I actually think their rear triangles are carbon on those bikes as they are S-Works level. The graphics are very similar. I like the one color understated let the riders legs to the talking look.
The 2013 Rockhopper has the A1 Premium Aluminum frame. The M4 is now only for the Carve and up. That was my HUGE dissappointment, besides all the other downgrades. Yes, the price dropped 60 bucks, but the I'd rather drop down 240 bucks more and go to the Hardrock for the same base frame.
Wow, sounds like they're really lowering the specs each year. My 2011 RH Comp 29 has an M4 frame with sliding dropouts!
I believe the Carve Comp 2013 is $1600, which appears to be a set up from the previous year. Do prices go down throughout the year? I believe it's available around the start of July. I didn't see an pro or an expert listed yet.
Looks badass, my only question is how much of a bump is there over a 2x10 and M4SL frame to justify the price?
I believe the Carve Comp 2013 is $1600, which appears to be a set up from the previous year. Do prices go down throughout the year? I believe it's available around the start of July. I didn't see an pro or an expert listed yet.
Looks badass, my only question is how much of a bump is there over a 2x10 and M4SL frame to justify the price?
The 2012 expert was 1600 and similarly equipped to the 2013 comp at 1600. Which bottom bracket is on the 2013 comp?
Why does Specialized have to be such an unethical company? They makes such beautiful bikes. I own an Epic and love it, but it bums me out how they treat there dealers and other brands.
Erik
What do you mean? What does specialize do thats bad? Not saying you're wrong just I wasn't aware of this.
Why does Specialized have to be such an unethical company? They makes such beautiful bikes. I own an Epic and love it, but it bums me out how they treat there dealers and other brands.
Erik
I have to ask own an Apple product? Fill up at Exon or Mobil stations?
Looks badass, my only question is how much of a bump is there over a 2x10 and M4SL frame to justify the price?
'12 Carves had M4SL frames too.
'13 Carve Comp has a gold Recon(was spec'd on the '12 Pro model only last year), and 2x10. I was hoping it'd be around the same price as the '12 model, but if its priced at the '12 Expert price and comes with the '12 Pro fork, you could consider $1600 still a good deal.
What do you mean? What does specialize do thats bad? Not saying you're wrong just I wasn't aware of this.
The other thing that is bothering me on Specialized at the moment is reading their responses on Bikerumor regarding 650b. I'm currently not agreeing or disagreeing with 650b until I ride one but they are so negative.
They have been known to squash smaller dealers and force them just to sell big S and their legal maneuvers against smaller bike companies have been well documented. They do however make awesome bikes. I ride a 29er Epic and love it, just don't enjoy the ethics of the company.
The other thing that is bothering me on Specialized at the moment is reading their responses on Bikerumor regarding 650b. I'm currently not agreeing or disagreeing with 650b until I ride one but they are so negative.
Erik
Vote with your wallet then. Protecting brand image is standard procedure in any business.
They have been known to squash smaller dealers and force them just to sell big S and their legal maneuvers against smaller bike companies have been well documented. They do however make awesome bikes. I ride a 29er Epic and love it, just don't enjoy the ethics of the company.
Erik
Iīm not saying that I canīt understand some of the stated, though I see things different (everybody likes to nag at the companies leading the market). Itīs still worth a discussion.
But there are threads about that already.
what fork,rear and front derailleur, crankset, cassette,shifters,brakes does ii has?
Suntour fork and crank I think. 8 speed cassette. I'd guess either Alivio or X4 F&R deraileurs and shifters. I think the sport disc models are coming with Tectro hydrolics this year.
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