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    05/06 Enduro vs SX Trail.

    I'm considering downsizing my DH sled into a heavily specced, heavy duty trail bike.

    The SX Trail is pretty much exactly the frame I want, but standard Enduros are a lot easier to find.

    Has anyone done a frame comparison between the two to find the differences?
    The places that I'm interested in are:
    Geometry.
    Shock length/clearance
    Headtube reinforcement
    Rear axle type (pretty sure the SX is 12mm, normal Enduro QR).
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    I haven't done a detailed examination of differences, but the two seem more similar than different. The SXT is supposed to be slacker and stronger, but...

    The challenge with the geo differences is the two bikes were specced with different shock i-to-i and fork ACs. Throw in the geo adjust shock mount (which is different on the SXT) and the numbers run amuck.

    The Specialized USA site has info on the 06 bikes, including geo.

    I replaced the rear shock on my 06 Enduro to a 2.5 stoke to achieve a 6" travel bike with a stupid low 13.25" BB while still maintaining the 68 degree HTA. I call it my mini-DH bike, but it is still good for going up and 30 mile rides too.

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    the sxt is slacker and has more travel. the 06 has 167mm and the 07 has 170mm The chainstays on the SXT were also beefed up on the late 06 and 07's. HT are is also beefier. They are both QR but I use a bolt on 10mm on my SXT. If you look at the numbers there are many differences. Forget the regular enduro I have an 07 SXT and it is a mini dh. A friend of mine has the reg. enduro and they are night and day.
    SXT Size S M L XL

    Seat Tube Length, Center to Top 432mm 457mm 483mm 533mm

    Top Tube Length (Horizontal) 556mm 579mm 606mm 638mm

    Top Tube Length (Actual) 526mm 547mm 574mm 613mm

    Chainstay Length 424mm 424mm 424mm 424mm

    Bottom Bracket Height Low/Mid 356mm 356mm 356mm 356mm

    Bottom Bracket Height High/Mid 369mm 369mm 369mm 369mm

    Seat Tube Angle Low/Mid 70° 70° 70° 70°

    Seat Tube Angle High/Mid 71° 71° 71° 71°

    Head Tube Angle Low/Mid 66.5° 66.5° 66.5° 66.5°

    Head Tube Angle High/Mid 67.5° 67.5° 67.5° 67.5°

    Wheel Base 1132mm 1155mm 1182mm 1214mm

    Standover Height 769mm 771mm 785mm 808mm

    regular enduro Size S M L XL

    Seat Tube Length, Center to Top 432mm 457mm 483mm 533mm

    Top Tube Length 566mm 596mm 623mm 656mm

    Top Tube Length 528mm 562mm 590mm 633mm

    Chainstay Length 424mm 424mm 424mm 424mm

    Bottom Bracket Height Low/Mid 337mm 337mm 337mm 337mm

    Bottom Bracket Height High/Mid 349mm 349mm 349mm 349mm

    Seat Tube Angle Low/Mid 68° 68° 68° 68°

    Seat Tube Angle High/Mid 69° 69° 69° 69°

    Head Tube Angle Low/Mid 68° 68° 68° 68°

    Head Tube Angle High/Mid 69° 69° 69° 69°

    Wheel Base 1097mm 1129mm 1156mm 1189mm

    Standover Height 705mm

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    The real reason I'm asking is there's a second hand enduro frame going near me. I'm figuring out how close I can get it in feel to an SX-trail.

    What's the shock i2i on each of them? I'm asking to see what coil shocks I can throw into the regular enduro, I really hate the feel of the 5th elephant air shock in it.

    From those figures (thanks Quickneont) the SXT has a longer TT, obviously offset by a shorter stem but interesting indeed.

    My regular trail ride is a Turner RFX/6 Pack with horst link. I'm downsizing my sled to something heavier specced than that, that can be pedalled. I'm agonising over an 06 bighit, SX-trail or Demo 7.
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    The 07 sxt has 9.0x2.75 shock. the ht angle is going to make a huge difference how it handles. The regular enduo has too steep of a ht to be fast or confident (at least for me) on the downhills. The bighits are pigs for all around riding. I am not sure how the d7 would be. I have a d9 and loved it but then I built the SXT and my demo now collects dust. Mine is built kind of on the heavy side but I use it mostly at Diablo and it is perfect for there.

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    Looks like I need to put some pressure on my local adventure guide to upgrade.
    I've already booked "first offer" on his SX Trail, but he loves it a little much.
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    I’ve been riding a 05’ Enduro as a ‘mini DH bike. I run a Romic coil on the rear with a Pike up front. This bike is a ton of fun and has held up way better than imagined.




    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    The real reason I'm asking is there's a second hand enduro frame going near me. I'm figuring out how close I can get it in feel to an SX-trail.

    What's the shock i2i on each of them? I'm asking to see what coil shocks I can throw into the regular enduro, I really hate the feel of the 5th elephant air shock in it.

    From those figures (thanks Quickneont) the SXT has a longer TT, obviously offset by a shorter stem but interesting indeed.

    My regular trail ride is a Turner RFX/6 Pack with horst link. I'm downsizing my sled to something heavier specced than that, that can be pedalled. I'm agonising over an 06 bighit, SX-trail or Demo 7.

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