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    2011 S-Works Epic 29er in the HOUSE!!!

    OK, not quite but it is at the shop.

    Pics soon, I promise.

    Cheers!

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    Can't wait to see some pics!
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    Good job!

    oh mate come on pics asap my 26" sworks is due end of the month!!!! cant wait will be a huge change from my trail bike or 150mm hard tail!!!

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    That's a tease! I assume you bought the complete bike since you've discussed the carbon wheels and the Reba Brain.

    PS. my DT 36 star came in the mail. I hope it works in the Specy hub. Thanks for the tip

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    This is very promising, maybe I'll see mine before the early December release date.

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    I saw one in a local shop several weeks ago, and they already had a second. The wheels are astoundingly light.

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    Are the frame sets and carbon wheels supposed to arrive after full bikes?

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    It appears that the whole bikes will be released prior to the framesets. Again, knowing that their are a few out there keeps my optimism high.

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    anxiously awaiting pics and weights. congrats on scoring what is most likely the most sought after new bike in 2011!!!
    Try to be good.

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    I'll wait patiently for my frame and wheels...indeed good to see full S-Works bikes rolling out.

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    Honestly, I was a bit surprised to hear it showed up as the last word I got was END of November. I really think Specialized is trying to under promise and over deliver on delivery times this year.

    I'll get over there this afternoon, I promise.

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    Let's hope youre right. I just picked my s-works carbon crankset on Monday. Just waiting for the spiders to come available then I'll have the build all prepared. I already have a Stans Crest laced to an AC from hub. Probably will go with the Crest in the rear as well. The bike is going to be ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goneskiian
    I'll get over there this afternoon, I promise.
    What the hell is wrong with you ? The day my $9,000 bike comes in I'm coming down with a cold. F work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    What the hell is wrong with you ? The day my $9,000 bike comes in I'm coming down with a cold. F work!
    SERIOUSLY!! go get your damn bike already you slacker!
    Try to be good.

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    What bike(s) are you coming from? Very curious to hear a ride report. I put 20 miles or so on a demo Carbon Comp yesterday (no S-Works demo bike, sadly), and very interested in what folks are experiencing with the new fork, XX group, etc.

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    I seen one today at the bike shop, Unreal the rims are Sweeettt just as the whole bike,

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    Quote Originally Posted by whybotherme
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    anxiously awaiting pics and weights. congrats on scoring what is most likely the most sought after new bike in 2011!!!
    Gone- I cant wait to see the "out of the box weight". I know you guys showed me the bikerumor site that showed the 21.14lb and the 23.5lb weights for a Medium. Did you get a Medium? Where did it come in that 2+lb spectrum? I know the 23.5lb quote included tubes/cage. I'm sure the bike comes out of the box with tubes, so not likely at the 21.14lb quote out of the box.

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    what size?
    S-Works all the bikes!
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    My friend picked his new S-Works 29er Epic up tonight. He is on his first ride right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swami Scott
    PS. my DT 36 star came in the mail. I hope it works in the Specy hub. Thanks for the tip
    Keep us posted on this. My non S-Works Epic 29er frame will be here in mid-December, although its a Christmas gift so I won't get it until then. Still, I'm used to King hubs, so I'm definitely looking to at least get to 36 tooth engagement.

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    Sorry for the delay. I got distracted by the RECORD heat we had in Seattle today. I live just a bit east (inland) and it was 78!!! I'm trying to enjoy it while it lasts as we're expecting a much colder and wetter winter than normal.

    Yes, I could have spent a couple hours building up a new bike but I chose to do a nice road ride instead.

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    good choice
    you only get so many nice days
    not too long until Crystal Mountain is open and than you will be just skiian
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    My buddy picked up his new Epic S-Works 29er last night and it weighed 21lbs 9 oz with no pedals but had Racing Ralph SnakeSkin Tires (set up tubeless), S-Works Water Bottle Cage, ESI Grips. With pedals it should be around 22.5lbs. His bike is a large.
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    don't forget to weigh your frame goneskiian
    you promised

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    Sorry for the psych out folks!

    I know my interwebs rep is going to take a huge hit but I've been told it can't come home until I make room in the garage. That's right, the CFO put her foot down. Look for an Epic Marathon on eBay next week.

    I wouldn't have had this overlap had the new machine not shown up early! I guess this isn't a bad problem to have. It's good for me to get to practice some delayed gratification though (or so I'm told).

    Thanks for the reminder SJ. It will take some disassembly but I think I can swing it.

    Yes, I will be living up to my username this winter for sure.

    Here are some teaser pics. I have a feeling someone here will get complete bike pics up before I do though. Sadly, today would have been a nice day for a ride, rain's movin' back in tomorrow.

    Cheers!
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    I'd pick it up and store it at the office.

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    god I want mine so bad now
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    OK, with all this talk about the Epic S-Works, I just went and paid for my new S-Works. The Medium they had in stock (which was sold) weighed 22lbs out of the box. They took out the tubes and added Stans- brining the weight down to 21lbs 10 oz. My new bike will be here on Tuesday. This is gonna be the slowes 4 days in history!

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    Very nice Goneskiian!!

    I've been told that the 36 star ratchet DT upgrade doesn't work on the Expert hubs (still need to verify) so I hope it works on the carbons because they look so nice. I love my Expert but the engagement sucks on the Specy hubs to the point that I might have to bail on that wheelset. Once again, buyers remorse with S-Works frameset on the brain

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    Anyone heard that they will be coming out with a black S-Works Epic 29er frameset?????? Insight????

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    After riding the 11' comp 29er around today, i am seriously excited for my sworks to come in. I think they nailed the full sus 29er on the head with this bike, it handles amazing, i can only imagine how it will be with the carbon frame, their fork, and much less weight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic
    Anyone heard that they will be coming out with a black S-Works Epic 29er frameset?????? Insight????

    Oh and yes, they are having a red/white, yellow/black, and they just added a Black color to the frame/fork set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swami Scott
    Very nice Goneskiian!!

    I've been told that the 36 star ratchet DT upgrade doesn't work on the Expert hubs (still need to verify) so I hope it works on the carbons because they look so nice. I love my Expert but the engagement sucks on the Specy hubs to the point that I might have to bail on that wheelset. Once again, buyers remorse with S-Works frameset on the brain
    The carbon rovals come standard with the dt swiss 36 tooth engagement. The new S-Works 29er does anyways.

    I destroyed my 36 tooth engagement tonight in my Roval 29er EL's. I was pre-riding for the race on Sunday and stood up to do a climb and boom. I was very disappointed.
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    Anyone seen pictures or have more information on the black 29er Epic S-Works frameset? My local dealer says its not on their site.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivus
    Anyone seen pictures or have more information on the black 29er Epic S-Works frameset? My local dealer says its not on their site.....
    You mean this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swami Scott
    I've been told that the 36 star ratchet DT upgrade doesn't work on the Expert hubs (still need to verify) so I hope it works on the carbons because they look so nice. I love my Expert but the engagement sucks on the Specy hubs to the point that I might have to bail on that wheelset. Once again, buyers remorse with S-Works frameset on the brain
    I saw the post where somebody said this - it's too bad. But honestly rear hubs are something I don't like to mess around with. I gave King a call wlyesterday and they are forecasting that their 142mm hubs will be available in the beginning of December. They also said you will be able to buy a new axle to convert a 135mm QR hub if you'd rather go that route. I'll take the engagement and the reliability - granted that it comes at a price

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    No. The business online access acct. says there is a black color in addition to the white/red and flo yellow/black.

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    Black

    We need pictures fast!!!

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    I just picked it up...
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    21.8 lbs with pedals & cage!!!

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    Beauty! Is that a size small or medium?

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    that is one awesome bike! enjoy it man.

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    Glad to see somebody's getting bike pictures up in this thread!



    Sweet ride granget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu
    Beauty! Is that a size small or medium?
    Medium.

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    Looks great!
    Are those decals on the wheels??

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    The decals are cleared over so you can't feel them and they won't scratch off. The wheels are killer.
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    Ride report/review?

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    Swami Scott and Granget how tall are you guys
    I am still wondering if I ordered the right size
    did a fit calculator on CC and it said I should ride a 23.7 top tube
    of course this is in the middle of the two sizes
    I rode my friends 19" s works and it seemed to climb better than my 17.5 in the saddle (I'M SURE I WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS LATTER T-KID)
    I am 5'10" working on 5'9" by the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe
    Swami Scott and Granget how tall are you guys
    I am still wondering if I ordered the right size
    did a fit calculator on CC and it said I should ride a 23.7 top tube
    of course this is in the middle of the two sizes
    I rode my friends 19" s works and it seemed to climb better than my 17.5 in the saddle (I'M SURE I WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS LATTER T-KID)
    I am 5'10" working on 5'9" by the way
    THANKS SJ
    Joe,
    I am 5'9" (used to be 5'10" too) with long legs for my height. Before I bought my bike I was sized with a Medium and Large side by side. On the Medium, the seat post is almost all the way out, but felt good. When I got on the Large, it just felt huge (maybe because this is my first 29er). The BG Fit guy at the Specialized dealer said I was in between sizing on the Medium and Large, but he thought the Medium fit me slightly better and would give me more confidence and a slightly lower center of gravity- so I went with the Medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe
    Swami Scott and Granget how tall are you guys
    SlowerJoe - I'm 6'0 and haven't started shrinking yet. I'm on the Large and it's perfect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdrnizd
    The decals are cleared over so you can't feel them and they won't scratch off. The wheels are killer.
    Yes on the killer part. No on the massive graphics that can't be removed. Thanks

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    still going with the med
    just sat on a large and was just a little too long
    thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swami Scott
    Yes on the killer part. No on the massive graphics that can't be removed. Thanks
    That was what I was getting at, is they can't be removed and you can't feel them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimInSF
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    2011 Epic S-Works 29er ride report- WOW!!! I got the bike on Tuesday, went on a short 1 hour ride to get suspension dialed in on Wednesday, then did a 4-man 12 hour race on Saturday. After the first lap, I was totally stoked. My lap time was already faster than times on my previuos 26" bike. This bike just wants to go fast. It climbs like a rocket and just flows over everythin on the decents. You can carry so much speed over everything! The one thing that I did learn was that I used to sqare my turns on my 26". Can't do that on the 29". After a couple more laps, I was carrying more speed into the turns and laying it over and carving through the turns at speed. The Renegade tires that come on the bike are great rear tires, but don't have enough meat for the front. I washed out a few times on the front end and almost lost it a couple times, but never went down. If I put on a LK up front, I think I'll have that much more confidence. The brain worked flawless and I had it totally dialed in within a couple hours on the bike. The 2X10 was great too. I had plenty of gear for everything this course had to offer. The only thing I did notice was that in the biggest gear I was spinning out at about 28 mph on the downhill. Uphill- plenty of gears. Overall- 5 Stars. This thing rocks!

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    Thanks for the report! Man, this makes my decision so much the harder...

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    I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam. Going with the medium. Went back and forth with the medium and large and finally closed the discussion.

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    Did you spend time riding both (on a lower model, presumably) to test fit? Yes, it's a teensy tad heavier, but one advantage is that the large comes with a 185mm front rotor, the medium 160, so if you're heavier (I'm 210), this might make a difference.

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    Good job! fit

    I was only able to take a spin on a medium Epic Comp carbon 29er. I weigh 170lbs so the rotor size isn't a huge concern. I am trying to figure out if the S-Works Epic 29er framesets come with the brake adapters to utilize 160mm rotors. I don't want to use 140mm rotors and believe it may be challenging to adapters to fit a post mount frame. If anyone has input on this matter let me know.

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    The medium frame comes with 160mm on both front and rear, so wouldn't they sell the adapters if it didn't come with them already?

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    adapters

    I had the Epic Marathon 29er last season and sold the frame/fork and kept the XX group. So, I just bought the frameset, cranks, and XX chainrings. That's why I'm wondering about the adapters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic
    I had the Epic Marathon 29er last season and sold the frame/fork and kept the XX group. So, I just bought the frameset, cranks, and XX chainrings. That's why I'm wondering about the adapters...
    If you don't mind me asking how much did you get out of the frame and fork? I am thinking about doing the same thing.
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    I sold the frame/fork for $1650. XX crankset and BB for about $250.

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    Cool, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic
    I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam. Going with the medium. Went back and forth with the medium and large and finally closed the discussion.
    Iam the same size and inseam as u but went with the Large I like the way the bigger bike handles for me, but ur gonna love the Epic its just fast period.
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    Black S-Works frameset is up on www.specialized.com. Sweet color scheme.

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    Still waiting on my frame, but I picked up my carbon Roval 29er wheels today (1440 grams at the store w/blue tape and valve stems installed). Mounted a Renegade on the back and a Captain on the front w/just the blue tape and some Stans...holding air very well so far.

    Hope the frame comes soon...

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    too bad you cant get the rovals in that black scheme
    I like the stealth look

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    Scored a 2011 Comp that I am going to strip of its parts and build up. Interested to see how it compares to my 2010 Marathon.

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    I like the black but I'm glad I chose the yellow. Wanted something a bit flashier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichwic
    Black S-Works frameset is up on www.specialized.com. Sweet color scheme.
    Damn! That's sweet!

    Honestly I'm wishing they offered a different color option for the built bike.

    At the rate I'm going you guys that ordered frames will have them before I bring mine home!

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    Is that painted black or gloss over carbon? Looks like straight black paint in the photos.

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    Found out yesterday that the framesets come with the adapters to run 160mm rotors.

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    Not an S-Works, but I'm very, VERY happy with my Expert! I'm in Colorado and we had a little snow when I picked up my bike. No matter, gotta ride! I am thinking about upgrading the wheels to the S-Works set. The stock wheels on the Expert weigh 1890g; the Roval carbons are listed at 1400g. That's a bit over a pound. Twice the engagement, too. Wowsa.
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    Sweet pics! Looks like great fun!

    <<< jealous

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    I am almost 5"10 long torso/short legs riding a medium with a 105mm stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granget
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    To my mind, that has *way* too much seat extension for the size of the frame. I assume that this is not it's setup height???

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiwi
    To my mind, that has *way* too much seat extension for the size of the frame. I assume that this is not it's setup height???
    I was fit by a Specialized BG fit specialist at the local shop before I ordered the bike. I was right inbetween a Medium and Large. On the Medium, the post was out quite a bit, but not to the min. insertion point. When I got on the Large it just felt huge for my 5'9" height. I have long legs and a short torso/arms. The reach on the Large was too far. I would have had to put on a shorter stem on that bigger frame.
    Thanks for your feedback, but I turned my fastest lap times at the local 12 hour course last week and I absolutely love the set-up/geometry and fit. This bike rocks!

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    Can you guys share feedback on the new brain fork? does it click over noticbly when activating? how is the adjustment span? any other thoughts? thanks

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    Guys. Just changed my order to the black frameset. Feb delivery. It's ok. Worth the wait. Gonna get the rims too. Stealthy batman like.

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    Electrical tape to cover the roval decals. Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granget
    I was fit by a Specialized BG fit specialist at the local shop before I ordered the bike. I was right inbetween a Medium and Large. On the Medium, the post was out quite a bit, but not to the min. insertion point. When I got on the Large it just felt huge for my 5'9" height. I have long legs and a short torso/arms. The reach on the Large was too far. I would have had to put on a shorter stem on that bigger frame.
    Thanks for your feedback, but I turned my fastest lap times at the local 12 hour course last week and I absolutely love the set-up/geometry and fit. This bike rocks!
    I'm sure they covered it, but on my 2010 Marathon there are 2 minimum's - one the seat post, and the other the frame. I would expect that in your case it's moot as you don't have the carbon "triangle" that my epic does, and as do the large 2011 carbon frames. In my (and these) frames, the minimum seat post insertion is to the base of the top tube - regardless of what the seat post says....

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    Saw the black frame the other day too and had to have it. Ordered a medium 5'9.5"
    On my custom bikes the TT is a 24 and 24.5 but the large felt too tall under me. Right now I have straight seatposts on them so set back and a 110 stem should do. SO SWEET!!!
    Lets see who gets the first black build up here.

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    Anybody know the frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiwi
    To my mind, that has *way* too much seat extension for the size of the frame. I assume that this is not it's setup height???
    Nah, that looks fine to me. Don't forget there's also a black seat post collar that's not very obvious in that picture.

    Also, it is a carbon frame, it's an Expert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpimp
    Anybody know the frame weight?
    SlowerJoe somehow talked me into stripping my complete bike to weigh it. I'm hoping someone will get their frame only order in before I get in to get mine built up though so I don't have to!

    Cheers!

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    my frame should be here any day
    went with a large so it should be a closer comparison

    I do suck at being a weight weenie
    my parts add up to 20 pounds without the frame
    that is with carbon rovals

    as far as me getting you to strip your bike down ...
    I'm going to blame that on the rainier beer you been drinking to save up for that S-Works

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    I must say that I was totally smitten by this bike.

    Congrats on your new ride!!!

    Just yesterday I was in my shop and they have a 2011 S-Works Epic 29er built up. I must have sat there and drooled for like 20 min's. It was a cool bike to look at, but I just could not swallow the price tag, even at my discount, it is out of my pocket book league.

    Then, my buddy and I started to talk and one thing led to another and before I knew it, I was committed to the 2011 Epic Expert 29er (like the one pictured above in Colorado). I could not believe it. I am so stoked for the new ride.

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    congrats....I think you will be totally stoked and not regret it at all....... mine comes mid feb....

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    Finally brought it home! Woohooo!

    OK, now I want to go ride it. Maybe the rain will hold off tomorrow.

    Sorry SlowerJoe, I wasn't up to stripping it down. It's a lot more work than I thought it would be with the fact that the run the rear derailleur housing through the chainstay. I was thinking I would just have to clip some zip ties and pull the cranks.

    #1 - During assembly.

    #2 - Chainrings. Hmmm, I guess I was expecting XX. Best I can figure Sram doesn't make them in the gear ratios Specialized wanted to spec. You can also see that they have put a fitted piece of clear protective tape on the crank. There's some on both sides and extra's in the goody bag!

    Now to get some tape for the seat and chain stays. With how wide they are I've heard folks have been clipping their heels a bit. Anybody know where to pick some up?

    #3 - Cool graphic I found on the lower inside of the brain valve.

    #4 & #5 - Another cool tidbit I didn't expect. Just like on the cranks they've installed some 3m protection tape on the down tube. It starts about 3/4 of the way up and wraps all the way under the bottom bracket and up the seat tube a few inches. Also just like the cranks, they even include a spare piece in the goody bag!
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    A couple more.

    #1 - The weight with Look Quartz pedals, bottle cage and BG Contour Locking grips in grey/white. Size is XL.

    #2 - Fully built and in the garage. Yay!

    Pedaled it around the neighborhood in the dark a bit to get stuff set up. Holy smoke! This thing is quick! I wonder how much of it is the tires. They seem to roll really well.

    Yes, that's a different saddle. I like wider saddles so that's a 155 Phenom. I think I like the Romin better though so I'll be getting one on there soon.
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    I too received my 38/24 chainrings last week and was disappointed that they weren't the XX version. Guess they will have to do. Ridiculous ride. Hoping the frames come with the protective tape just as the complete bikes do.

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    wow she sure does look pretty,,,,,,, ride report please climbs, downhills, handling.... nice build and did it yourself. are those the 135 mm rims with the conversion? or the stock 142+? It would be nice to hear about your shock adjustments, front and rear as well. A pic of you grinning like crazy while on it would be priceless.

    congrats

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    I'm........... speechless and very jealous. Awesome bike, all this envy is making me want an epic instead of S-works SJ FSR mainly for the carbon wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chekuen
    wow she sure does look pretty,,,,,,, ride report please climbs, downhills, handling.... nice build and did it yourself. are those the 135 mm rims with the conversion? or the stock 142+? It would be nice to hear about your shock adjustments, front and rear as well. A pic of you grinning like crazy while on it would be priceless.

    congrats

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    eagerly waiting for mine.
    Those would be the stock 142+ that came with the bike.
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    How does it shift under power? I thought the XX rings were specially ramped or otherwise tuned to optimize front shifting under power. Here is a quote from SingleTrack:

    X-Glide: It’s not a deodorant

    But probably the most important development is X-Glide. Truvativ, SRAM’s crank division, built X-Glide around a technology patented 12 years ago but not leveraged until now. Its core element is size-paired chainrings, in which the large ring is 1.5 times the size of the small ring. It allows the ring combinations (26/39 and 28/42) to be partitioned into four equal segments with precisely located chain pick up ramps and release points. The chainring teeth are then precisely clocked so that at each of these four locations, the chain can stretch from one ring to the other, yet the chain rollers remain firmly engaged on the teeth of both rings.

    It’s worth repeating – the chain remains fully engaged on the teeth of both the big and small chainrings as a shift from one to the other is made. The resulting effect is impressive. And after a few months of riding, I can say emphatically that it works. X-Glide permits full-power upshifts and downshifts. I’ve powered through up- and downshifts, cringing at the prospect of a dropped chain, chainsuck or the momentum-robbing scrabble of a chain trying to claw up the big ring. But every shift has been perfect. It feels like the best shifting available on some road cranks, and that’s damn good.

    Is the XX front shifting better than XTR, which is widely regarded as the reference point for front shifting performance on mountain bikes? That’s hard to quantify, but I would say shifting performance between the two XX chainrings is at least as good as XTR. And I would venture farther and argue that in terms of efficiency, XX is actually better than XTR. I perceive the narrow chainline, two-chainring system to be inherently more efficient, both under pedaling load and in gearshifting.

    What else do you need to know up front? There’s fitment for almost any bottom bracket shell in existence, including the standard threaded GXP outboard BB, internal press-fit GXP (which fits the Shimano-designed 86mm threadless BB shell), BB30, and SRAM’s new PressFit 30. The standard crank option for those frames that will fit it has a Q-factor of 156mm (about 17mm narrower than a standard Noir). For frames that are too wide, there’s a wider 164mm BB30 option and a 166mm GXP option.
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    Sweet!!!

    Crankskins.com for protective tape. I love their stuff!
    Try to be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdrnizd
    Those would be the stock 142+ that came with the bike.
    Yup. This is the complete bike not a frame and build kit.

    I did some of the build myself but it was mostly my LBS. Honestly though, the bike comes mostly built from Specialized.

    After some further research I'm pretty sure the rings on this bike are decidedly NOT X-Glide and I'm more than a little disappointed.

    I'll reserve final judgement though until I get a chance to ride it hard and check the shifting.

    Cheers!
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    hey goneskiian, i sent you a PM. could you check it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocie
    hey goneskiian, i sent you a PM. could you check it out?
    Got it and replied.

    In case others have the same question ocie did, I'll answer it here as well. He asked how tall I am as he's waffling between the Large and XL sizes.

    I'm 6'2" with a 35.25" inseam. That inseam measurement is a "floor to crotch" true inseam measurement versus a "pant leg length" inseam measurement.

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    As for the chainring issue. I'm probably making more of it than it deserves. I'm sure these rings shift well. I'm just surprised that Specialized would list this in their specs:

    "S-Works OS carbon crank, 10-speed XC double, custom XX spider/rings, S: 170mm, others: 175mm"

    But then not include XX rings. Of course, there is this bit at the bottom of the spec sheet, "Specifications subject to change without notice."

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    I did some more digging on the Sram website and I don't see that they offer an X-Glide 2x10 setup in anything smaller than a 39x26 combo. I'm sure Specialized is gearing these a little easier for the general public who might buy them.

    Honestly, on one ride I did last year I could have used a slightly easier gear. It was a pretty long steep fire road. Then again, it also made me realize I need to get stronger. Of course, being a climber trapped in a sprinters body doesn't help either!

    Cheers!

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    was wondering.... alll other things being constant on the full bike set up...... if it was build with an XTR drive train 3x9 what conceivable weight difference do you guys think there would be? between 2x10 xx and full xtr 3x9

    thanks also I am a medium frame so a bit lighter than goneskiian xl frame,. art

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    I'm actually pretty surprised by the lack of the XX rings, and it looks to me like the real item won't even work if you bought them yourself - the XX cranks are 120/80 BCD versus, I think, 104/64 for the Specialized cranks on the bike. Curious to hear how the shifting under full power is with the ones they're using.

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