been ordered it won't fit onto your frame.

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    ohh shit hope it is the right one itīs a dual pull thatīs all i know M986 something if i remember correct otherwise i sell the one ordered and keep the X7 for the rime being
    iīll write up that model name so i can order the right one it this do not fit
    thx for the heads up

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    There are so many different types of front derailleur at the moment. It makes compatibility harder than it really needs to be.

    If you're swapping from SRAM X-7 to a Shimano XTR front derailleur on a 2013 Specialized Epic you may need some additional mounting hardware too before the Shimano front derailleur will fit. The bike shop should be able to sort you out with what's needed.

    I replaced my Shimano Deore XT M770 front derailleur with a new one today too. The old front derailleur had worn out. The parallelogram pivots were so sloppy that the derailleur was twisting and the chain was overshifting straight off the outer chainring, as I discovered a couple of times last week.

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    ouch thatīs never fun well happened to me too but not on bike more computer hardware issues never fun, so have you sorted it out?

    Hope you do so you can shred more trails

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    It all appears to be shifting ok with the new front derailleur fitted. I had a big maintenance session this afternoon and sorted out several of the more serious bike issues that needed fixing.

    One of the times that the chain came off last week it somehow wrapped twice round the pedal axle. I wound up forcing the crank down with it still jammed to get my foot unclipped. I was freewheeling down this hill with visions of having to phone for a lift home due to the chain snapping. I got it untangled at the time but the SRAM X-0 rear derailleur looks like it might have been bent. It's changing gear properly but the cage is at a bit of an odd angle. I snapped a SRAM X-0 rear derailleur last year so I'm seriously considering replacing it just to be on the safe side.

    These pictures are of the derailleur that broke last year when I was 20 miles from home. The rock is just holding it open to show where the carbon fibre has snapped. I think I got a stick caught in the drivetrain. It involved quite a long hike / slowly freewheeling to get near enough to a road to be picked up and given a lift home that day.




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    ouch that looks really bad
    so your current rear derailleur isnīt in that bad condition?
    well i have seen some really freaky rear derailleurs that has been damaged one way or the other, often they tangle in the rear wheel making some nice damage to both wheel and rear derailleur.
    X0 otherwise works well?
    Never had X0 but i had X9 drive train before i bought my Carve Pro and what a bike it was so iīm thinking if that was a great bike what will the epic be like

    iīll post some pics as soon as the new stuff is on it Btw how do you like the bottle cage it isnīt in the way for the rear shock?

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    well i spoke to one of my co-workers at the LBS and he said that most likely i will not be able to replace the X7 FD if so well i guess it works as well as an deore xt i know the top swing xtr is insane fast at gearing you press the button and it moves the chain so fast you barely notice it
    well photos of my modded epic will arrive shortly iīm so eager but i know i need to think of my back first, my evoc backpack came today Nice and i can fit rather many tools in it

    well keep tuned for more epic stuff to come along

    one thing i noticed when i read about this awsome bike is it says fact 9 carbon but on the bike it says fact 10 and is manufactured so is it a typo over the internet or is it a faulty mark on the bike it self
    here a photo


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    It's happened in the past where the wrong FACT decals have been applied to Specialized carbon frames too. It's just a cosmetic thing.

    So long as you use a side loading water bottle cage it's possible to get the bottle in and out properly.

    I have a Specialized Zee cage:

    Specialized Bicycle Components

    There's not a problem using a Shimano front derailleur on your frame. You just need the correct mounting bracket. If you work at a Specialized dealer there might be one lying around spare as they came on a lot of the older Specialized FSR frames.

    The highlighted parts are what's needed:



    Page 13:
    http://service.specialized.com/colla...FSR-Manual.pdf

    Here's a picture of the Shimano Deore XT M770 direct mount front derailleur fitted to my 2012 Epic Expert. I removed the original SRAM S-2200 double chainset and X7 front derailleur in order to keep using my Shimano Deore XT triple chainset with the bike. You can see it in the picture above with the broken rear derailleur also.


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    ok i see well i guess we have something to do under none season
    so you use shimano bb90 bottom bracket for the xt crankset

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    The picture above shows my Chris King PF30 ceramic bottom bracket. For the 24mm diameter Shimano Hollowtech II axle you use plastic reducers in order to space it down to the correct size.

    http://www.aspirevelotech.com/Mercha...O-SRAM-CERAMIC

    It's ok so far. The Chris King bottom bracket is spinning smoothly and not creaking anyway.

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    alright great
    well iīll keep the Sram cranks for now but XTR cranks are so niice looking so who knows whatīll happen down the road
    well tomorrow iīll see my new baby with the sworks enduro low rise bar adn other candy bits

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    well here is the new S-works bar and my XTR shifters, they have canceled the xtr fd as it was the wrong type so i am good with the X7 i might go XTR M988 brakes next year if iīm lucky

    Also changing handle bar and shifters donīt know about teh grips but i got the bike to 11,5kg without pedals it weighs a little more woth stock shifters,handlebar,and grips






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    There's nothing particularly wrong with the X7 front derailleur anyway. It does the job it's supposed to do.

    What I find with the Specialized Contour grips is that it takes some experimenting to get the angle right, so that your palms are supported but the grips are still low enough to be able to lower your forearms and upper body when needed for descending and climbing. For the first couple of rides on a new bike I take along a full set of allen keys in a jersey pocket, to make any small position adjustments needed. You'll need to move the brake levers inboard from those photos too, so that your finger is just on the outer edge of the brake lever blade for maximum leverage when you're holding the grips. It's little things like that to look forwards to once you can ride again.

    I did my first offroad riding in 13 months today. The first time since breaking my leg last year. It was a short section of incredibly unchallenging gravel byway on what was otherwise a road ride. Even though my Epic was setup in road mode (50psi in the tyres and full firm rear brain platform) it felt great for the bike tyres to taste dirt again.

    The Epic is a good bike. I like the way that it's just as happy onroad as offroad. On the way home today, with three miles on the flat to go, I saw a cyclist on a road bike ahead in the distance. I buried myself to close the gap, averaging 21.8mph for the last 2.5 miles. I had got to within 20 metres of his back wheel by the traffic lights, the Ground Control tyres buzzing like hornets. If that hadn't been where I turned off I'd have caught him.

    Have you got a turbo trainer bike setup and ready for once you're allowed to start moving your back? The thing I really regret from the past year is putting too much weight on whilst propped in front of the TV. I'm finding it hard to lose it again, still being 10lbs above normal. I'd suggest trying to make sure you don't follow my example and stay near riding weight if possible.

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    well i do have a trainer but no QR fitting the 142+ rear hub, donīt know where in Sweden i can buy it either.
    well iīll throw on spike tires and start practicing lightly here around the parking lot
    to begin with and then expand the rides
    well glad to hear you're on the bike again

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    Maybe your LBS can help you out. I bought my QR (142+) at Specialized Concept Store in Stockholm (cykelspecialisten.com).

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    Specialized make a X12 142+ turbo trainer adaptor which you should be able to get in Sweden, or you could mail order it if necessary.

    Specialized Part Number: 0912-2050.

    http://www.thebikefactory.co.uk/prod...roductid=77245

    I use an old road bike on my turbo trainer instead of my mountain bike. You get sweat dripping all over a turbo trainer bike which trashes it.

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    Hi
    I met up with some friends form my "club" here in Sundsvall Sweden, we had a local race today itīs kind of marking the end of season which is a annual competition and watching all tehse people and bikes it was so much fun even if i couldnīt be much of help in terms, of rising tents and stfuu still did what i could, everybody was asking how iīm doing and so on.
    It was nice i will check if i can get a QR fitting my bike and my trainer otherwise iīll do the real thing when the day comes and i can sit on the bike.

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    Don't know if this is the best place to ask the question but I figured I would give it a shot. What is the comparative reliability for the Brains on say S-Works vs Expert? Are they pretty much the same or are the Experts a little beefier and therefore more reliable? I've heard a number of folks complain about their S-Works Brains being in the shop every other week (still don't know whether to believe this). If I drop 10K on a bike and the shock is in the shop every other week I would be more than pissed. I've had my heart set on an S-Works Epic for years, but would consider moving down in the line if there was better reliability. Thanks for any input.

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    S-works has the Kashima coating on the rear shock not sure what it does, the expert do not have it so not sure what differs them from another.

    what i wonder is the manual for the brain that comes with the bike shows positive and negative air chambers but they donīt come with dual air or do they?

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    Am i thinking weird if i say command post?
    i know the seat tube is big enough but might it look weird on a Epic carbon bike?
    i know it will bring up the weight but on the other hand perhaps the command post is more comfy?

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    these are the brakes i want on my new epic from get go


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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    what i wonder is the manual for the brain that comes with the bike shows positive and negative air chambers but they donīt come with dual air or do they?
    Here is the Solo Air Brain fork guide:
    http://service.specialized.com/colla...4259_TG_r1.pdf

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    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanVise View Post
    Don't know if this is the best place to ask the question but I figured I would give it a shot. What is the comparative reliability for the Brains on say S-Works vs Expert? Are they pretty much the same or are the Experts a little beefier and therefore more reliable? I've heard a number of folks complain about their S-Works Brains being in the shop every other week (still don't know whether to believe this). If I drop 10K on a bike and the shock is in the shop every other week I would be more than pissed. I've had my heart set on an S-Works Epic for years, but would consider moving down in the line if there was better reliability. Thanks for any input.
    I don't think there's much of a reliability issue with the newer Epic Fox mini brain rear shocks. After some of the Epic brain rear shock disasters in previous model years (2008 and 2009 being fairly bad, my 2009 Epic Marathon had the brain fork fail four times and the rear shock once. It spent a lot of time in the bike shop ) they seem to have largely ironed out the problems.

    In terms of the difference between the kashima gold coated shocks (S-Works Epic) and non-kashima (all other models) my (2012) kashima mini brain rear shock seems to be firmer and less wallowy than the (2012) non-kashima grey mini brain rear shock that came with the bike. Neither of my 2012 shocks have had reliability issues.

    Specialized change the brain tune every year (it's a selling point) so a 2013 or 2014 brain rear shock is likely to feel different when riding compared to previous years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    Am i thinking weird if i say command post?
    i know the seat tube is big enough but might it look weird on a Epic carbon bike?
    i know it will bring up the weight but on the other hand perhaps the command post is more comfy?
    The Epic frame has the external cable routing along the top tube for a command post dropper seatpost. You can fit any external dropper seatpost.

    A dropper seatpost isn't for comfort or suspension, purely for lowering and raising the saddle whilst riding. Along with the added weight dropper seatposts can also have reliability issues and free play in the mechanism which lets the saddle twist as you ride.

    If you want a seatpost to try and add comfort for your back you'd be looking at a flexing seatpost, such as the Syntace P6 HiFlex, rather than a dropper post.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...tpost-12-46314

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    I have the same bike in black and it's the best bike I've ever ridden! Thought about 2014 Expert but it will not be discounted and I don't think it's worth extra $2500 from my current setup.
    I upgraded my '13 Expert to: XTR FD(BEST upgrade! It's like night and day), XTR Shifters(Never liked trigger shifters), XTR pedals, Syntace F109 Stem, Roval Control Carbon Wheelset, Easton EC 70 Carbon Bar, Easton EC90 Carbon Post, Phenom Expert Saddle.
    I LOVE this thing! Weighs tick over 23lbs. Poor man's SWorks!

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    I have the '13 Expert and XTR FD is the best upgrade I've done. I didn't know that X7 was pure garbage until I changed it. XTR feels like butter! And the chain doesn't rub against the FD anymore which used to drive me nuts!

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    On my '13 Expert, I upgraded to XT shifters, again to XTRs. Difference was pretty minor. XTRs feels like "snap snap", XTs felt like "click click".
    They are both excellent shifters.

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    I completely agree with the other guy that for your XTR FD, it will be M985 E2 Type which I own. Like I said previously it is the best upgrade I've done for my '13 Expert(besides Control Carbon Wheelset).
    I hated X7 FD since the beginning. It kept on rubbing against the chain constantly which drove me f*ing nuts. I had it professionally readjusted 3x but kept on doing it. After XTR FD change, it's like butter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goahead View Post
    XTR pedals
    I've given up on the current Shimano XTR pedals (M980 Race and M985 Trail, XT M780 and M785 use the same design also). They're just too unreliable with bearing and seal issues. I got sick of warrantying them every few months.

    The SPD pedals that I'm using currently are the Shimano M540 pedals instead. They appear to be the old style of bearing, similar to the previous Shimano XTR M970 pedals, which were very good pedals. So far (touch wood) they're working nicely and I'd definitely recommend the M540 pedals over current XTR pedals.

    http://road.cc/content/review/71141-...m540-spd-pedal

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    Ok WR304
    i think iīll keep the seatpost and saddle for now but breaks i might change to XTR M988

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    If you're thinking of Shimano brakes I'd get a set of the matching Shimano RT-86 Ice Tech rotors at the same time.

    I've got a Thomson Elite layback seatpost and Specialized Romin Pro 143mm saddle at the moment. The Thomson seatpost isn't particularly light but it is very reliable and holds the saddle angle without ever slipping. That reliability is why I've stuck with it over a lighter carbon fibre seatpost.

    http://bikethomson.com/seatposts/elite-seatpost-series/

    The Specialized Romin saddle shape works well for me but I'm finding it a bit hard at the moment. There isn't much padding on the saddle. After a year off the bike my sitbones need some serious toughening up to deal with riding regularly again.

    The 2014 Specialized Romin saddles have gel inserts so I'm thinking about trying a 2014 one to see if it's a little more padded than my current saddle.

    http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/ftb...min-expert-gel

    There was a good lane on today's ride. It had been resurfaced with chippings but they hadn't filled in any of the potholes first before doing the surfacing! What looked like a resurfaced road was a continuous mass of bumps and holes for a mile or so. It was teeth chattering. I was wishing for a more comfortable ride than my full suspension bike as that sort of high frequency vibration and small bumps goes straight through without activating the brain shock. My left hip was taking a beating.

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    yeah i gotta go for the XT ice rotors as they come in center lock and 6 bolt versions XTR rotors comes center lock only if they havenīt made a 6 bolt version lately
    well i do so wanna buy the phenom carbon team saddle only that the seat post that comes on the 2013 epic expert is a side clamp and therefore the phenom with over sized rails wonīt fit.

    too bad on your ride mate hoep you find a more "Plushier" kind of trail

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    Is it Thursday where you find out when the corset holding your back in place can be removed?

    I'm seriously thinking about changing the saddle and seatpost on my mountain bike. I wrote that post the other day about comfort and of course now I'm thinking "hmm, why don't I try that too?" At the moment it's got a Specialized Romin Pro 143mm saddle and Thomson Elite seatpost. I'm finding it a bit hard after a few hours, mostly due to being unused to riding regularly. It isn't the actual sitting on the saddle that's the issue (turbo training is fine) it's vibration and small bumps jarring my left hip and left sitbone whilst riding outdoors.

    What I think I'm going to try is a 2014 Romin Expert 143mm saddle as the 2014 saddles have gel inserts in them. I'm also going to try a Ritchey Flexlogic carbon seatpost to see if that will add some extra dampening too.

    http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/ftb...min-expert-gel

    http://ritcheylogic.com/mountain/sea...-seatpost.html

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    I am using the duopower Arrow saddle and I' really hapy with it, it's cheap, light and very comfortable. 180gr. I got used to it from the first day.

    http://www.kingbarcelona.com/en/duop...e-p-14915.html

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    @WR304 yeah it now on Thursday thatīs my D-day
    @molopoko ok mate thx for the tip
    i Also checked with my LBS on those XTR brakes well seems Shimano here in Europe/Sweden wonīt be getting them in stock until 13 dec

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    I canīt but wonder what i might feel different if i upgrade my wheels to these bad boys
    also i have no idea how it feels to ride a FS carbon bike with alloy or carbon wheels.
    going from the Carve pro to this "dream" bike the feel the difference may not be universal but some difference should i feel, also it would be my first ever carbon wheels
    so should i upgrade them now as my wheels on the epic is brand new?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    I canīt but wonder what i might feel different if i upgrade my wheels to these bad boys
    also i have no idea how it feels to ride a FS carbon bike with alloy or carbon wheels.
    going from the Carve pro to this "dream" bike the feel the difference may not be universal but some difference should i feel, also it would be my first ever carbon wheels
    so should i upgrade them now as my wheels on the epic is brand new?

    I personally think the single best area for a bike upgrade is the wheelset, especially carbon. Carbon wheels are stiffer and absorbs small vibrations better and lighter.
    They are the biggest moving part of a bike, so saving weight here gives tremendous performance improvement. I LOVE my Roval Control Carbon Wheelset. I think the cheaper $1200 is a better buy. I don't think it's worth getting Roval Carbon SLs. Trying to shave grams is not worth spending extra $500, unless you are loaded of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    I canīt but wonder what i might feel different if i upgrade my wheels to these bad boys
    also i have no idea how it feels to ride a FS carbon bike with alloy or carbon wheels.
    going from the Carve pro to this "dream" bike the feel the difference may not be universal but some difference should i feel, also it would be my first ever carbon wheels
    so should i upgrade them now as my wheels on the epic is brand new?
    Did you have any good news today about your back?

    I really like carbon rims. They make quite a difference to the feel of the bike. The cheapest way is to have your Roval alloy wheels rebuilt into light-bicycle.com carbon rims, re-using the hubs and spokes that came with the bike. It saves around 100g of weight per wheel.

    Purchasing and shipping two rims to Sweden from China would cost $397 USD / 4117 Swedish Krona, plus the cost of any customs charges and having a wheelbuilder swap the rims over.

    http://www.light-bicycle.com/cross-c...ompatible.html

    Whilst I was at the bike shop today there was a new Specialized Enduro Expert carbon 29er there. It wasn't much heavier than my 2012 Epic. It was really nice. The top tube and shock mounting on the Enduro carbon 29 frame is incredibly wide. You don't really get the full impression from photos. I'd quite like one.

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...pert-carbon-29

    The guys at the shop were saying about the 8 hour races and enduro races they were doing. And then the inevitable question as to what offroad riding I'd been doing... "Well, as part of yesterday's ride I did 3.5 miles on the canal towpath. It was on gravel and it took 30 minutes back on the road afterwards for the shooting pains in my left hip from that minimal jarring to begin to subside."

    Here's a picture from yesterday on the canal where I stopped for a bit.



    I mentioned the Specialized Romin Expert Gel saddle a few posts back for maybe some extra comfort. The bike shop got one in for me. The gel padding is barely there and the gel version is still very very very firm. It doesn't look like it will make much difference over my current Romin Pro saddle. I haven't got the Ritchey Flexlogic seatpost yet but this is already feeling like one of those ideas that's doomed to be an expensive (and uncomfortable) failure.

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    yeah i am free of my "prison" now starts rehab.
    well seems i wonīt be getting that upgrade my economy stopped that thought
    well maybe some other time, still think that bike will be awesome the coming summer
    well actually i saw a S-works Enduro at my work it really has wide tubing, and most of all it has that nice XX1 group set really nice bike

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    really nice looking path that canal road sorry about your hips mate, hope you get those pains sorted out somehow.
    Anyways like i said rehab starting now the doctor will prolong my sick-leave with 3weeks
    that felt a bit short but i guess he knows what his talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    yeah i am free of my "prison" now starts rehab.
    That's definitely good news. It means that you're one step closer to being able to ride your new Epic.

    What are you allowed to do now exercise wise with the corset removed? When does physiotherapy start? Is it still a case of being very careful with the back, no twisting or lifting etc?

    The problem with my left hip is that it was already bad before I crashed August 2012. The crash last year has just made it even worse. Even though (I think) I didn't break the hip itself something was clearly torn or displaced in that area. There's lots of scar tissue around the hip and it's really sensitive still. It hurts whether I ride a bike or not so my approach is to get on with it as it's just one of many twinges and aches.


    This is quite a nice Eddy Merckx quote on the subject:

    "Cyclists live with pain, if you can't handle it you will win nothing," he told me earlier this week. "If you don't want to suffer, take up another sport. Winning big Tours and stage races is often about pain management. When the terrible accident occurred at least I escaped with my life. I was the lucky one, that was my reaction. I was positive and having worked so hard to succeed in cycling I was determined not to give up.

    "I was only young and the injuries were to haunt me for the rest of my career but I got through. I had to adjust my position on the saddle and I was always needing massages and manipulation. But I got through. In the end I grew philosophical. I could still turn the pedals, the bike still went quick. Not as quick, but still very quick. The only difference between me and my opponents was that I started most races in pain, they hit the wall three-quarters through or at the top of a big climb.

    "I began to use it to my advantage. Being in pain from the start made me sharp and on edge and well motivated. I had no fear of what lay ahead. I was already suffering. My opponents had all that to look 'forward' to but they didn't know when it would ambush them in the race.

    "Sometimes, also, it was very bad and it was as if I raced so fast just to get the race over so I could stretch out on the floor or the bed to get comfortable. The mind can overcome great setbacks and make a person very strong."
    Eddy Merckx

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...fast-Eddy.html

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    physiotherapy hasnīt started yet so i donīt know what i can do or which exercises i have to do yet.
    well too bad about your hip i canīt imagine the pain your having i hope you get it sorted out soon

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    I'd have thought there's going to be some "mild" discomfort from a broken back too? That counts as a fairly major injury to me.

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    well my thoughts are that iīl never be really pain free.
    well my thoughts are the same in my years iīve been trough alot but this must be the worst of them all.
    iīm bloody happy i live today the 11/-2013 could ahve been my last day alive.
    And i cleared from total paralyses.
    Also i finally today got the epic home

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    Now that you can do some exercises and move on you should be able to start seeing good improvements in strength I'd have thought. As the muscles get stronger and more stable that can help a lot with comfort too.

    What I always try and remember is that it isn't the physiotherapy sessions that get you better. They provide pointers but then it's the work that you put in between sessions that brings the improvement.

    I have two items that I use for dealing with pain:

    First of all think of the absolute worst most brutal ridiculous pain that you've ever experienced. Mine is when I was in hospital 1999 (or maybe 2000). I had an infected cavity in my left thigh that kept filling with blood and pus from a MRSA infection which had to be drained regularly. One time this nurse who didn't particularly like me did it. She cut open the side of my leg and then began scrubbing deep inside the thigh. As she was doing that she was catching the exposed nerve that runs down inside the leg with a piece of gauze. It was insanely painful as each time the nerve was hit it sent a shivering pain throughout my leg. To make it worse I'd been given some morphine beforehand (I hate morphine) which did nothing for the pain but made me feel sick and throw up.

    Now compare that absolute worst pain to how it feels today. Do I feel that bad now? No? Then what am I complaining about. I've felt much worse before so can get through this current pain too.

    The other cycling one is to think of your absolute worst day on a bike ever. Mine is one of the first E/1/2/3 road races that I did as a senior. It was so hard that I was dropped from the bunch after a few hours. After being dropped I collapsed by the roadside from exhaustion and came very close to quitting cycling altogether right there.

    Now compare how that low point felt to how it feels now whilst riding, such as climbing a hill flat out or doing intervals. Sure it's hard but it's nowhere near as bad as the worst ever. So no, I'm not backing off. Ever. Because I haven't actually reached the limit yet.

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    ouch man that must have been hellish painful.
    Well if i compare my back today against it was at the accident day it is about 60% less pailful today but then at the time man that hurt i couldnīt breath deeply it was so painful.
    now i have a stiff sore neck i fight with so 2 things i need to get back up running is my neck otherwise i wonīt be able to cycle the epic and worse drive our car.
    canīt look to the left or right as it is so stiff and hurts.
    the worst crash in the woods i had 2012 i fell over the bar and smashed face first in the dirt lucky me it was a softer mud spot had it been rocks,roots iīd look like Jason (friday13) well it still ended with a visit to the ER and a special kind of xray where you are given something before you go into the tube that xrays you.
    And luckily i hadnīt broekn anything i did get the damn bar end hittin my chest making it painful to breathe for a few week and putting me back on weight lifting for a while.

    so yeah why complain iīm still alive and kicking/ riding a bike

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    If you haven't been allowed to move your neck much for months I'd have thought it will just take some time to begin to loosen up. When does your physiotherapy start?

    On Monday at hydrotherapy I was trying to do one legged squats balancing on my left leg (the water and holding onto the handrail with both hands supporting some weight). I actually managed quite a few which was encouraging. I'm almost at the end now though. Another few weeks and that will be it for hydrotherapy unfortunately.

    I wouldn't mind some brake lights on my bike. Going down the final hill into town today the road is damp so I start braking (from 37mph down to around 28mph for the final right hand bend). Behind me I can hear the distinctive sound of applied car brakes squealing, only they're getting closer and closer and closer, almost sounding like it's my rear XTR brake the sound is so close! (it wasn't my brakes) Fortunately I reached the corner apex and got back on the power before they collected me...

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    Wow taht was close man yeah get a rear light and a head light they are life savers as well
    well on this thursday 2013-10-17 my physiotherapy starts.
    yeah my neck hasnīt been moved for 3 months so teh impact and the collar has made it pretty stiff and sore.
    here is my new "winter" apparel they arenīt that warm so i canīt use them alone during -13c




    here is my only summer apparel set the other one was destroyed at the hospital after my accident so iīm to buy at least one more big "S" set



    i also got the carbon bar ends but weird thing is the metal end plugs donīt say how many Nm they should be tighten.
    also how fragile is the carbon frame for example tighten the bottle cage i didnīt tighten it too hard and i kept the paper thing saying what kind of bottle cage is recommended i heard some noise screwing the bottle cage but that could have been the paper thing or just some noise not saying it has been cracked but havenīt checked either?

    a bit worried would be maximum bad luck if i cracked the frame screwing on the bottle cage as this is my dream bike since i saw it for the first time

    Also i wonder i have a carbon bottle cage from my last bike it is matching colors and all but it is not a side cage the so called "ZEE" it is the traditional is it doable or is it gonna get smashed by the rear shock?
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    Was your neck broken or was the break further down your back? I'd guess that the worst part is likely to be where the break was. If it's just stiff from inactivity then it will be a case of working the muscles to strengthen the neck and gently stretching for mobility. When I first started driving again in July I found it difficult to twist and look behind too (broken leg) but after a few months it's getting a lot easier again.

    You should remove the bit of card before fitting the bottle cage. You have the yellow sticker on the seat tube, the red sticker on the top tube and a few large shipping barcode stickers on the underside of the frame to come off too as they're just temporary stickers.

    So long as you use a 500ml or 550ml bottle it will clear the rear shock when in the bottle cage. I've got a Specialized Purist bottle at the moment.

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftb...t-moflo-bottle

    The side loading Zee cage works a lot better with this style of frame than a traditional bottle cage does. A side loading cage is worth having. The problem is that when you pull the bottle straight up and out of a normal cage it's possible to catch the rear shock's red rebound dial with your hand, changing the suspension settings inadvertently whilst riding. You can sometimes end up with no rebound damping on the rear shock as a result, which is a bad thing!

    I actually got some new lights last week. A Lezyne Zecto Drive front light and a Cateye Rapid-X TL-700 rear light. They're both USB rechargeable and seem like they should do the job as they're for daylight visibility in bad weather, rather than proper night riding. The front light is bright with three LEDs whilst the rear light is a single strip with some impressive pulsing flash modes.

    http://www.lezyne.com/products/led-l...to-drive-front

    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/...light-ec053177


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    ok thx yeah iīm thinking of gettin a sideload cage i ahve a front light from magic shine it ahs 2 small on left and right side in the middle a large i need it due to being really dark at evenings after work and so before summer again, tomorrow it is the big day physiotherapy starts.
    my back was injured at the middle of the back it is called TH5 it was compressed and it went in two pieces now it seems to have healed so naow it is a question of getting mobility to my neck and back as well as stregnth but i do suspect i canīt go to a gym and strengthen my back and neck,neck maybe but who knows, maybe i get some answers tomorro
    nice set of lights

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    A couple of back threads. If the break has healed well it looks you can come back to full fitness again. Reasons to be optimistic.

    http://www.paraglidingforum.com/view...er=asc&start=0

    Broken Back T12 Burst - Return ?

    Don't forget to ask at physiotherapy tomorrow whether you're allowed to ride a turbo trainer. They might have an exercise bike with a low step through (for minimal twisting) at physiotherapy that you can try.

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