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    The 2016 SWAT Door

    We saw the three new bikes yesterday and this was the jawdropper.

    Tech: Specialized SWAT Door frame storage - Mtbr.com

    More info on the bikes coming.

    Do you love the door? Yes/no/maybe?

    What will you put in your downtube... contest.

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    Here's our 2016 FSR story and we're sticking to it!

    First Look: 2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR - Mtbr.com
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    Looks like the door makes it both heaver, and a bit less stiff. That just doesn't make sense to me for the sake of storage:

    New 2016 Stumpy FSR Redesign?

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    Hey fc, that last pic - of the grey Stumpy 6Fattie - any idea what size it is? I notice there is no 2nd supporting bridge near the seat tube/top tube junction. Are all 6Fatties like that or is this a small size or something?

    thanks for the pics and article!

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    Sammiches!

    If anyone can feel this reduced stiffness I'll eat my tube. I rode a Large yesterday and it felt at least, if not more, stiff than my 2014 SWorks Epic.

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    How did the 200 gram (1/2 pound) weight penalty feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy View Post
    Hey fc, that last pic - of the grey Stumpy 6Fattie - any idea what size it is? I notice there is no 2nd supporting bridge near the seat tube/top tube junction. Are all 6Fatties like that or is this a small size or something?

    thanks for the pics and article!
    We just put up the fattie article on the home page. That's a Rhyme which is the female version of Stumpy.

    All the FSRs have no seatstay bridge now. It allows them to shorten the chainstays. No loss in stiffness they say.
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    Can a beer fit in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Can a beer fit in there?
    You must love foam.

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    What will I put inside ? I'll keep using my backpack,sorry,but possibly some pot for the end of the ride chill and some energy bars too.
    Either way after 5 years of loyalty I'm most likely done with Specialized,especially now with the Euro vs Dollar weakness these bikes went from expensive-ish to rip off-ish.
    That said this SWAT thing is pure genius.
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    Great idea. Really like that companies are trying to figure out ways to carry essentials without having to have a pack.
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    LOVE the idea. I hate to wear a pack, to the point where I risk hike a bike not to. personally,this will be great for nothing more than being able to carry a small pump and tube/patch kit without having to strap on some bag or wear a pack. I hadn't even thought about carrying food/blocks.

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    It's GOT to be rattly.

    I'm pretty weird about my bike making noise, so this might drive me crazy. Maybe some gloves or gu packs.

    Good use of space, but I'm not sure I would actually use it.
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    I'm also reminded of the SNL skit with Rob Schneider, "you can keep your WEED in there".
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    It's GOT to be rattly.

    I'm pretty weird about my bike making noise, so this might drive me crazy. Maybe some gloves or gu packs.

    Good use of space, but I'm not sure I would actually use it.
    Items get stuffed into the supplied SWAT wraps.

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    I bet that hole makes layup & fabrication so much easier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biking Brazilian View Post
    Items get stuffed into the supplied SWAT wraps.

    Technical Service Videos - SWAT Tube & Pump Wrap Setup and Installation
    Thanks for posting the video.

    It gives a good idea of how the system works. I originally got the impression that the spare tube and pump would take up the storage space directly underneath the bottle cage. That space remains free whilst the spare tube and pump are pushed further up into the down tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Todd- View Post
    I bet that hole makes layup & fabrication so much easier...
    Not so much layup as bladder removal. I seem to remember they do a half cure on the head/down/top tube then bond in the seat tube and final cure. Anyway yes but you also have to have the inside of the tube finished nicely. Take a look inside of a cheap carbon frame sometime and see how much time they take making the inside look nice.

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    Stupidity

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    Is the 200g weight penalty solely for frame construction ? Or does that figure include other items ?

    Its a very clever ides, and everyone has a different tolerance for this stuff, but a 200g weight penalty on an uber expensive carbon frame is egregious to me. When you think of the money you pay to save a 1/2 lb anywhere else on the bike. An external SWAT device is fine especially if it is removeable, and I suppose even a plastic box and bracket weighs 75g but still. It is a bit unsightly but you can tape a tube and levers on with no weight penalty and use a frame bracket for the pump.

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    I really have no need for this on a MTB where I always wear a Camelbak. However it would be cool on my road bike or commuter, where I could just grab a bottle and go.

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    ^^This^^
    It needs to hold a decent cable and lock and be on a commuter-type frame. I'll hold further thoughts until it's been out a while.
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    A neat idea

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    Not all of us here are that concerned with owning a bike that weighs the absolute minimum. I have a 2014 S Works Epic that I ride recreationally several hundred miles per month and would love this feature to be included on the 2016 Epic. For me, the benefits of the SWAT door outweigh the added weight.
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    Has anyone noticed the funky/freaky plastic attached to the top of the downtube on the alu 650b/27.5 bikes? Specialized Bicycle Components

    Any idea what this is?

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