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    Enduro'fied Stumpjumper FSR 29? Anyone try a 150mm Pike?

    Anyone tried slapping a 150mm Pike onto a Stumpjumper FSR 29?

    I'm thinking about trying the solo air 150 Pike on my 2011 SJ FSR. Yes, I know it voids the warranty (150mm > 130mm x 110%). But I would end up with an "Enduro-lite", which is about what I need for my riding.

    From a functional perspective, the new 150mm Pike has a reasonable A2C, reasonable weight, and a whole lot of performance. I'd get a marginally wider wheel base, a head angle that is ~0.5 degree slacker, a slightly higher BB, and 20mm of comfy travel. Those don't sound like deal breakers for going up hill. They sound like a lot of fun going downhill.

    I did notice that later SJ FSR 29er EVO models have a difference rocker link than their non-EVO brethren. So, perhaps this isn't ideal. So I'm curious if anyone else has been thinking really hard about trying the Pike 150 on a recent model SJ FSR.

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    The new 150mm Pike is sooooo good! Just came from a Fox 36 Float and this fork is in another league. Check the a2c of your fork versus the Pike, perhaps it's within 10%.

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    i have a 2012 SJ FSR 29 Evo. It currently has a TALAS 34 on it, but have been eyeballing a pike for an upgrade.
    I now can't decide between 150mm and 140mm travel. would love to hear some other's experiences.

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    id go with the 150mm dual air pike. then you can ride around most of the time in the lower 130mm setting and boot it up to the 150mm when tackling technical downhills. Problem solved!

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    not trying to derail the thread, but i wouldn't expect a dual travel fork to be as nice as the solo version. I'm basing that off my current TALAS characteristics, so i'm hoping to hear from others that have committed to the longer travel and went with the solo air.

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    I am running a 150mm pike dual position air on a 2014 stumpy fsr evo 29er and loving it. Super playful. Very happy with the fork so far. The only thing I had an issue with is the rockshox recommended pressures seem to be quite high. I've ended up running my air pressure quite about lower than the guide lines printed on the fork leg. Basically just played around until I hit 30% sag. My previous bike had a solo air revelation on it. The dual position pike rides pretty high up in its travel, still gets full range through its travel, and the increase in stiffness due to the larger stanchions is incredible. The fox talas has a reputation for having a poor ride compared with their float forks. I wouldn't say that is the case here though I haven't ridden the pike solo air and am comparing the dual position to a revelation solo air.

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    I am very interested in puting a Pike Dual 150 on my 2012 S-works Stumpy.

    I have a Fox 130 RLC (OEM) on it, the published Axle to crown for the 2013 version is 531mm. I think that mine measures 545ish. I am potentially measuring longer because I am measuring on an angle, vs parrallel to the steerertube.

    The Pike 150 has a published Axle to crown of 561 (or 531 when in the lower setting).

    So the published Fox 32, 130mm Axle to crown is the same as the published Pike 150mm in the reduced travel setting (although I technically lose 10 mm of travel when I run the Pike short).

    The Fox 32 is available in two offsets, is it fair to assume that the 130mm (RLC FIT QR15) would have the 46mm offset? Or will it have the same offset as the F34s (I think they are 51ish)

    Am I looking at all this correctly?

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    Enduro'fied Stumpjumper FSR 29? Anyone try a 150mm Pike?

    Looks like you can adjust the travel on the solo air pike w/ a shaft change. Parts are ~$40. Takes a lot of the risk out if you don't like the taller geometry. See page 12.

    http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/si...e_manual_0.pdf

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    Enduro'fied Stumpjumper FSR 29? Anyone try a 150mm Pike?

    Nevermind. Reviewing the parts diagram, this does not appear to change A2C as I originally assumed.

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    After some more measuring, i found that the travel reduction spacer is no longer in my Fox Fork, so I am running a 150mm travel fork, that should have increased the A2C by 20 mm. Bike handles perfect. Adding the Pike should do the same thing, only less noodley.

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    I have a SJFSR29r Expert and want to replace the fox noodle it came with up front. I would love to get the DPA Pike in black, but need it in a 130mm as I like the geometry as is. I have been thinking of just getting the black 140mm SA and changing the air shaft to 130mm, that is super easy.

    Has anyone however stuck a DPA air spring in a SA crown assembly. I see there are two different CSU's, one for DPA and one for SA. Is there actually a difference?

    And can you then attach the 160mm DPA air shaft of the 26"(to lower the travel to 130mm) on the 29r. You can surely do it with the solo air.

    Any light shed on this subject would be greatly appreciated. I am stuck in Switzerland where thinking outside the box is difficult.

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    Im interested in a PIKE for my stumpy fsr comp 26er. I currently have the 140mm fox fork, and I am looking to keep the same geometry. So if I get a pike, how does the dual air postion work if I want to reduce travel down to 140? Im a little confused how that works since the manual off of srams website isnt very clear. Do I just turn the nob, similar to the fox talas, or put one of those tokens in?

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    The Solo air comes with tokens and it is used to change the air volume in the air chamber and adjust your spring rate. To adjust the travel on the SA you need to change out the air shaft(check the manual for part numbers). To get you 140mm of travel you would need to do that on the 26". Cost is about $40 for the part + labour.

    The Dual position Air works like the TALAS. To get it it to 140mm at long travel I am not sure what to do and I am still awaiting answers. If you are ok you could take the 150mm, move the switch and it becomes a 120mm. Then you are working on either side of your 140mm. As soon as I have answers on changing the travel on the DPA(or have taken the plunge and done it myself), I will post something.

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    Great thanks let us know what you find out. I sweeped the internets and havent found a straight answer. From what I understand the revelation also has dual air and is adjustable in 10mm increments.

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    That is true, but the Pike is a different beast. If you are content with 140mm travel without travel adjust, just go for the 150mm SA and stick the new Air shaft in there. I might do the same with mine. Buy the 140mm and stick the 130mm air shaft in there. If I struggle doing the long climbs I might buy the DPA and try to make it work. That is if you can stick the DPA in the SA CSU. I see that they sell the CSU as either a SA or DPA. Not sure if there is a difference though. IF you go on the RS website they now have a service manual as well as a spare parts list for the Pike. Quite helpful if you are slightly technically minded.

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    Hi All,

    Sorry to bring back and old thread but lots of great info in here. I'm in this same boat after riding the '13 Fox evolution 32 for two seasons. Have heard lots of great things about the pike and was going to go 140mm solo air. Any reviews so far? (on a '13 Stumpjumper comp 29).

    Thanks!

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    I'm on a different platform (RM Instinct) but basically the same suspension setup, nearly identical geometry, and the same F32-Evo fork, and I went to the Pike RC 150... seriously never a thought of looking back.

    I'm partial to the solo air (bottomless tokens, especially in any long travel fork are an immensely helpful tuning tool). The RCT3 I'm sure would be nicer in many regards, but the RC for set-it-and-forget-it types performs the same, and if I need to make the fork less active for fire roads/climbs/pavement, a few clicks of LSC on and it performs great. The Pike is so good at staying up in it's travel and not being hapless and wallowy in the mid-travel (like my Fox32 was) that I wouldn't dream of goinf back.
    The lateral stiffness is great, and overall I'm really happy with that pickup.

    The A2C growth is non-trivial - I think the Stumpy could do with a 1° slacker setup, so going to a 140mm Pike would put that on point, but the 150 would put it into the sub-67° LT29er club, which very much on the all-mountain side of things -- Awesome for chunky descents and high speed stability over bumps and undulations, but starting to get a bit piggish on technical climbs with a little bit of steering precision dilution, and of course that also puts the stack measurement even higher (a lot more relevant for the L/XL sizes). I think that second downside is why they make a dual air Pike, but if I'm willing to move my weight around some to keep the nose of the bike hooked up on climbs, I don't think I'm losing a thing... while lots of reviewers aren't as stoked on the outright trail/descent performance of the Dual Air flavor (and as I alluded to earlier, the loss of being able to use the bottomless token volume spacers in the air spring is a negative to me, let alone the cost delta).

    Now that I have the Fox CTD-Evo shock out back tuned and dialed how I like, it pretty much lives in Trail mode (only goes to Climb on pavement/fire roads, and I'll switch it to Descend for anything lift serviced), and the Pike RC complements it beautifully out front.

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    I've got a 140mm pike on mine. Rides great. You won't regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins17 View Post
    Hi All,

    Sorry to bring back and old thread but lots of great info in here. I'm in this same boat after riding the '13 Fox evolution 32 for two seasons. Have heard lots of great things about the pike and was going to go 140mm solo air. Any reviews so far? (on a '13 Stumpjumper comp 29).

    Thanks!

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    I sold my SJ, but have a Pike on the new bike. Looking back, I dont understand why I did not do the upgrade. If you like your SJ(I had issue with the long chainstays too) then get the Pike. I would go with the Solo air as the fork gives you a bit more tunability than the Dual Position. If fiddling is not your thing and you do a lot of technical climbing the the DP might be your thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midbunchlurker View Post
    I've got a 140mm pike on mine. Rides great. You won't regret it.
    Same here. Go for it.

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    I did the 150mm Dual position air on the 29er evo. Love it. You can ride it like an xc bike in low position or like an enduro in the high position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins17 View Post
    Hi All,

    Sorry to bring back and old thread but lots of great info in here. I'm in this same boat after riding the '13 Fox evolution 32 for two seasons. Have heard lots of great things about the pike and was going to go 140mm solo air. Any reviews so far? (on a '13 Stumpjumper comp 29).

    Thanks!

    J
    I was essentially in the same boat as you except my bike is a 2013 Comp 26". I put a 150mm Pike solo air on the bike and still run 140mm in the rear. It absolutely transformed the bike in a positive way. I didn't like the Fox 32 at all.

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