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    '06 Demo 8 I vs newer versions of demo?

    According to the geometry numbers on the website, the 06 Demo 8 is really not all that different from the newer version(s).... so I was wondering if anybody who has ridden both the old ('06) and newer ('07-09) or newest ('10) could let me know if the 06 really gives up anything in the areas of handling or suspension.

    I know the HA and BB have changed a little, but the '06 in the slack setting sounds like a really good compromise on paper (I don't need WC DH geometry). I can also see that the shock is driven a little differently and the frame tubes are very different, but functionally, it all seems very similar.

    As for components, the stock set-up on the '06 Demo 8 I seems adequate (but not excellent)... any weaknesses there to watch out for?

    My 160mm coil-susp enduro has served me well, but it is starting to hold me back at higher speeds and rougher terrain. My next bike will see local shuttles and east-coast bike parks over the summer along with maybe a couple of beginner races. My main use is just for fun, not racing. And my budget is tight, but I have been seeing lightly used 05-06 Demos really dropping in price.

    Would I be making a mistake in shopping for an '06-ish Demo 8 I or II?

    Thanks for any insights...
    You better just go ahead and drop that seatpost down to the reflector... the trail gets pretty rough down there.

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    I ride a 2006 Demo 8 I, so I can talk a bit about that. Unfortunately, I can't help you with the comparison part of your question.

    The short synopsis is that it's a great working man's freeride and park bike. In the slack setting, the head angle is a full two degrees steeper than a new Demo, which you would definitely notice on steep terrain. Even at the time, that wasn't really DH geometry. It's a good parts-spec for durability and price, though.

    Things to watch out for?
    1. I don't love the brakes. I find the Juicy 5s to be about the same as Hayes HFX-9s of the same vintage, which is to say, not a lot of modulation and mediocre stopping power.
    2. The fork is decent, but not awesome. If you ride the stock 888 RC2 and then a more expensive fork in back-to-back runs, you will definitely notice.
    3. I have a tiny bit of play somewhere in the shock mount when in the slack setting. I have replaced the DU bushings to no avail. I am starting to wonder if the mounting holes are slightly ovalized. Not sure if this is common or unique to my bike.
    4. The bottom bracket and cranks can be problematic. I had to replace the original BB and even still, the non-drive side crank will occasionally back itself off. Just means I have to carry an 8mm tool and check it periodically. Not a big deal, but a bit of a pain.

    The bottom line, though, is that I love my bike. It's the first big bike that I have kept for more than two seasons. When it comes time to replace it, it will almost certainly be with another Demo ... or maybe an SX Trail. I do between 10 and 15 days per year at bike parks around BC, and so far it has stood up to the abuse admirably.

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    hi

    [QUOTE=Thaumaturge]
    3. I have a tiny bit of play somewhere in the shock mount when in the slack setting. I have replaced the DU bushings to no avail. I am starting to wonder if the mounting holes are slightly ovalized. Not sure if this is common or unique to my bike.

    I had that same problem on my 06. Turns out there wernt enough threads on the foward mounting bolt. This fixed it for me: Put a 1 mm washer under the hex head of the shock bolt. You should be able to tighten the bolt more because more threads are available. Good luck
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    [QUOTE=Demodude]
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaumaturge
    3. I have a tiny bit of play somewhere in the shock mount when in the slack setting. I have replaced the DU bushings to no avail. I am starting to wonder if the mounting holes are slightly ovalized. Not sure if this is common or unique to my bike.

    I had that same problem on my 06. Turns out there wernt enough threads on the foward mounting bolt. This fixed it for me: Put a 1 mm washer under the hex head of the shock bolt. You should be able to tighten the bolt more because more threads are available. Good luck
    Yeah, I heard about the shock play somewhere else... seems like an easy fix, though...

    Thamaturge: I appreciate your insight. I know the HA will give up a little bit of stability, but I'd do better with a slightly less-choppered bike on most of my riding. My bud's Demo 7 feels about right to me, should be close to the geo of the '06 D8 (give or take a degree/mm here and there).
    You better just go ahead and drop that seatpost down to the reflector... the trail gets pretty rough down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demodude
    I had that same problem on my 06. Turns out there wernt enough threads on the foward mounting bolt. This fixed it for me: Put a 1 mm washer under the hex head of the shock bolt. You should be able to tighten the bolt more because more threads are available. Good luck
    I'm going to give that a whirl. If this works for me, you are my hero!

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