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    Calling all 2011 Stumpy HT 29ers....

    Hi,

    I'm busting a gut waiting for my Stumpjumper S-Works 29er HT to arrive. Has anybody received theirs or any other 2011 HT yet? I'm looking for photos to relieve my new bike cravings!

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    The wait is brutal...

    My LBS thought only a couple more weeks until I see my 29er S-works HT frameset. I hope he is right but i'm not holding my breath!

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    I ordered back in September, and was originally told around New Year's for delivery.

    Patiently waiting for 2011 S-Works HT 29, also; afraid to ask my shop for an update because I don't want to hear "March".

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    The dates have been getting pushed back. If you were lucky to get in the first shipment, last I heard was Feb. Here's to hoping! I've got a green frameset on order. I'll jump ship and get a regular red/white one if those come in first though.

    My wife's red/white 26" S-works HT did show up a while back.... a bit early even. So maybe we will all get lucky too.

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    Feb for my frameset.

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    Just before Christmas my bike shop said I could expect my frameset late Jan early Feb.

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    I'm still distracted by winter sports so my frameset's arrival isn't driving me mad...yet!

    I'm using time and money to cache the parts required for my build in the corner of my small shop. I have another thread detailing that build, how are you building yours?

    Mine will have a 1x10 (38T by 11-36) transmission. The remaining components will fall into place.

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    The online dealer site lists a couple dozen 2010 19" HT complete bikes coming in early Feb. The 2011 framesets and bikes are all over the calendar depending on size and color. Some framesets are listed as early as the beginning of March to the as late as June. Most of the complete bikes are listed as early March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty_mtb
    The online dealer site lists a couple dozen 2010 19" HT complete bikes coming in early Feb. The 2011 framesets and bikes are all over the calendar depending on size and color. Some framesets are listed as early as the beginning of March to the as late as June. Most of the complete bikes are listed as early March.


    Is this reliable info? Specialized is still shipping 2010's?! I find that hard to believe...

    If it's true, which I doubt, then my 2011 complete bike may not be here until halfway through the race season?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilGasPasser


    Is this reliable info? Specialized is still shipping 2010's?! I find that hard to believe...

    If it's true, which I doubt, then my 2011 complete bike may not be here until halfway through the race season?!
    The best and most reliable answer is have your LBS that you ordered from log in and check.

    The 2010 was a mistake on my part. I looked quick on the dealer site for the status of the 2011 bikes and put down they were slated for early February but then went back and edited my post to 2010's and it should have read that the 2010 19" are in stock and they probably arrived long ago. Gotta quit multitasking.

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    Yea, they have a TON of 2010 19" completes. Obviously a huge mistake was made. At this point, you think the would have pulled them apart and used the XX groups for other bikes... maybe sold the frames off, or something.

    A couple months back they have like 40 of them in that size.

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    I don't know why they make as many as they do. THEY should build them on a 1:2 ratio, for every one purchased make two more for potential sales.

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    I just ordered my 19" tonight! I had a 2010 model that I hated to sell but wanted the carbon wheels and brain fork. IMO the 2010 is a much nicer looking bike, not that the 2011 us ugly, just liked the arched frame on the 2010.

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    Congrats on the order! What kind of delivery date "estimate" did you get?

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    Actually didn't get an eta. I will get one tomorrow as I had ordered a set of carbon wheels and forgot to cancel so need to give them a call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartyBiker
    How are you building yours?

    Mine will have a 1x10 (38T by 11-36) transmission. The remaining components will fall into place.

    S-Works cranks with XX rings. XTR 2x10 for remainder of the drivechain. Slowly building a stack of component boxes in the corner of the bedroom.

    Still got to decide on the wheels. Crest 29ers and ZTR hubs.

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    Had to ask.

    I'm a huge Spec fan and own several but I'm looking for any edge possible. For this season I was planning on this bike as my only race bike. However, has anyone considered the new Scott Scale carbon 29er? I have no experience on that bike but the reports are that it is a bit lighter and a bit more comfortable, well less harsh, to ride.

    I really wanted to ride one before I ordered but I don't think there is any chance of that. Can you tell me what you factored into your decision to go with the Stumpy?

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    Both the Scott and the Spesh are going to be brilliant bikes but I decided that I wouldn't notice much difference between them so ... this is going to sound really sad but I'll say it anyway!

    The decision came down the colour!!!

    (If you’ve finished laughing!)
    I've had two all black bikes in a row and the Scott didn't appeal, whereas I think the Spesh Flo Yellow is pretty darn cool.

    The other is the brand. I’ve been a fan of the Big S ever since my first Stumpy M2. I’ve had some nice bikes since but for the last 6 years I've missed that bike and I thought it was time to get reacquainted! Scott as a brand doesn't appeal to me in the same way - but that’s just me!

    So sorry no concrete performance enhancing reason for my choice! I’m buying the bike mainly with an aim of racing and the brain tells me the Scott may be the marginally better bike but I went with the heart on this one.

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    I really like the Scott but for me it was;

    loyalty to LBS
    carbon wheels
    brain fork

    in that order

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    I picked up my 19" 2011 Stumpy Evo on Tuesday, I only ordered it on New Years Eve so really lucked out with the devivery. Hopefully weather and visitors permitting, I can do a short ride this weekend, until then it's just sitting in the garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIUMPH KID
    I just ordered my 19" tonight! I had a 2010 model that I hated to sell but wanted the carbon wheels and brain fork. IMO the 2010 is a much nicer looking bike, not that the 2011 us ugly, just liked the arched frame on the 2010.

    Ok, stopped back at the shop today and canceled the S-Works order. I have been contemplating FS for a while now. I turn 44 tomorrow and decided its time to pamper myself a bit. So full susp it is, ordered an Epic Evo 29er. With the money saved I will be updating to the carbon wheels, XX cassette and maybe a few more bits.

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    I ride my 21" 2011 Stumpjumper Comp 29er since september 2010 ... got one of the first in europe

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    Can somebody explain me differences 2010-2011 model ?

    I h ave just received a lite used 2010 expert carbon ht frame 29er

    Started to build this morning...

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    There are a lot of changes.... the frames were totally redesigned. The head tubes are shorter and now use a standard tapered fork. The BB is PF30 instead of the previous OSBB. Thinner seatstays on the 2011 bikes, 27.2mm seat posts. The Expert and S-works bikes now come with Rebas that have Brain dampers installed.

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    I have tapered headset too in mine

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    Yes, but it is different. You need an adapter crown race to run a normal tapered for in the pre 2011 Spec frames. You can get that from specialized if you need one.

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    Not an S Works, but here is my 29er Comp HT. Bought in November.






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    Nice looking bike!
    How does it ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnr_seahorse
    Nice looking bike!
    How does it ride?
    Thanks, I am a much better rider because of that bike. She handles well, very fast and goes over obstacles like its nothing (this is my first 29er). This bike took the place of a 15 yr old Trek 6500 so my frame of reference is a bit off.

    Unfortunately I have been off the bike for a month due to a shoulder dislocation. Can't wait to get back out though.

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    Still waiting!
    Last time I heard (back in Nov) I was told the S-Works frames were due in end of January.
    Thats this week or next Monday!

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    I know the Single Speed frames got pushed back until April. I'm hoping to find out something regarding the regular HT frames today. The website still says march.... but that doesn't mean much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab
    I know the Single Speed frames got pushed back until April. I'm hoping to find out something regarding the regular HT frames today. The website still says march.... but that doesn't mean much.
    @ Briscoe: Do you have any info on the 29er SWorks complete bikes? I ordered back in September from my LBS, which happens to be a Specialized concept store. I've been pestering them for any info, but all they can/will tell me is that my large will be one of the earliest deliveries due to fact that they are a concept store, and that it is entered into the corporate inventory list as a sold bike (versus a bike that a shop will put on the floor hoping to sell). Apparently, those two things bump me up the priority list (along with an early order date), but what they can't tell me is when the first shipment of complete bikes is expected.

    If it's going to be April/May, I may need to enact plan B: Orbea USA has Alma's in stock and waiting to ship... My local race series kicks off in April with 3 races that month, and I was hoping to have some rides before then to get things dialed in (never had a "brain" before...)

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    Don't have any info on the Completes. But I do know the frames for the 29 S-works geared bikes got bumped back as well. I was told end of march, early april today for my frame. keep in mind that mine is also scheduled to be in the first shipment received in the states.

    I really wanted one of these bikes.... ordered it a LONG time ago. But, I think I'm going to have to switch to something else. Niner and Orbea have frames in stock and ready to go.

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    I order 1 in aug. 2010 in Eur.. Me LBS told me this week the bike will come for 100 % end off February.
    The have got many troubles whit the carbon 29er frames from 2011 (… that’s the reason that the so late). The told me that er are tech. problems with the frame design!!!!

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    I order 1 in aug. 2010 in Eur.. Me LBS told me this week the bike will come for 100 % end off February.
    The have got many troubles whit the carbon 29er frames from 2011 (… that’s the reason that the so late). The told me that er are tech. problems with the frame design!!!!

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    BTW.... The all have del. 1 in Eur. in okt 2010..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoezo
    I order 1 in aug. 2010 in Eur.. Me LBS told me this week the bike will come for 100 % end off February.
    The have got many troubles whit the carbon 29er frames from 2011 (… that’s the reason that the so late). The told me that er are tech. problems with the frame design!!!!
    Hmmm, would love some more details on the frame design problems... It may just be hearsay, but if there really is an inherent design issue, I may need to go elsewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoezo
    I order 1 in aug. 2010 in Eur.. Me LBS told me this week the bike will come for 100 % end off February.
    The have got many troubles whit the carbon 29er frames from 2011 (… that’s the reason that the so late). The told me that er are tech. problems with the frame design!!!!
    There have not been any problems with the 2011 frames. These bike are simply still being produced. If you would like the most accurate estimate for when they will be available, you will need to speak with your Specialized dealership. Availability will be dependent on when/if your dealership ordered their bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert@Specialized
    There have not been any problems with the 2011 frames. These bike are simply still being produced. If you would like the most accurate estimate for when they will be available, you will need to speak with your Specialized dealership. Availability will be dependent on when/if your dealership ordered their bikes...
    Thanks for responding, Robert.

    If you are able to provide the information, can you tell us how many S-Works 29er HT bikes/frames Specialized expects to sell in a given model year? I know that we are all participants in a 'fringe sport", and that we are talking about a high-end bike that doesn't sell in huge volumes. That said, do you guys sell 100 per year? 1000 per year? I'm just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilGasPasser
    Thanks for responding, Robert.

    If you are able to provide the information, can you tell us how many S-Works 29er HT bikes/frames Specialized expects to sell in a given model year? I know that we are all participants in a 'fringe sport", and that we are talking about a high-end bike that doesn't sell in huge volumes. That said, do you guys sell 100 per year? 1000 per year? I'm just curious...
    bump!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilGasPasser
    Thanks for responding, Robert.

    If you are able to provide the information, can you tell us how many S-Works 29er HT bikes/frames Specialized expects to sell in a given model year? I know that we are all participants in a 'fringe sport", and that we are talking about a high-end bike that doesn't sell in huge volumes. That said, do you guys sell 100 per year? 1000 per year? I'm just curious...

    The ultimate goal is to produce the exact amount of bikes that the market will purchase. This is the best way to keep a company healthy and producing good quality products. Getting the number spot on is nearly impossible of course. The exact numbers aren't something that I have access to or something that we put out there so I'm sorry but I can't even venture a guess. Just know that our intention is to keep everyone supplied and happy the best we possibly can.
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    That is a sweeeeeeet ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert@Specialized
    The ultimate goal is to produce the exact amount of bikes that the market will purchase. This is the best way to keep a company healthy and producing good quality products. Getting the number spot on is nearly impossible of course. The exact numbers aren't something that I have access to or something that we put out there so I'm sorry but I can't even venture a guess. Just know that our intention is to keep everyone supplied and happy the best we possibly can.
    Cool; thanks for responding, anyway. I suspected that you wouldn't be able to answer my question, corporate secrecy and all...

    I'm sure you understand that the griping and moaning in this thread isn't bashing the bike, or Specialized, at all. Rather, you have a bunch of guys (and girls?) with cabin fever, spinning away the winter in our garages and basements, and getting anxious that our equipment plans for the race season are going to fall through. At least, that's it from my perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilGasPasser
    Cool; thanks for responding, anyway. I suspected that you wouldn't be able to answer my question, corporate secrecy and all...

    I'm sure you understand that the griping and moaning in this thread isn't bashing the bike, or Specialized, at all. Rather, you have a bunch of guys (and girls?) with cabin fever, spinning away the winter in our garages and basements, and getting anxious that our equipment plans for the race season are going to fall through. At least, that's it from my perspective.
    You bet. Glad I could chime in. I totally understand where people are coming from. Having seen and ridden the bikes in person, I know how amazing they really are. I would be anxious to get my hands on one as well. We LOVE feedback, please don't hesitate to keep it coming... we want to offer the best products possible and everyone's feedback is crucial to our achieving that. Every comment counts!
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    Hi Robert,

    Thank you for posting.
    I realise you don’t mention dates as clearly you cannot know when each bike is going to be delivered to particular customers, as this is down to a number of variables.

    However, you mention that they are in production. Are you able to give us a hint as to when the first bikes/frames will be shipped to dealers?

    As LilGasPasser says it will help calm the cabin fever just to know the bikes are on the way!

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    As I mentioned earlier, it's going to be end of March/early April for the first shipment of frames to the USA. That came directly from Specialized when we checked on the frame I ordered last fall (in the first shipment coming to the USA).

    Maybe they'll show up early, but if they are actually being made right now (as Robert says) I highly doubt that. They would still have to be finished up, painted, shipped, pass through customs, and then distributed.

    I pulled the plug on mine when I heard about the April time frame. That's just too late for me. Racing will have started and I've got a riding trip planned for early April as well.

    I've tried for two years to get an S-works 29er and both times the dates got pushed back further and further on me. One of these years I'll be able to snag one! Next year I'm riding an Air9 Carbon instead. It should be here Friday! HA, never thought I'd be able to get a Niner before something from the Big S. Sucks.... I was really looking forward to the sweet Flow Yellow color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnr_seahorse
    Hi Robert,

    Thank you for posting.
    I realise you don’t mention dates as clearly you cannot know when each bike is going to be delivered to particular customers, as this is down to a number of variables.

    However, you mention that they are in production. Are you able to give us a hint as to when the first bikes/frames will be shipped to dealers?

    As LilGasPasser says it will help calm the cabin fever just to know the bikes are on the way!

    Sorry, but I do not have those dates either. The only dates are the ETA's given to the individual dealerships.
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    I have been waiting for months on the new carbon wheels, finally arrived today. Although I haven't ridden them yet, they are crazy light. I am real happy I held out for these instead of going with Stans. They are lighter as well as having the 28mm os front cups for stiffness. I was concerned with weight limitations as I am 190 lbs, Specialized gives them a 240-250 lb limit.

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    Santa Cruz Carbon Hardtail ?

    Might actually be here first.
    Seriously. Is there a problem with the design? How can a company get it so wrong?
    Last edited by gregskitchen; 01-27-2011 at 12:01 AM.

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    "Seriously. Is there a problem with the design? How can a company get it so wrong?"

    Specialized has a bunch of leftover 2010 models of this bike, common sense would tell me that building 2011 models would be lower priority compared to some other bikes in high demand. Like the nearly $10000 Epic S-works.

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    Quote from Specialized

    "The carbon hartail is the most sought after bike of the season. We have close to 400 on backorder."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregskitchen
    "The carbon hartail is the most sought after bike of the season. We have close to 400 on backorder."
    I don't know about that statement but I've been wrong before. Although they could mean every carbon hardtail in their lineup both 26" and 29".

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    I am just venting. I just want to ride!

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    I stopped by LBS for update on my S-works 29er HT frame. I was told that there was a production problem with frames and that my estimated delivery date has now moved to late March. A month ago my estimated delivery date was January 15th. Two months ago the estimated date was late December. I am starting to rethink this decision.

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    Getting nervous, I also asked my LBS to check up on the status for me. They called someone at the HQ in CA, and assured me mid-February, early March at the absolute latest. They seemed really confident, and I've no reason to doubt them.

    My bike should be part of the first shipment, but I have no idea how big that first shipment is. If you ordered yours more recently, you may want to follow up with your shop to see if they can give you an idea for shipment/delivery...

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    LilGasPasser are you waiting for a bike or a frame?

    I've asked my bike shop to check up on my frame, waiting to hear back!

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    I am waiting for a 2011 SWorks and my LBS says late Feb to early March. This was updated today and I have been waiting since August.
    I was told it is prety sure to come in then and it is worth the wait I'm sure.
    Pedal Dammit!

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    @ jnr seahorse:

    Complete bike, ordered back in September.

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    2010 Frame 2011 Parts

    I actually like the 2010 better.I know it's not as functional with that curved top tube but I dig It and the frame is stiff as hell.

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    I ordered my 2011 SJ 29er EVO in Nov. It came in a week later. BUT!!!!!!!, as I am overseas right now, I had to wait on my dad to go to the LBS and pick it up (Which took 3 weeks), then I had to wait on him to ship it, (another 3 weeks) and then I had to wait for it to get here, (another 2 weeks). ANyway, I finally got out on my first ride today and it was, in a word, AWESOME!!!!! I love this bike.

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    Has anyone got a s-works 29er yet?and i'm not talking about one from a specialized launch.I'm also waiting but am starting to think there must be a problem with the frame if the dates keep on getting pushed back.If specialized are trying to clear 2010 frames first that is absolutley stupid.April,you must be mad to think anyone will wait that long.April people are already looking at 2012 bikes.

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    Seat Stays

    I was reading that they really shrunk the diameter of the seat stays to make the frame more compliant If I had to take a guess this would be the problem. I know it is stupid to assume but ifI have to wate I need something to do.
    Why would you make a race bike more compliant anyways. I'll ride an fs if I want to ride all day.Props to Specialized for trying to make everyone happy but one bike is not going to do everything.
    Give me a 2010 frame with 2011 parts.

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    My LBS has suggested that the first frames might make it to the US for the end of February to early March. I've no idea how many or what sizes and colours these will be - or if mine will be included!

    If we do have to wait unitl April it will be only a few months before they'll be telling us about their 2012 range!!

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    I checked with my LBS and they said my frame should be in the first week of March.
    It could be as early as the end of Feb but probably March.
    I hope so. :-)
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    My wife just pu her 2011 SJHT 15" carbon yesterday. I thought her TT would be angled but it is straight. Looks nice. I am still waiting for mine.

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    The 29er Stumpy frameset should arrive in less than a month if our assumptions are correct.

    I'm still distracted with snowshoeing; XC skiing; trail running; and biking with studded tires. 100-miles a week between my four methods for commuting between work and home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velocycling
    My wife just pu her 2011 SJHT 15" carbon yesterday. I thought her TT would be angled but it is straight. Looks nice. I am still waiting for mine.

    My wife has the same size sworks ht too... Killer bike. She got the frame and fork, so she could get the red/white color.

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    Hoezo that is a sweet a$$ looking Bike there how is the ride, man thats the fork that iam putting on my epic yeah ridge in the front.
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    I asked the shop owner and he said the only issues he knew they were having at specialized was with the paint. we have two bikes, both 2011 tarmacs, that are going to get warrantied for paint issues
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    29ers? The Internet stocks?

    Same bubble, same psychology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakerdeal
    Same bubble, same psychology.
    2nd time i've herd that today (well 29ers) but I think for many areas and riders a 29er just makes more sense. I would not go bacl to 26, just too small lookin of a tire
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    I got to demo an Epic 29 for the weekend. My wife got her SJht on Tuesday. We did Mt. Tam yesterday and are planing on another 30 mile ride today. I have to say, I can not wait for the HT. The Epic is nice but I guess I am not a FS guy. It felt slightly mushy, even though I had the rear fairly stiff. But I was totally digging the 29er!! My wife does not read these forums and yet all of her comments are same and what ppl say 29er should be. Some may say 29er are marketing hype but she knows what she likes.

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    I don't know about getting it wrong. If you look at the number of carbon fiber mountain bikes, road bikes, hybrids etc they produce a ton of carbon bikes. I believe it when they tell us that nothing is wrong other than production obviously being stretched thin on the carbon front. I am sincerely hoping that they don't get pushed back again, and arrive a little earlier than expected.

    I am actually sending my GF Superfly SS that suffered minor seat stay damage during the 2009 race season to Calfee to ensure that I have a bike to train and race on for the start of the season. Either way the bikes are worth waiting for, I just wouldn't have sold my 2010 S-Works before I received my next one. Lesson learned and the parts pile continues to grow.

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    May?

    I was just told May. That will be a 7 month wait. Has anyone recieved a bike other than the 15" frame?

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    The 15" I mentioned is a 26". No one has an sworks other than a couple floating around from the dealer launch. Looks like these are going to be more of a 2012 bike! May is unbelivable, if accurate. I'm glad I canceled my order. Obviously someone else will just take my place, but delivery in April and May is totally unacceptable for bikes they took orders on last summer and fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregskitchen
    I was just told May. That will be a 7 month wait. Has anyone recieved a bike other than the 15" frame?
    Greg:
    When exactly did you order? I'm assuming October? Complete bike, or frame only? How reliable do you think the May estimate is?

    That's pretty sad, if Specialized delivers a bike tailored for racers, months into the race season (May is late, no matter what part of the country/world you are in), and months after it was initially marked for delivery...

    So, question to the group: When do you give up, and act on whatever your plan B is? I want to wait for the Stumpy, but I want to have some peace-of-mind even more. I'd rather my second-choice bike in my possession, than to keep hanging on for some piece of lust-worthy vapor ware that may not get here until 5 races into the season...

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    I already pulled the plug on the sworks and got a niner air9 carbon. Overall weight is about .75 lbs more thantje stumpy would have been. But mine is still just over 20lbs with gears and a sus fork. It's a sweet bike and I'm happy to have it.

    I've had to get something else 3 times when waiting on bikes from specialized over the years. Sadly, I pretty much plan on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilGasPasser
    Greg:

    So, question to the group: When do you give up, and act on whatever your plan B is? I want to wait for the Stumpy, but I want to have some peace-of-mind even more. I'd rather my second-choice bike in my possession, than to keep hanging on for some piece of lust-worthy vapor ware that may not get here until 5 races into the season...
    I say now. I mean it is almost the middle of February. Race season is just around the corner and for me I want a bike in my possession now instead of waiting for a bike while my race competitors are training and racing. Niner took alot of criticism for advertising the Air9 Carbon and not delivering but they are a small company compared to Specialized.
    If its me my order would be canceled and I would be on Plan B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregskitchen
    I was just told May. That will be a 7 month wait.
    There was a lot of feedback last week that we could expect frames to start arriving in the next couple of weeks.

    7 months back from May is December so I guess we may have ordered our frames a few months before you and you've missed the first batch?????

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    Specialized growing pains or just Clueless?

    Hey LGP

    I ordered a complete bike on Nov 1 2010. I do not think they will be shipping anything and all I have received from the company is arogance and people saying things that do not even make sence. I would like to hear sorry we f'd up and I would honestly be O.K.

    I know at the end of the year some dumb ass at Specialized is going to base next years production on this years sales. Witch will in turn make my now 2012 model impossible to get.

    In the sales meeting somewhere else in the company someone is going to be critisizing the sales force for not moving as many hardtail 29 ers as the competition. Having no Idea what was going on in the manufacturing side of the business.

    Mike Sinyard get your house in order.

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    Despite large forecasts for 29” bikes, the shift from 26” to 29” has been beyond our expectations. We are simply honored at the response from our riders and we apologize for the frustration. We are in a situation where demand exceeds current supply and we are doing everything we can to play catch up. We encourage your patience to wait for the best 29” technology on the market, you won’t regret the wait….
    Let us know how we can make your riding experience a better one. How may I help you?

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    Robert, while I appreciate your response and comments on this thread, they just don't hold water.

    I think a lot of us could understand the supply/demand thing, *IF* any of the 29er HT frames or bikes had been shipped. Since none have, this isn't about your supply being short. It's about having no supply.

    I know my local shop has had bikes on order since their Pre-season order last summer, with none of the 29er carbon HT bikes (expert or S-works) showing up. Those were pre-booked, guaranteed sales. So, Specialized knew how many were needed to be built. Many of those have now been lost, as customers simply aren't willing to wait indefinitely for a bike/frame. It doesn't help when the expected arrival dates keep getting pushed back further and further.

    Manufacturing delays or quality control problems happen for everyone. But, it sure would be nice to give straight, upfront, answers to your dealers and customers who have been waiting months on a product. Most people are understanding, but at the same time they don't like being jerked around either.

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    With all due respect to specialized it seems to me that just a few short years ago the big S was quoted as saying that 29ers are just a fad. Now that there is money to be made on them they realize 29er are here to stay. Maybe all of this delay is due to the fact that specialized doesn't quite have the 29er "fad" dialed in like say Fisher does since specialized was late to the 29er party.



    Quote Originally Posted by Robert@Specialized
    Despite large forecasts for 29” bikes, the shift from 26” to 29” has been beyond our expectations. We are simply honored at the response from our riders and we apologize for the frustration. We are in a situation where demand exceeds current supply and we are doing everything we can to play catch up. We encourage your patience to wait for the best 29” technology on the market, you won’t regret the wait….

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    Try the marketing BS on someone else.As said before the supply is zero,zilch nada."Best 29er technology",surly your bike should actually be on the market before you can make such an arrogant statement.It's crap like this that just upset customers.I'm with briscoelab on this one.Cancelling my order tomorrow and getting a niner.

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    With all due respect Robert, when will any S-works 29er bikes/framesets be delivered? My LBS cannot answer that question for me and why should they have to. I am not asking when my frame will arrive. I just want to know when any will start arriving. That is a question that only Specialized can answer.

    I do not see how the answer has anything to do with supply and demand since there is not any supply. Did Specialized think that the demand would be Zero and therefore are now building the bikes to meet the demand of "more than Zero"? I'm no economist but that is my understanding of supply and demand.

    Many of the bike shops have told customers that there is a production problem but you stated that there is no production problem. I think that as people are cancelling orders (I'm about to cancel mine), Specialized should come clean and give customers some information.

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    So by the time these actually arrive in stores you might as well say they are 2012 models.
    Quote Originally Posted by wolf-otm
    With all due respect Robert, when will any S-works 29er bikes/framesets be delivered? My LBS cannot answer that question for me and why should they have to. I am not asking when my frame will arrive. I just want to know when any will start arriving. That is a question that only Specialized can answer.

    I do not see how the answer has anything to do with supply and demand since there is not any supply. Did Specialized think that the demand would be Zero and therefore are now building the bikes to meet the demand of "more than Zero"? I'm no economist but that is my understanding of supply and demand.

    Many of the bike shops have told customers that there is a production problem but you stated that there is no production problem. I think that as people are cancelling orders (I'm about to cancel mine), Specialized should come clean and give customers some information.

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    Tired

    I do not know about anyone else but I was stupid enough to pay in full way back when.
    The poor bike shop now has to suffer for the lost sale. They are trying to get me to buy something else and it is straining our relationship. You would think the LBS would be a little upset with Specialized.

    Robert thanks for saying something, it just took a little to long. You folks need to do some damage control. You're cost on a jersey or tire for people who have waited since 10 is nothing compared to the damage to you're rep. My patiance can be bought and the people waiting for these bike are you're core customers.

    On a lighter note, I have a lot of Specialized merchandise up for sale.

    Good luck people
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    I fully understand Specialized position, I work for a manufacturing company and we deal with the same issues. The biggest Problem is our products aren't outdated every year. I have 3 concerns. #1 I have 3 S-Works models on order (2 frames and a full bike) and I haven't seen one. Every time I check on expected delivery it gets pushed back, and then there will be some hope that in a month I will get a bike, but then the next week it is pushed a few months. I am loosing hope and don't know when I'll see a bike
    #2 I need these bikes to race on, and when they are showing current delivery It is middle of the season and if it gets pushed back any more I won't have one during the season at all.
    #3 by the time I get a bike it will be right before (or maybe a few months) or right after the 2012's get released. Then it will be outdated and I'll have to hope to be able to replace my frames come the fall. This will be much harder as I will be married by that time.

    I think they should not change the graphics between 2011 & 2012 so that those that bought the 2011 wouldn't have bought an outdated bike. but I know that won't happen.

    Currently I don't have a MTB, I am borrowing one from the shop as I though mine would be available before MTB season.
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    I sold my race bike at the beginning of the year thinking I would have a new one in a few weeks.

    If I want to race this season I'm going to have to buy something else. Not sure how I would then stand with regards to the deposit put down on my new frame?

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    They would be required to give you your deposit back. They don't pay for the bike until it's actually had a PO made in the specialized system and ready to ship out. Don't let the shop tell you otherwise.

    Obviously the easiest thing would be for you to get something else the shop sells. Most any shop can order a Niner, even if they aren't an official dealer. The Scott carbon 29er is also a killer rig.

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    I just picked up the EVO-R last night at the my LBS...... If i only knew how to upload photos, i'd post a picture of it. Someone help?

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    my 2011 sj evo R 29. waiting on industryNINE ultralite wheels, so for now its got the flow wheelset (borrowed from my sj fsr expert). 22lbs with heavy wheels/tires. now if only i could get out and ride...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Calling all 2011 Stumpy HT 29ers....-180298_592332868526_50500124_33213624_2517975_n.jpg  


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    Quote Originally Posted by josephgrimes
    my 2011 sj evo R 29. waiting on industryNINE ultralite wheels, so for now its got the flow wheelset (borrowed from my sj fsr expert). 22lbs with heavy wheels/tires. now if only i could get out and ride...

    Wow, how did you get that and when did your order...size?

    I check the Specialized dealer site almost daily and today's availability is late April. It changes weekly.
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    it arrived last week - 17.5 - there were like 7 in open inventory when i ordered. i'd put it on itemwatch or whatever they call it... and log in 4+ times per day to check stock. i'm excited, almost ended up with a superfly elite instead, but i'm glad this bike worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephgrimes
    there were like 7 in open inventory when i ordered. i'd put it on itemwatch or whatever they call it... and log in 4+ times per day to check stock.
    Do you work in a shop? Is this something that Joe Public can check in on? Congrats on the bike, looks great!

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    LGP - i do work at a shop. unfortunately the public can't check inventory. thanks. i'm excited and hope to get out for a ride sunday.

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    fisher

    briscoelab is exactly right you can get your money back but if your shop has trek/fisher. The new Superfly also looks to be a very nice option.

    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab
    They would be required to give you your deposit back. They don't pay for the bike until it's actually had a PO made in the specialized system and ready to ship out. Don't let the shop tell you otherwise.

    Obviously the easiest thing would be for you to get something else the shop sells. Most any shop can order a Niner, even if they aren't an official dealer. The Scott carbon 29er is also a killer rig.

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    I got EVO-R from Bike Barn in Whitman, MA. I don't work in a shop, but i know they usually get bikes first because they are a huge dealer in this area.

    How do i upload photos here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Connolly
    I got EVO-R from Bike Barn in Whitman, MA. I don't work in a shop, but i know they usually get bikes first because they are a huge dealer in this area.

    How do i upload photos here?
    What size do you get/did they have?
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