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    Hope Enduro 2004

    This might be in the forum allready, but here goes. I seem unable to get the full travel on the rear of this bike. I have put 170lbs in the shock for a riders weight of 12st 7lb. The main problem is that what ever I put in the back after sag I get about 3/4" travel from the shock. Is this correct I was thinking of going for the BETD linkage kit . But if the shock is not performing I should fix that first.

    Any advise welcome.

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    Recommended sag is usually 25-33 % (33 for FR) of shock travel, so you should have about twice that travel after sag. You now have about 63 % sag, and that should make the rear really plush, but propably makes it bottom out very easily and might makes it heavier to pedal.

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    I'm in the same boat, what's the SAG most of you are using with the stock shock so u r using almost full travel?

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    This is after sag

    Hi thanks for the response.

    What I should have said was that after setting sag 25% to 33% . Its then that I get 3/4" travel on the shock. As Air shocks are linear I don't quite understand how it can be more plush . Once sag is set I will still only get 3/4" From the shock.

    Are ava seeves any good will it produce a more exponential curve and full travel?

    Many thanks

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    Air shocks are anythin but linear. They tend to have a "lazy" spot during the first 20% of their travel before they ramp up dramatically. For example, if you compress a syringe, there is little resistance initially, but if you compress the cylinder by 50%, there is a corresponding increase in pressure of 200% within the cylinder itself.

    Personally, the only reason why I run a Fox Float on on my Enduro is because of weight issues. I don't like the way the rear end blows through most of it's travel when hitting bumps at speed and I don't like having to over-pressurise the shock to stabilise the pedal platform (my Float is pro-pedal equipped BTW).

    I've not tried the Manitou Swinger or DHX Air, but for a cosistent and linear response I'd go for a coil shock every time. I do also run a Romic D for particularly gnarly terrain and with the exception of it's weight it makes the Float obsolete.

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    Hi
    Its normally taken that air is linear and springs are non linear. I personally prefere the simplicity of springs and the better ride. Air tends to require constant attention before and during rides.
    Do you get full travel without using excessive sag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smith
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    Its normally taken that air is linear and springs are non linear. I personally prefere the simplicity of springs and the better ride. Air tends to require constant attention before and during rides.
    Do you get full travel without using excessive sag?
    is an air mattress that is half full harder or softer than one that is overfilled? too much sag and you will bottom out or have alot of bobbing.not enough and your ride will be harsh
    set your sag to about 5/8" , then adjust your rebound . the amount of actuall travel you have depends on the geometry of your bike
    you shouldn't need to give constant attention once its dialed in . I have a fox and a cloud nine rear shock and I havent had to adjust either one in over a year.
    Alot of people seem to like the coil over shocks but they mostly do jumps and downhill riding. because they are heavier the xc riders don't use them

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    springs are linear

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Smith
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    Its normally taken that air is linear and springs are non linear. I personally prefere the simplicity of springs and the better ride. Air tends to require constant attention before and during rides.
    Do you get full travel without using excessive sag?
    Air it's progressive like an exponential curve. Springs are linear.
    I know the newer floats and rp3 are more linear, but if someone is geting full travel from the old float I'd like to know the sag they used.

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    I had the same problem once but I realized that the iTch switch was set to the 4" travel mode.

    I read somewhere that it made a difference if the shock was filled in 4" or 5" mode. Try releasing all of the air out of your shock and fill in the 5" mode.
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