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    2012 Epic 29er Picture Thread

    POST YOURS!!!
    Here is my first 2012, I bought this because the S-works (sram) has been delayed until november apparently due to not enough pre-orders. Yet some people in other countries already have them. O well enough ranting



    Weight for now is 26.50 lbs with XTR 980 pedals (307g), edge 500/gsc 10 (95g), and a heavy bottle cage (36g)
    Mods are tubeless, Rocket Ron Front tire (moved fast trak to rear), ESI Grips, syntace F109 100mm, Ritchey superlogic seatpost, and S-works Chicane saddle

    Stock Weight Comparison (no pedals, dork disc or reflectors) -
    2011 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 27.38 lbs
    2012 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 26.31 lbs

    I know everyone will be interested in the wheels/tire weights
    Front Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Rotor - 1795
    Rear Wheel, Tire, Tube, Cassette, dork disc and Rotor - 2376
    Front Wheel - 985
    Rear Wheel, Cassette and dork disc - 1544
    S-works Fast Trak 29x2.0 - 525
    Renegade Control 29x1.95? - 550
    9mm Skewer - 58



    POST YOURS!!!

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    I'm super jealous. I love the scheme on this years Comp Carbon.

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    Dang, that it one good looking bike!

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    Mine will be here next week,can't barely wait now !! So that's an XL,it looks perfectly balanced, beautiful rig. I would have waited for an Sworks anyway. No Expert available either ??
    I'll add a pic as soon as possible

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    All I see on these forums is the comp carb. Is that the only one released? I ordered a regular epic comp 2012 and want to know if anyone has taken shipment yet?

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    Thanks for the kind words. In regards to the color it is awesome, it's more of a neon red. I guess the picture darkens it.

    I noticed their is now 2 layers of tape on the seat tube where the brain hose could potentially rub, I took a picture and will upload it later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Mine will be here next week,can't barely wait now !! So that's an XL,it looks perfectly balanced, beautiful rig. I would have waited for an Sworks anyway. No Expert available either ??
    I'll add a pic as soon as possible
    I am still waiting for the S-Works, but I needed something to fill the gap especially because it will be very cold in 2 months. The Expert wasn't available in XL.

    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    All I see on these forums is the comp carb. Is that the only one released? I ordered a regular epic comp 2012 and want to know if anyone has taken shipment yet?
    Comp, Comp Carbon and Expert are out. S-works are out in some countries, someone sent me a picture of one in Italy.

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    Does anyone know the average time Ill wait from ordering to getting my Comp? does specialized have them in stock ? is it just a matter of fulfilling the order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    Does anyone know the average time Ill wait from ordering to getting my Comp? does specialized have them in stock ? is it just a matter of fulfilling the order?
    I know there were 4 XL comps left a week ago, call your dealer and find out if your size is available. If it is it's a matter of how long it takes to ship, took 5 days to NY for mine.

    The brakes have taken a big step forward this year on the comp. Now you can adjust them so the brakes grab as soon as you pull the lever the slightest bit, this is especially nice for the rear. It makes them feel a lot more responsive.

    I did have one instance of chain suck on the first ride. I am growing to hate the 24/38 X7 rings, I don't think I will change them on this bike (unless I go 1x10) but I certainly will on the next one.

    Here is the pic

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    I have a 2012 epic comp 29er. Had it for about 4 or 5 weeks. I will post pictures tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    I know there were 4 XL comps left a week ago, call your dealer and find out if your size is available.
    4XL 's left where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    4XL 's left where?
    In the Specialized warehouse stock, I'd be willing to bet those 4 are gone by now. But that doesn't say another about other sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    In the Specialized warehouse stock, I'd be willing to bet those 4 are gone by now. But that doesn't say another about other sizes.
    I ordered mine in mid aug. And still have not got it yet! But I am in Canada so that might be why.... Thanks for the info

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    Anybody seen their 2012 s works epic frame/fork sets yet?I have a red/carbon/white med ordered.... Last ETA i was told is October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannonf600 View Post
    Anybody seen their 2012 s works epic frame/fork sets yet?I have a red/carbon/white med ordered.... Last ETA i was told is October.
    I haven't seen that color combo yet but the comp carbon looks pretty similar except the red will be darker. I have seen a picture of a 2012 Black/Red/Carbon.

    When did you order it? When were you given that ETA?
    I was told late September (when I ordered at the end of August) but now am being told they early November.

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    Ordered it 8/6/11 and i was told October for ETA.The guys on my team got their 2012 experts about 2 weeks ago.

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    Ordered my '11 S-Works Epic 29er frameset in July of 2010 and it didn't show up until January of '11.
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    2012 Epic Comp Size XL
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdqmach26 View Post
    2012 Epic Comp Size XL
    That color combo is sick! too bad i couldn't get it in Canada. Still waiting on mine... seems the snow will be here before my bike!

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    That color is awesome! Specialized did a great job with the schemes this year, with the exception of not making the Black/Red S-works 29er available in the states.

    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic View Post
    Ordered my '11 S-Works Epic 29er frameset in July of 2010 and it didn't show up until January of '11.
    Framesets always come out after complete bikes, also isn't yours one of the yellows ones? That takes even longer than the standard color complete bikes, as i'm sure you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannonf600 View Post
    Anybody seen their 2012 s works epic frame/fork sets yet?I have a red/carbon/white med ordered.... Last ETA i was told is October.
    Well, not sure where you are, but I am in the Toronto, Ontario area and we couldn't even order these until after the Spesh 2012 product launch in mid August. I have the same unit in a frameset order, but was told mid-January. So the October date seems agressive, but it's a slower delivery in Canada due to demand. I am doing my build over the winter. Tough waiting so long though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    That color combo is sick! too bad i couldn't get it in Canada. Still waiting on mine... seems the snow will be here before my bike!
    Where about's are you in Canada? As a fellow Canadian with a frameset of my own incoming, it would be nice to know what you've been told . I trust my dealer and I am building up my parts bin to put things together in January. I have a sub 22lb spec on an S-Works that I could only get in the Red/White/Carbon colour. No mat black/yellow available apparently, but like the red better anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister View Post
    Well, not sure where you are, but I am in the Toronto, Ontario area and we couldn't even order these until after the Spesh 2012 product launch in mid August.
    Do you know if any 2012s have made it to TO Like the comp or carbon

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    Do you know if any 2012s have made it to TO Like the comp or carbon
    I don't think so...I buy my bikes from Gears in Mississauga and they are one of the largest Spesh dealers in Canada. When I put the order on my S-Works 29er frameset, it was apparently the first one in the country ordered. And I do trust them as I have spent a small fortune there on bikes and they have been good to me the past few years. As I mentioned, they only committed to a mid January delivery on the frameset and joked with me not to bug them about it until at least Christmas.

    I actually will be dropping in there in the next couple of weeks and will have a look around and ask some questions too. Where did you buy from in TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister View Post

    I actually will be dropping in there in the next couple of weeks and will have a look around and ask some questions too. Where did you buy from in TO?

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    Out in Ajax... Ordered from impala in whitby. They said that it would be late sept. /oct. But I have not seen any at all in Canada yet so I am getting nervous cus I want to ride it before winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post
    Out in Ajax... Ordered from impala in whitby. They said that it would be late sept. /oct. But I have not seen any at all in Canada yet so I am getting nervous cus I want to ride it before winter.
    Okay, I know Impala. Don't know anyone there specifically, but know of the shop. Surprising to hear of late September or October as I had done some research into US supply before buying here in an effort to have even a 2011 before season's end. Even the US they were suggesting mid October. And I deal directly with one of the owners at Gears and we were exchanging emails while she was at the Spesh product launch. I hate to be negative, but I would be very surprised if it shows up before the end of our season here. Awesome if you get it, but I will be pissed if mine shows up before season's end when I don't have all the parts for it. Do you mind sharing what you paid for it? If not, no worries!
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    I think the comp will be out before your s-works. Paid 3300.

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    I finally found a picture of the frame!!!!!

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    Interesting that it has the alloy steerer.
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    I was thinking the same thing. What makes it even more interesting is it also has alloy steerer and the top mount brain knob. I'm sure we won't see that on production bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. What makes it even more interesting is it also has alloy steerer and the top mount brain knob. I'm sure we won't see that on production bikes.
    I rode the Sworks Hardtail demo bike at mbo and it had the top mount brain knob. IIRC the demo tech said that is what they are going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly Rod View Post
    I rode the Sworks Hardtail demo bike at mbo and it had the top mount brain knob. IIRC the demo tech said that is what they are going to.
    I know that but it is only supposed to be with the carbon crowns/steerers which are on s-works. The expert has a SID but it doesn't have the top mounted adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    I finally found a picture of the frame!!!!!
    There were many pictures available of the frameset only option. I find it interesting that the top tube at the seat post has a solid triangle, where most pics out there have a hole. Not sure what the deal is there or if it is relevant in any way, but it would seem strange that there are multiple options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister View Post
    There were many pictures available of the frameset only option. I find it interesting that the top tube at the seat post has a solid triangle, where most pics out there have a hole. Not sure what the deal is there or if it is relevant in any way, but it would seem strange that there are multiple options.
    Can you show me one of these other pictures?
    S and M don't have gussets, L and XL do

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    The S-Works WILL have the carbon crown and steerer. It will also have top-mounted Brain Fade. Just to put that to rest.
    Inventory as of a minute ago at Specialized is zero Epic Expert 29ers in any size, and eta is pessimistic at about late November / early December. There are 16 Comp Carbon 29ers in XL, and plenty of M's and L's.
    We have one M and one L Epic Expert at the concept store here in Fort Collins.
    They also have -drum roll please- a 2012 S-WORKS Epic 29er. They just got it and it's not even built yet. No others on the horizon, but as a concept store they get preferential treatment. It is gonna kill me to see it in the flesh - it's a large and so am I...

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    Do you know if it is the Sram or XTR version? Go make them build it!!!

    If the 16 Comp Carbon 29ers in XL is directed towards what I said earlier, I said Comp not comp carbon because the person said they were waiting for a comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adultswim View Post
    There are 16 Comp Carbon 29ers in XL, and plenty of M's and L's.
    As I thought.... there seems to be way more comp carbons around then Just regular comps. Grrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Can you show me one of these other pictures?
    S and M don't have gussets, L and XL do
    This pic is right from there website...

    Specialized Bicycle Components : S-Works Epic Carbon 29 Frameset

    Is the one I am patiently waiting to arrive in mid-January.
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    You said their are many pictures available...where are they? The ones from the specialized.com make the colors look different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    You said their are many pictures available...where are they? The ones from the specialized.com make the colors look different.
    There's also these, which I am sure you've seen...

    2012s Have Landed

    Not sure what else you are after...
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    Those are the same pictures as specialized.com, you said," There were many pictures available of the frameset only option" I was/am asking where they are? can you post them?

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    There are pictures of the framesets on that link...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dp-psAfoUJc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    Great video,thanks for sharing.

    So that is Interbike....in Las Vegas ?? I thought they used to be at Sands Expo/Venetian,not somewhere in the desert. Pretty cool !!

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    Beautiful...Thanks for finding and sharing. I especially like the pedals.
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    I may need to change my pants...Supposed to be one of the few available before November

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    I may need to change my pants...Supposed to be one of the few available before November
    lol. 10gs for a bike... Why show it off with 3$ pedals!?

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    -12 hours to pick up my 2012 Expert...I won't get much sleep tonight I guess.

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    I went by one of my local Specialized dealers to see the 2012 Epics in person. 2012 Epic carbon comp 29ers were priced at $4000.00. I dont recall what the epic comp 29ers were priced at.($3200.00?) Leftover 2011 Epic comp 29ers were at $2800.00 before any price negotiation. First impression of the new models was that I liked the brake rotors but everything else was less impressive. Lower level fork, same heavy crankset with bash instead of big ring, another wheelset (although better) that would be the first on my list to replace. I think that the 2011 leftover Epics are a great buy for those who can still find one. Having not ridden a 2012, I wonder if the new 2012 shock tuning is any better than a '11. Just my first impression of the new Epic Comp 29ers. Am I missing something that say ditch your 2011 and rush out and buy a 2012?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    I may need to change my pants...Supposed to be one of the few available before November
    I take it that one's a large and you need an XL, what a shame. I hope your pants wash up OK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcpeddler View Post
    I went by one of my local Specialized dealers to see the 2012 Epics in person. 2012 Epic carbon comp 29ers were priced at $4000.00. I dont recall what the epic comp 29ers were priced at.($3200.00?) Leftover 2011 Epic comp 29ers were at $2800.00 before any price negotiation. First impression of the new models was that I liked the brake rotors but everything else was less impressive. Lower level fork, same heavy crankset with bash instead of big ring, another wheelset (although better) that would be the first on my list to replace. I think that the 2011 leftover Epics are a great buy for those who can still find one. Having not ridden a 2012, I wonder if the new 2012 shock tuning is any better than a '11. Just my first impression of the new Epic Comp 29ers. Am I missing something that say ditch your 2011 and rush out and buy a 2012?
    If you're asking me, that was not my situation. Long story short I got injured in july, was told i'd be out until atleast Oct, '12 experts were coming out and my shop told me late Sep for the s-works, sold my '11 to get the most $ out of it because it was still the current model year figuring i'd get the s-works in sep. I was able to ride again sooner than expected but no bike, so I bought one to hold me over.

    It will be for sale when my other bike is in unless i decide to put studded tires on it and sell it in the spring

    In regards to the '12 shock tuning, I do notice a slight difference in small bump compliance and no noise from the brain. Then again i've been off the bike for 2.5 months and the sbc could just be the brain on a slightly different setting.

    A little birdie told me your getting a comp carbon, enjoy it

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    No GTR, not pointed at you just my general observations on the new 12's.Hope that you are doing better though. I think most of the upgrading went into other models like the Camber, FSR, etc... I really didn't expect much for Epics this year. The new wheelset does look like an improvment. I am not getting a new Epic but sure wish I had not sold my singlespeed. I need to get the vaccine for SS fever.

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    Just assembled. She needs another couple of tune ups and she's ready to go.

    Like : everything !! tried a few spins in the garage,this baby accelerates like a 26 HT..amazing. Very light,I was not expecting this feather like weight...and no tubeless yet !!!

    Dislike : Sram shifters gets a bit in the way with my thumbs,tried different positions but no success so far,maybe I should just get used to it. Renegade tyre...is this some kind of joke ?? I'm gonna get a flat at the first ride,period. Fast Track on the front wheel seems better but I'm sick of these paper like thin Specy's tyres,I'm ordering Conti Race Kings as I'm typing.
    Told wife not to wait for me after work tonight,I'll spend a couple if hours cleaning up the mess in the garage,going tubeless and inspect bike's every single square inch

    Brain only has 6 clicks,a major difference compared to the one on my Stumpy (13 clicks). Front Brain has a huge amount of clicks...at least 30 and yes,the ubiquitous "clunk" sound it's still there,not as loud as on a Reba but still there. Nothing wrong with that,I like the idea of hearing the Brain doint it's job. Same story on the rebound....huuuuge amount of clicks..lost the count after 24..I guess it goes well beyond 30. I'll sure have a lot of homeworks tonight.

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    Just got an email from specialized Canada saying that the regular comp will not be in Canada until December!

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    Very nice looking bike. Be sure to give us a first ride report and post your settings up when you have it dialled. I've just over a month to wait for mine.

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    Ok maiden ride with my new Epic. I actually find it a bit weird to call it an Epic since the concept of "it's a 29 " comes long before the Epic one. Before I'll get used to it I can see my mind referring to her as " my 29er".

    I should start with the bottom line first : I'm extremely satisfied.

    I'm not saying this bike wins over a 26,I would say it's just a different way to intend monutainbiking. I would say that the 29 is more of a roadish bike with fat wheels rather than a mountainbike. I'm glad I still have the Stumpy for those rocky and nervous days when speed it's not an issue and the mood takes you to work on the trails and let the suspensions breath in every single rock. For the way I do intend the bike anyway ( pedal,fast,up and down those smoot hills) the 29 IS the way to go IMHO. That's why my Lapierre X control is now on the market.
    In order to reach the trails I have to ride a 2 km downhill road transfer. I was expecting to take off but nothing happened, the bike picked up speed but not very differently than my other 2 bikes. Then I've reached the trails and everything changed. I don't think we need to talk about speed and momentum,we all know about that,I'd rather say I've been impressed about how the bike turns. If I'm at speed with my 26 I'd better grab those brakes before starting to turn...this bike just get there with no brake needs.
    Talking about stability ?? I was flying down a trail when suddendly a car popped out behind a curb ( it's still tourist season here) and....panic !! Panic ?? No panic...touched the brakes,balanced my body and the bike brought me around the oncoming car in total safety, felt like I was on tracks !!!
    Another point worth talking about is comfort. It's been a 2 hours very hot ride..I felt my body working in a mor efficient way...I felt my upper back working better and my side abs muscles ( don't know the term in english) suddendly woke up. I feel like I can do a more complete "workout" with this bike.
    This is pretty much it,I'm very satisfied,take it from someone that used to bash a lot about 29ers. Again,this bike will not wipe out the 26 market and probably will never win a beauty contest,but when it comes to function over form it's difficult to beat a 29er.
    And the Brain really works in here...not halfway there like on the Stumpy...gotta love that

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    Dislike : Sram shifters gets a bit in the way with my thumbs,tried different positions but no success so far,maybe I should just get used to it.
    The bike's looking good.

    If the SRAM trigger shifters are too close to your thumbs swap the brake and shifter mounts around so that the shifter brackets are inboard of the brake levers. That's how I have my SRAM trigger shifters setup.

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    I've had this 2012 Epic Comp, since early August. It was a new demo issued to my LBS, and they agreed to sell it to me. Added carbon bars, 185 disc to front, Sram XX crankset and built an Arch wheel w/ King 12 x 142 rear hub. Have done a couple or races, including Capitol Forest 50, and several 35-40 mile rides, very satisfied.
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    I need to get better pics but here is one.

    In all seriousness....this is the best bike I have ever ridden!


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    I have had a 2012 S Works Epic 29er Frameset on order now for 6 weeks... in size medium, The specialized rep called my LBS today to say that they are expecting first shipment in on oct 17th and they should receive the frameset oct 21st or 24th.... so well see... I heard prom a pro rider in texas that a couple of the specialized team guys have them already....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Ok maiden ride with my new Epic. I actually find it a bit weird to call it an Epic since the concept of "it's a 29 " comes long before the Epic one. Before I'll get used to it I can see my mind referring to her as " my 29er".

    I should start with the bottom line first : I'm extremely satisfied.

    I'm not saying this bike wins over a 26,I would say it's just a different way to intend monutainbiking. I would say that the 29 is more of a roadish bike with fat wheels rather than a mountainbike. I'm glad I still have the Stumpy for those rocky and nervous days when speed it's not an issue and the mood takes you to work on the trails and let the suspensions breath in every single rock. For the way I do intend the bike anyway ( pedal,fast,up and down those smoot hills) the 29 IS the way to go IMHO. That's why my Lapierre X control is now on the market.
    In order to reach the trails I have to ride a 2 km downhill road transfer. I was expecting to take off but nothing happened, the bike picked up speed but not very differently than my other 2 bikes. Then I've reached the trails and everything changed. I don't think we need to talk about speed and momentum,we all know about that,I'd rather say I've been impressed about how the bike turns. If I'm at speed with my 26 I'd better grab those brakes before starting to turn...this bike just get there with no brake needs.
    Talking about stability ?? I was flying down a trail when suddendly a car popped out behind a curb ( it's still tourist season here) and....panic !! Panic ?? No panic...touched the brakes,balanced my body and the bike brought me around the oncoming car in total safety, felt like I was on tracks !!!
    Another point worth talking about is comfort. It's been a 2 hours very hot ride..I felt my body working in a mor efficient way...I felt my upper back working better and my side abs muscles ( don't know the term in english) suddendly woke up. I feel like I can do a more complete "workout" with this bike.
    This is pretty much it,I'm very satisfied,take it from someone that used to bash a lot about 29ers. Again,this bike will not wipe out the 26 market and probably will never win a beauty contest,but when it comes to function over form it's difficult to beat a 29er.
    And the Brain really works in here...not halfway there like on the Stumpy...gotta love that

    This pretty much sums up everything that is great about an Epic 29r

    I have just gotten a 2012 Expert EVO R 29 and am in love!

    It's over 1.5kg lighter than my 2011 Comp Carbon 29r and only AU$1,000 more at retail pricing

    Once I get enough posts, I'll put up some pics, it's currently at 10.97kg ready to race (and win ) with just a couple of changes from stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    POST YOURS!!!
    Here is my first 2012, I bought this because the S-works (sram) has been delayed until november apparently due to not enough pre-orders. Yet some people in other countries already have them. O well enough ranting



    Weight for now is 26.50 lbs with XTR 980 pedals (307g), edge 500/gsc 10 (95g), and a heavy bottle cage (36g)
    Mods are tubeless, Rocket Ron Front tire (moved fast trak to rear), ESI Grips, syntace F109 100mm, Ritchey superlogic seatpost, and S-works Chicane saddle

    Stock Weight Comparison (no pedals, dork disc or reflectors) -
    2011 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 27.38 lbs
    2012 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 26.31 lbs

    I know everyone will be interested in the wheels/tire weights
    Front Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Rotor - 1795
    Rear Wheel, Tire, Tube, Cassette, dork disc and Rotor - 2376
    Front Wheel - 985
    Rear Wheel, Cassette and dork disc - 1544
    S-works Fast Trak 29x2.0 - 525
    Renegade Control 29x1.95? - 550
    9mm Skewer - 58



    POST YOURS!!!
    I'm kind of in the same boat, I wanted to get an Expert Carbon, but was told not tell February of 2012. Where I can get a comp by the end of the month. I'm looking to upgrade the Wheels right away, is there a noticeable drag on the stock wheels? Also does the Comp reba have a brain , or a remote lockout? or do I have to reach down to lock it out? and the custom crankset what would you compare it to X7, X9 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1208lv View Post
    I'm kind of in the same boat, I wanted to get an Expert Carbon, but was told not tell February of 2012. Where I can get a comp by the end of the month. I'm looking to upgrade the Wheels right away, is there a noticeable drag on the stock wheels? Also does the Comp reba have a brain , or a remote lockout? or do I have to reach down to lock it out? and the custom crankset what would you compare it to X7, X9 ?

    The stock wheels are heavy, 2150ish grams.
    Fork doesn't have a brain, you have you reach if you want to lock it.
    The arms on the X7 and X9 cranks on srams website look the same, last years bike was definitely a X7 crank.

    If you can ride all winter (where you live) i'd say get the comp, if you can't ride all winter i'd say wait for the expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    The stock wheels are heavy, 2150ish grams.
    Fork doesn't have a brain, you have you reach if you want to lock it.
    The arms on the X7 and X9 cranks on srams website look the same, last years bike was definitely a X7 crank.

    If you can ride all winter (where you live) i'd say get the comp, if you can't ride all winter i'd say wait for the expert.
    I can ride all year long here in the desert, I have another bike its a SS tho. I already have to race a 24hr event the end of the month on my SS. The price difference is 1400$ I can get the better wheels for 700$ and spend the rest on a XO drive train if I get the Comp. If I get the Expert in Feb, I wont upgrade anything. (except seat and post)
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny and the jets View Post
    This pretty much sums up everything that is great about an Epic 29r

    I have just gotten a 2012 Expert EVO R 29 and am in love!

    It's over 1.5kg lighter than my 2011 Comp Carbon 29r and only AU$1,000 more at retail pricing

    Once I get enough posts, I'll put up some pics, it's currently at 10.97kg ready to race (and win ) with just a couple of changes from stock


    Any luck with photos or ride report?? I'm thinking of ordering the 2012 EVO R 29 soon as well. Your conversion equals ~24.18 pounds. What size is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    The stock wheels are heavy, 2150ish grams.
    Fork doesn't have a brain, you have you reach if you want to lock it.
    The arms on the X7 and X9 cranks on srams website look the same, last years bike was definitely a X7 crank.

    If you can ride all winter (where you live) i'd say get the comp, if you can't ride all winter i'd say wait for the expert.
    I finally managed to have a test ride on a 2012 Epic Comp carbon 29er today. It was brand new from the showroom and a size medium, rather than the large I'd normally ride.

    The stock back wheel wasn't built very well. It buckled badly almost straight away so I ended up riding around with a wobbly wheel for an hour. What's going on with the Specialized Renegade rear tyre fitted as stock too? It's virtually a slick tyre. Useless on anything more than a dry cycle track.

    I was impressed with the riding experience of the 29er Epic. Despite being quite heavy the bike pedalled well on the flat. The improvement over my 2010 26" Epic Marathon carbon on tarmac was quite noticeable. I didn't have a computer on the bike but it felt fast. I could have used a bigger top gear.

    It climbed well too, although the gear ratios weren't ideal. With the 29" wheels I'd have liked something lower than the 24x36 bottom gear. I didn't go up any seriously steep hills but even so found myself in bottom gear a few times. I'd much rather have a 22T granny ring on a triple chainset than the standard 2x10 24T inner chainring that comes with the bike. With the stock gearing I'm not convinced I'd be able to make it up some of the steepest hills.

    Offroad the bike was great in a straight line. There are quite a few bridleways round here which are very bumpy and pitted from all the horses. Your speed is limited by the pounding you get. The surface is like washboard and hammers you. On my 26" Epic it's hard work but the 29er Epic rolled over it much better and was clearly quicker on that sort of surface. It was still bumpy (hardly a "magic carpet ride") but I was going faster than I have in the past on the same bridleway which was good. Mud clearance is much more limited than on the 26" Epic but I didn't go anywhere muddy today (normal clothes, showroom bike and the impractical rear tyre wouldn't handle it anyway).

    When it comes to handling and cornering it wasn't quite as convincing. I didn't have a great feel for the front end. That could have been down to the bike being too small, or the Rock Shox Reba fork and tyre pressures not being setup perfectly, but it seemed as though the front wanted to push and wash out a bit easily, especially in low speed tight corners. It seemed to be quite hard to lift the front end over obstacles as well. A lot of that is just going to be about getting used to the bike of course.

    Something else to note is that the 142x12 rear axle on the 2012 Epic Comp carbon 29er appears to thread directly into the aluminium dropout itself, instead of using an insert. If that thread strips it could be expensive to repair.

    It was interesting to actually get to try an Epic 29er out. I'm seriously thinking about getting one.

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    2012 Epics look sick! Does anyone know the weight difference between the 2011 and the 2012 Epic 29 Aluminum models?

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    The Epic 29er doesn't do as well in situations where you're faced with multiple tight corners. It's a revelation in rocky terrain, a very capable trail bike, but I prefer the 26er Epic for some situations. That could just be my riding style, so all disclaimers apply.

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    Can't wait to get her dirty...

    S-Works 29er XTR.... stock, except ESI Chunky Grips.

    I am about to swap chainrings to XX (26/39) hoping I don't have a problem with 13 tooth gap and XTR FD/
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    Lovely. My XTR version should be with me in a couple of weeks subject to any shipping delays. I'll be swapping the chainrings as well along with seat post, going tubeless and grips. I'll also swap the saddle to a toupe pro, should get it below 22lbs.

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    Did the tubeless conversion today... Needed some extra tape but otherwise no dramas. Seat post I'll wait and see but probably stick a masterpiece in there.

    So glad I went XTR, worth it for the brakes alone!

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    Toby the XTR version looks amazing. Personally I like it more than the Red/Black/White
    Enjoy it!

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    Yeah, the black looks sick compared to the red/blk/white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    POST YOURS!!!
    Here is my first 2012, I bought this because the S-works (sram) has been delayed until november apparently due to not enough pre-orders. Yet some people in other countries already have them. O well enough ranting

    Weight for now is 26.50 lbs with XTR 980 pedals (307g), edge 500/gsc 10 (95g), and a heavy bottle cage (36g)
    Mods are tubeless, Rocket Ron Front tire (moved fast trak to rear), ESI Grips, syntace F109 100mm, Ritchey superlogic seatpost, and S-works Chicane saddle

    Stock Weight Comparison (no pedals, dork disc or reflectors) -
    2011 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 27.38 lbs
    2012 Comp Carbon 29er (XL) 26.31 lbs

    I know everyone will be interested in the wheels/tire weights
    Front Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Rotor - 1795
    Rear Wheel, Tire, Tube, Cassette, dork disc and Rotor - 2376
    Front Wheel - 985
    Rear Wheel, Cassette and dork disc - 1544
    S-works Fast Trak 29x2.0 - 525
    Renegade Control 29x1.95? - 550
    9mm Skewer - 58



    POST YOURS!!!
    Nice info on the 2012 Comp Carbon 29er. I will order one soon. I really like the 2012 colors. How are the brakes behaving? I will change the cockpit immediately for Syntace (thinking about the P6 Hiflex seatpost to), and the wheels (Hope pro2 or DT 240s hubs with Crest rims). I am also considering an X9 26-39 crankset instead of the s1250 that comes standard. In the future I will probably change the brakes for the new Hope ones with the nice black/green finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walliebal View Post
    Nice info on the 2012 Comp Carbon 29er... How are the brakes behaving?...
    The were perfect straight out of the box, no rotor rub and great power. The brakes on my S-works have been nothing but trouble, rear rotor rubs and the front shakes under hard braking.

    The new front rotor should be in today. My plan is to clean the rear rotor, sand the pads, and bleed the brakes (myself this time). Then i'll bed them, if that doesn't fix them i'll be making a change over the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N View Post
    Lovely. My XTR version should be with me in a couple of weeks subject to any shipping delays. I'll be swapping the chainrings as well along with seat post, going tubeless and grips. I'll also swap the saddle to a toupe pro, should get it below 22lbs.

    Mine weighs 10.3kg with XT pedals and Tacx cage... New XTR pedals on the way and maybe a Masterpiece.

    Still I am happy with the weight. Lost 2.5kg over my old Cannondale Rush race bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobyinsydney View Post
    Mine weighs 10.3kg with XT pedals and Tacx cage... New XTR pedals on the way and maybe a Masterpiece.

    Still I am happy with the weight. Lost 2.5kg over my old Cannondale Rush race bike!
    May the beast bring you heaps of riding joy mate! Let us know how you find it.

    Well done for being honest about the weight of your machine Toby. 10.3 is damn light for a 29er dually!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post

    well done for being honest about the weight of your machine toby.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    The were perfect straight out of the box, no rotor rub and great power. The brakes on my S-works have been nothing but trouble, rear rotor rubs and the front shakes under hard braking.
    Good to read. I was a little worried about the Avid brakes. I hear and read a lot of bad experiences with Avid brakes. I am only used to Hope brakes which are very reliable and easy to maintain.

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    Again good to see an honest weight posted. To have the bike at 22.7lbs with pedals that weigh 3/4 lb that is good going for a large bike, especially if you have sone sealant in the tyres. The masterpiece will drop about 100g, you can also cheaply save a few more grams. Chainstay protector for a stick on carbon/ leather type will save you about 50g, front QR another 30g for a KCNC one. A new saddle would cost more but save about 50g but these are only worth it if you care about the extra 1/2lb or so.
    Now I want to hear of your first ride report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    @WR304

    The Epic 29er doesn't do as well in situations where you're faced with multiple tight corners. It's a revelation in rocky terrain, a very capable trail bike, but I prefer the 26er Epic for some situations. That could just be my riding style, so all disclaimers apply.
    I've been back riding my own 26" 2010 Epic for the last few days, including the route I did on the 2012 Epic 29er. The bends where I was struggling with the front end on the Epic 29er just take a gentle pressure on the bars of the 26" 2010 Epic to turn without any drama or difficulty. It's so sorted and nimble in comparison that I'm a bit worried going with a 2012 Epic 29er might not be the right choice.

    This quote I saw about testing bikes sums up my feelings at the moment:

    "You really can tell straight away if the bike is right for you when you ride it. Trust me I have bought a couple where I thought "I'll get used to it" or "It must be me". They never get better."

    A size large Epic 29er upgraded with a Fox F100 Terralogic fork might handle better but that means spending the money on it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR304 View Post
    I've been back riding my own 26" 2010 Epic for the last few days, including the route I did on the 2012 Epic 29er. The bends where I was struggling with the front end on the Epic 29er just take a gentle pressure on the bars of the 26" 2010 Epic to turn without any drama or difficulty. It's so sorted and nimble in comparison that I'm a bit worried going with a 2012 Epic 29er might not be the right choice.

    This quote I saw about testing bikes sums up my feelings at the moment:

    "You really can tell straight away if the bike is right for you when you ride it. Trust me I have bought a couple where I thought "I'll get used to it" or "It must be me". They never get better."

    A size large Epic 29er upgraded with a Fox F100 Terralogic fork might handle better but that means spending the money on it first.
    I'm going to try lowering the bar by installing a stem with a -12 or -15 rise. Hopefully more weight over the front will change the weight distribution and the handling of the 29er in those situations. My 29er HT Stumpjumper is awesome in the tight stuff, but it has a shorter wheelbase, and lower front end.

    The Reba s29 is OK. It bobs too much when its active, but the stiffness is fine, and I've raced some rough courses with it.

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    For you guys that have the 2012 Epic comp carbon and aluminum....Are you guys satisfied with the choice of the aluminum or the carbon?? This is the bike i will be buying just trying to figure out to go carbon or aluminum..If i go aluminum i will have enough money to buy a good wheel set and maybe two more minor upgrades..If i go carbon i will not be able to do any upgrades at all for a while...This will be the bike i ride for at least 2 years so let me here your thoughts on this....Thanks

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    If I was in your situation i'd get the alloy and upgrade the wheels.

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    My advice would be to put your money on the best frame you can afford. Upgrade the wheels later.

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    I will get the carbon because my LBS agreed to let me trade in my old stumpy HT for the difference in price. So I will get the carbon for the alu price. My stumpy is well specced though (Hope brakes and wheels, all XT, Reba fork). This way I will still save me some money for a wheel-upgrade

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    Folks any valid alternative to the 29 ' 'Renegarde tire ? I like the fast roll feeling but that thing gets burned out in 2 weeks. I wish I could stay with another Spesh tire but it seems not too many alternatives are available. Do I have to give up to the Race King 2.2 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Folks any valid alternative to the 29 ' 'Renegarde tire ? I like the fast roll feeling but that thing gets burned out in 2 weeks. I wish I could stay with another Spesh tire but it seems not too many alternatives are available. Do I have to give up to the Race King 2.2 ?
    Schwalbe Racing Ralph's...One of the best all around tires you will find. Pricey, not a super long shelf life either, but longer than what you're suggesting. And depending on the terrain you're riding, a Rocket Ron front, Racing Ralph rear is a fantastic combo!
    A bad day on the bike is better than a good day doing anything else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister View Post
    Schwalbe Racing Ralph's...One of the best all around tires you will find. Pricey, not a super long shelf life either, but longer than what you're suggesting. And depending on the terrain you're riding, a Rocket Ron front, Racing Ralph rear is a fantastic combo!
    I'm loving my Fast Track in the front actually,it really saved my @ss at speed in some sandy cornering. Yeah I was looking at this Racing Ralph actually,too bad is doesn't come in 1.95...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    I'm loving my Fast Track in the front actually,it really saved my @ss at speed in some sandy cornering. Yeah I was looking at this Racing Ralph actually,too bad is doesn't come in 1.95...
    Ah, 1.95 is overkill on the skinniness. They have a 2.1 and even with that, I have some long time 29er buds that have since gone to the 2.25 based on the better traction over weight savings. The Rocket Ron on the front is fantastic when it's tacky and doesn't slow you down at all in the dry hardpack either. I am going to have a look at the Fast Trak too though as I can likely get the spesh tire cheaper than the Schwalbe and I have to still get wheels and tires for when the frame arrives.
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    I've rode Renegades for the past year and love them, but the new 2012 Fast Trak is what I will start out with on the front next year.
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    The Renegade rolls beautifully but doesn't do well in loose over hard, or wet situations. Hard braking is also challenging. Fantastic XC marathon tyre.

    The Fast Trak LK, Racing Ralph, and Maxxis Ikon are alternatives that will not roll as well but will play nicer in more challenging conditions.

    EDIT: The 2012 S-Works Fast Trak 29 x 2.2 is fantastic for a front tyre.
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    One month into my 2012 Epic Expert and thinking about some upgrades. I was considering Sworks handle bar and seatpost,my LBS said it's not worth the money for this just being a cosmetic upgrade (this is when you know you're dealing with a LBS you want to hold on to... ) Any suggestion ? I will soon replace the Phenom saddle with a little heavier Henge one,maybe those carbon fiber upgrades may make sense.....

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    Isn't this suppose to be a picture thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    One month into my 2012 Epic Expert and thinking about some upgrades. I was considering Sworks handle bar and seatpost,my LBS said it's not worth the money for this just being a cosmetic upgrade (this is when you know you're dealing with a LBS you want to hold on to... ) Any suggestion ? I will soon replace the Phenom saddle with a little heavier Henge one,maybe those carbon fiber upgrades may make sense.....
    I've upgraded my Epic, and I haven't even got it yet. lol (been buying parts here and there while I wait..
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    Quote Originally Posted by j_shoe99 View Post
    Any luck with photos or ride report?? I'm thinking of ordering the 2012 EVO R 29 soon as well. Your conversion equals ~24.18 pounds. What size is that?
    I'm on a Large, I've got XTR pedals, running tubeless with the stock Renegades, a Ritchey Superlogic Seatpost (saved 100 grams over the stock one!) and a Blackspire Monoveloce 36 chainring, S-Works Carbon Rib Cage and a PRO SX 4 computer on it.

    Will get some photos up soon

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    What Q-Factor XX cranks are you guys going with? And is it a tight fit? Close to Chainstay? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    One month into my 2012 Epic Expert and thinking about some upgrades. I was considering Sworks handle bar and seatpost,my LBS said it's not worth the money for this just being a cosmetic upgrade (this is when you know you're dealing with a LBS you want to hold on to... ) Any suggestion ? I will soon replace the Phenom saddle with a little heavier Henge one,maybe those carbon fiber upgrades may make sense.....
    Thats bull. A carbon bar and seatpost is not just a cosmetic upgrade. That's like saying the difference between an s-works epic frame and an epic comp is cosmetic. A carbon bar will most importantly drop weight on you're bike. Carbon also "gives" more then aluminum so it will make an already great ride even that much more plush...yes this can be felt on a full suspension bike.

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