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    2013 epic marathon.....expert

    Has anyone got the marathon, can you give me some feedback on the carbon rims without the bead...any issues? Have you tried running below 25 psi? Is the marathon worth the extra money than the expert?
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    I believe they became available in the US two days ago. I did not ready my email until yesterday and after some price negotiation I placed my order. I will have the bike by the end of next week ready to race a six hours race. I will let you know how it goes. I will be a little skeptical about going under 28 PSI for me as I raced my previous bike with 26" alloy rims at 25 psi. I am a little nervous about these rims. Hope I don't have to fork out a bunch of money as soon as I get the bike.

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    Cheers, i look forward to hearing how the bike turns out, i think you can normally run 29ers with a bit less presure in the tyres. I also imagine specialized has given a big safety margine on the 25 psi, so you probably can go a few psi's less.

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    I ran my carbon Roval SL's @ around 22-23psi without issue. On a rigid fork no less. Straight as an arrow after a full season.
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    The marathon doesn't run sl's they are a cheaper version without a bead to save production costs

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    I knew that, just assumed you were concerned about the carbon bottoming out on roots/rocks. As for the beadless rims, I'm not too sure.
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    I've got the Epic Marathon. While I've only done about 125km I've had no issues running tubeless with 28psi rear and 25psi front.

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    According to my LBS mine is on the way... Can't wait to get it!
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    Mine showed up Wednesday, picking it up later today. More bling (chrome) than I expected. Can't wait to get it dirty this weekend as it is going to be an "Epic" weekend

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    Further reports on Marathons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baggr99 View Post
    Mine showed up Wednesday, picking it up later today. More bling (chrome) than I expected. Can't wait to get it dirty this weekend as it is going to be an "Epic" weekend
    Photos?

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    I opted for the Evo R and ordered the Rovals SL's for it. I have the SL's on my Stumpy and didn't want compromise on the lower end carbon wheels.
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    Mine arrived on Saturday (UK colours). Running Ground Control tubeless on the beadless carbon rims at about 30-35psi. No problems at all so far. I had the bike shop change the tyres from the Fast Track to Ground Control, and they said that they were very easy to install and seal.

    The Gripshifts are superb.

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    Anyone got a weight yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Anyone got a weight yet?
    Medium frame, setup tubeless with Candy 3's and a Henge Comp = 23.98 lbs

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    My LBS is telling me the Marathon isn't available yet, but I seem to be seeing a few bikes in y'all's hands here in the US. Hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew-FSR View Post
    My LBS is telling me the Marathon isn't available yet, but I seem to be seeing a few bikes in y'all's hands here in the US. Hmmm...
    They should be available, albeit in limited quantities. We have a few at my shop.

    The next run is due sometime in November.

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    I have the 2013 Stumpjumper Marathon 29 HT, which has most of the same specs as the Epic -- including the bead-hook-less carbon Rovals. I've put a lot of distance on the wheels and -- like Mike59 -- exchanged the Fast Trak for Ground Control. I'm running tubeless and have finally settled on about 25 PSI as my sweet spot. I started at 30, went down to 22, and to 25. These wheels are exceptional. I have had no issues whatsoever after riding extensively for the past month in our Rocky Mountain terrain in south central Montana. The tubeless setup was a breeze, and after the Stan's settled, the wheels have remained at my desired PSI (I constantly check each ride to make sure). The Rovals are super stiff and super light at about 1530 g. I haven't noticed any difference from the prior year's bead-hook version, which I rode a lot, and these. Simply put -- they are fantastic. You'll be stoked, especially if you're coming off heavier aluminum rims.

    As for the rest of the specs on the Marathon version, it's about the best bang for the buck available. Carbon cranks, S-Works carbon flat bar, carbon wheels, XO Type 2 derailleur, XO grip shift (which is super crisp and fast, especially for big gear jumps or dumps -- though I ditched the SRAM grips in favor of ESI Chunky cut down in length).

    If your Epic Marathon is en route, you are in for one helluva fun fall. Cheers,

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    Here's mine. Done close to 200km with no issues. This is my race bike for 100km enduros so I've been running the brains 2 clicks from the firmest setting.

    It is 10.7kg as pictured.
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    hardtail or full?

    Quote Originally Posted by CasteelG View Post
    Medium frame, setup tubeless with Candy 3's and a Henge Comp = 23.98 lbs
    23.98 for hardtail or full susp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    23.98 for hardtail or full susp?
    The 2013 Epic Marathon I just posted is 10.7kg which is 23.58 pounds

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    gorgeous bike! that's impressive weight considering its not fully carbon

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    sweet

    Quote Originally Posted by bt100 View Post
    The 2013 Epic Marathon I just posted is 10.7kg which is 23.58 pounds
    really nice bike. i was wondering if CasteelG's bike was hardtail or full

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt100 View Post
    Here's mine. Done close to 200km with no issues. This is my race bike for 100km enduros so I've been running the brains 2 clicks from the firmest setting.

    It is 10.7kg as pictured.
    Nice! More photos, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt100 View Post
    Here's mine. Done close to 200km with no issues. This is my race bike for 100km enduros so I've been running the brains 2 clicks from the firmest setting.

    It is 10.7kg as pictured.
    That's lovely. I think I prefer that to mine (the UK red/black). Mine is size Large, with heavier non-S-Works Ground Control tyres and SPD pedals. Weighs in at 11.1kg, but feels a HELL of a lot lighter that that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bt100 View Post
    Here's mine. Done close to 200km with no issues. This is my race bike for 100km enduros so I've been running the brains 2 clicks from the firmest setting.

    It is 10.7kg as pictured.
    What size is this? Medium? And I assume US colours?

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    Thanks for all the feedback, in the end i couldn't justify the money, but i am very envious, it's seems the worries about the wheels were unjustified, i guess specialized would'nt put a second rate wheel on such a great bike with olympic results.
    Happy cycling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgfish View Post
    What size is this? Medium? And I assume US colours?
    It is a medium and I'm in Australia so I'm not sure if they are the US colours or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt100 View Post
    Here's mine. Done close to 200km with no issues. This is my race bike for 100km enduros so I've been running the brains 2 clicks from the firmest setting.

    It is 10.7kg as pictured.
    I want that bar! It'll match my new white Roval SL's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic View Post
    I want that bar! It'll match my new white Roval SL's!
    That's funny... I was just thinking the Marathon should've come with the Roval SL wheels so that the bar and wheels matched!
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    Can't justify the money but needs must. Anyone have actual weights of the Expert Carbon? My Bike shop confirmed there is only 450grms between Sworks and Marathon in total weight. Also said wheels on Marathon are 100grams lighter than Alloy on the Expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgfish View Post
    Can't justify the money but needs must. Anyone have actual weights of the Expert Carbon? My Bike shop confirmed there is only 450grms between Sworks and Marathon in total weight. Also said wheels on Marathon are 100grams lighter than Alloy on the Expert.
    Ill let you know the weight of my Expert when i pick her up tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgfish View Post
    Can't justify the money but needs must. Anyone have actual weights of the Expert Carbon? My Bike shop confirmed there is only 450grms between Sworks and Marathon in total weight. Also said wheels on Marathon are 100grams lighter than Alloy on the Expert.
    450g in frame weight?
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    23.8 on the evo r and 23.3 for marathon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgfish View Post
    Can't justify the money but needs must. Anyone have actual weights of the Expert Carbon? My Bike shop confirmed there is only 450grms between Sworks and Marathon in total weight. Also said wheels on Marathon are 100grams lighter than Alloy on the Expert.
    This was on bikerumor a while ago

    2013 Specialized Mountain Bikes – Complete Overview & Actual Weights - Bike Rumor

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    Wow, didn't realize it was so little. Some of us are just bling gluttons I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    23.8 on the evo r and 23.3 for marathon.
    You weighed a stock marathon at 23.3? Without pedals I would assume.
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    Yeah some lady at the shop bought medium marathon. The weight of my evo r was tubleless with XTR trail pedals and the marathon had no pedals with tubes.
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    Anyone have weight of stock Expert in medium? (Not Evo R)
    Last edited by bobgfish; 10-07-2012 at 04:06 AM.

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    Epic Marathon Large 24.18 lbs (out of the box, no pedals)

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    Weighed the only medium Epic Marathon in Switzerland today at 11.14 kg. This was with test pedals. Bottle cage and bar ends fitted. (and I assume tubes) I still don't know the weight of the Expert in medium.

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    So for those in the US who received their bike, how long ago did you order yours? I put in an order with my LBS in early November and the delivery date on mine just moved from mid-Feb to late March. The issue for me seems to be that I ordered an XL. According to the LBS there are plenty of L marathons in stock.

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    Well in Europe it took six weeks. There was only 25 mediums being brought in on that shipment with half presold (Dec 2012). They said other shipments would arrive but couldn't give further info. Anyway 25 medium Epic Marathons is not a whole lot for europe as a whole. (700 million people?) I would imagine they brought in less XL's. Good luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlpaquette View Post
    So for those in the US who received their bike, how long ago did you order yours? I put in an order with my LBS in early November and the delivery date on mine just moved from mid-Feb to late March. The issue for me seems to be that I ordered an XL. According to the LBS there are plenty of L marathons in stock.
    I placed an order for mine (Also an XL) on October 17'th, and it came in on November 29'th. This came as a shock to me, as I was originally told I probably wouldn't see it until late February to early March. I may have just gotten lucky and ended up with one of the first production runs of the XL frames. Hopefully you will end up getting yours sooner than you've been told!

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    Thanks for the reply. I am jonesing for my bike. I am really tempted to upgrade to an SWorks simply because it looks like they have it in stock. Waiting another 2 months just sounds like hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlpaquette View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I am jonesing for my bike. I am really tempted to upgrade to an SWorks simply because it looks like they have it in stock. Waiting another 2 months just sounds like hell.
    The question would be whether or not the extra $$$ is worth it to you over the course of owning the bike (no doubt over 2 months!). Where I live, the trails are typically mud during the day and frozen mud at night, so I spend a lot more time on the roadie this time of year. If you've got nothing else to ride, I can certainly understand your dilemma! However, if you've got anything to keep you rolling in the mean time, I would say wait it out and hope for early delivery - you won't be disappointed.

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    Yeah, I have a SWorks Stumpy HT so I can't complain too much but I just love my Epic. The harsh lesson is don't sell your old bike until your new bike is in hand. As for conditions here - I am in Texas so we get pretty much year round riding weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Epic Marathon Large 24.18 lbs (out of the box, no pedals)
    My large marathon with XX1 and no pedals was 22.12lbs
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    Got mine 2 weeks ago. Swapped tires for ground control 2.1 and the beeded up tubeless very easy. Running 26 rear 24 front no problems and bike weighs 24.3 lbs with xt pedals.These wheels feel really stiff but good and are worth the jump up from the EVO that I planned on buying. The color is not my favorite bud looks better with some mud on it. The bike Rocks

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    Yeah, now it seems I may be waiting till early April. I just don't know why they can't get production to even remotely meet demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlpaquette View Post
    Yeah, now it seems I may be waiting till early April. I just don't know why they can't get production to even remotely meet demand.
    Are you in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicFSR View Post
    Are you in the US?
    Yep, Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlpaquette View Post
    Yep, Texas.
    I'm in Toronto, Canada and had an epic EVO R on order, bike shop called me and said there was one 2 ordered for the entire country. So I had to go with the marathon. Looks like I won't be seeing it until August. So f****** ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicFSR View Post
    I'm in Toronto, Canada and had an epic EVO R on order, bike shop called me and said there was one 2 ordered for the entire country. So I had to go with the marathon. Looks like I won't be seeing it until August. So f****** ridiculous.
    Wow, that blows. I am hoping for march/april right now.

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    I absolutely love my Marathon -- perfect compliment to my S-Works HT. I struggled with the decision of the Epic vs. the Camber EVO R (and second-guessed it for the first month or so). I'm running it a little more plush than I typically would. I put some 2.2 Fast Tracks on it and just having fun this winter (we actually are having a winter this year) while taking a break from he HT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcsocal View Post
    I absolutely love my Marathon -- perfect compliment to my S-Works HT. I struggled with the decision of the Epic vs. the Camber EVO R (and second-guessed it for the first month or so). I'm running it a little more plush than I typically would. I put some 2.2 Fast Tracks on it and just having fun this winter (we actually are having a winter this year) while taking a break from he HT.
    Thanks for rubbing it in....just kidding. Can't wait till mine gets here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlpaquette View Post
    Thanks for rubbing it in....just kidding. Can't wait till mine gets here.
    Sorry man, not my intent. I'm a friend of my local LBS (means I spend too much money there) and grabbed the first one they got. It's an incredible bike.

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    No worries at all and I didn't take it that way. I too am tight with my LBS and ordered in November. The problem is that I ordered an XL and those seem to be real slow to be delivered. If I had wanted a L then I would be riding it already.

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    Makes sense. I'm on a L, which they had pretty quickly. Enjoy yours when you get it. New bikes are fun!

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    OMG, just took my other bike in for service and asked for an updated ETA - now I am being told late April!! WTF!!?!?!

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    I went for the regular Expert (white) mostly because I prefer Shimano over sram. Anyway the Alumi roval are only 100g heavier than the bead-less carbons on the marathon. My bike weighted (medium) 24.88 out the box. I swapped out the saddle (same only carbon rail I had) and seat-post (thomson Masterpiece) and tires (had a 2.2 s-works fast track for front and moved the 2.0 to the rear) and converted the bike to Tubeless. Now it weights 23.89 with spd pedals, and garmin mount installed. and cost me zero (I had everything from my last epic)
    I plan on getting some ESI grips, carbon S-works bar, and XTR shifters. I should still be well below the price of the Marathon and weight about 1lb less.
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