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    2013 S-Works Epic SRAM

    What's everyone think of the new 2013 S-Works Epic SRAM being 1X11? I was planning to buy a frameset and build one up XTR (I don't like the colors of the XTR full builds), but I'm seriously considering the SRAM one now. I currently have a S-Works Stumpjumper with SRAM and aren't happy with the front derailleur or the brakes, which is why I was leaning towards XTR. Since they went 1x and changed the brakes, I'm leaning towards the SRAM build. Thoughts? Thanks!

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    Some Thoughts:

    Thinking along the same line upgrade to a 1 x 11 or 2 x 11?

    Like the sram rear deraileur clutch idea for chain slap; however, the 1 x 11 is on the light side of XC, many of times I have been in the large front chain ring climbing, until the unexpected nasty hairpin turn, root poping out of the ground or just no leg left and glad I had the smaller instant shift down to the smaller front chain ring to save me, being cliped in and all and just make it up the climb.. I set up the rear to be somewhere in the middle gear, just in case I have to drop to the small ring on the climb...just one shift....I couldn't see climbing as well with the 1 x 11, to many shifts, shifting at the wrong time, chain under load, could break a chain, more were and tear on the chain ring, premature wear, or I could be wrong, Sram might have the perfect front rear set up...I hadn't tried it....I didn't like a 29er until I found the Specialized Eipc and I had ridden a few...So for now just looking from the outside trying to look N...some real feedback would be great....These were just some thoughts.

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    you can't do 2x11
    the rear deraileur will not allow it
    it can only handle about a 4 tooth range if I read everything correctly

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    Does anyone know if I can take the wheels off my 2012 S-works Stumpjumper and use them on a 2013 S-works Epic? I've heard the spacing in the rear is different but wanted to know if anyone could verify.

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    If they are 135mm you can buy 142mm end caps to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttusomeone View Post
    Does anyone know if I can take the wheels off my 2012 S-works Stumpjumper and use them on a 2013 S-works Epic? I've heard the spacing in the rear is different but wanted to know if anyone could verify.
    If its a Stumpy HT that is a 135mm spacing and the Epic is 142 so you would need the hub adaptors which would make them work fine. If its a Stumpy FSR, that is already 142 so they can be used on the Epic without changing anything.

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    I used the dt swiss kit for the 240 axle
    I use the same wheels on my stumpy single speed and fsr

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    I think if you have the legs the 11-speed Sram is awesome! Had the chance to ride one at Eurobike and I can see it making a lot of sense for some people. But like everything that is niche, not everyone will get it.

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    Yeah I'm really intrigued with the 11-speed but am not completely sold on if I'll like it or not. I've done the calculations on the gearing and know I will only be losing a little on the top end and bottom end, but still not sure. I would like to ride one before I make a choice but I doubt that's going to be possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by tobyinsydney View Post
    I think if you have the legs the 11-speed Sram is awesome! Had the chance to ride one at Eurobike and I can see it making a lot of sense for some people. But like everything that is niche, not everyone will get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttusomeone View Post
    Yeah I'm really intrigued with the 11-speed but am not completely sold on if I'll like it or not. I've done the calculations on the gearing and know I will only be losing a little on the top end and bottom end, but still not sure. I would like to ride one before I make a choice but I doubt that's going to be possible.
    Yes, it is remarkable how little you lose wen you actually work out the gearing. I went through this anal retentive thing when I went 2x10 and in practice I've not noticed any downside at all.

    Actually when my last chain was on its last legs and during a wet ride, I couldn't use the small chain ring at all which forced me to do my 2-hour XC loop in the big ring. Never noticed it at all. ;-)

    Looking at the Olympic XC - all the top riders all looked like they were on 1x11 SRAM.

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    If you don't have it, you don't miss it.

    I agree, its amazing what gear combo you can push when its not an option to go easier.

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    I encourage all to give a 1x a try. Since going that route I've never looked back and do not struggle up hills at all. In fact I still don't use all my gearing!
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    The more I look at the SRAM 1x11 setup the more I think that's the way I want to go. I'd still really like to ride this bike before buying it so I'm going to have to see if I can find a demo model around anywhere once they are released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttusomeone View Post
    Yeah I'm really intrigued with the 11-speed but am not completely sold on if I'll like it or not. I've done the calculations on the gearing and know I will only be losing a little on the top end and bottom end, but still not sure. I would like to ride one before I make a choice but I doubt that's going to be possible.
    Did the same calculations myself.
    I wonder if the feeling would be the same as when I moved from 3x9 to 2x10... a.k.a. not that much of an issue for loosing a bit on the upper and a bit on the lower... made me stronger on the bike... we'll see. As is, not sure when those SRAM based EPIC's are going to be shipping since I do not see SRAM shipping their XX1 as of yet.

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    I decided to go 1x10 due to concerns regarding the 1x11 availability.
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