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    Enduro SL Shock Replacement: Float CTD or Monarch RT3

    I posted this in the Suspension forum, got 60+ views and no responses... hopefully someone here can help

    Hi all, I've done a lot of searching and most of the Monarch RT3 reviews/threads are based on the PUSHed version which they seem to not be making anymore. So forgive me if I've committed a forum sin with this thread.

    I currently ride an 08 Enduro SL Sworks with a bunch of upgraded goodies (complements of the previous owner, my bro-inlaw). I love everything about the bike but I've heard the rear shock pales in comparison to other shocks. I'm looking to replace it with either the Float CTD Evolution or the Monarch RT3 (both stock not PUSHed). Any input on the choice between the two? I'm in Marin and need as much benefit from a shock on climbs as I do on the descents.

    Thanks for the input!

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    I have always been happy with the AFR. I can see going coil if you mainly do lift serve DH or a platform shock if you do a lot of fire road climbing. Sounds to me like you need the shock you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsj3831 View Post
    I have always been happy with the AFR. I can see going coil if you mainly do lift serve DH or a platform shock if you do a lot of fire road climbing. Sounds to me like you need the shock you have.
    I do a fair amount of fire road/less technical climbing. Also, I feel like the AFR isn't as plush or pleasant going downhill on nasty terrain. Maybe it's just me but the AFR doesn't feel like it lives up to the E150 up front when going down??

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    I've had two AFR shocks both stock,
    One felt like it had been pushed, can't fault it, still got it
    The other felt lacking in the compression ? Cheap, not right

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    Perhaps I'm expecting too much from it, but if I run 30% sag, it's actually pretty compliant and plush but it bottoms out on moderate trails. If I run it with less sag, it's pretty brutal but it helps with the bottoming out. I'm definitely new to the technical aspects of full suspension bikes (although I've ridden bikes for a while)... maybe I'm asking for too much? I want plush downhill over rocky/rutty terrain and a few drops and I want efficiency going uphill. I feel like going up is pretty good with the right sag, but I would like more plush going down.

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    Have you tried running the compression adjuster in number two or three,
    I find number one too open ? Blows through to easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnoats View Post
    Have you tried running the compression adjuster in number two or three,
    I find number one too open ? Blows through to easy
    I just bought a CTD online. Should have it on the bike soon. I'll let you know how it does. I just rode with someone yesterday who has the CTD on his enduro sl and loves it.

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    My RP23 in low rebound, low compression tune is pretty good and miles better than the AFR. But I have the 2012 RP23 shock on my sworks SL. I run it on "1" most of the time and it doesn't bob much and gives a bit more pop off undulations than leaving it wide open.
    Last edited by Racing Ralph; 04-01-2013 at 02:56 AM. Reason: forgot a bit to make it clearer

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    marc.t - What's the verdict on the Float CTD? I'm tired of my AFR for the same reasons that many have listed. Just curious if the CTD works well on the Enduro SL. I don't see how it could be worse than the AFR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj.29er View Post
    marc.t - What's the verdict on the Float CTD? I'm tired of my AFR for the same reasons that many have listed. Just curious if the CTD works well on the Enduro SL. I don't see how it could be worse than the AFR.
    I ordered it online, and received the wrong set of mounting hardware. FYI the carbon versions of the SL have a different mounting width on the lower shock mount than the top. It should be 22mm wide on top and 27.4mm wide on bottom. The store is sending out the proper hardware now and I should have it on the bike for a ride this weekend. Another item of note, with the CTD shock in the 7.875x2.25 size, it only comes in the extra volume can. At my weight (185lbs with gear) and the leverage ratio of the SL, it may be necessary to use the Fox volume reducer kit to change the compression ratio. I'll give it a try as is and see how it does.

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    Follow up:

    I've ridden the CTD twice now and I love it! I guess the best way to describe it is I don't notice anything while riding. What I mean is that it handles so nicely that I set it to C T or D and just ride and don't think about it until the next section, whereas with the AFR it always seemed to remind me that it was there: awkward on full firm, too soft on full soft, the two in between settings were never right. With the CTD I'm at about 30-35% sag and I never bottomed out. With the AFR, at 25%, it'd bottom out on the basic China Camp Loop. So I really like the Fox shock. Much more plush without bottoming out and I feel like I have better traction or contact with it. Definitely recommend it.

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    Hi. How much was the shock conversion all together? What fork are you running? I am doing the math on suspension replacement or just getting a new bike all together. I am kind of over the whole specialized suspension experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMH22 View Post
    Hi. How much was the shock conversion all together? What fork are you running? I am doing the math on suspension replacement or just getting a new bike all together. I am kind of over the whole specialized suspension experiment.
    I'm in it about $300. I'm running the E150 fork, which I like for the most part. What fork do you have? If you don't have the E150, and you aren't satisfied with your current fork, it might not be a bad idea to change it out. It's more expensive to switch out the dual crown for a single crown: the e150 has a 25mm axle and hub, so you need to go with a different hub for any other fork, also, the e150 has an integrated stem so you need to buy a new stem, etc. With a single crown, you can switch out forks for probably $300 less than I can.

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    I have the E150. It is a creaky noisy fork. The performance is pretty good just looking for a better climbing bike that has better suspension too. Does your E150 creak?

    Thanks

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    E-150 creak? Not at all. I have had occasional problems with the stem/bars creaking - usually fixed with assembly paste.

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    I have tried that. It is the bars and stem. Thanks

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