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    Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber Expert Carbon EVO or Camber EVO?

    Anyone own one or gotten to ride one yet? Comparisons to the non-EVO Camber and StumpJumper FSR 29? I'm pretty interested in this bike. Looks like it could be a great trail bike.
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    i havent ridden one of the new evos, but i seriously have my eye on one.
    my only ride at the moment is an enduro that i have also used for xc races and i think the camber evo would be great for that as well as more mellow trail riding.
    the evo expert also has what i see as the perfect build spec too. maybe i will have one by next summer.
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    Good job! Camber Expert Carbon EVO

    Hi I have a Camber Expert Carbon EVO on order and I have to wait until 12 of Nov (which is the ETA into New Zealand)
    I'm looking forward to tuning it to work for me

    Pete

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    I know when I was looking a month or so back we were looking at October delivery in the west and November in the east....I'm still trying to unload my Epic and Stumpy FSR to fund the purchase of an Evo Expert, don't really need to sell as I enjoy both bikes, but itching for something new and wouldn't going back to one trail FS 29er and a 29er HT.

    The Camber Expert looks like a real nice bike as well and I'm very partial to the black/blue color, my only hold up on that bike is the carbon wheels, as I already have a set, so I may as well buy an EVO and put the carbon wheelset on the EVO...

    If anyone is looking for a nice Epic Expert Carbon or frame only color Stumpy FSR build, let me know or they are in the classifieds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Juicen View Post
    i havent ridden one of the new evos, but i seriously have my eye on one.
    Same here. Does anyone know if the Pike on the Camber Expert Carbon EVO can be extended beyond 120mm of travel? I'm curious if they just added a spacer to set travel at 120, or if 120 is all you can get out of it.

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    Has to be just a spacer as RS has always done in the past. Should be able to bump it to 150 if you wanted, I think 150 is the longest travel pike for 29" wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy View Post
    Same here. Does anyone know if the Pike on the Camber Expert Carbon EVO can be extended beyond 120mm of travel? I'm curious if they just added a spacer to set travel at 120, or if 120 is all you can get out of it.
    I'd also like to know. I'd like to bump up the travel in the fork to 130mm or 140mm, but don't necessarily need that much in the rear. I like the rear to be a bit firmer and responsive, but wouldn't mind a bit more squish up front.

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    Most of the new RS forks, including the pike, don't use the all-travel spacers to adjust travel anymore (2013 and newer). They now require a different air spring kit. The spring kits are available through RS distributors but retail pricing is ~$150. Still a lot cheaper than a new fork, but no longer free like with the all-travel spacer system.

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    erlau, thanks for the info

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    You mentioned that a new air spring kit can be purchased erlau. Would you be able to convert this Pike to a dual position air? Seems like it would be nice to be able to switch between long travel and standard on this bike. Thanks for any info

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    I would suspect that you could change to dual position air system but I am not positive that is the case. I'd give SRAM a call before you order a it.

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    So I emailed SRAM and here is their reply in case anyone else is interested:

    The travel of the new Pike Solo Air fork can be reduced internally by replacing the air shaft assembly. The minimum travel allowed on the new Pike fork is 120mm, max 160mm. For all spare parts, see our spare parts manual, found on the service portion of our website:

    http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/pG..._spc_rev_a.pdf

    It is not possible to convert this fork to Dual Air, as it is designed for Solo Air only.

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    It sounds like he didn't understand what you were asking. The "dual position air" is the external travel adjust system available on some pike models. "Dual air" is the air spring system that allowed rider to independently adjust positive and negative spring pressure on older forks (up to 2012).

    Most of the new forks, including the pike, use "solo air" spring assemblies but some models do use the "dual-position air" to adjust travel.

    Anyways, you should be able to look through the spare parts catalog and determine if solo air and dual position air pike use all of the same parts (with the exception of the air assembly). If that is the case it would be an easy conversion.

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    Anyone get one of these yet? I know they pushed delivery until October in the West and November in the East a couple months back from originally September.

    Has anyone touched based with a dealer lately on availability dates...

    Looks like the Stumpy HT's are being delayed, so not sure if these are as well...

    Really interested in a weight...
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    I am interested in weight and ride review as well. I did find this review that says 27lbs but not sure about details (size,pedals,etc?)

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    I think I've read all the introductory/first ride reports/reviews a few times over. I'm surprised no one has posted up that they have ordered one...

    I'm kind of back and forth between the EVO or buying the frame only Sworks, but I'd have to go with a different fork as they don't sell the 120 Pike off the shelf, and your not getting the slightly relaxed geo of the EVO, but I'm a fan off the all carbon frame/rear end, which would save almost 3/4 of a pound with the carbon rear and better carbon layup of the S works frame.

    Does anyone have an updated delivery time for the EVO/ S works bikes?
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    Glad you mentioned that. I did not realize that the evo did not have a carbon rear. My dealer was not sure but told me January for evo. They haves sworks cambers on the floor now.

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    January is ridiculous, when I orginally inquired back in August was told September in the West and October in the East...now the damn things aren't going to be here until January. Since I'm in FL, November-April is the time to ride, season is half over by then, may have to go the Stumpy EVO route, have seen a couple of them floating around already...
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    Good job! Ordered Camber Expert Carbon EVO

    Well I ordered an EVO back in September.
    The update ETA to me is this friday i'm just having to wait for it to come in the door.

    Have new Salsa Bend 2 on order to fit, Crank Boot's waiting (Race Face), and planning to change the front Chainring to a 30T.....

    1st Carbon Bike for me

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    PS: I do live in New Zealand


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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Well I ordered an EVO back in September.
    The update ETA to me is this friday i'm just having to wait for it to come in the door.

    Have new Salsa Bend 2 on order to fit, Crank Boot's waiting (Race Face), and planning to change the front Chainring to a 30T.....

    1st Carbon Bike for me

    Pete..

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    Good to see someone ordered one!! Hopefully you get your bike on time, not sure what the issue is with US deliveries. No way I want to wait until January when these bikes were released in August.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielM3 View Post
    Glad you mentioned that. I did not realize that the evo did not have a carbon rear. My dealer was not sure but told me January for evo. They haves sworks cambers on the floor now.
    Also saw in a few of the ride reports that the bike comes with carbon wheels, that does not seem to be the case, looks like 25mm wide aluminum Rovals.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm 2014 Camber Expert Carbon EVO

    Well after waiting for so long my new Camber Expert Carbon EVO turned up late wednesday afternoon.
    I stayed after work to build her up and ride her home, before dark.
    Tonight after a few adjustments I got to go for a 10 km test ride
    The most fun I have had in years, it just works as One and the ride is great.
    Thanks Big S

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Well after waiting for so long my new Camber Expert Carbon EVO turned up late wednesday afternoon.
    I stayed after work to build her up and ride her home, before dark.
    Tonight after a few adjustments I got to go for a 10 km test ride
    The most fun I have had in years, it just works as One and the ride is great.
    Thanks Big S

    Pete

    When you have some free time post up some pics and get a weight for us. Have you ridden any other prior Cambers to compare the new EVO to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ds33gt View Post
    When you have some free time post up some pics and get a weight for us. Have you ridden any other prior Cambers to compare the new EVO to?
    Hi Yes I have been riding a test Camber Comp (2014) when I have been waiting for my new Bike.

    With the Camber Comp I adjust the forks and shock over time But they every worked as One.

    My New Camber Expert Carbon EVO once the sag was set it just work's out of the box! As One!

    I have only changed a few things?
    Longer stem, 100mm
    Salsa Bend 2 23 degrees
    From SIP Grips to SIP XL Grips
    Crank (Raceface) Boot's
    Speedplay Frog Pedals! Because I have one leg shorter by 10mm and they are one of the few you can shim up.

    Weight 12.2KG's

    I'll post a few Photo's in the next few day's..

    Happy Cycling

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    Here She is

    Today in the Sun

    Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?-11021674765_bdbdfdf6c2_z.jpg

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    Hi Pete,

    What size is your bike? Those 12,2kg, are they clean or are pedals included?
    I ordered the same bike and I am expecting it early January here in the Netherlands, can't wait!
    One more question, how is the rear brake line guided, in or outside the tube? According to the manual, it should be able to accommodate it in the interiors, but I believe for some reason it is as a standard delivered with an outside guidance. Can you clarify?

    Cheers, Peter

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by iPjotr View Post
    Hi Pete,

    What size is your bike? Those 12,2kg, are they clean or are pedals included?
    I ordered the same bike and I am expecting it early January here in the Netherlands, can't wait!
    One more question, how is the rear brake line guided, in or outside the tube? According to the manual, it should be able to accommodate it in the interiors, but I believe for some reason it is as a standard delivered with an outside guidance. Can you clarify?

    Cheers, Peter
    Hi Peter,
    Size is M
    The 12.2kg's is with Speedplay Frogs pedals, changed stem to longer 100mm (to fit me), changed handlebar's to Salsa Bend 2 (23 dergee's), and tube's still in tyre's.
    Yes come's with Test Pedal's (flat's).
    Rear Brake hose is routed on the outside (under downtube).
    I'm planning to root inside frame in a week or so, Whey is it on the outside of the downtube? because most brakes come bleed as a set and to cut and bleed add's to the price!
    I'll also be shorting the front brake hose.

    Note: the spider that come's on the bike has a PCD of 104mm and 32t chainring is the smallist that fits! i'm looking the change the spider for a NSB one and fit a XX1 30t Chainring.

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    You can fit a Raceface 30t wide/narrow ring on 104 PCD. No need to change the spider to xx1 to go 30t.
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    I see, that makes sense Pete, never thought of that! My LBS will fix it anyway, included in the service.
    I'll try the 32T for a while and see how it works out for me, not too big a mountain in Holland ;-). Some pretty challenging trails though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    You can fit a Raceface 30t wide/narrow ring on 104 PCD. No need to change the spider to xx1 to go 30t.
    Yes you are right about Raceface 30t Ring but I may end up riding with a 28t Ring.

    Thanks Pete...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPjotr View Post
    I see, that makes sense Pete, never thought of that! My LBS will fix it anyway, included in the service.
    I'll try the 32T for a while and see how it works out for me, not too big a mountain in Holland ;-). Some pretty challenging trails though...
    Hi I know that in the Netherlands you have One big Mountain!
    I'm running the stock 32t Ring and seeing how I go!
    I drive Tour Buses all over Europe (1993 to 1997) the buses where based in the Netherlands NL plate's.

    Have fun riding the Flat Land's

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Hi I know that in the Netherlands you have One big Mountain!
    I'm running the stock 32t Ring and seeing how I go!
    I drive Tour Buses all over Europe (1993 to 1997) the buses where based in the Netherlands NL plate's.

    Have fun riding the Flat Land's

    Pete..
    Yeah, like a pancake :-)
    Where I live along the coast, we have the dunes that protect us against the sea, they provide some challenging trails. And yes, one tiny mountain in the southwest, famous for the Amstel Gold Race. I would prefer NZ though...
    Let me know after a couple of weeks how you like the range of the 32T!

    Cheers!

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    is not the evo or the expert but worth a look.

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    I got the first one in California !
    AWESOME ! swapped the Roval Traverse for Roval Control Carbon
    Swapped bars for Enve AM swapped crankset for S-Works with 28tooth chainring
    added Xtr race pedals and swapped henge for phenom expert
    Amazing bike
    new pike fork is the snizzel
    I got a sick S-Works stumpy 29 4 sale if ne 1 is interested (great price and like new not stock) selling because I have too many bikes(I know you feel sorry for me)
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    Did you upgrade the damper in the fork? It comes with the RC, which is kind of crappy compared to the RTC3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    Did you upgrade the damper in the fork? It comes with the RC, which is kind of crappy compared to the RTC3.
    I have not as not need too the STD Damper is great out of the Box.
    The only thing that the STD damper can be set on the go for open the closed (almost locked out) the RTC3 has three clicks and an adjuster for trail? this is just the some as the STD damper and no need to change it (I was going too, but one ride and No need)

    Have Fun and just go for a long ride....

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    FYI Tam Bikes in Marin California has a medium camper expert carbon evo in their showroom if anyone is looking. Saw it there this morning.

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    Merry Christmas to me: Camber Expert Carbon Evo on the way!

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    The RTC3 is a big stepup from the Standard RC. When I ordered my Pike they accidentally sent me an RC and we didnt notice until it was on the bike. The RC is a good fork and I still liked it better than the Fox 34, but the RTC3 is a big step up in feel. When the mistake was discovered they swapped the fork out for me no charge and I'm glad they did!

    If you like the RC then stick with it, but when service time comes you might want to consider swapping the damper.


    Did you ride at all over the past few days? I'm really eager to hear real world reviews of the bike. I'm in the market for a short travel bike and I'm deciding between the Giant Anthem Advanced 27.5 and the Camber Evo. I've rode the Anthem a bunch, but haven't got to pedal the Camber yet!
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    I have heard that order times can vary depending on color scheme and stock for that color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    The RTC3 is a big stepup from the Standard RC. When I ordered my Pike they accidentally sent me an RC and we didnt notice until it was on the bike. The RC is a good fork and I still liked it better than the Fox 34, but the RTC3 is a big step up in feel. When the mistake was discovered they swapped the fork out for me no charge and I'm glad they did!

    If you like the RC then stick with it, but when service time comes you might want to consider swapping the damper.


    Did you ride at all over the past few days? I'm really eager to hear real world reviews of the bike. I'm in the market for a short travel bike and I'm deciding between the Giant Anthem Advanced 27.5 and the Camber Evo. I've rode the Anthem a bunch, but haven't got to pedal the Camber yet!
    What do you mean by "a big step up in feel"? I have been riding the pike with RC damper and it feels pretty good but your comment made me curious about swapping it out for the RTC3.

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    Since I already had a set of XT brakes, full gamut of Thomson goodies, and Carbon Rovals, and the Pike needs a damper change I decided to go a different route and bought a 2014 YetiSB95, full X01 build, and will swap over my parts listed...

    I still really like the looks/feel of the Camber EVO, but having the Carbon rear, shorter stays vs. the Camber and a fit on the SB95 that just feels "right", I think i made the right choice...

    Bike should be in early next week, I had to purchase the 140 Pike elsewhere as Competitive Cyclist couldn't source one out. Got a pretty killer deal on the 2014 Pike for right around $800
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    The RTC3 is a big stepup from the Standard RC. When I ordered my Pike they accidentally sent me an RC and we didnt notice until it was on the bike. The RC is a good fork and I still liked it better than the Fox 34, but the RTC3 is a big step up in feel. When the mistake was discovered they swapped the fork out for me no charge and I'm glad they did!

    If you like the RC then stick with it, but when service time comes you might want to consider swapping the damper.


    Did you ride at all over the past few days? I'm really eager to hear real world reviews of the bike. I'm in the market for a short travel bike and I'm deciding between the Giant Anthem Advanced 27.5 and the Camber Evo. I've rode the Anthem a bunch, but haven't got to pedal the Camber yet!

    The RC and RTC3 Damper are the same! the only difference is the RTC3 has 3 preset clicks (open, Trial, Locked) when the RC you have a load of clicks from full open to Locked out!
    The RTC3 is a great fork but there is No Need to change from the STD Camber Expert EVO fork.
    Pike's Rule and after years of Tuning Fox Forks there is no need to with the new Pike's I have been custom tuning Motorcycle and Bicycle forks for the last 20+ years.
    Before going to Sram night about all the new Sram thing's coming out for 2014 and 2015 I find out that it's all down to the Preset Clicks.
    One of the top designers/man from Sram Europe was at the night! and the low down on how Sram Brakes Suck!! was so to the point (and True).
    I have been Mountain Biking for a few years (from 1978) and My new Camber Expert EVO is the Best all round MTB I have had.
    I have had a few over the years (like Ti fully etc)

    Happy cycling to all.

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    Maybe I had a bad fork, but the Pike RC I had was nowhere near as good as the RCT3. When turning the dial from full open to "Lock", it really didnt change much at all. It clicked, but the fork didnt feel any different. The RCT3 has very distinct settings and you instantly know the difference. The RC did ride alot better than my Fox 34, even with the 2014 float damper though, so I'm not saying it is a bad fork at all!

    Does anyone else have any opinions on how the Camber Evo rides? I'd love to hear more before I decide on my next bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post

    Note: the spider that come's on the bike has a PCD of 104mm and 32t chainring is the smallist that fits! i'm looking the change the spider for a NSB one and fit a XX1 30t Chainring.

    Pete..
    Hi Pete,

    What spider exactly are you contemplating? The spiders I find all are GXP standard. Will they be compatible with the PF30 BB on the Camber? Why doesn't SRAM have separate 94BCD spiders for PF30...

    Peter

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    Wouldn't you be able to pick up a XX1 Spider and XX1 ring of choice to get the desired less than 30t ring if they do not make it for XO1?

    The spider has a different offset I believe bc of the different spline length of the bb30 BB and the GXP, GXP BB is narrower....
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    Why not just get the Raceface wide/narrow 30t ring? It fits on BCD104 and grips just like the xx1 ring. I have one on my Enduro and it works just as well as the xx1 ring on my Stumpjumper.
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    I guess the xx1 spider option for BB30 would do..?

    Yeah, Raceface is another option for sure, but I read somewhere that quality is a little less than the original XX or XO stuff.

    Peter

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    Also, I'd like to be able to swap out chainrings without removing spider/crank assy.

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    Picked up my 2014 Camber Expert Evo today. Had a few changes made, added:Race Face Six C carbon bar, XTR pedals, Phenom saddle, Roval Control Carbon wheelset and Ground Control tires set up tubeless, it is a size medium, weighs 25.3lbs w/o cage and w/o swat tool. Fired up! Can't wait to ride it!

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    Good job! Out in the Redwoods in Taupo New Zealand

    Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?-11379337325_44626c5660_z.jpg

    Camber Expert EVO is the best handling MTB made so far..

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    Drool. I'm going to have to swing by TB after work and see if that thing is still in the showroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post


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    have you ridden a regular Camber? how does the Evo compare?

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    Thinking of pulling the pin on an Camber Expert Evo just not sure on sizing. Bike shop says large but I,m coming of a 2012 M epic. What size are you guys riding for your hieghts. I,m about 175ish haven't done accurate measure yet. cheers

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    Good job! Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by shamrok View Post
    have you ridden a regular Camber? how does the Evo compare?
    Hi yes I have and for me the EVO is best.
    But its all down to the riding your doing.
    My Expert EVO (like all Expert Carbon EVO's) has gone the best forks made for MTBing so far! a Pike!

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by ausgt View Post
    Thinking of pulling the pin on an Camber Expert Evo just not sure on sizing. Bike shop says large but I,m coming of a 2012 M epic. What size are you guys riding for your hieghts. I,m about 175ish haven't done accurate measure yet. cheers
    Hi,
    I'm 172 and at the cross over, I have changed my stem for a longer 100mm one to fit me better

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    I had read in an online article that the only difference between the camber and evo models is that the evo uses a modified swing arm link that adds 10mm travel, drops the BB, which also subsequently slackens the bike out. I was thinking of picking up a used camber and doing the mod myself if this is the case. I'm curious if anyone out there modded a normal camber into an EVO this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haus Boss View Post
    I had read in an online article that the only difference between the camber and evo models is that the evo uses a modified swing arm link that adds 10mm travel, drops the BB, which also subsequently slackens the bike out. I was thinking of picking up a used camber and doing the mod myself if this is the case. I'm curious if anyone out there modded a normal camber into an EVO this way.
    Looks like the rear shock also has longer stroke length by 3mm. The non-EVO Cambers use a 197mm x 48mm shock and the EVO Cambers use a 197mm x 51mm shock. Not sure if it's as simple as removing a spacer or if the shocks are different. You'd also need to see if your LBS would sell you the EVO linkage. Maybe they'd even sell you an EVO kit with the linkage and shock.

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    Hey ausgt, I am 5' 8" tall and I feel that the medium is perfect for me.

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    Cheers guys really not sure which way to go, cant get a test on one either. Anyone else have any input on sizing. Spec need a sizing chart like SCruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasnit View Post
    Hey ausgt, I am 5' 8" tall and I feel that the medium is perfect for me.
    Hi Go and ask your Specialized Shop to check you for size! before you place an order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausgt View Post
    Cheers guys really not sure which way to go, cant get a test on one either. Anyone else have any input on sizing. Spec need a sizing chart like SCruz.
    Hi Specialized do have this in there shop's!
    But Specialized is all about the ride so like rider's to be sized up before buying because a lot of rider's buy too Small or too Big.
    I ride a M because I have short leg's and Long upper body! this is why I have a 100mm stem on my Camber Carbon Expert EVO.
    We have Sold a number of Camber's in L to rider's the same height as me.
    Go to your Specialized Shop and ask to be sized up..
    Happy Cycling...

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    I've just picked up my Camber exp Evo, size L (I'm 1.82m or 6ft)
    The bike rules! I've just bedded in the brakes, will hit the trails tomorrow. The total weight is 12,6 kg or 27,8 lbs including Time ATAC XC 12 pedals (241g), s-works bar ends and a sigma computer, so that would make a clean weight of about 12,3 kg or 27,1 lbs. Not bad!

    If you have a crossover body length, one thing to bear in mind when picking your frame size is that the different sizes actually look different. The specialized website shows only frame size Large, which I find awsome. Smaller sizes have smaller toptube/seattube triangles with size S almost reducing this triangle to nothing, appearing a little odd in my opinion. Google for images on the web. Anyway, can't do much about one's height, can you... It will ride heavenly for sure!!

    Will drop some pictures of my EVO soon!

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    The Evo uses the same shock size that is used on the 26" Stumpjumper. Gives you another option if you want to bump a standard Camber to the 120 like the Evo.

    I'm trying to decide between a Carbon Comp and an Evo Comp, and Im thinking I may go Carbon Comp and then swap over the extra shock I have for my Stumperjumper onto it.
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    Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?-image.jpgAnyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?-image.jpg

    Here it is!

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    iPjotr -- does that include the top cap chain tool? i have a similar bike and the tool is missing, supposedly due to some issue specialized needs to address.
    (and if you want to save weight, remove all the swat tools... but i'm still trying to figure out how best to carry a spare tube on the bike!)

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    It does include the chaintool, at least I can see the spare chain elements, I haven't actually opened the steering tube.
    To carry the spare tube, I'd say carry it in your back pocket..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPjotr View Post
    Here it is!
    I'm green with envy! This is currently my dream bike!
    Ride report soon please
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    I'm green with envy! This is currently my dream bike!
    Ride report soon please
    And it should be! This bike is amazing.
    Compared to my previous bike, a Trek Fuel 98 26", this one is a dream. The suspension is very plush and set 'n forget. It climbs like a cat and is very stable in bouncy descends. Cornering is great and aggressive with the Purgatory and Butcher control tires. One thing I need to get used to is the handlebar width, I kept it as it is, at 750mm, effectively around 720mm with the barends installed. So far so good, I expect to leave it like this. I came from a 600mm XC geo, so the difference is huge, first impressions are good nevertheless. Also the dropper post is a great feature, but I need to learn to make use of it more. It works perfectly though. Shifting with the 1x11 XO1 is a breeze! I'll never go back to a front derailleur, this is so good! Shifting is crisp and fast, the standard range works more than fine for me, I didn't even need the 42 gear yet. Cleaning the drivetrain is child's play with the single chainring upfront, not a minor advantage. And what really stands out on the trail is the silence! No slapping, creaking, you only hear the sound of rubber on the trail and the incidental 'pssss' when oil in the Pike gets pushed around the internals. I'm sold for this bike! Impressive performance, both uphilland downhill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPjotr View Post
    And it should be! This bike is amazing.
    Compared to my previous bike, a Trek Fuel 98 26", this one is a dream. The suspension is very plush and set 'n forget. It climbs like a cat and is very stable in bouncy descends. Cornering is great and aggressive with the Purgatory and Butcher control tires. One thing I need to get used to is the handlebar width, I kept it as it is, at 750mm, effectively around 720mm with the barends installed. So far so good, I expect to leave it like this. I came from a 600mm XC geo, so the difference is huge, first impressions are good nevertheless. Also the dropper post is a great feature, but I need to learn to make use of it more. It works perfectly though. Shifting with the 1x11 XO1 is a breeze! I'll never go back to a front derailleur, this is so good! Shifting is crisp and fast, the standard range works more than fine for me, I didn't even need the 42 gear yet. Cleaning the drivetrain is child's play with the single chainring upfront, not a minor advantage. And what really stands out on the trail is the silence! No slapping, creaking, you only hear the sound of rubber on the trail and the incidental 'pssss' when oil in the Pike gets pushed around the internals. I'm sold for this bike! Impressive performance, both uphilland downhill!

    Cheers, Peter
    Awesome!

    Thanks mate!
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    Sounds an amazing ride. Hows the wheels, tempted on going carbon traverse SL's?

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    A riding buddy of mine was having problems on long steep climbs on her Camber Expert Evo. She switched to a 30t front ring and it helped, but going with the Carbon Control SLs made a HUGE difference. Dropping rotational mass makes a very noticeable difference. I think the Expert Evo should have atleast come with the regular control Carbons like the non-evo model.
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    My bike *really* likes to climb, and I'm pretty sure the carbon rims are a huge part of that.

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    On the Camber Expert Evo hows the down protection against flying rocks? From the pictures it doesn't look like there is any unlike some other manufacturers.

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    NandV......look up Crankskins. They have all sorts of products for protecting
    your bike. I have used their products for years.

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    Has any one rode the Camber EVO Comp? Yes, I know everyone loves the carbon EVO,
    but I would rather get the alloy bike for 3k and upgrade the wheelset.

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    Re: Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?

    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    Has any one rode the Camber EVO Comp? Yes, I know everyone loves the carbon EVO,
    but I would rather get the alloy bike for 3k and upgrade the wheelset.
    I rented the camber evo 29 this weekend and loved it. Can't decide between that bike or the stumpy fsr comp 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NullAndVoid View Post
    On the Camber Expert Evo hows the down protection against flying rocks? From the pictures it doesn't look like there is any unlike some other manufacturers.
    It has a thick transparent adhesive on the underside of the tube. You hardly notice its presence unless you know it's there. On the chainstay there is a clip-on type plastic protection, a nice feature, although I doubt the XO1 chain will ever be close to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    Has any one rode the Camber EVO Comp? Yes, I know everyone loves the carbon EVO,
    but I would rather get the alloy bike for 3k and upgrade the wheelset.
    I rode both the 2014 S-Works Stumjumper FSR 29 ($9+k full carbon blinged out machine) and the 2014 Camber EVO 29 ($3k AL model) at a Specialized demo event last month. Coming off of a 2011 Enduro Expert I was very surprised that at the end of the day I liked Camber EVO better than the Stumpjumper FSR. For me it was the overall handling of the bike that won me over. It was just more fun to ride. All the Camber EVO was lacking was a dropper post. I'm planning on ordering the Camber Carbon Expert EVO tomorrow. I figured if I liked the AL model that much, then the carbon model will be even better.

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    Anyone have any beta on the 2014 Camber EVO or Camber Expert Carbon EVO?

    Oh man, I really love this bike. I'd like to buy it but i think I would feel stupid if I did. 5000€ for a frame, a fork, a derraileur and a casette. I say that because all other parts just suck.
    The wheels are the same as the al comp: way tooo heavy for a 5000€ bike.
    Handlebar is not carbon. Why?
    The cranks dont fit a 28t. Lots of climbs in Mallorca so would have to swap for a pair of XX1-28t.
    Brakes... Why do they put that crap on a nice bike? Those Spaycialized guys want to save money in every part...
    Do I forget something? What a mess that Evo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by molopoko View Post
    Oh man, I really love this bike. I'd like to buy it but i think I would feel stupid if I did. 5000€ for a frame, a fork, a derraileur and a casette. I say that because all other parts just suck.
    The wheels are the same as the al comp: way tooo heavy for a 5000€ bike.
    Handlebar is not carbon. Why?
    The cranks dont fit a 28t. Lots of climbs in Mallorca so would have to swap for a pair of XX1-28t.
    Brakes... Why do they put that crap on a nice bike? Those Spaycialized guys want to save money in every part...
    Do I forget something? What a mess that Evo!
    I am going to respectfully disagree with you molopoko....I have been riding for right at 15 yrs. I have put about 300miles on my Camber Expert Carbon Evo and I think it's just about perfect, it may be the best bike I've ever owned, and there have been many. The brakes have worked great which is total oposite of all I have read. I weigh 195lbs and descend faster than most and the brakes slow and stop just fine. The wheels are not all that heavy(I did replace them because I already owned some nicer ones). I do agree any bike in this range should have a carbon bar, but look around, most don't. My bike with bottle cage, s.w.a.t. multi tool and chain tool, dropper post and tires set up tubeless weighs 25.2lbs.

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    I have to disagree too, you got to be realistic, €5000,- is a lot of money but you get a lot of bike too: a more than solid platform as you mentioned (don't forget the kashima fox ctd) finished with far more than acceptable components.

    The brakes are good, stop like hell, but you MUST bed them in properly. Wheels work for me, sufficiently stiff and not at all that heavy. If you're looking for an affordable save on spinning weight, go for the tires, although the BC and PC rock too. Handle bar is good for this type of bike, comparable carbon types would save you what, 75grams? And if you are really looking for a 28T crankwheel (you won't need it that small) there's easy options to replace.

    Come on, €5000 is money, but well spent. Upgrade your "crappy" components and you might as well buy yourself the S-works equivalent.

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    for most people 26lbs vs 24 lbs is no big deal except for $$. the video review (maybe from mountain bike magazine) said the carbon evo expert was their favorite bike in the test. they did criticize the brakes for racing but otherwise thought the spec was perfect.
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    Curious what you ended up doing. I am looking to go from 32t to 30t for now and don't want to change anything else. Is there any 30t chainring that can be swapped without removing spider/crank and fits the 104 BCD?

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    I got my Camber Evo this week and have been on two good length rides. About 30 minutes in my back brakes (formula c1) started making a horrible fog horn noise and very bad vibration. They were unusable after it started. I really hate they put these brakes on the bike. Everything else was great. Huge improvement in suspension from camber comp I demo'd. I went through the exact directions to bed in brakes before first ride with no luck.

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    Did you break them in properly? I'm having no problems with my T1S..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPjotr View Post
    Did you break them in properly? I'm having no problems with my T1S..
    I went by manufacturers instructions on bedding them in. 50 slow stops at above 20mph?

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    I have had my Evo since January and have had no problem with the T1S. It seems that there are as many who are having problems as there are that aren't. Really unfortunate. Rumor has it 2015 Expert Carbon Evos will come with Shimano XT's

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    It would be great if they switched to XT brakes. I would also love to see a Camber EVO option with carbon wheels like they have on the Epic Expert line.

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    I picked up my Camber EVO few months ago. The bike shop guy was telling me that the 2015's will more than likely have XT brakes. He said that he's heard from a few of the higher ups that everyone is complaining about the brakes (yeah, no crap) and the XT's will likely be the replacements. Maybe I should have waited.... Other than the brakes and a few more lbs than I would like, the bike is absolutely awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanteB View Post
    I rode both the 2014 S-Works Stumjumper FSR 29 ($9+k full carbon blinged out machine) and the 2014 Camber EVO 29 ($3k AL model) at a Specialized demo event last month. Coming off of a 2011 Enduro Expert I was very surprised that at the end of the day I liked Camber EVO better than the Stumpjumper FSR. For me it was the overall handling of the bike that won me over. It was just more fun to ride. All the Camber EVO was lacking was a dropper post. I'm planning on ordering the Camber Carbon Expert EVO tomorrow. I figured if I liked the AL model that much, then the carbon model will be even better.
    Did you do the demo at Enterprise South? I was also at the Spesh demo and did exactly what you did. I rode the S-works stumpy (75% of their demo fleet was stumpy's) then a camber. I ended up purchasing a Camber EVO for $3k and I think it's more fun than the $9k s-works stumpy. Better? Probably not. But more fun.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Neowind712 View Post
    I got my Camber Evo this week and have been on two good length rides. About 30 minutes in my back brakes (formula c1) started making a horrible fog horn noise and very bad vibration. They were unusable after it started. I really hate they put these brakes on the bike. Everything else was great. Huge improvement in suspension from camber comp I demo'd. I went through the exact directions to bed in brakes before first ride with no luck.
    Hi good on you for getting a Camber EVO.
    In New Zealand the rear brakes have been making a load of noise too.
    A friend got this brakes replaced after only two week's of riding has new Camber EVO with Shimano SLX Brakes and it has stopped the noise

    I have a Camber Carbon EVO and love the T1s that come STD on the Carbon EVO's but may replace with Shimano XT brakes later this year.

    The work is that most 2015 MTB's will come with Shimano brake's

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    My LBS called Specialized and they are going to replace the seat stay with a carbon one to see if this resolves the issue. It reportedly fixes the same issue on the stumpjumper a with c1's.

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    I wrecked my EVO the other day. Trashed my front brake. Perfect excuse to get rid of em. Switched to Shimano XT's. Life is good again.

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    ^^^^I like how you think, lol!! XTs are hard to beat. They aren't too terribly expensive, and more importantly, they just work.

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    Sounds like a good crash to me! I wont run anything but Shimano brakes. Even the Deore brakes feel better than most other brands brakes.
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