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    04 Stumpy rear triangle

    Should I be concerned about this?
    The GF's bike has been squeaking so I took the rear apart to grease up the pivots. When I disconnected the linkage I had to pull fairly hard to seperate them, and when it did felt like they had been bound up. I didn't think much of it until I went to put it back together, which is when I noticed how out of wack things are.

    Is this normal? Warranty repair? She has taken a few spills, but nothing to ever bend the rear end this far out of wack.
    You can see the rear has been bent to teh right almost 1/4 inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Should I be concerned about this?
    The GF's bike has been squeaking so I took the rear apart to grease up the pivots. When I disconnected the linkage I had to pull fairly hard to seperate them, and when it did felt like they had been bound up. I didn't think much of it until I went to put it back together, which is when I noticed how out of wack things are.

    Is this normal? Warranty repair? She has taken a few spills, but nothing to ever bend the rear end this far out of wack.
    You can see the rear has been bent to teh right almost 1/4 inch.
    Hi,

    JakeWake here - Engineer at Specialized. Some misalignment as you indicate is perfectly normal and won't affect anything. However 1/4" is a little on on the high side, but I still wouldn't worry about it.

    One thing you can do is loosen all the pivots 1 full turn. Then re-connet the seatstay to the shock link. This allows everything to find its most neutral position. Then re-tighten every thing. This will give you the best alignment.

    If it still bothers you, take it too your LBS and we'll take care of you. But since it doesn't affect anything, I'd spend my time riding it.

    JW

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake
    Hi,

    JakeWake here - Engineer at Specialized.

    Engineer...........so you wear bib overhalls and drive trains?


    Jake,
    sorry to hijack the thread, but is there going to be a 100mm Stumpjumper for 2006?
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    Hey Jake Wake!

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake
    Hi,

    JakeWake here - Engineer at Specialized. Some misalignment as you indicate is perfectly normal and won't affect anything. However 1/4" is a little on on the high side, but I still wouldn't worry about it.

    One thing you can do is loosen all the pivots 1 full turn. Then re-connet the seatstay to the shock link. This allows everything to find its most neutral position. Then re-tighten every thing. This will give you the best alignment.

    If it still bothers you, take it too your LBS and we'll take care of you. But since it doesn't affect anything, I'd spend my time riding it.

    JW
    What torque setting for all pivots? I just got an 04 Stumpy 100 as warranty replacement. It took about 80inch-pounds to break them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hass
    Engineer...........so you wear bib overhalls and drive trains?


    Jake,
    sorry to hijack the thread, but is there going to be a 100mm Stumpjumper for 2006?

    The SJ 100 as you know it will not exist in the 2006 line.

    However, you will find that either the Epic or SJ 120 will fit your needs.

    The '06 Epic now has an adjustable Brain which can give you the ride quality of a SJ.

    The '06 SJ 120 is a lighter frame than the 100 and now comes with Brain technology at the top levels. So it climbs and descends better. What more could you ask for?

    JW

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Works
    What torque setting for all pivots? I just got an 04 Stumpy 100 as warranty replacement. It took about 80inch-pounds to break them.

    The torque specs are available on our web-site.

    The loc-tite usually makes removing them feel like a lot of torque, but you also fighting against the loc-tite bond, so they generally feel pretty tight coming out.

    JW

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    Thanks Jake for posting here it's nice to see someone from Specialized on the forums. My 04 S-works Enduro has the same mis-allignment of the rear triangle and it's good to read that it's no big deal.

    Again thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake
    The torque specs are available on our web-site.


    JW
    Could you post a URL to locate where these specs are, or provide some other guidance? I have searched all over the Specialized site looking for torque specs for my "04 Stumpy and could not find them?

    Thanks, I hope.

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    Thanks for the feedback JakeWake.
    My only problem with it being this misaligned is getting the bolts back in.
    I had to struggle with a few bolts and thought for a while I would never get it back together.

    On a side note, can the ITCH shock be ordered from you guys for the Enduro? My buddy may be buying a new 2005 Comp 130, but they don't come with the ITCH anymore. I absolutley love mine and couldn't see riding the bike without one. Would the older shock even fit the new model. They look identical to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Beam
    Could you post a URL to locate where these specs are, or provide some other guidance? I have searched all over the Specialized site looking for torque specs for my "04 Stumpy and could not find them?

    Thanks, I hope.
    Use HELP under their site and enter a search
    http://specialized.custhelp.com/cgi-...ted=1072748211
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    ...People thought they were getting a good fork because it was a "fox".

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    It is easiest to reassemble if you put the dropout pivot together last.

    ITCH - that is a good one. You'll have to contact Specialized Customer Service or Fox. I think it will be tough to get though.

    JW



    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Thanks for the feedback JakeWake.
    My only problem with it being this misaligned is getting the bolts back in.
    I had to struggle with a few bolts and thought for a while I would never get it back together.

    On a side note, can the ITCH shock be ordered from you guys for the Enduro? My buddy may be buying a new 2005 Comp 130, but they don't come with the ITCH anymore. I absolutley love mine and couldn't see riding the bike without one. Would the older shock even fit the new model. They look identical to me.


    Thanks




    Use HELP under their site and enter a search
    http://specialized.custhelp.com/cgi-...ted=1072748211

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake
    It is easiest to reassemble if you put the dropout pivot together last.
    JW
    Dropout? That's the pivot right behind the bottom bracket?
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    No the drop out is where you rear wheel is attached to the frame so it would be the pivot just infront of the rear axel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake
    The torque specs are available on our web-site.

    The loc-tite usually makes removing them feel like a lot of torque, but you also fighting against the loc-tite bond, so they generally feel pretty tight coming out.

    JW
    Didn't find any info on torque specs. on the site.

    here's the text of what the site had in the support section:

    Torque specs for FSR's
    Question
    What are the torque specs for the pivots on the FSR's?
    Answer
    None available


    So, do have this info, or direct me to another source?

    TIA
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    Download the Tech manual from the site, it has all the Torque specs in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Works
    Didn't find any info on torque specs. on the site.

    here's the text of what the site had in the support section:

    Torque specs for FSR's
    Question
    What are the torque specs for the pivots on the FSR's?
    Answer
    None available


    So, do have this info, or direct me to another source?

    TIA
    Right here dude:
    http://specialized.custhelp.com/cgi-...ted=1072748211

    On page 11 there is a chart that references items in a diagram on page 10. For example, item 2C should be torqued to 70-90 in-lbs. Torque specs are in the far right column.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murchman
    No the drop out is where you rear wheel is attached to the frame so it would be the pivot just infront of the rear axel.
    Thanks for the clarification.
    Those bolts will probably be the most difficult to get in. I had a real hard time with the right one when it wasn't attached anywhere else. In fact, the right side (by derailer) looked fairly our of alignment, which caused the bolt to be a huge pain to thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Right here dude:
    http://specialized.custhelp.com/cgi-...ted=1072748211

    On page 11 there is a chart that references items in a diagram on page 10. For example, item 2C should be torqued to 70-90 in-lbs. Torque specs are in the far right column.


    Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
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