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    Mount Dora Trail official thread.

    We are close to getting this trail officially legalized so thought I'd start it's own thread. We have started construction on it and are just waiting on the attorneys to come to an agreement before we have an official work day to really get it completed. It shouldn't be long from now though.

    Here's a quick sample of the trail done with a crappy digital camera. Hit a huge spider web where I stopped. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NdN-kgZgHxw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NdN-kgZgHxw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
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    Cool video, but my head is still bobbing after watching the video.....LOL! Looks like its going to be a real sweet trail once groomed. Whats the word on any real technical challenge? You know, like jumps, drops to huck, skinnies, rollers, or even rock gardens...etc.?

    Would be nice to have this trail, though it could never replace Santos, Alafia, nor Carter, but a heck of a lot closer. Great job guys and gals getting this trail pushed through. Seriously!

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    Wow, things have come a long way in the past month or so. Between getting my bike stolen and traveling back and forth to S.FL for family business I haven't had much time to check up on things. My birthday is on Sunday and I'm thinking about getting myself a new bike. I'm thinking a Jamis Komodo won't be too plush for FL riding, but have some meat on it's bones to soak up some drops. Or do you guys think that a Jamis Dakar XC would have enough of a backbone for some hard riding? I'd love to get a FS bike but they're much more expensive than a hardtail so I don't want to spend more money on a bike that I don't need...

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    I drove over the the Icehouse Theatre the other day and I couldn't see where the trailhead would be. I drove over to the dog park area too and saw what looked to be an entrance to a trail. Can anyone explain where the trailhead will be?

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    Anyone out there?

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    Congrats man. Wish things went as smoothly here where I am. The political bs down here in South Florida is not so simple. There are some trails that have been approved already and little legal shits still holding it from being built.
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    Mt Dora = the Mt Dora near Eustis / Tavares?
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Mt Dora = the Mt Dora near Eustis / Tavares?

    The one and only! I really wish Mt. Dora Cycles would reply to this thread. I was looking for the trailhead the other day and I can't seem to find it. My new bike comes in on Saturday and I'm itching to get back in the saddle...

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    Trail not yet open!!!

    Please, this trail is not yet "legal", nor is construction complete.
    Again, the trail is not open!
    The Ocala Mountain Bike Association is close to finalizing the legal agreement with the City of Mount Dora on this new trail. Until that has happened and we have official work days for construction, please do not ride this trail. Do not screw it up before we get it off the ground!

    Keep your eyes on the forum and homepage of www.omba.org for more information on this trail.

    The entrance will temporarily be near the dog park until construction of the new park and parking lot w/facilities is complete on 9th Avenue. Following park construction, the trails will be accessed from this location.

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    Hey Rob, sorry if that came out a little off. I wasn't looking to ride the trail, nor will I be when my bike arrives. I was just in the neighborhood and was trying to find where the trailhead would be. I'm itching to get out there and start cutting though! Thanks for the reply.

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    Like Rob said, please don't go out there riding it yet. The video was just a preview to show what to expect. It isn't completed yet anyways so you won't enjoy it. Please have some patience, nobody expected Mount Dora's attorneys to be this difficult to deal with. Let me tell you though, it will be worth the wait. It's turning out to be a short loop, but very difficult endurance wise. I can't wait till it's open.
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    Aww... endurance? Will there be room to expand? Don't worry, I won't be riding out there until it's open.

    oh, where did you move your shop to? My new bike just came in and I need some stuff.

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    City Council Meeting, Tuesday night

    The Mount Dora City Council will be meeting this tuesday night at 7 pm to consider the agreement between the City and OMBA allowing us to construct and maintain these new trails. Show up if you are able, or email the council members with your words of support. Keep is short and respectful.

    We're very close!!
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    Awesome, I'll try my best to make it out to the meeting.

    Nobody knows where Mount Dora Cycles moved the shop? I guess I'll be taking my business elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by [dB]Will
    Awesome, I'll try my best to make it out to the meeting.

    Nobody knows where Mount Dora Cycles moved the shop? I guess I'll be taking my business elsewhere
    Contact Rich (Mt Dora Cycles). He has not reopened his shop yet. He's working on getting it. He's a great mechanic and can still order parts/items you need. I'm sure he will get on here and respond. Give him time.

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    Sorry I couldn't make it out Tuesday. Prior plans along with the Hell that was this past week prevented me from attending. Any good news? Any update on when we can start cutting/riding?

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    What's the elevation out there? is there another FL Trail you could compare it to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker
    What's the elevation out there? is there another FL Trail you could compare it to?
    Not quite sure what the elevation is exactly. I know that the trail is roughly a mile long and has around 200ft of elevation change. I cannot think of any of the trails around Central FL that are similar. It's in a hole and is HOT and HUMID!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASpot13
    Not quite sure what the elevation is exactly. I know that the trail is roughly a mile long and has around 200ft of elevation change. I cannot think of any of the trails around Central FL that are similar. It's in a hole and is HOT and HUMID!!!!

    wait, so it is hot and humid and there are no other trails in central florida that are similar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbatson
    wait, so it is hot and humid and there are no other trails in central florida that are similar?
    It's worse than any other trail I've ridden in central florida. Santos/Carter/Reddick/etc...don't compare. It's incredibly thick vegetation in a pit. The heat and humidity just sit and there is no breeze. However, it's a great workout and excellent training loop with the amount of elevation. BTW, conditions are a little dusty back there right now, it could use a good rain.

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    Id say Soldiers Creek is in a whole with thick vegetation.

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    Sorry I haven't checked this lately. The agreement was accepted and the trail is official now. We are working on setting up a group work day to clean whats been cut so far and look into new section to blaze. As posted, it does have a lot of elevation change, it is short for right now, and it does get hot and humid back there. Think rain forest here. The misquotes are so big they can knock the wind out of you on downhill sections. I swear one smiled at me before taking half my blood while doing work back there.

    As far as my shop, I still haven't re-opened. Wished I could but the economy sucks and most locals in this area are hurting pretty bad. Not to mention the landlords of Mt Dora have the city by the balls and can charge crazy amounts for old run down buildings. I do love this city though. I'll be back open soon.
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    Glad to hear you'll be back at some point! I have Friday off and can help out but I'll be out of town the rest of the weekend. I have a lot of free time on my hands usually so I'm willing to go out there and work by my lonesome during the week as well. I'm just itching to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmitty8225
    Id say Soldiers Creek is in a whole with thick vegetation.
    Where do you get that from, Soldiers Creek is not even in a whole (what you said and whatever that means) nor a hole. Not sure what you mean by thick with vegetation either???? It is a typical FL trail as most trails in the SE are!

    Maybe you are smoking some vegetation, hey?

    Soldiers Creek is not long, but it has always been fun for such a short trail.

    Anyways, getting over vegetation head above. Great to hear that the trail is official now. That makes the first one, now they need to officially get the Orlando MTB trail on the books as well. Now, any one that does not like vegetation, go west! WAY WEST!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiliPepper1
    Where do you get that from, Soldiers Creek is not even in a whole (what you said and whatever that means) nor a hole. Not sure what you mean by thick with vegetation either???? It is a typical FL trail as most trails in the SE are!

    Maybe you are smoking some vegetation, hey?

    Soldiers Creek is not long, but it has always been fun for such a short trail.

    Anyways, getting over vegetation head above. Great to hear that the trail is official now. That makes the first one, now they need to officially get the Orlando MTB trail on the books as well. Now, any one that does not like vegetation, go west! WAY WEST!!
    Nah, I wouldn't say Soliders Creek is like anything else. Santos, Balm, Snowhill, Markham, Oleta, or Amelia are not like Soldiers Creek. Soldiers Creek has water running through it and during the heat of the day the trees that form a canopy over the entire trail keep the moisture in and if you do the newish section that is about a quarter mile long its just muggy as **** in there. The only place that Ive ridden that may be similar at points in Alafia and that is only in parts with water next to it and trees preventing the water from escaping.
    The Orlando park has a meeting next Tuesday because one neighbor doesnt like the idea of it but aside from that, it has been pretty smooth sailing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmitty8225
    Nah, I wouldn't say Soliders Creek is like anything else. Santos, Balm, Snowhill, Markham, Oleta, or Amelia are not like Soldiers Creek. Soldiers Creek has water running through it and during the heat of the day the trees that form a canopy over the entire trail keep the moisture in and if you do the newish section that is about a quarter mile long its just muggy as **** in there. The only place that Ive ridden that may be similar at points in Alafia and that is only in parts with water next to it and trees preventing the water from escaping.
    The Orlando park has a meeting next Tuesday because one neighbor doesnt like the idea of it but aside from that, it has been pretty smooth sailing.
    OK! Still like any other trail here in central/south FL during our summer months....."tropical jungle, sweltering heat, and usually always water or wet"..

    Anyways, back to the threads topic......

    SAD, there is always a sour or rotten apple in the bunch. Well, if they don't like it, then they can move! Most likely a transplant from up north anyways.....

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    I've got two chainsaws, weedeater, hedge trimmer, rakes, loppers and an empty Saturday next week. Im down for a work day.

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    Here's an overhead of the trail tracked from my phone. You can see there is still some unused land to develop into more difficult sections in the future. We basically have a perimeter cut out right now.
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    maybe something like this?
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    Hey Richard, That looks awesome! Are we going to build any type of bridge(s) over the creek? If so let me know and I will keep my eye out for material. -BobG

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    Yes, we will be building a bridge over the little ravine that we ride through now. Concrete and pressure treated wood will be nice. I was hoping to have a work day out there soon to take care of it but things have been going slow with the Orlando trail going on at the same time. Big cities take presidence(sp) I guess? We also need signage installed before it can be opened up officially.
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    Well, I don't really plan on going to the Orlando trail to work but am always free to do some work around here. It's so close, I'd love to help get it ready to ride.

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    Im sure if you had the work days for this trail on different days than the OMBP you'd get a good sized crowd. You can also goto the OMBP work days and talk about the trails at Mt Dora because Im sure a good amount of people don't even know about it.

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    So... what's up? I have the rest of today and tomorrow off. I can go clear some crap if you'd like. Also off all weekend if you want to setup a work day on Sunday or something...

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    Any news on what's up with this? I'm about to just take it upon myself to get out there to work and ride. There is obviously a bunch of volunteers for work but nothing is getting done. I'm sure this is why the city signed off on this...

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    Getting together with OMBA tomorrow to walk the trail and see what else is needed before we schedule a work day. It is looking to be around September 25th. We need signage installed and a bridge built for sure, but as far as the rest of the trail, it looks pretty nice right now. It seems to be holding up well, even with all this rain we have been having.
    Will, you just need some patience. It takes time and we want it to last. Build it right the first time and maintenance will be less in the future.
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    Patience has gotten me f*ck all. If you can get a little done before a full day, why not? Clear out a couple branches, run the grass down a little bit, whatever. I don't have the time to drive to Santos or any other trail system around central FL so I'm a bit anxious to finally have a trail and something to do in this hell-hole. But that's cool, I'll just let you guys do your thing and I'll just ride.

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    We are trying to schedule a work day for Sept. 25th. The trail walk went well with and it looks good. Some modifications needed for a sustainable trail and also make it more enjoyable. Signage shouldn't be a problem as Mt Dora has graciously decided to pay for them. Just need to get them made in time for the work day.

    Thanks everyone!
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    Agreement is signed. Trail is official.
    Inaugural work day is scheduled for Sept 25th at 8am
    Tell your friends, please come.
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    Bump?

    Work day next week.

    I can hardly contain myself.

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    Just updating this. Workday is still on Saturday the 25th, meeting at 8:30am. OMBA is providing food and drinks. OMBA's newsletter says meet at the end of 9th ave. I've been telling people to meet at the dog park at the end of 11th Ave. Check both if you don't see people at either one side or the other.

    I unfortunately won't be there. I didn't realize 6 Gap is the same weekend so I'll be in North Georgia killing myself while you guys are having fun. I wished I could be there though.
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    New trail layout.
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    Note, workday tomorrow is rain or shine....unless it's lightning, then we drink beer and eat pizza!

    Also, workday starts at 8 am, not 8:30 am.
    Hope to see lots of folks there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robe2
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    Also, workday starts at 8 am, not 8:30 am.!

    So you're saying that if I show up at 9 or 10am I won't be welcome? It's Saturday, I'm not getting paid and I'm volunteering work. I think it'll be alright if I'm a bit late to the "party"

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    We're all volunteers, Will. You're right, it's Saturday, and I'd rather be in bed with my wife, waking up to my kids and having fun, but I'm giving up yet another Saturday to help build trail...do whatever you want.
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    Had a great turnout today for our first Mount Dora workday. We had about 30 volunteers come out and work in the sauna today. We got a great bridge built, installed carsonite trail markers along the entire trail, bench cut a couple of hundred feet of trail, installed two benches and did lots of general trimming and lopping. Great day! Come ride the new trail, it's fun! Temporary parking lot is off of 11th, just past the dog park, the city built a gravel parking lot. follow the gravel path south into the grove, then turn left into the trail and follow the carsonite markers counterclockwise. Have fun!
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    Welp, I slept through my alarm and didn't make it to the work day, but I did go check out the trail around 4:30pm. I really like it but it is a hell of a lot of climbing in soft sand and leaves. The downhill bits are fun and everything (bridges, benches, trail) looks really nice. Great job by the workers. I have a couple comments though (not like my opinion matters)...

    1)Either warn people that they need a GPS or mark up the route a little better. I went to do 1 loop and ended up doing 2 unknowingly. Then, I spent about 30 minutes walking around just to find the path to the parking lot. It's not really fun feeling like you're lost in the middle of the woods.

    2) The wide fire-lane style area as you first start getting to the start of the trail would make a great place for a DH/FR/Skills/Dual Slalom area. There is plenty of room for an access line to the trail on one side while having the 'expert' style area off to the side. Would be great for dirt jumps, pump track, or like I said, a dual slalom/skills/dh/fr area.


    Just a couple thoughts I had whilst enjoying the fun new local trail


    *edit: it felt like I was going counter-clockwise but I may have been going the wrong way the entire time. I heard there was more downhill sections than climbing sections but I felt differently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robe2
    We're all volunteers, Will. You're right, it's Saturday, and I'd rather be in bed with my wife, waking up to my kids and having fun, but I'm giving up yet another Saturday to help build trail...do whatever you want.
    No need to get angry, I just didn't see the point in the comment you made. Any extra help should be welcomed and not looked down upon if you aren't able to make it there on time. Plus, I'd hardly consider 8am-Noon "giving up" your Saturday.

    Great job out there today, though. I really enjoyed the trail and fully intend on making an appearance at the next work day. Is going out there and doing a little cleanup (i.e. clearing branches/grass/leaves) during the week or on a non-work day discouraged?

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