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    Check the early launch site too:

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    The white Jett is on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1337 View Post
    Yes. If people didn't, then why would they offer different color schemes? People like and dislike certain colors...if you bought a bike without looking at it...and then it ended being "hot pink", would you be comfortable riding it? I know I wouldn't.
    Different color schemes for a particular model is completely understandable. And dressing your bike up so it looks nice and color coordinated is great too. Picking a different model based solely on color is crazy to me. But hey, if that makes someone happy and want to ride their bike more, good for them. As for hot pink: if the specs and geometry were what I wanted, sure. And as a bonus it would go well with my hot pink kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1337 View Post
    No clue. Getting all these pics from a Japanese website actually...but the colors seem consistent with what we've seen released on MTBR and NSMB

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    The Google translations of these pages are hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrnHrnt View Post
    The Google translations of these pages are hilarious!
    Lol hilarious because they are so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1337 View Post
    Check the early launch site too:

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    The white Jett is on there.
    Nope that's the base level Jett not the Comp. The color scheme is a two-tone as opposed to the mostly white Comp you posted.

    It looks like that Japanese site has pricing too. Hover over the image and the model and pricing come up. (In Yen, divide by 100 to get a ballpark figure.)

    79.27 for a more accurate exchange rate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrnHrnt View Post
    Nope that's the base level Jett not the Comp. The color scheme is a two-tone as opposed to the mostly white Comp you posted.

    It looks like that Japanese site has pricing too. Hover over the image and the model and pricing come up. (In Yen, divide by 100 to get a ballpark figure.)

    79.27 for a more accurate exchange rate!
    Thought that that was what those numbers were lol.

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    Got this. 2013 Comp Carbon 29 XL








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    Great looking bike Jon!

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    I thought specialized was replacing the avid brakes with magura since the avid's were so problematic? or are they only doing that on certain bike models? e.g. epic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    Got this. 2013 Comp Carbon 29 XL


    Interesting - a new design for the linkage - and one that looks to protect the bearings better. Given that the S-Link bearings on my SW 2011 Epic lasted only a year - this can only be a good thing...

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    Wow, I am excited for some of this stuff. I was going to buy a set of Roval's this year, but will likey wait. ~$1200 carbon ones sound attractive. Also, that rigid Carve SS looks SICK!
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    Just noticed the UK Carve range has been reduced by 10-15% on all the major sites, including the concept stores. Does anyone know how long it will be until they release the 2013's in the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    I'm waiting on weights and prices from my spies in there. If I don't have it by noon, I'll drive down there and kick some tail

    I wrote a ton more stuff on that Camber btw.

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    Did Specialized crack down on releasing prices or something? You expected to have them 5 days ago and nothing yet, I haven't seen numbers posted anywhere else, either.
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    From what I've heard is Specialized is going to be very aggressive with their prices. I hope it is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew-FSR View Post
    Did Specialized crack down on releasing prices or something? You expected to have them 5 days ago and nothing yet, I haven't seen numbers posted anywhere else, either.
    this week is the dealer camp up in utah you'll know something by this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    this week is the dealer camp up in utah you'll know something by this weekend.
    I know, I'm just impatient.
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    Does anyone have anymore pictures available of the 13' Specialized Enduro EVO Expert?

    I'm currently saving my bennie's and I'm very on the fence to wait for the 13' or get a 12' "leftover". If they're going 180mm travel fr/rr then I'll definitely wait, as that's exactly what I want out here where I ride.
    You in Oklahoma City? If yes, come ride with us.

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    From Bike Rumor:

    2013 Specialized Mountain Bikes – Complete Overview & Actual Weights - Bike Rumor

    Weights or most of the bikes.... or at least a lot of them.
    2013 Specialized Camber Comp
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    Hmmm...?

    we just put a sizable deposit down for a 2013 small s works 29er for my wife this saturday at our local shop for when they order the high end stuff and expected a SRAM XX and a XTR model like last years s works epics.

    however all i'm seeing is XTR s works epics, we have been SRAM since forever either of us have not used XTR since the "flippy shifters" of the M960 XTR stuff. I'm not anti-shimano it's just that with eight bikes it's easier to have one gruppo on all the bikes.

    from the photos i'm seeing the red and all black s works epic but not the white? i hope the white isn't just gonna be a frameset

    i guess mine and everyone else that had a 11' s works epics SRAM XX WC brakes crapped out and got warranty replaced and specialized or SRAM didn't like having to replace a gazillion brakesets


    All Epics now have XTR or Magura brakes, no more Avid brakes in the model range

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    From the Bikerumor article:

    "Epic Changes for 2013: All Epic bikes get the new Rockshox Solo Air forks and Autosag shocks. Joe Buckley, MTB Product Manager, says the Autosag shocks help the BRAIN platform system feel much better. When we rode the Epics two years ago, there was a noticeable-if-slight harshness to the first bump, generally with an audible “knock” as the system began working. Before, the two air chambers in BRAIN shocks did not have the check valve that all normal Fox and Rockshox shocks have, so there was no way to change the negative from factory settings. This meant a one-size-fits-all (but likely not ideal for most) setting.

    With the Autosag shocks, there’s a check valve to both set sag and equalize the positive and negative pressure, just like in a Solo Air fork. With both air chambers equalized during set up and constantly balanced while riding, Buckley says suspension works better and smoother than before. Technically, this affects any bike with Autosag, but the Epic sees the most noticeable improvement in feel because it didn’t have Autosag before. All Epics now have XTR or Magura brakes, no more Avid brakes in the model range." bikerumor.com

    2013 Specialized Mountain Bikes – Complete Overview & Actual Weights - Bike Rumor

    Pictured below: 2013 Specialized S-Works Epic frame weight 2280g
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    Hmmm...?

    we just put a sizable deposit down for a 2013 small s works 29er for my wife this saturday at our local shop for when they order the high end stuff and expected a SRAM XX and a XTR model like last years s works epics.

    SRAM SWorks Epic
    (looks like you're getting the 1x11)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    2013 Specialized Mountain Bikes – Complete Overview & Actual Weights - Bike Rumor

    Pictured below: 2013 Specialized S-Works Epic 29er size large frame weight 2280g
    I thought you might be interested in a weight comparison with a 2009 Specialized S-Works Epic carbon frame 26". It's a lot closer than I thought it would be.

    gnriden's medium 2009 S-Works Epic 2218 gr for the frame and shock

    "The frame was stripped except cable guides and bottom bracket. I took off the f. derailleur, seat post, seat post coller, head set bearings and mics. warning stickers."

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    Bottom line no Stumpjumper FSR Elite 29er ???? Too bad..(not for my bank account)

    Very interesting new "anti-clunk" with the Autosag thing on the Epic,but I'm probably the only person in the world that gets a big smile on his face when the frame gets whipped by that clunk feel..
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    Glad to see they are finally pitching the Avids. At some point, if you work for Specy, you have to read these exhaustive threads about loud brakes on your bikes and say "time for a change".
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Nony Moose View Post
    SRAM SWorks Epic
    (looks like you're getting the 1x11)
    Why no ChainGuide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigabyte772 View Post
    Why no ChainGuide?
    Read up on XX1 and all shall be made clear.

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    Good read - the teeth are wider and grip the chain - cool - SRAM XX1 Drivetrain - First Look - Pinkbike

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    WTF????? Crazy.....

    - Camber Comp Alloy 29er -- 28lbs 5oz
    - Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er -- 29lbs 10oz


    ....hhmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate View Post
    WTF????? Crazy.....

    - Camber Comp Alloy 29er -- 28lbs 5oz
    - Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er -- 29lbs 10oz


    ....hhmm.
    My large 2012 Stumpjumper FSR came in at 29.4 lbs with tubes and the crappy factory pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate View Post
    WTF????? Crazy.....

    - Camber Comp Alloy 29er -- 28lbs 5oz
    - Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er -- 29lbs 10oz


    ....hhmm.
    Most of that weight difference is because the 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er comes with a 15QR Fox Float CTD fork (claimed weight 4.49lb/ 2040 grams including thru axle).

    Bike / Forks / By Model / FLOAT | FOX

    The 2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er comes with a 1lb lighter QR Rock Shox Reba RL fork (claimed weight 3.49lb / 1584 grams).

    Reba RL | SRAM

    Apart from that the two bikes have similar specifications. The actual frames are probably close to the same weight, although the longer travel Stumpjumper FSR frame may be a little heavier too.

    2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er specifications
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/u...er_Page_10.jpg

    2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er specifications
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/u...er_Page_08.jpg

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    Still haven't seen anything on the aluminum Stumpy EVO HM 29 - what I keep seeing is the carbon Stumpy EVO HT 29 w/the rigid fork. Common, they have to have one!
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    Pricing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    Pricing?
    Expensive!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Still haven't seen anything on the aluminum Stumpy EVO HM 29 - what I keep seeing is the carbon Stumpy EVO HT 29 w/the rigid fork. Common, they have to have one!
    That's what I'm waiting for!

    Anyone have pictures of this bike??

    When will the Specialized USA website get fully updated to 2013 models??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    Pricing?
    Which model?
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    Sworks Epic and Sworks Epic frame kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    Sworks Epic and Sworks Epic frame kit
    10K for the bike and 5K for the frame.

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    Same as last year then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doedrums View Post
    10K for the bike and 5K for the frame.

    5k for the frame is way more obscene than 10k for the bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    Most of that weight difference is because the 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er comes with a 15QR Fox Float CTD fork (claimed weight 4.49lb/ 2040 grams including thru axle).

    Bike / Forks / By Model / FLOAT | FOX

    The 2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er comes with a 1lb lighter QR Rock Shox Reba RL fork (claimed weight 3.49lb / 1584 grams).

    Reba RL | SRAM

    Apart from that the two bikes have similar specifications. The actual frames are probably close to the same weight, although the longer travel Stumpjumper FSR frame may be a little heavier too.

    2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er specifications
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/u...er_Page_10.jpg

    2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er specifications
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/u...er_Page_08.jpg

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    Every Fox 100mm fork I ever saw weighed in the neighborhood of 3.5 lbs, I don't see why they are making a big deal out of the RS weighing that much other than to hype it up. On the 2013 Camber Comp appears that it will be the best value in the lineup, especially since I prefer SRAM shifting to Shimano which is what is spec'd for the two models on either side of Comp.

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    That includes the fork as well and headset...it is obscene but just say it "I'm worth it"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    5k for the frame is way more obscene than 10k for the bike....
    Most critics of the S-Works bikes fail to realize that the carbon layup used in them is not the same as the Expert and Comp level bikes. Plus, they really don't make that many S-Works bikes every year. Limited production equals higher costs. Whether it is worth it or not is up to the buyer but the S-Works bikes sell out fast. Can't be too expensive if people are buying them. Plus, tech from the top end trickles down to the affordable stuff in a few years anyway. Let the rich guys subsidize the research and development for our stuff.
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    Any pricing on a S-works Enduro frame and S-works Demo frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmithr1 View Post
    Any pricing on a S-works Enduro frame and S-works Demo frame?

    Looks like 8K for the bike and 3.5K for the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doedrums View Post
    Looks like 8K for the bike and 3.5K for the frame.
    Im sorry, so both frames will be around 3.5k? Thanks for the quick response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmithr1 View Post
    Im sorry, so both frames will be around 3.5k? Thanks for the quick response.
    Sorry, forgot to put up the Demo info. 10K bike, 4K frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    Every Fox 100mm fork I ever saw weighed in the neighborhood of 3.5 lbs,
    The 100 does weigh 3.5. But the 130 on the sj is 4.5 (its a 140 with a 10mm reducer spacer in it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    Every Fox 100mm fork I ever saw weighed in the neighborhood of 3.5 lbs.
    The fork on the 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er is a "Fox Float CTD Evolution, tapered steerer, 15mm thru axle 130mm travel".

    It looks as though that's likely to be a "custom for Specialized" OEM Fox Float 34 29" 140mm travel fork, only reduced to 130mm travel internally and with no kashima coating on the stanchions to cut costs. That fork has a claimed weight of 4.49lb/ 2040g.

    34 FLOAT 29 140 FIT CTD w/Trail Adjust Bike Fork | FOX

    Although the Fox fork is quite a bit heavier than a 110mm travel 32mm stanchion QR skewer Rock Shox Reba RL fork it should offer some handling benefits. The Fox's larger diameter 34mm stanchions being stiffer for improved tracking and front end precision in rough terrain. The 15mm thru axle should also stiffen the fork up a bit compared to the Rock Shox Reba RL fork. The front hub of the 2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er appears to use a standard quick release skewer, rather than a DT RWS thru bolt skewer, so the difference between the two is probably going to be quite noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    The fork on the 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Alloy 29er is a "Fox Float CTD Evolution, tapered steerer, 15mm thru axle 130mm travel".

    It looks as though that's likely to be a "custom for Specialized" OEM Fox Float 34 29" 140mm travel fork, only reduced to 130mm travel internally and with no kashima coating on the stanchions to cut costs. That fork has a claimed weight of 4.49lb/ 2040g.

    34 FLOAT 29 140 FIT CTD w/Trail Adjust Bike Fork | FOX

    Although the Fox fork is quite a bit heavier than a 110mm travel 32mm stanchion QR skewer Rock Shox Reba RL fork it should offer some handling benefits. The Fox's larger diameter 34mm stanchions being stiffer for improved tracking and front end precision in rough terrain. The 15mm thru axle should also stiffen the fork up a bit compared to the Rock Shox Reba RL fork. The front hub of the 2013 Camber Comp Alloy 29er appears to use a standard quick release skewer, rather than a DT RWS thru bolt skewer, so the difference between the two is probably going to be quite noticeable.
    Can anyone confirm this? The 2012 Expert Carbon 29 had a "Fox Performance F130 RL, FIT damper, tapered steerer, reb and LO adj., 15mm thru-axle, 130mm", but I do not believe it was a 34mm stanchion fork. I have a 2013 Comp Carbon with the "Fox Float CTD Evolution, tapered steerer, 15mm thru axle 130mm travel" and I cannot tell. I'd love to think it's the 34 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    Can anyone confirm this? The 2012 Expert Carbon 29 had a "Fox Performance F130 RL, FIT damper, tapered steerer, reb and LO adj., 15mm thru-axle, 130mm", but I do not believe it was a 34mm stanchion fork. I have a 2013 Comp Carbon with the "Fox Float CTD Evolution, tapered steerer, 15mm thru axle 130mm travel" and I cannot tell. I'd love to think it's the 34 though.
    Specialized often have "custom" OEM forks which are different to any of the retail forks. If you've got the bike there you should be able to just measure the diameter of the stanchions on your fork to check.

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    ^you are correct...i just want the internet to tell me before I get home from work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    The 100 does weigh 3.5. But the 130 on the sj is 4.5 (its a 140 with a 10mm reducer spacer in it.)
    My 130mm FOX Float on my 2012 SJFSR weighs in at approx 4.2 with the axle

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    Ordered the stumpjumper fsr comp evo 29er today... Will get it at the end of next week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1337 View Post
    I thought specialized was replacing the avid brakes with magura since the avid's were so problematic? or are they only doing that on certain bike models? e.g. epic?
    they are. avids are horrible. stumpie and epic are getting replaced with maguras. im stoked on the replacement. the 2013 stumpie marathon is the level between the sworks and the expert. it gets carbon rims and hubs.

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    2013 Epic Carbon Comp fresh from the LBS. Same pricing on them as last year.
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    S Works Epic 26'' frame available in 2013???
    Price/weight any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    Specialized often have "custom" OEM forks which are different to any of the retail forks. If you've got the bike there you should be able to just measure the diameter of the stanchions on your fork to check.
    I work for a specialized dealer so I really should know this. Manager bros say it's a Fox 32 on all non evo 29ers. It's too bad they didn't just equip them with 34's and drop them with a spacer. I also don't have a non metallic or rigid way to measure it myself so I couldn't measure my own.

    edit: Mr. Lynch has pointed out that I can simply use a piece of string to wrap around my stanchion and measure said string to find out. It takes a village.
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    All Epics are 29", no 26".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    I work for a specialized dealer so I really should know this. Manager bros say it's a Fox 32 on all non evo 29ers. It's too bad they didn't just equip them with 34's and drop them with a spacer. I also don't have a non metallic or rigid way to measure it myself so I couldn't measure my own.

    edit: Mr. Lynch has pointed out that I can simply use a piece of string to wrap around my stanchion and measure said string to find out. It takes a village.
    Thanks for clearing that up. I wrote that post last night but suspected that I was probably wrong. If they were actually Fox 34 forks it would be a selling point that would be included in the specifications for all the models.

    The 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Evo 29er has a 140mm/110mm travel Fox 34 Talas fork which is listed on the product page so that bike definitely comes with a Fox 34 fork. The other non Evo 2013 Stumpjumper FSRs will be Fox 32 forks I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    I work for a specialized dealer so I really should know this. Manager bros say it's a Fox 32 on all non evo 29ers. It's too bad they didn't just equip them with 34's and drop them with a spacer. I also don't have a non metallic or rigid way to measure it myself so I couldn't measure my own.

    edit: Mr. Lynch has pointed out that I can simply use a piece of string to wrap around my stanchion and measure said string to find out. It takes a village.
    I seriously doubt Specialized is going to spec Fox 34 on anything but maybe the top of the line models. Last year they didn't even spec a model with compression adjustment, why would they go to 34?

    No need to space it down, made mine more fun at 140mm. Personally think they should come that way stock.
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    When are we gonna get pricing on the 2013's? I was told by my LBS that after the show last week pricing would be released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    When are we gonna get pricing on the 2013's? I was told by my LBS that after the show last week pricing would be released.
    Plus dates of availability!

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    Dealer should have pricing now and estimated availability from the dealer portal.
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    Bike presentation 2013 Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie24 View Post
    Bike presentation 2013 Italy

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    Yeah just called my LBS here in Italy. He attended the presentation and he had a blast on the Turbo . Too bad it won't be street legal in Italy aswell. But he confirmed me they'll have an M5 Stumpy FSR Elite 29 ,sooooo happy for this !! Selling right now to make funds my 2011 Stumpy FSR Elite 26

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    The New Rideness

    Just picked up my new Stumpy... take a look! These are the last pics before I get this thing properly dirty. That white can't stay white!

    Hope you dig as much as I do - see you on the trails!
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    Great looking bike, congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by down2ride View Post
    Great looking bike, congrats!
    Agreed. Very nice!

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    Nice bike Bernsense! What size is it, and how tall are you?

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    Finally had time today to call my LBS and inquire about the 2013 Camber Comp I am interested in. $2600 list price, available in November.

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    The 2013 Carve Expert will not have the cyan/orange colorscheme in the US unfortunately. Its going to be black on black, like the SL Carve, with a few items of red trimming.

    I wanted the cyan/orange color scheme, but ordered the bike anyway. LBS thinks just a few weeks before its available.

    I did walk out the door with a white/blue 2013 Myka Comp Disc for my special lady friend. Its nice lookin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franz View Post
    Nice bike Bernsense! What size is it, and how tall are you?
    hi franz,

    it's an XL, and I'm 6'2. I used to ride a large for many years, but never felt completely comfortable on it. this one seemed to fit from the get go. even with the switch from a 26 to a 29er... did all kinds of trails with a demo from my LBS for 2 weeks (nice job, thanks cynergy!), from the local socal trails to mammoth's black diamonds, and it rocked (I had a 2012 stumpy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernsense View Post
    it's an XL, and I'm 6'2. I used to ride a large for many years, but never felt completely comfortable on it. this one seemed to fit from the get go. even with the switch from a 26 to a 29er... did all kinds of trails with a demo from my LBS for 2 weeks (nice job, thanks cynergy!), from the local socal trails to mammoth's black diamonds, and it rocked (I had a 2012 stumpy)
    Awesome, thanks
    I'm 6' 4" and very interested in the new Expert EVO carbon. I rode a 2012 Stumpy 29 (non-EVO) in size L and it actually felt good size-wise - I do like a smaller bike though, and I've got shortish arms / legs for my height. I definitely plan on testing an XL too.

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    All Specy dealers should have 2013 pricing now. PL 2013 is over.
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    drool...nice 2013 bikes.

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    Woah! Love the murdered out black look. About the same paint job as my Stumpy Evo HT 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase1963 View Post
    All Specy dealers should have 2013 pricing now. PL 2013 is over.
    They have pricing, sure, just plan on waiting until there is snow on the ground before taking delivery and riding your new 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    just plan on waiting until there is snow on the ground before taking delivery and riding your new 2013
    We will see on monday my shop is putting in their order for the S Works bikes we put a deposit down on a small S Works epic for my wife...if it gets here before thanksgiving that will great, but i'm thinking a lot sooner we shall see.

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    Hi All, This is my first post on MTBR. I have been mountain biking since 1990 and am currently 49 years old. I am a recreational rider but I do ride a fair amount. I would say I average about 40 miles per week in the woods. I am currently riding a stumpjumer fsr comp (2007) and I am very pleased with it. Prior to 2007 I was riding a stumpjumper m2 comp HT. My 20 year old son is now riding and he is using my old M2 comp. He is a pre-med student and can not afford a bike. I am buying a new bike so that I can pass along my SJ fsr comp which he likes very much. I am demoing an Epic Comp 29er with my first ride completed this morning. I will be riding during my lunch today on trails that I have ridden many times on my stumpy 26er.

    My big questions is do I go with SJ FSR, Camber or Epic? After my ride this morning the Epic is definitely stiff but it seems to be a great climber. My 26 to 29 adjustment appears like it will be a nonevent. My first obstacle was a brook crossing with a tight hard right that I had not made on my SJ yet. My first attempt on the Epic 29er was successful much to my son and I's amazement. My son did notice that I was faster this morning as he was struggling to stay with me and I honestly did not feel like I was pushing. I ride lots of snowmobile trails, some single track (would ride more if readily available) and logging roads. I am not into lift service biking. I have been to Sunday river on numerous occasions but never buy a lift ticket. I do very little racing but this may change as my son may start doing the endurance races and I am sure I will be tempted to join him. We did the 12 hours of Bradbury last year as solo riders. I completed 9 laps (72 miles) with my SJ FSR Comp.

    Based on above does someone have a helpul opinion on SJ, Camber or Epic as a bike choice? I think my desision process is between an Epic comp 29er and a Camber carbon comp 29er at this time. I am ok with the purchase price of either. I think the FSR may have a little too much travel for me. I generally keep both tires on the ground but am not afraid of steep single tracks (up or down).

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    Quote Originally Posted by westmemtns View Post
    Hi All, This is my first post on MTBR. I have been mountain biking since 1990 and am currently 49 years old. I am a recreational rider but I do ride a fair amount. I would say I average about 40 miles per week in the woods. I am currently riding a stumpjumer fsr comp (2007) and I am very pleased with it. Prior to 2007 I was riding a stumpjumper m2 comp HT. My 20 year old son is now riding and he is using my old M2 comp. He is a pre-med student and can not afford a bike. I am buying a new bike so that I can pass along my SJ fsr comp which he likes very much. I am demoing an Epic Comp 29er with my first ride completed this morning. I will be riding during my lunch today on trails that I have ridden many times on my stumpy 26er.

    My big questions is do I go with SJ FSR, Camber or Epic? After my ride this morning the Epic is definitely stiff but it seems to be a great climber. My 26 to 29 adjustment appears like it will be a nonevent. My first obstacle was a brook crossing with a tight hard right that I had not made on my SJ yet. My first attempt on the Epic 29er was successful much to my son and I's amazement. My son did notice that I was faster this morning as he was struggling to stay with me and I honestly did not feel like I was pushing. I ride lots of snowmobile trails, some single track (would ride more if readily available) and logging roads. I am not into lift service biking. I have been to Sunday river on numerous occasions but never buy a lift ticket. I do very little racing but this may change as my son may start doing the endurance races and I am sure I will be tempted to join him. We did the 12 hours of Bradbury last year as solo riders. I completed 9 laps (72 miles) with my SJ FSR Comp.

    Based on above does someone have a helpul opinion on SJ, Camber or Epic as a bike choice? I think my desision process is between an Epic comp 29er and a Camber carbon comp 29er at this time. I am ok with the purchase price of either. I think the FSR may have a little too much travel for me. I generally keep both tires on the ground but am not afraid of steep single tracks (up or down).

    I would stay with the Epic or Camber, just don't see you needing the travel of the SJ FSR.
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    Just took the Epic demo for the extended lunch ride (90 minutes / 12 miles) technical terain with substantial hills. I reduced my air pressure half way through the ride as the tires were hard and this helped soften the ride a great deal on also helped climbing on the power line trails I hit. I am not impressed with the stock tire. I would definitely replace the rear if I purchased this new.

    On a whole this bike is a great climber. I definitely noticed that with the 29er when you go down you have less recovery time then a 26er. I found myself a few times spinning out with one crank without the ability to recover. Probably inexperience with the bike and 29" wheels. On a whole I was very impressed with the bike and I am leaning toward getting the 2013. Having said this I wish I could try a Camber but I understand that the Camber comes with inferior components. I also question if the 20mm of additional travel would make that big of a difference.

    I have two questions for anyone who could help. The first one is Camber Carbon or Epic Comp? The second is tubed tires or tubeless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westmemtns View Post

    I have two questions for anyone who could help. The first one is Camber Carbon or Epic Comp? The second is tubed tires or tubeless?
    For the riding you do, Epic & tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    We will see on monday my shop is putting in their order for the S Works bikes we put a deposit down on a small S Works epic for my wife...if it gets here before thanksgiving that will great, but i'm thinking a lot sooner we shall see.
    Yeah, the last I heard was late October is the soonest for their high demand bikes e.g. FSR's, Epics, Camber's, Stumpy's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzo2012 View Post
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    Is that the Comp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    Yeah, the last I heard was late October is the soonest for their high demand bikes e.g. FSR's, Epics, Camber's, Stumpy's...

    Maybe, maybe not. Spec just got in over 50 large Red/black Stumpy Comp 29ers on last Thursday and they have already sold the entire shipment. The bikes are coming in, just not in large amounts. Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    Yeah, the last I heard was late October is the soonest for their high demand bikes e.g. FSR's, Epics, Camber's, Stumpy's...
    Last you heard...from who?

    Website will be updated any day now

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    I saw a guy racing a 2013 Epic S-works in red/black at the Breck100 the weekend before last. Guessing it was a warranty frame or sponsorship bike. Was looking pretty sweet. Sorry I didn't snap a pic as I was racing too.
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    Just received some price info for the Epics here in Germany. It seems that there will be a price increase of 10% on Epics and Stumpys without significantly changing the specs. The Epic Marathon seems to come in at 5800 €, S-Works 8 grands, available at concept stores by end of August!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot View Post
    I saw a guy racing a 2013 Epic S-works in red/black at the Breck100 the weekend before last. Guessing it was a warranty frame or sponsorship bike. Was looking pretty sweet. Sorry I didn't snap a pic as I was racing too.
    The red/black is a 2012 colour. Warranty frames can come in any of the colours not necessarily the colour chosen by that country for that year. The black/ red was standard in Australia for example. S Works bikes have always surfaced in the shops around October much later than the lower models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N View Post
    The red/black is a 2012 colour. Warranty frames can come in any of the colours not necessarily the colour chosen by that country for that year. The black/ red was standard in Australia for example. S Works bikes have always surfaced in the shops around October much later than the lower models.
    Got my 2012 S-works epic in late Sep

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Got my 2012 S-works epic in late Sep
    Nice, as I said, around October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkinho View Post
    Just received some price info for the Epics here in Germany. It seems that there will be a price increase of 10% on Epics and Stumpys without significantly changing the specs. The Epic Marathon seems to come in at 5800 €, S-Works 8 grands, available at concept stores by end of August!
    10% seems higher than it should be. I guess when you don't have any serious competition you can get away with it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    10% seems higher than it should be. I guess when you don't have any serious competition you can get away with it!
    Lets not start this. I've been racing all this summer and have barely seen Specialized Bikes at the events. This past weekend out of 150 riders, I may have seen a total of 15 Specialized bikes. The majority of bikes were overwhelmingly Giants, but that could just be where I'm at. But I do see a lot of Specialized bikes elsewhere, and there is nothing wrong with that, its just us consumers are willing to pay the price for their bikes.

    If you guys don't like the prices, there are plenty of other bike brands that are building quality bikes: Trek, Santa Cruz, Pivot, Transition, Giant, GT, Devinci, Turner, Intense... just to name a few. The competition in this market is alive and well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2013stumpiemarathon View Post
    they are. avids are horrible. stumpie and epic are getting replaced with maguras.
    unfortunately, they only seem to use maguras on higher end models. my SJ comp carbon has avids. so far, they've been ok. I did the burn in process before the first ride, and they are quiet. can feel a little vibration when they're getting hot, though. might be a place for an update in the future. but so far, so good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpjumper61 View Post
    10% seems higher than it should be. I guess when you don't have any serious competition you can get away with it!

    Great pic, even 70 years ago those Germans already wore helmets and probably with beer as the only doping

    Regarding prices, at least my dealer is granting me 20% discount even on the 2013 models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkinho View Post
    Regarding prices, at least my dealer is granting me 20% discount even on the 2013 models.
    I paid the same price for the 2013 as I would have for the 2012...

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    Any pricing available on the cambers yet?

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    I've placed my order for the 2013 stumpy evo already. Without even knowing the exact pricing. My dealer will get back to me after contacting his rep. As for ETA - his computer showed August?! Which I think is optimistic but man would I LOVE if that were true. Fingers are crossed-

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