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    2011 Monarch RT3 for my Enduro

    So im looking into the new Monarch RT3, thing is Rockshox provides some different tunes for it, and they released this guide:




    From what I see, I should go for Tune E or B for my 2009 Enduro SL, can someone confirm? Or am I way off?
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    You want the B.

    The Enduro has an average ratio of 2.6 and is rising rate.

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    or buy this. Not sure what price you're getting on the Monarch though.

    http://www.pushindustries.com/2009/index.php?menu_id=97&type=products&title=%3CB%3E%3 Cfont%20color=red%3ENEW!%3C/B%3E%3C/font%20color%3E%20RockShox%20Monarch%20RT3&product _id=75

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    Thanks : ) Now here is my second question; should I go for the Standard Volume Air Can, or the High Volume Air Can version?

    whats the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.P.
    Thanks : ) Now here is my second question; should I go for the Standard Volume Air Can, or the High Volume Air Can version?

    whats the difference?

    The volume, haha.

    You should contact Push and speak with the owner Darren. They sell and tune the Monarch. Apparently the spring curve on this shock is great for the newer enduro. I am sure he will help you pick out the best version for your bike as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARider
    The volume, haha.

    You should contact Push and speak with the owner Darren. They sell and tune the Monarch. Apparently the spring curve on this shock is great for the newer enduro. I am sure he will help you pick out the best version for your bike as well.
    For the new Enduro? Like the 2010/2011? What size Monarch would fit the new Enduro? Has anyone done this? I'm happy with my shock but I'm curious...

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    Tune P(ush).

    Why guess when they give exactly what you need (any beyond the stock tunes)?

    Small can for any FR.

    Didn't we already discuss this?

    P

    Note the small print at the bottom of your graphic. 200+ mm shock = E.

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    So would it be worth it to sell my rp23 and upgrade to this, or just PUSH my rp23? Trying to figure out the price differences and performance differences between these 2 shocks for my 2010 Enduro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P

    Note the small print at the bottom of your graphic. 200+ mm shock = E.
    yearh, noticed that too.

    PUSH says small(normal) volume can for AM on an enduro.

    funny thing is that there is no normal volume can in a 200x57 shock size. At that size they come in high volume

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.P.
    funny thing is that there is no normal volume can in a 200x57 shock size. At that size they come in high volume
    RockShox made spacers for their HV air shocks. The spacers filled in the outter sleeve in increments. Check with them to see if they are still available if you can't get a LV can.

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    The 2010 Enduro uses an odd length shock. it's spec is 216mm eye to eye, and 54mm stroke.

    I've let all the air out of mine and compressed it, and there is still over 10mm of shaft exposed. So I'm wondering why specialized did this? My thought is that is would use full travel without ramping up because it still has a bit of air pocket left in the can, but due to the small air can, it acts different than a large volume air can through it's stroke.

    Mine is the RP2-BV on the Expert. It's so soft, even with 22% sag The pro-pedal switch hardly makes a difference, and I think I'd like more compression damping. My only complaint is it feels like is sucks away so much energy bob'n away on the road sections. I plan on getting it "Pushed" to get that pro-pedal more of a platform when it's "on".

    So based on the chart the OP's chart for the RockShox, I would say go with the "E" firm tune.

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    The standard Monarch will not fit the 2010 and 2011 Enduro's as they require a proprietary eyelet for mounting it to the link. We will be offering custom Monarch replacement shocks for the 2010 and 2011 Enduro frames sometime in December that will feature this proprietary eyelet configuration. As with the current Monarch's that we offer, each will be custom built here at PUSH and will be shipped as a direct "bolt-in" configuration complete with mounting reducers.

    Darren

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    Thanks for the response Darren. So would it make more sense to PUSH my rp23 or sell it and trade up for a Monarch? What would the differences be?

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    Im also interested in this question should i have to super star out my pr23 or get a monarch for my enduro?
    Off topic are you guys going to have clinics again last year was great fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    We will be offering custom Monarch replacement shocks for the 2010 and 2011 Enduro frames sometime in December that will feature this proprietary eyelet configuration.
    thats pretty awesome news for 2010 + 2011 enduro owners

    Im on a 2009 enduro sl, ive just done some more research, it appears that Rockshox abandoned the A-E "tunes", and just reduced it to "low - medium - high" tunes for 2011. Can you tell what it does? Is the low tune less linear, than the high tune?

    Here is what im talking about:

    http://www.sram.com/rockshox/products/monarch-rt3

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    Thanks for the response Darren. So would it make more sense to PUSH my rp23 or sell it and trade up for a Monarch? What would the differences be?
    The Monarch offers a better spring curve as well as a larger oil capacity. These features allow for lower pressures in the shock as well as air spring. We also have additional tuning options with the Monarch due to the extra room that we're afforded with it's design. It's not to say that tuning your Float isn't a great option because it is, it's just that the new Monarch has stepped it up. Obviously, the down side of the Monarch is that it is more expensive than tuning the shock that already comes on the bike.

    Off topic are you guys going to have clinics again last year was great fun.
    We'll be doing something, I just don't have the details yet.

    thats pretty awesome news for 2010 + 2011 enduro owners

    Im on a 2009 enduro sl, ive just done some more research, it appears that Rockshox abandoned the A-E "tunes", and just reduced it to "low - medium - high" tunes for 2011. Can you tell what it does? Is the low tune less linear, than the high tune?
    I'm actually not really familiar with the stock RS tunes as we don't get our shocks that way from them. If I was to guess based on the stock shock being a shimmed design, I would say that the characteristic of the shock force curve is the same, just shifted stiffer or softer.

    Darren

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    Darren,
    If you could post up on here when you are able to start filling orders for a tuned monarch for the 2010 and 2011 enduro here so people know when they can start ordering that would be great. Do you also have a line on the evo coil upgrade cause i would love one of those with a mx tune for sol vista days.

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    Just pulled the first shock end cap off the CNC and got it bolted up....success!

    First try even!

    I'll have more info after this weekend.

    Darren
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 2011 Monarch RT3 for my Enduro-10-enduro.jpg  


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    cant wait to hear update, Looking good are you guy able to do a big hit kit on the monarch for resort days or what all are the tuning options?

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    Mmmmm. Kinky.


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    Good news..... Looking forward to hearing more. Any chance of mounting a ccdb on a 10/11 enduro?

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    big news for enduro owners

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    The standard Monarch will not fit the 2010 and 2011 Enduro's as they require a proprietary eyelet for mounting it to the link. We will be offering custom Monarch replacement shocks for the 2010 and 2011 Enduro frames sometime in December that will feature this proprietary eyelet configuration. As with the current Monarch's that we offer, each will be custom built here at PUSH and will be shipped as a direct "bolt-in" configuration complete with mounting reducers.

    Darren
    Do you plan to offer a similar solution for the 2010-2011 Stumpjumper? The shock has custom mount interface, length and stroke...

    Thank you

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Hey, that's my bike!

    I am numero uno - hope to get out and try it today!! Thanks for hooking me up, Darren.

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    Just pulled the first shock end cap off the CNC and got it bolted up....success!

    First try even!

    I'll have more info after this weekend.

    Darren
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    Do you plan to offer a similar solution for the 2010-2011 Stumpjumper? The shock has custom mount interface, length and stroke...
    I'll get one of those next, but I'll assume that it's the same interface and we will be able to offer something.

    Darren

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    I'll get one of those next, but I'll assume that it's the same interface and we will be able to offer something.
    I'm glad to hear it! Thank you again.

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    Any ride reports on the monarch on the rear?

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    ... and if we just ... Only initial impressions..........

    ...........until tomorrow afternoon when I take a run up Horsetooth Mountain (near Fort Collins, CO) and down the front side. I will post after that shakedown cruise.
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    Should be a noce ride we are supposed to be in the 50's tomorrow down in the springs so should be pretty warm there as well.

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    Any word on the adapters for the 2010 SJers? The shop I work at has a 2010 SJer FSR on the floor in my size and the owner is begging me to buy it but this thread/the link might be the deciding factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    Just pulled the first shock end cap off the CNC and got it bolted up....success!

    First try even!

    I'll have more info after this weekend.

    Darren

    So whats the update on this end cap?

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    So whats the update on this end cap?
    We just received our parts kits for this application a couple of days ago. The end caps will go into the mill sometime next week and we'll begin shipping the back orders that day. I can tell you that we don't have many left but if you are looking for one we can get you setup. Our next shipment of parts will be here in about 4 weeks.

    Darren

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    I too have been held back from purchasing a new stumpy FSR this year due to the exclusive shock mounts. The triad has never been a great shock or a terrible shock but I like knowing that I'll have the option to swap to a RP23 or an RT3 down the road if I don't like it. It would be great to know PUSH has the capability to help Specialized owners out.

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    What do you think about a 2010/2011 Enduro with a Rockshox Vivid? Brendan Fairclough has one on his 2010 Enduro with the 2010 Evo links. I think that would be a sick AM setup and also a good setup to hit up the DH trails on the weekend.

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    +1 For the stumpy RT3, i want one for my 29er...

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    Im waiting for a vivid from PUSH hope they hurry up hint hint

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    Check out this bike. Definitely a Monarch on it.
    Also, what's with the fork coating colored black???



    From here:
    http://www.ihatebikes.net/site/blog/...-are-blurring/

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedoflife
    Check out this bike. Definitely a Monarch on it.
    Also, what's with the fork coating colored black???
    That's a Lyric the sponsored riders were running last year.

    Nice find on the rear shock pic, looks cool with the piggyback.

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    I got to see this bike a few weeks back with the Monarch Plus on it. At least we know companies are working on options.

    from http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6030574/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    Just pulled the first shock end cap off the CNC and got it bolted up....success!

    First try even!

    I'll have more info after this weekend.

    Darren

    do you get full 2.5 inch stroke travel with the monarch? Or did you have to use a internal limiter to make it stop at 2.125?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHIND
    Just pulled the first shock end cap off the CNC and got it bolted up....success!

    First try even!

    I'll have more info after this weekend.

    Darren
    How did I miss this?

    This is fantastic news for 2010/2011 Enduro owners!

    Do you have any idea when the Monarch Enduro RT3 will be going on your site?

    Any plans to move the kit onto other shocks such as the Monarch Plus or (even better) Rock Shox vivid?

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    Not sure when they are going on the site as a specific option but my order got processed Tuesday for one. My LBS phoned in the order for me. When I talked to Darren last week he said the parts just came in and machining would happen this week. I am looking forward to having one for my 2010 Enduro in the next few weeks. The Plus, RT, and RT-AM were not options for us when I talked to them.

    The shock is limited to 2.125 stroke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve.E
    How did I miss this?

    This is fantastic news for 2010/2011 Enduro owners!

    Do you have any idea when the Monarch Enduro RT3 will be going on your site?

    Any plans to move the kit onto other shocks such as the Monarch Plus or (even better) Rock Shox vivid?

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    Any word on the CCDB for the Enduro/Evo yet?

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    Last I heard from cc was it was delayed further sadly. More work than initially thought or something....

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    I have an email into them... We'll see what they say.

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    Monarch Plus

    I was one of 5 lucky bas.. souls who snatched Monarch Plus RC3 from PUSH after they figured out how to modify it for 2010 Enduro.
    I have only had one ride on it - crosscountryesh but rocky. Very impressed. When climbing in open switch position medium and small rocks and roots dissapear - but no unpleasant RP23 wallowing detected. Downhill ride was pretty mellow - but one thing was still very obvious - with RP23 rear end was much harsher than the front end - and with Monarch it is the opposite. Need to do something with fork now
    I guess simply PUSHing RP23 would do similar trick, but I am going to take the bike to downhill parks in summer - hopefully there Monarch Plus will shine!

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    I personally have the new rc3 Plus, with a high volume can on my 07 stumpy from PUSH. I am the first to have it... on a stumpy. It's SWEET. I would say the plus is def worth the extra bucks.

    I was lucky, am a local, and Darren actually built me the wrong size shock...bummer, but he, and more specifically Eric stepped up to make it right and offered me the plus at a discount after Eric and I talked about the possibility of it fitting my stumpy.

    They are all really good guys, love to ride and were totally stoked about my new set up as I was the first stumpy with the Plus like I said (and I had my fork Pushed, converted from an RL to RLC, high volume piston conversion, and let out from 120 to 140mm)

    They called it a quote.."mini downhill bike that with the flip of a switch can run a xc race with ease...sweeeeet"

    Do the Monarch, you won't regret it.
    Nothing to it, but to do it......

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    Side note, It was a fluke the boys in blue built the wrong size for me, they were swamped and some how thought I had an 06, in which case it would have been the right size rt3 I had originally ordered.. Thanks again guys for taking care of me and my bike. It's sick.
    Nothing to it, but to do it......

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