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    Custom 2015 Epic Expert World Cup (EDIT: Now Weighed w' Pics)

    The 2015 orange beast below is now waiting in the store to be custom built with s-works parts. I've been dying to experience the Epic World Cup geometry. Just 2 days until she's ready to ride.

    Once finished this will be the spec:

    S-Works Carbon Bar
    Syntace -16 degree 90mm stem
    S-Works Seatpost
    Selle Italia Superflow
    2013 S-Works Crank w' 34 Wolftooth ring
    XTR Race brakes
    Roval Control SL
    2013 Rockshox SID World Cup w Brain, Carbon steerer
    XTR pedals
    ESI Chunky grips
    The X01 shifting will stay as is.

    I'll post the weight once it's all build up, I pick it up on Friday. I'm deciding between running Fast Traks, the 2.3" Renegades, or Schwalbe rubber...

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    **EDIT**

    The complete bike weighs 10.29kg (22.7lb?) with XTR pedals, 2 bottle cages, and the SWAT tool. I'm happy with that!

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    you do know the s-works seat post is 270g?
    but i have the same post stunning and the phenom pro saddle i love it wish i could afford the x01 and carbon rovals non sl
    great bike

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    Wow,nice color,what market is that ?
    Roadie DNA,mtbike curious.

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    Nice,
    I'm on the waiting list with my dealer for this bike but I'm taking whatever color they can get me sooner.

    Question: I've seen some literature stating that the seatpost diameter is 30.9 for this bike. I'm pretty sure that is what the dealer book says also. I was happy to see this because I could take my Thomson Masterpiece off my 2011 epic expert evo and use that. However, I've also been seeing specs for other 2015 Epic's (Sworks) and it says it's still the 27.2.

    Can you confirm what size it actually is. Seems like it would stay exactly the same as 2014 (27.2) but what do I know.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Wow,nice color,what market is that ?
    Australia. Thanks mate, it's my fave colour.

    Quote Originally Posted by stully05 View Post
    Nice,
    I'm on the waiting list with my dealer for this bike but I'm taking whatever color they can get me sooner.

    Question: I've seen some literature stating that the seatpost diameter is 30.9 for this bike. I'm pretty sure that is what the dealer book says also. I was happy to see this because I could take my Thomson Masterpiece off my 2011 epic expert evo and use that. However, I've also been seeing specs for other 2015 Epic's (Sworks) and it says it's still the 27.2.

    Can you confirm what size it actually is. Seems like it would stay exactly the same as 2014 (27.2) but what do I know.

    Thanks
    Pretty sure that it's 27.2. I'll confirm tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    you do know the s-works seat post is 270g?
    but i have the same post stunning and the phenom pro saddle i love it wish i could afford the x01 and carbon rovals non sl
    great bike
    I think 270gm is not the weight of the 27.2 diameter but the 30.9 one. I agree that was a pig!

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    It's a 27.2mm post.

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    Thanks for confirming that seatpost size. It is what I was suspecting after seeing other models listed with 27.2. Typo on Specialized part. Its funny that I posted on this today as my shop just called me today and said they have both colors in the Specialized warehouse. I ended up chosing the black one. Should be ready to go by the end of next week.

    Now I'm debating what to do about wheelsets. On my current 2011 Epic Expert Evo R, I'm running the older model (red and black with the red spokes) version Control SL. That wheelset claims a 1450 gram weight and the Carbon Control that comes stock on the Epic WC is at 1580 grams.

    I'm selling my 2011 and will sell that bike with the stock wheels (aluminum). Should I sell both carbon wheelsets and get the newer control sl's. The weight on those is listed at 1370. The advantage I see over my current Control Sl's is the weight, about 100 grams. Second is the apparent increase in strength due to no bead hook. Also I believe the internal rim width is 1 mm wider. Up to 22 with the new set.

    If anyone is interested in either set or my 2011 bike, let me know!

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    2015 Epic Expert World Cup

    The only thing to consider with the older 2011 Roval Control SL wheels is whether you have the 15mm thru axle end caps to fit them on the new bike. Apart from that I'd keep them if they're in good condition. You can fit a XD driver body to the rear hub for using a XX1 cassette.

    The 27.2mm diameter seatpost that I really like the look of is the new Cannondale Save 2 seatpost that comes on the 2015 Cannondale F-Si bikes.

    It's basically a Thomson Elite layback seatpost with a secure 2 bolt head but made from carbon fibre with built in flex. It looks awesome.

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    Fortunately I do have the 15mm end caps for my current wheelset.

    Does anyone know if the driver body for the new wheelset will be compatable for my older control sl rear hub. Both are DT hubs.

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    If it's a 142x12mm Roval rear wheel (standard retail version) then you can just fit the DT Swiss XD driver body and endcap.

    If it's a 142+ rear hub (Specialized version for their own frames) you'd want to get a 142+ endcap to keep the spacing correct. Probably easiest to have your LBS order an 142+ endcap and XD driver body from Specialized. See picture of the 142+ endcap here:

    XX1 on a 142+ rear hub - which cassette body?

    If you are thinking of doing XX1 on a 142+...

    There was a really detailed forum thread on here a few months ago about this. Found it.

    XX1 142+ free hub body

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    Quote Originally Posted by stully05 View Post
    Thanks for confirming that seatpost size. It is what I was suspecting after seeing other models listed with 27.2. Typo on Specialized part. Its funny that I posted on this today as my shop just called me today and said they have both colors in the Specialized warehouse. I ended up chosing the black one. Should be ready to go by the end of next week.

    Now I'm debating what to do about wheelsets. On my current 2011 Epic Expert Evo R, I'm running the older model (red and black with the red spokes) version Control SL. That wheelset claims a 1450 gram weight and the Carbon Control that comes stock on the Epic WC is at 1580 grams.

    I'm selling my 2011 and will sell that bike with the stock wheels (aluminum). Should I sell both carbon wheelsets and get the newer control sl's. The weight on those is listed at 1370. The advantage I see over my current Control Sl's is the weight, about 100 grams. Second is the apparent increase in strength due to no bead hook. Also I believe the internal rim width is 1 mm wider. Up to 22 with the new set.

    If anyone is interested in either set or my 2011 bike, let me know!
    I had the same thoughts as you and decided to stick with the 2013 Roval Control SLs I owned. They are strong and wide enough and in my case ready for the 15 thru-axle.

    The latest hook-less bead innovation is solid but I've never had any issues with the prior model either, great wheelset!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PekkaS-works View Post
    you do know the s-works seat post is 270g?
    but i have the same post stunning and the phenom pro saddle i love it wish i could afford the x01 and carbon rovals non sl
    great bike
    weight on my 2014 S-Works was 225 g; switched it to a lightger one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    The 2015 orange beast below is now waiting in the store to be custom built with s-works parts. I've been dying to experience the Epic World Cup geometry. Just 2 days until she's ready to ride.

    Once finished this will be the spec:

    S-Works Carbon Bar
    Syntace -16 degree 90mm stem
    S-Works Seatpost
    Selle Italia Superflow
    2013 S-Works Crank w' 34 Wolftooth ring
    XTR Race brakes
    Roval Control SL
    2013 Rockshox SID World Cup w Brain, Carbon steerer
    XTR pedals
    ESI Chunky grips
    The X01 shifting will stay as is.

    I'll post the weight once it's all build up, I pick it up on Friday. I'm deciding between running Fast Traks, the 2.3" Renegades, or Schwalbe rubber...

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    Nice build. Regarding tires, I suggest you consider a 2.1 Ground Control up front and a 2.0 Fast Trak in back. I have recently gone to that combo and love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EPICYZ View Post
    Nice build. Regarding tires, I suggest you consider a 2.1 Ground Control up front and a 2.0 Fast Trak in back. I have recently gone to that combo and love it.
    Thanks mate. I think I might give them a go, especially given it's winter in Melbourne and that the GC will do better on our wet trails.

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    You're going to love it. Just put my thoughts on the WC review thread. Great colour too.

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    New pics and weight in the OP.

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    It's a nice bike but that indoor picture is a bit blurry.

    Did you swap the decals across from the stock fork that came with the bike onto your 2013 fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    It's a nice bike but that indoor picture is a bit blurry.

    Did you swap the decals across from the stock fork that came with the bike onto your 2013 fork?
    Sorry about the crappy pic. Promise to post better. With the forks we just swapped the lowers. I'd converted my 2013 sworks to 15mm so it was plug and play!

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    My bike arrived at the shop on Friday. Will take her home in the next couple days. For those of you who rode an older version epic and now a wc version, is it really a noticeable difference or are you running worn out suspension bits on your old bike. I bring this up because I just had my front and rear brain serviced about one week ago. What a huge difference. My 2011 epic expert evo feels unbelievable again. Now I'm wondering if the 2015 wc will be noticeably different?
    I'm happy to get the new bike and there are a few reasons why I got it, but when people say their new wc version is so great, I'm wondering if they are coming from a bike that needed suspension rebuilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stully05 View Post
    My bike arrived at the shop on Friday. Will take her home in the next couple days. For those of you who rode an older version epic and now a wc version, is it really a noticeable difference or are you running worn out suspension bits on your old bike. I bring this up because I just had my front and rear brain serviced about one week ago. What a huge difference. My 2011 epic expert evo feels unbelievable again. Now I'm wondering if the 2015 wc will be noticeably different?
    I'm happy to get the new bike and there are a few reasons why I got it, but when people say their new wc version is so great, I'm wondering if they are coming from a bike that needed suspension rebuilds.
    The suspesnion is completely different. The Brain has new internals, the suspension has different dampening characteristics and the hurst link, chain/seat stays all have different geometry which changes the leverage ratio in the shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkinho View Post
    weight on my 2014 S-Works was 225 g; switched it to a lightger one!
    Can I ask what post you went for and what it weighs. I needs seatpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stully05 View Post
    My bike arrived at the shop on Friday. Will take her home in the next couple days. For those of you who rode an older version epic and now a wc version, is it really a noticeable difference or are you running worn out suspension bits on your old bike. I bring this up because I just had my front and rear brain serviced about one week ago. What a huge difference. My 2011 epic expert evo feels unbelievable again. Now I'm wondering if the 2015 wc will be noticeably different?
    I'm happy to get the new bike and there are a few reasons why I got it, but when people say their new wc version is so great, I'm wondering if they are coming from a bike that needed suspension rebuilds.
    Well I've had a couple of short rides now and I can tell you that the geometry changes to the frame are felt as much if not more than the changes to the damping. The suspension changes are very impressive. I can pretty much run the bike 100% locked out all the time now ( F & B), which I couldn't before as the front would bounce all over the place. So yes, the suspension is different.

    The turn-in is magnificently sharp and together with how much easier it is to lift the front the bike becomes razor sharp. It's so much more "flickable" than the 2013 Epic I had and handling wise is the dually I've been praying for. Less trail bike and 100% race bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N View Post
    Can I ask what post you went for and what it weighs. I needs seatpost.
    Pete, If I did not already own the S-Works post I'd invest in a Syntace or a new Cannondale Save post. Both are supremely comfortable, and light enough. Forget the 20 or 30 grams you'd save with a weight weenie job and go for something that your butt will be thanking you for.

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    I've got a Ritchey WCS Flexlogic seatpost on my Epic (30.9mm diameter). For comfort by taking out trail buzz it works well.

    It also has some layback and the two bolt mounting has been secure without the saddle slipping.

    http://ritcheylogic.com/road/seatpos...-seatpost.html

    You can get the same Ritchey WCS Flexlogic seatpost in a 27.2mm diameter also, which would fit your Epic WC frame. That would be my recommendation.

    Edit: Although you can get the 30.9mm diameter post in 400mm length in 27.2mm diameter you can only get 300mm or 350mm lengths. The 350mm length may be a bit short for an Epic WC frame.

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    To get the recommended 100mm in the frame I need a post of 360mm but may just get away with a 350mm. If only a Thomson Masterpiece, which I have used for a few years, came long enough in a 27.2 but it doesn't. It also needs to accept carbon rails. I might try and track down an S Works one and tune it a little although the Save looks to be a decent option. If I got proper weight weenie it might be the KCNC pro lite

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    The 2015 orange beast below is now waiting in the store to be custom built with s-works parts. I've been dying to experience the Epic World Cup geometry. Just 2 days until she's ready to ride.
    Nice looking bike! Congrats. I am thinking of getting the same bike, but am not sure if I should go WC or not. I am coming from a 26 hardtail, so I guess a WC, being more aggressive than non-WC, will not make that much of a difference to me, since I guess that a 26 hardtail is aggressive already, all other things being equal?

    BTW, what size is your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    Nice looking bike! Congrats. I am thinking of getting the same bike, but am not sure if I should go WC or not. I am coming from a 26 hardtail, so I guess a WC, being more aggressive than non-WC, will not make that much of a difference to me, since I guess that a 26 hardtail is aggressive already, all other things being equal?

    BTW, what size is your bike?
    Thanks mate. My bike is a medium, and I'm 176cm tall.

    I think the jump from a 26" to a 29" dually is a large one. I'd certainly consider the transition to the WC geometry as the easier one for you. The standard 29" Epic has always felt a little neutral in its handling. The WC is a much livelier steer. this is my 3rd Epic 29 btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N View Post
    To get the recommended 100mm in the frame I need a post of 360mm but may just get away with a 350mm. If only a Thomson Masterpiece, which I have used for a few years, came long enough in a 27.2 but it doesn't. It also needs to accept carbon rails. I might try and track down an S Works one and tune it a little although the Save looks to be a decent option. If I got proper weight weenie it might be the KCNC pro lite
    The Niner RDO seatpost with built in flex comes in a 27.2mm x 400mm length, claimed weight is 210-220g. They're about £190 GBP in the UK and should be a reasonable option.

    http://www.ninerbikes.com/rdoseatpost

    If you're going "proper weight weenie" then a Schmolke TLO seatpost is available in a 27.2mm x 400mm length, claimed weight is 99g. They're €460 Euro / £366.36 GBP at today's exchange rate. As you'd be buying from Germany there's no import duty.

    "Just like all other products of our TLO range our seatpost is manufactured to suit your weight and riding style using the best prepregs available in the market. Its head clamps the saddle’s rails on eight points. The alloy parts have chamfered edges, which, together with the large supporting carbon fibre surface, ensures that even fragile carbon rails are not unduly stressed. The 5 mm Ti6Al4V titanium screws are waisted extension bolts, strong enough for mountain bike use even." Schmolke

    http://www.schmolke-carbon.com/carbo...ls/stuetlo.php

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    ^Love the Niner post. I'd love a tangerine Rdo cockpit on my steed.

    The Schmolke price made me recoil in horror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    Thanks mate. My bike is a medium, and I'm 176cm tall.

    I think the jump from a 26" to a 29" dually is a large one. I'd certainly consider the transition to the WC geometry as the easier one for you. The standard 29" Epic has always felt a little neutral in its handling. The WC is a much livelier steer. this is my 3rd Epic 29 btw.
    Thanks for the advice. Talked with my LBS yesterday and he advised me to go with the non-WC, the WC being too aggressive and uncomfortable. So I think I will go with the non-WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Talked with my LBS yesterday and he advised me to go with the non-WC, the WC being too aggressive and uncomfortable. So I think I will go with the non-WC.
    I wish you had a chance to ride the WC. It would really put your mind at ease. there's nothing uncomfortable about it. It's a lively steer, that's all. For riders that enjoy that character it's a blessing. Now that I've ridden a WC I'd never go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Talked with my LBS yesterday and he advised me to go with the non-WC, the WC being too aggressive and uncomfortable. So I think I will go with the non-WC.
    I call BS on your LBS. The WC is not agressive!. Does it handle better? Yes. Is the suspension too firm or harsh? No. People that call the WC aggressive haven't ridden it. I would call the non-WC and pre-2014 Epics "safe" in terms of handling. The WC geometry just makes it feel more like at '26. Do yourself a favor and ride a WC before you place your order. You will not be disappointed. There is ZERO downside to the WC and LOTS of upside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EPICYZ View Post
    I call BS on your LBS. The WC is not agressive!. Does it handle better? Yes. Is the suspension too firm or harsh? No. People that call the WC aggressive haven't ridden it. I would call the non-WC and pre-2014 Epics "safe" in terms of handling. The WC geometry just makes it feel more like at '26. Do yourself a favor and ride a WC before you place your order. You will not be disappointed. There is ZERO downside to the WC and LOTS of upside.
    Thanks both jathanas and EPICYZ.

    Since it's a small LBS, I don't think I can testride a WC. And he hasn't offered me a testride either (when he gets the new 2015 models).

    Only downside for the new WC, is that it only comes in white here in my country.

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    Get a Syntace P6 hiflex post to match your stem!

    It's the same post as the Niner RDO (syntace makes them for Niner), but with a better cradle. Weight is excellent considering it's 400mm. You can cut it down a touch if you want to save some weight.

    Otherwise, Enve is also an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Talked with my LBS yesterday and he advised me to go with the non-WC, the WC being too aggressive and uncomfortable. So I think I will go with the non-WC.
    There are a few threads of rider reviews of the Epic WC on here, all positive, including over longer endurance race distances. Eg:

    2014 Epic World Cup version reviews

    2014 EPIC WC Reviews

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    I couldn't agree more with the last few posts about the WC. Besides the sharper handling, my SW WC is (by a wide margin) more comfortable than my 12 SW Epic. After riding the WC all summer, when I took the 12 SW out it felt a bit like a Greyhound, and I am not talking about the dog. Come winter, all I will ride is the 12. I'll be hoping for a dry spring to get back on the WC. The WC is a fantastic bike.

    I'd also put a plug in for the Suntace P6 Hi-flex, especially if you are using a carbon rail saddle. The lower cradle is super long for great rail support.
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    Down-under it is easy to get a discount on a standard Epic, not so much on a WC... I know for a fact that Specialized got their forecasts wrong with the WC.

    The demand exceeded supply, so they ran out of stock in Australia. That led many retail "experts" to declaring the World Cup as aggressive and twitchy in order to sell the bikes they actually had in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    There are a few threads of rider reviews of the Epic WC on here, all positive, including over longer endurance race distances. Eg:
    Thanks WR304. I had already read the second link, but hadn't seen the first one.

    Most seem to prefer the WC version. What would be really interesting was to hear from riders who'd ridden both from models from the same year. I don't think it's easy to compare a newer WC with an older non-WC.

    But riders seems to indicate that they are enthused with the WC, and that no one seems to have regretted their buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    Down-under it is easy to get a discount on a standard Epic, not so much on a WC... I know for a fact that Specialized got their forecasts wrong with the WC.

    The demand exceeded supply, so they ran out of stock in Australia. That led many retail "experts" to declaring the World Cup as aggressive and twitchy in order to sell the bikes they actually had in stock.
    I have also suspected my LBS about this. I think my LBS being used to a non-WC model, when going on the WC, the WC is more 'alive', harder to control, more uncomfortable, etc. But I am coming from a 26" cheap hardtail (1500 dollars, three years old), so I think I could do well on the WC. I have also only ridden for 3 years, so maybe I am not technically skilled enough for the WC version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    I have also suspected my LBS about this. I think my LBS being used to a non-WC model, when going on the WC, the WC is more 'alive', harder to control, more uncomfortable, etc. But I am coming from a 26" cheap hardtail (1500 dollars, three years old), so I think I could do well on the WC. I have also only ridden for 3 years, so maybe I am not technically skilled enough for the WC version.
    You don't have to be anymore or less skilled to ride the WC. Think of it this way....moving to a 29er from a 26 there is a big difference in feel. Some of the difference is good (how 29ers get through roots and rock gardens, how they maintain momentom, etc.). Some of the difference in feel is not so good (like how much slower the turning feel is, how the turning radius in wider, etc.).
    The WC simply will not feel as different as your 26 because it will react and steer more like your 26 while delivering the benefits of the a 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prutten View Post
    ... I don't think it's easy to compare a newer WC with an older non-WC.

    ....
    The current non WC has exactly the same geometry and wheelbase as the previous Epic 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    The current non WC has exactly the same geometry and wheelbase as the previous Epic 29er.
    Sweet! I get more and more convinced about the WC

    My LBS has some friends from whom I can try their WC versions. So thats good news. And I can borrow a non-WC from one of my collegues, so now I can at least make my own judgement of the two geometries.

    Thanks again for all the good advice, jathanas and EPICYZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    Down-under it is easy to get a discount on a standard Epic, not so much on a WC... I know for a fact that Specialized got their forecasts wrong with the WC.
    Seems like the opposite in the US. When I went to warranty my frame they only had one option in the standard carbon frames but had every color S-works WC in Large to offer me.

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    Custom 2015 Epic Expert World Cup (EDIT: Now Weighed w' Pics)

    Quote Originally Posted by tommyturbo View Post
    I'd also put a plug in for the Syntace P6 Hi-flex, especially if you are using a carbon rail saddle. The lower cradle is super long for great rail support.
    When I last looked into getting a Syntace P6 Hiflex seatpost (a couple of years ago when they first came out) Syntace didn't have a UK distributor and the P6 Hiflex seatposts themselves were nowhere to be bought.

    That seems to have changed now. You can buy them from Wiggle in the UK. £195 GBP with free postage, although the 27.2x400mm length isn't listed.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/syntace-p6-c...flex-seatpost/

    The 27.2x400mm length of the P6 Hiflex is in stock and available at Bike24.com. €218 Euro / £172 GBP which isn't a bad price. Shipping to the UK from Germany is €5.95 Euro / £4.71 GBP.

    http://www.bike24.com/p222147.html

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    I've got a week on my 2015 Expert World Cup (I'm in the US by the way). It's a great bike. Noticeably stiffer - hard to tell if thats from the better rear suspension or the big carbon chain stays - but it feels good. What others are saying about being able to get your front wheel up is true. Much easier to get over obstacles - both at low speed and at high speed. Compared to my 2011 Expert Evo I'm able to truly bunny hop and get the back wheel up and over more obstacles. Probably a combination of better suspension and shorter chainstays.
    Turning in to corners is quicker as well. Seems like its more eager to dive - and not in a bad way at all. Up hill tight switchbacks is much easier as well.
    My size large, egg beater 11's, Thomson x4 stem, Thomson Elite seatpost, Phenom Pro carbon saddle, S Works carbon bar from my 2011 bike, ergon grips, Roval Control SL wheelset with sworks renegade rear and fast trak 2.0 front, both tubeless comes in at 23.5 pounds. About 1 pound lighter than my 2011 expert.
    Overall very happy and will see how I do this weekend at my next race.

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    Thanks for the update. Sounds like a perfect match for you. And the weight is impressively low.

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    This thread is great! I have the same bike as the OP coming in the mail.
    I LOVE the orange and i'm pumped to build it up and get out on the trail with the new WC geo. I'm coming off of a 2013 Epic Comp Carbon, built up to be 25 lbs on the dot.
    I'm more excited that all the hype about these has not died down at all. Tere continue to be more and more rave reviews!

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    I had a 2012 S-works (non WC obviously) and didn't like it. Too long of chainstays for my liking.

    I really like my 2014 WC S-works though. Great bike. The suspension isn't hash at all. I am running a Fox F29 Terralogic fork on it though, as I'm not a fan of the SID Brain forks. Nice thing is that Fox forks are 5mm shorter in AC length than a SID, so the geometry is completely unchanged

    I am considering pick up a 120mm fork for it when I travel out west just for play mode.

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    I've ridden both the WC and Non WC.. I do endurance races and after four hours on each bike the only difference I could tell you is that the WC climbs like a mtn goat and is so much easier to handle on the technical stuff.. I went with the WC and am so pleased with my decision..

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    Just got mine in yesterday! The color is GORGEOUS!
    And this bike just begs to be pushed. I'm so pumped about my purchase.
    If you're on the fence about this bike, JUST BUY IT! Holy cow.

    Here she is:
    2015 Epic expert WC
    Sworks phenom saddle, Easton EC 70 zero setback seatpost, Easton EC70 flat carbon handlebar.
    that's all for now.
    After the first ride though, I am going to be getting a raceface direct mount 34 tooth chainring, the 32 tooth is just a tad too small for my tastes.
    Custom 2015 Epic Expert World Cup (EDIT: Now Weighed w' Pics)-img_7397.jpgCustom 2015 Epic Expert World Cup (EDIT: Now Weighed w' Pics)-img_7401.jpg

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    11.5kg all told minus mini SWAT tool, first ride now... can't wait
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    i have a 13 Epic Comp Al and i LOVE it but i cracked the rear chainstay so i started to look at the 15's and saw the Elite M5 WC and im thinking about going that route. i do about 4-5 races a year and ride 3-5 times a week. will this bike be a great everyday ride or should i just get the non-WC version? my trails have no rocks or drops just xc singletrack.

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    dont know the model you are talking about.. can you post a link? in the region i am in they only over the WC in carbon (alloy seat stays)

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadsword2012 View Post
    dont know the model you are talking about.. can you post a link? in the region i am in they only over the WC in carbon (alloy seat stays)
    Specialized Bicycle Components

    But not available in NZ

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    it'll be a great everyday ride

    all the talk of them being hard nosed racing machines is bull

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    The world cup geometry is awesome. If somebody says it is "too aggressive" They don't know what they're talking about. I am on a world cup now from my 2013 epic comp carbon. It handles better, it's lighter... if that's what they mean by more aggressive, they need a dictionary. The positioning really isn't much different at all.
    It's a great improvement! The improvements are small, but for me, I just notice them more and more each time i ride. It's great!

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    In two weeks I will be building a 2015 S-Works Epic WC S-Build module
    It is the Gallardo Orange one with the RS-1 brain fork and Roval SL torque tube wheelset
    It will be the sickest bike on the planet
    I have Tune Hyperbars and Hyperstem ,Hyper grips and Tune Kill Hill brakeset with Ashima AI2 rotors
    1.95 S-Works Renegade rear, 2.0 S-Works Fast Trak front, 2013 S-Works Toupe saddle, S-Works Fact carbon crankset with Carbon-Ti X-Monosync DM 28t chainring, Sram XX1
    Should be sub 20 lbs
    I will keep you posted

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    Broadsword2012,

    Looks great, are those the stock wheel's that come with the bike?

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    Ride a WC2014 great bike, previus was Cannondale Scalpel, but this is a big step up..
    Bought my WC2014 in fall 2013.
    I have a question, know this is not the correct threat, but I read you all have great knowledge, so I post it here and hope you can help.
    So, bought it in 2013 and just brought my fork to my lbs for service. Got it back and the brain is total different, more sag and when riding standing on the pedals, the fork is not as ridgit as itwas before, my fork before service was real ridgit with some sag. Think my fork was not serviced, but got a already serviced fork back
    Heard that the 2013 brain is harder then the 2014 and now after service I got a 2014 brain. I dont know how to check this and hope you can help with my questions.
    A- how can I check - or my lbs check - what year the brain is from
    B - what can I do to get the fork harder.
    Thanks for your help and apologies for my bad English, not my native language.
    Jan
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    I have the 2015 in that awesome orange. Changed the bar to a 30 deg Renthral carbon and a carbon stem that is a touch shorter. I also switched to the Maxxis Ignitor tires because the tires that came with it are really aimed at speed and race. I don't think I saved much weight but it is incredibly dialed in for me. I upgraded from a 2010 specialized Epic 26 that weighed about 26 lbs. My 2015 weights around 24.5 as a 29er.

    Bottom line is that this is an absolutely incredible bike. Rock solid, great looking and handles wonderfully.

    Bottom line is that the bike is completely awesome. I swapped out the tire

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