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    Chain retention w/ removing bash and dangler. SJ fsr

    I have a 13 fsr comp. hate the noise the dangler makes while pedaling and never really need the bash. So I plan to remove them for a quiter drivetrain and weight loss. Anybody else remove theses parts? And is your chain retention still good?

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    You'll still need to keep the chain tight if you remove the tensioner. Look into a WolfTooth chainring. I assume you have a X9 type 2 RD on your bike.

    I use a WolfTooth and SRAM X9 type 2 RD on my Anthem and haven't had a drop yet after 150miles.

    The 22T on my Stumpy is staying put as I need it for climbs.
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    I do have a type 2 RD, i just feel like the dangler is an add-on. I didnt have any issues without it when I had my camber. Also was wondering if the bash ring actually aids in chain retention.

    Soon enough I'll be switching to 1x10 but just curious with this issue for now.

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    I know a lot have people who have removed the dangler with no issues. Not really needed with the type 2 RD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardmoregeorge View Post
    I do have a type 2 RD, i just feel like the dangler is an add-on. I didnt have any issues without it when I had my camber. Also was wondering if the bash ring actually aids in chain retention.

    Soon enough I'll be switching to 1x10 but just curious with this issue for now.
    Let me know if you want to sell the dangler set up.

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    You tend to lose the chain off the top of the big ring without the bash guard. My wife doesn't run the dangler on her 29 fsr stumpy and has no issues.

    I had mine off of my evo for a while but went back with it after some other issues.

    You can't really shorten the chain anymore than it already is with the dangler. These new clutch derailers just can't take up the chain growth/shrink like the non-clutch did. You wont be able to run the granny with anything lower than maybe the fourth gear down in the cassette. No big deal but it bothers me.
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    Funny you mention that. Just changed my wheelset last night and went adjust my rear mech. Running through all the gears and realized the lowest gears aren't possible. Oh well. I never use the lowest 3 anyway, and plan on x01 in the future.

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    Chain retention w/ removing bash and dangler. SJ fsr

    Quote Originally Posted by ardmoregeorge View Post
    I do have a type 2 RD, i just feel like the dangler is an add-on. I didnt have any issues without it when I had my camber. Also was wondering if the bash ring actually aids in chain retention.

    Soon enough I'll be switching to 1x10 but just curious with this issue for now.
    I know this thread is a little dated and I'm on a different bike with a similar situation. I just removed my bash from my 2013 Camber Comp Carbon and I now notice that Specialized doesn't even use bashes in any 2X Camber bike. It looks like they're supplanting a chain guide in favor of a bash guard, which no doubt works well and costs less. I removed my bash today and now I'm thinking that half of its purpose on this bike was chain retention. I haven't ridden it yet configured this way but hopefully I'll have this scenario vetted tomorrow. Nothing is keeping the chain tight right now except for a Deore XT Shadow Plus R/D. Anyway. I'll report back if things don't work out but my guess is that the oem bash ring also serves as chain retention. My big ring looks naked right now and the F/D seems high.

    Chain retention w/ removing bash and dangler. SJ fsr-imag0789.jpg

    UPDATE: Upon further inspection, the F/D is positioned what looks to be comparable in pictures of other Cambers and looks fairly normal in the little ring. Anyway, after many miles of bumpy hard riding the chain never once came off the outside of the chainring. I futzed with the barrel adjusters (and shouldn't have) and now the shifting is a little sloppy. Bottom line is I don't think the bash is all that necessary if you don't ride in an area that requires one. 60g saved and a much cleaner outer chainring.
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