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    2011 Stumpy elite, Enduro expert

    I know you all talked about this adnuasiem...

    but I'm stuck between them both and can't decide.

    The Stumpy climbs great...not as confident as the Enduro
    The Enduro climbs with effort...decndes great
    Stumpy is faster off the start but the Enduro is no slacker...

    I ride rooty rocky technical terrain in Florida (alafia Santos etc park etc)
    nomajor downhills...

    This will be my everyday rider for every type of terrain single track etc. I'm not taking any major drops 2ft at best.
    I'm just perplexed and can't decide...

    and I have demoed them both on local terrain...

    any suggestions would be helpfull since I have to put my order for the Stumpy Elite this week...

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    asked that question at the LBS (epic vs. sj vs. enduro) about a week ago. I explained my typical use/desire (xc, trails, descents but not doing 4' drops or anything crazy) and we landed on the stumpy as the best all around for me. i was also going for a 29er - that limited me somewhat (epic vs. sj). Ordered the stumpy fsr expert.

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    I would go with the Stumpy. The Enduro would be alot of bike for the riding you do. Plus you could save $1,200.
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    Stumpy all the way. Seems like you're trying to buy into the Enduro 'lifestyle' whearas the stumpy would be far more suited to 95% riding you do...maybe more?

    We were all riding 2 ft drops on 120mm not long ago....and still loving it

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    I have been riding 4inch travel Heckler since 98' and yes I have done some chair lift rides with it... I just wanted to get something more comfortable...
    The Tim Allen "home improvement " part of me wanted the Enduro...
    I believe I will be ordering my Stumpy this week!!

    Thanks for the replies I just needed some commmon sense knocked back into me!!

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    stumpy EVO?

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    I would love the Stumpy Evo...out of price range. The Enduro 2010 Expert is on closeout $2800 that was the tempting part.
    I think the Stumpy elite will do just fine..Evo would be nice

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    Get a stumpy and slowly "EVO" it out.

    I owned a 2010 Sutmpy and am going to order a 2011 Enduro next week. I currently have an 07 Enduro SL.

    90% of my riding is on the Stumpy and only use the Enduro(new or old) for the more burly trails. I have hit 3 to 4 foot drop on the stumpy with no problem. The only time I really miss my Enduro is in the rock and root gardens.

    If i was to have only one bike it would be a stumpy that I would then EVO out.
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    @toytech64 I read in another post (enduro vs nomad) your neighbor is an engineer for Specialized? if he could only have one bike to ride it all...lived in Fl.(some mtn. bike vacations out of fl as well) which one would he buy? stumpy or enduro... ? still on the fence.

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    The best thing is to try and ride both and make up your mind. Do you ride up only to blast the down - Enduro. Do you like fast flowly trails with a sprinkle of techinal here and there - Stumpy. I can go on and on, you have to chose. I would chose the Enduro right night, but I live in Santa cruz with lots of good techinal riding. If i did not have the mountains arounf me I would chose the stumpy.

    PS my friend that works for specialized does not have to chose, he gets to demo what ever he likes
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    Thank's toytech64. I have demoed both on local trails. I liked both very much...that's why it's hard to choose.
    I have met people out on the trails some have the stumpy and want the enduro and vise versa...the trail i do ride most of the time is technical with roots and rocks...the climbs are very rooty and rocky aswell.
    my current bike hurts my back...that's why I thought the Enduro's geo would be great.But the Stumpy felt good as well and definately climb better.
    The giant reign is in between the 2...but I think the stumpy to be a better bike.
    the locals bikes are a mixture of long travel bikes to the super light xc bikes. The person I ride with has a 6inch travel sanction 1.
    I will be doing to trips to NC and other states...it comes down to this since I can only have one...I need a swiss army knife sort of bike that can do everything..
    and yes I know I am the only that can make that choice for myself...just trying to get enough info to try to make a clear choice. Thanks.

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    This thread definitely helped me decide. Stumpy it is. No time soon though, just bought a noob bike for a noob rider. 2010 Hardrock

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    Pulled the trigger

    Thank you all for your help... I just pulled the trigger on the Stumpy Elite!!!!

    Hope I don't get buyres remorse and wish I had the Enduro

    I think the Stumpy is the best mix...since I can only have one new bike the Stumpy seems to be the all arounder I was looking for !!!

    it will probrably in at the end of Oct.

    Thanks again

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    Got to hate that buyers remorse. I am terrible at it, must be the engineer in me over analyzing everything. I went from an 06 epic to a 2010 enduro and love it, but do wonder sometimes how the stumpy would of gone. But like you i made my decision based on people who ride in my area and what the bike can do. Yes she is a little heavier on the way up but I always have a grin on my face during every ride, and stunned how much the bike challenges me to push my limits a little more on each ride. (the bike is a far better than the rider at present).

    The stumpy elite is a fantastic bike and I'm sure you will not be disappointed once you get out and ride.

    Now for the wait...................................

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    Hi,
    I followed this discussion and I'm in the same situation. I'm currently riding a Epic Marathon 07 and I'm about to decide for a S-Works Enduro. I know its a little heavier but I do hope it makes more fun on the downhill and I'm really looking for an alternative to the Epic. I'll see I'll take my decision end of October.

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    now I'm really sceound guesing my choice...seems like alot of people are going with the Enduro!

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    I used to live in the same area you do. Bradenton/Sarasota (Alafia, Santos rider) I rode everything out there on my FSR XC and that was plenty of bike. You will absolutely love the Stumpy for the riding that is available there. It's also a great "take anywhere" bike. I see MANY people out here riding Stumpies and they just love them. I would definitely consider one if I wasn't into the "major drops" and jumps thing.

    I moved to WA for the snow and the AM/DH riding. I am currently on an '08 Epic that I have fully depreciated the value of by riding it beyond it's structural limits. Needless to say, I'm in line for an '11 Enduro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojessie
    Hi,
    I followed this discussion and I'm in the same situation. I'm currently riding a Epic Marathon 07 and I'm about to decide for a S-Works Enduro. I know its a little heavier but I do hope it makes more fun on the downhill and I'm really looking for an alternative to the Epic. I'll see I'll take my decision end of October.
    Getting off the stumpy topic the enduro is a great bike. On my epic I always had the feeling of being pitched over the bars when things got steep, where the enduro yells back this is not steep you sissy, inspiring a lot of confidence, and meaning I ride places I would never of attempted on my epic. The longer wheel base means she is not as twitchy/nimble though corners and you will have to change your riding style a little to avoid drifting off line but this only takes a few rides. Switchbacks, singletrack, roots, rock gardens are all a breeze and I never come back feeling battered as the suspension soaks everything up. Pedal bob is not a problem if you are a seated climber, but as I have the solo air R lyric, I am going to add mission control damper so I can lock the forks out when on fire trails and smooth climbs. That way I can stand up and mash when i want a muscle group change like I did on my epic without bobbing up front.

    The bike is chalk and cheese to the epic as you would expect and feels very different to ride. One is a racing machine, the other an all mountain weapon. My tracks are a mix of 50/50 up and down with rock gardens, single track, eroded fire roads etc and as much as I wonder what the stumpy would of been like with 140mm travel, the enduro with 160mm is a joy to ride. The ride to the top of the mountain can be a little harder depending on the terrain ( enduro is about 2.5kg heavier than my epic) but I am definitely rewarded with a super plush downhill run.

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    ^ yeah but have you ever been to FL? The largest hill is the Skyway bridge. Lol.

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    I might just be jumping off that bridge.... still flip flopping on my decsion.

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    I have had my 2010 enduro comp for about a month. It is probably more bike than I need, but it is so much fun. On long non technical climbs I flip on the pro pedal. Descents are tons of fun and the bike eats up New England rock gardens and roots. No regrets, this bike is awesome.

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    I'm 99% sure I'm picking up a 2010 Stumpy Comp on Saturday. Got a great price, and it'll be my first full suspension bike. I'm from AZ and want an all around good bike. With 5" of travel front and 5.5" (pretty sure) in the back, I knowit's not a XC bike, so I'm guessing it's considered all-mountain? I really want to do everything, with a bit of jumps and drops but not sure how extreme I'll get. So I'm guessing the Stumpy is going to be perfect for me...thoughts?

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    Depends on what you mean by "a bit of jumps and drops" The Enduro is more of an all mountain bike but for an all rounder I would certainly take the Stumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVR
    Depends on what you mean by "a bit of jumps and drops" The Enduro is more of an all mountain bike but for an all rounder I would certainly take the Stumpy.
    Here's the thing...I know I'm going to be doing climbing and descending, but I'd like to have a bit of fun at the same time. I'd like something that's good at going up AND down, and if I see a chance to get some air, I want to be able to take it. Since I'm not sure what kind of "jumps and drops" I'm going to do, I think I want an all-around type of bike like the Stumpy FSR..that is until I decide I need more.

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    The choice has me stumped!!! can't endure it much longer

    I have resulted to scientific means to make a choice. I wrote the name of both bikes down on paper..cut them out. 2 pieces for of paper for the stumpy likewise for the enduro. Put them in a hat...let my golden retriever pick out of the hat

    what did he come up with...two pieces of paper each representing both bikes

    kealoha, that video was awsome!!! awsome riders!!!

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    Wish i had trails like that around here. Would love to have bermed trails that the tires grip on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RE50
    what did he come up with...two pieces of paper each representing both bikes
    You know what that means don't you? It means you're just going to have to splurge for the Stumpy EVO.

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    Funny!! I'll just be stickying with the stumpy elite...and possibly add a chainguard if I need it... can't wait my bike beat the hell out of yesterday...still sore from the 3 hr ride..feels like i went to core class at the gym and never left.

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    Bike update...

    went to the LBS the Stumpy Elite has been put on back order...might be late Nov. so I was hanging out with the owner we went for a spin on bikes I took the Enduro expert out... well on thing thing lead to another He gave me an awsome deal I couldn't refuse ... so I put the money on the Enduro and since the Stumpy was back oredred no prob. canceling that out.
    The bike just felt right probrably more bike than I need but I saved money and got a Hell of a deal.
    I pick it up next week I'll try to post pic's asap.

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    You won't be disappointed, the enduro is a great bike to ride. I also think sometimes it is too much bike till I hit a steep technical downhill section, rock garden or drop, then I love the bike even more. Descends well, climbs well and does everything in between. /what more could we ask for

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    Way too much bike for just about everywhere in FL imo but I hope you love it! I'm picking up my Enduro Expert in week too!

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    is that an 2011 enduro expert? I am thinking the same thing. Go big or go home! What did you end up paying?
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    Heres the deal:

    2010 Enduro Expert new $2350....down from $3800. kind of hard to pass up on.

    The Stumpy Elite $2800. Back ordered till the end of Nov.

    I will be doing trips out of FL. Just spent a week in N.C. hit Dupont, Bent Creek , and Tsali...
    When I was riding Dupont and Bent Creek my 98" Heckler with 4" of travel felt undergunned would have felt better on the Stumpy or Enduro. It was hard keeping up with a friend ridding a Sanction on the downhills.

    So maybe I was itching to get a bike a soon..but the deal made it worth it. I am going to change the tires out to a 2.1 out fron and 2.0 rear.

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    I came off an epic and to be honest I don't miss it. The Enduro can do just so much and is just so damn nice to ride and you got a great deal. Your going to love the command post also.

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    Thanks brad72!! I havent bought a bike in over 12 yrs time was due. this bike will last me a long time...
    cant wait to go for a ride..

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    Finnally got my Enduro today!!! took it on one trail...had to get home quick wifey waiting to go out...kid duty tonight. so far I like!!! able to plow over obstacles havent been able to before. took different lines... did notice a little drag on the climbs but Ill get used to iit.
    more to come!!

    tryiing to post pic..can't how the f...do post an image?? can't I just grab from my documents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RE50
    Finnally got my Enduro today!!! took it on one trail...had to get home quick wifey waiting to go out...kid duty tonight. so far I like!!! able to plow over obstacles havent been able to before. took different lines... did notice a little drag on the climbs but Ill get used to iit.
    more to come!!

    tryiing to post pic..can't how the f...do post an image?? can't I just grab from my documents?
    When you are making a post there is a "additional options" box below the "submit reply" button. In there you will find the button to upload photos directly to this site.

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    TRYING AGAIN

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    [IMG]


    well frustrated now cant post picture..

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    Picture



    I hope this worked

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    tried again

    [ it worked sort of kind of sideways...sorry thanks for the HELP!!!
    only changes : 2.1 Kenda Nevagals rear, 2.3 Eskars front, Phenom saddle and of course grips Oury
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 2011 Stumpy elite, Enduro expert-enduro.jpg  

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    Sorry... I have to ask.

    That's a stand, not a kickstand on that bike I hope?
    A kickstand on an Enduro is like curb feelers on a tank.

    No offense. have fun. Enduros rock!

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    whats curb feelers on a tank? no its a stand...im not that big of a kook.

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    looks good. Ride reports soon i hope.

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    Just joking on the kickstand. Enduros rock!
    Enjoy it.

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    Just rode my local trail . It took the decents like nothing...rock and roots that I normally go around, I blasted through them.
    trails had alot of up and downs, this were I thoought the bike would kill me at 31lbs. but to my surprise it did very well.( so much for the negative reviews)
    we kept the pace quicker than normal...probrably because I wanted to see if it was a hinderinse on the enduro.
    I didn't loose a beat...and plus Im not out there to race. so far I like it. rode 3 hrs so I need to get more saddle time...but thus far I am impressed!!

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    @re50,
    good to see that you finally took a decision. I'm still stuck between S-Works Stumpy and Enduro. The more I ask the more a get confused. I know it the Stumpy ascents better and the Enduro descents better. I still would like to get a bike with good uphill capabilities compared to my Epic Marathon but I'd like to get a bike which makes more fun downhill. So whats the right bike for me?

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    It's still a hard question to answer so I'll give you some insight to what I wnet through.
    First of all to be fair..
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    I went with the Enduro Expert because of the deal I received $2300 for a 2010 new Enduro.for that price and the components it was a no brainer. I had ordered a Stumpy Elite 2011 but would not be available for some time...but my frequent visits to the LBS and riding the Enduro it just felt right..the Stumpy felt I was on top of the bike and the Enduro felt I was part of the bike if that makes sense.

    I'm not racing so the speed factor on the climbs is not an issue...( i live in Fl. ride a local park Alafia short small climbs with alot of technical baggage all around) have not noticed any hinderence on the ascents...compared to my old Heckler. you do have to move a little bit more forward on the technical climbs but not enough to think the bike is a boat anchor.

    As far as the decents I just point and go all you have to do is hold on for the ride. it is definately a confidence booster. I do decend alot faster than ever before. Thats were you stay ahead of the group ride..

    Just rode some flat single track with roots and soft sand and it did a fine job didn't notice any lost speed. I do notice I bash my gears more but I only had several on my last bike that worked so I'm having fun.

    I do play around more on it i.e bunny hoping over rocks and roots and hitting everything I can jump with in my means. I feel alot younger and imature on the bike joke well sort of.

    A recent trip to North Carolina helped with decsion as well...rode Dupont, Bent Creek and Tsali...I wish I had the Enduro for that trip...the climbs didn't matter because no matter what bike I would still be walking up most of those sections. and if your walking up it woouls be a total buzz kill to have to walk some of the sections back down because your bike just dosent cut it although I didn't have to on my old bike it was sketchy and not a comfortable feeling. I know the Enduro would have made the ride alot more fun.

    I am positve I would be just as equally happ with the Stumpy and it would be great in all situations...I just went by feel. I even went as far as calling Specialized fro their advice...
    the response was that the line between the Stumpy is Blurred and they are so close it's hard choice...if you like working a little on your climbs and bomb the decents the Enduro is it...and if you want to go up with ease and not bomb the decents Stumpy this is what I was told by them...

    I rode both on my local trails..the Stumpy did climb better...but over the technical areas the Enduro imo was better. So for me I wanted something a bit more plush easy on my body I'm 45 and I ride about 70 to 80 miles a week both on road and off road.

    Trust me I know what your going through..I just picked up my bike and I'm still thinking about the decsion...it would happened even if I picked up the Stumpy...

    So in short I do not know what bike would be right for you...in that case I don't think anyone would know only you can decide that....alot of people advised against the Enduro for me but I am glad I went with it...and kind of an odd way the decsion was made for me by the better deal... both bikes were so close in decsion...

    The one thing about the Stumpy I was not sure about was the Brain. From what I read it was going to give me as plush as ride as a bike with out one...

    sorry if this dosen't help..and I'm a little long winded. I'm not even going to re-read for spell check. most I have ever written on a forum.

    If you read some post from enduro owners they all love them that's what I got from it!! It's a killer bike !! Only have gotten 2 days of ridding it thus far.

    leelikesbikes.com has a write up on stumpy vs Enduro..he also rides both. so I went there fro some advice as well...


    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by RE50
    Heres the deal:

    2010 Enduro Expert new $2350....down from $3800. kind of hard to pass up on.
    Man... shops where I a from never have year old stock, at least not in size Large. I have to order almost everything but parts.

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