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    2008 Enduro SL?

    I'm on the verge of buying a 2007 Enduro SL. Either that, or I'll buy a Stumpy FSR. I'm sitting hard on the fence at the moment, actually. It's a very difficult choice between the two bikes.

    I've heard though, that 2008 model Enduro SLs are on their way soon, possibly by July. And now I'm wondering whether it wouldn't make sense to sit back and wait and see what those new models hold. Does anyone know anything specific about what's in store for next year?

    And hey, if you have any thoughts on the Stumpjumper FSR versus Enduro SL question, I'd love to hear those too. I wouldn't mind buying both bikes, but I do have to exercise a bit of fiscal restraint .

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    check other threads for the same question...

    SL without a doubt

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    Thanks Notahammer. I've read the other Enduro SL threads. Lots of positive comments, to be sure. Price is a bit of an issue. I can get a Stumpy for $2200. The Enduro SL Expert that I'm looking at is $3200. It's a budget-buster, that's for sure. But, doggone it, the SL sure does feel nice when I'm on it. It's like they made the bike for me.

    My big worry at the moment though is how the bike is for riding on level trails. I ride in hilly territory a fair bit, but some of my rides take me into extended areas of relatively flat terrain. I'm sure I'll like the SL while flying down some hill on a trail back in the woods. But will I regret the Enduro SL if I take, say, a 24-mile ride on dirt roads? That right there, I guess, is the question that's haunting me at the moment.

    (And I'm curious about what's new in next year's models).

    And too, there is just this big mental block that I have at paying so much for a bike. It'll be the most I've ever spent on a bike, and by a wide margin. Not sure how I'd ever explain it to my neighbors. One thing I've learned w/bikes though, is that you generally get what you pay for.

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    Thanks Notahammer. I've read the other Enduro SL threads. Lots of positive comments, to be sure. Price is a bit of an issue. I can get a Stumpy for $2200. The Enduro SL Expert that I'm looking at is $3200. It's a budget-buster, that's for sure. But, doggone it, the SL sure does feel nice when I'm on it. It's like they made the bike for me.

    My big worry at the moment though is how the bike is for riding on level trails. I ride in hilly territory a fair bit, but some of my rides take me into extended areas of relatively flat terrain. I'm sure I'll like the SL while flying down some hill on a trail back in the woods. But will I regret the Enduro SL if I take, say, a 24-mile ride on dirt roads? That right there, I guess, is the question that's haunting me at the moment.

    (And I'm curious about what's new in next year's models).

    And too, there is just this big mental block that I have at paying so much for a bike. It'll be the most I've ever spent on a bike, and by a wide margin. Not sure how I'd ever explain it to my neighbors. One thing I've learned w/bikes though, is that you generally get what you pay for.

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    Not sure how I'd ever explain it to my neighbors.
    It must really suck going through life worrying about things like this.

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    Not sure how I'd ever explain it to my neighbors.
    It must really suck going through life worrying about things like this.

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    Not to sway you...

    Get the SL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick
    My big worry at the moment though is how the bike is for riding on level trails. I ride in hilly territory a fair bit, but some of my rides take me into extended areas of relatively flat terrain. I'm sure I'll like the SL while flying down some hill on a trail back in the woods. But will I regret the Enduro SL if I take, say, a 24-mile ride on dirt roads? That right there, I guess, is the question that's haunting me at the moment.
    If you are doing long flat rides on a regular basis, the SL may not be the bike for you. I would want a Epic or a Stumpy. I would be fustrated without a more lockable suspension and the extra weight.
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    Both bikes are totally capable of what you are describing. It is going to come down to comfort, price, and in the end what you like. The Enduro SL will handle those rodes just fine, but the stumpy will most likely be more effiecient. In the same breath, the stumpy is a 5" travel bike, that is capable of ALOT more than people give it credit for......especially since the SL's release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vercingetorix
    If you are doing long flat rides on a regular basis, the SL may not be the bike for you. I would want a Epic or a Stumpy. I would be fustrated without a more lockable suspension and the extra weight.
    Basically, what I wrote. And yes, at this point you have completely over-analyzed this. Just get the Stumpy if you are worried about:

    1. Cost
    2. Weight
    3. Lockout
    4. What the neighbors will say

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    nobody answered his questions about the 2008 sl enduro

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfinn
    It must really suck going through life worrying about things like this.
    Oh, now, I'm not really worried. I was just being a bit tongue-in-cheek there.

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    2008 SL Enduro?? Hmm fork improvements? Maybe a single crown fork. I wonder when will Specialized ever make a uninterupted seatpost for their StumpJumper

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    I know that they were testing a few different shocks to possibly use on the 08 SL, and being its first year out, i am sure there are somethings that are going to change on it for 08.
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    hmm, what you mean by testing a few different shocks? Is it specialized made shocks? Hmm, Im hinting more of their line is going to become Suspension Integeration system. Im sure in years to come, they will come out with their own line of single crown fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    hmm, what you mean by testing a few different shocks? Is it specialized made shocks? Hmm, Im hinting more of their line is going to become Suspension Integeration system. Im sure in years to come, they will come out with their own line of single crown fork.
    Yes it is their in house shocks.
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    Hmm, I have the feeling that in the future, all Specialized bike components will be build in house, wheelset, hubs..you name it

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    They do wheels and hubs already for road, and they are using their new MTB Roval on the factory epics.
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    I stopped by the LBS today and there was a dude from Specialized in, telling them about all the differences in the '08 bikes. I didn't listen in, but you should be able to get the info on the '08 models now or very soon from your bike shop.


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    Inhouse Giblets And Non Frame Items...

    I have put quite a few miles on S bikes and the family has sold many of them over the years. If you know their history, several years ago Spech had their 'in house' brand of hard giblets and major components (no shocks). They may do a decent design on their frames, Horst Leitner deservs the credit for the Horst linkage. As for their production line execution and quality control I have some personal thoughts which would be a far better place for Spech to spend their time rather forcing us buy their new inhouse unproven giblets.

    Spech should leave the hub, and shock business to the pros with a long term and proven expertise in those areas. Need I drop a hint S&M??

    The Stout 'grupo' was a complete failure. For those of you who don't recall the Stout line was Spech's 'in house' effort from hubs, cranks, etc, and I hope that I forgot the others. I say failure from the end user perspective. From Spech's perspective they may have made a bundle of profit but that was at the end users expense in a really negative way and only served to diminished the markets perception of Spech . We used to buy Spech bikes OEM'd only with the Stout garbage and when it prematurely went into failure we spent additional cash with some quality market products more befitting their bike framesets.

    I am a bit disappointed to see the new front and rear 'Stout' forks/shocks. I hear that Spech has also rediscovered the hub market with their latest 'Stout' hub variant, is this rumor or more sad truth?

    Suntour made a fantastic product line but I for one am not interested in their fork/shocks for my current riding pleasure.

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    My 01 Stout hub is still working just fine. No issues in six plus years.

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    Can't see them doing much, from my experience with specialized over 20 years very minor tweaks, something like carbon as a front fork lower (from the Pace DT Swiss thing?) for the S-works, Carbon link. Obviously different colours. Everything else is sorted imho. previously got my next year bikes in OCT in the UK. Now as were on this subject 2009???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSPRINGS
    Spech should leave the hub, and shock business to the pros with a long term and proven expertise in those areas. Need I drop a hint S&M??

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    But Spesh hired the "pro's" for development for the Enduro SL suspension.

    If a product performs well and is reasonably priced and holds up well, I dont care who's name brand is on it.

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    hmm, whats the difference in frame between a carbon S-Works and a non S-Works carbon bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSPRINGS

    Spech should leave the hub, and shock business to the pros with a long term and proven expertise in those areas. Need I drop a hint S&M??
    I said the same thing when Fox introduced their forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    hmm, whats the difference in frame between a carbon S-Works and a non S-Works carbon bike?
    The Pro has Fact 9 carbon, S-works is Fact 10 (Suposed to be lighter, stronger, more durable). Those are just names spesh has given their carbons but there are very definately differences in quality from one carbon to the next. This is why you have such a wide range in cost for carbon frames.

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    ooh I see, but the Fact 9 is still good right? Hmm before the Fact 10 was released, did Specialized use Fact 9 on their S-Works frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyRider
    The Pro has Fact 9 carbon, S-works is Fact 10 (Suposed to be lighter, stronger, more durable). Those are just names spesh has given their carbons but there are very definately differences in quality from one carbon to the next. This is why you have such a wide range in cost for carbon frames.

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    The Specialized Rep told me the Fact 9 is just as strong and durable as the Fact 10, it just takes a little more material to do so, which increases the weight by 80-100 grams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    ooh I see, but the Fact 9 is still good right? Hmm before the Fact 10 was released, did Specialized use Fact 9 on their S-Works frame?
    Not only is Fact 9 'still good', I think the blue finsh is much nicer than the Fact 10.

    Since this is a new model, I think they came out with the Pro and S-Works at the same time.
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    Since I was the one to begin this thread, I'll just come back and say that I fell of the proverbial fence onto the Enduro SL side, blew the budget, and bought the bike. It was a very tough call. I went back to the dealer for another visit and spent maybe an hour swapping back and forth, riding up and down a nearby hill, around the block, up and down the nearby paved bike path. I finally decided that I liked the slacker angles of the SL, and also the somewhat plushier feel to the suspension. Both bikes are very nice to ride though. Choosing between them really was tough.

    I can't say enough good things about the dealer. Poor guy. He's had to endure weeks
    of my tire-kicking and test-riding before I managed to decide. I actually had begun looking for a full-suspension bike last fall. He's let me demo several bikes on my own trails. I feel like I've taken half the bikes in his shop out for rides in the neighborhood near his shop (to get a feel for how the different designs compare). I've waffled. I've dithered. I've badgered him with questions. Finally I bought something.

    Had to leave town Friday right after buying the bike, so today is my first day to actually ride it on some trails. Can't wait to get out. Riding weather is just awesome today where I'm at. It's gonna be a good day.

    BTW, Vercingetorix, I too prefer the blue carbon finish over the black. (But carbon anything is way out of my league).

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    what bike are you comparing it to? And which Enduro SL you got?

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