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    Huntsville Thread

    For all you people that live in huntsville alabama, the great rocket city, this is dedicated for us, to discus trails, bikes, demo days, and whatever else goes on. So heres for huntsville!

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    OK, for all those that don't know there is a weekly wednesday night ride. It starts from bikers parking lot on Monte Sano at approx. 5-5:30.

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    Figured a trail list would be a good thing (I can add to the list if you guys post something I missed... to have one list. The below are off the top of my head):
    Monte Sano State Park
    Monte Sano - AL Land Trust
    Green Mtn - AL Land Trust
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    Wheeler Wildlife Refuge - Decatur
    Hayes Preserve - Hampton Cove
    Bankhead National Forest - Wren (Pine Torch/Brushy Creek)
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    Also, there is a core group of 'beat-the-heat' riders that meet up at 7:00 am every Saturday and Sunday.

    But, this Saturday, a few of us are going to Tullehoma to ride the Arnold AFB trail.
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    There is also Ladies Night that my wife periodically rides with SORBA HSV. Mon nights at 5:30 at the Monte Sano State Park bike trail head. She enjoys it and says it's not like riding with a bunch of agressive guys that leave you behind. Any ladies out there, don't be afraid.... PM me if any of those lady members want to get in touch with my wife for any info.

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    Is there anyone in the HSV area that has interest in/rides DH? Any gravity junky dual crowners out there?

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    You need to check out Windrock, Tennessee.

    Doug (AL29'er) and I are both wanting to road trip there some time. The only caveat, you have to provide for your own shuttle service, as there is none available there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker
    The only caveat, you have to provide for your own shuttle service, as there is none available there.
    I am surprised you didn't mention it on Sun. BTW, that's what Heither does for me, drop and pick me up. She has no interest in going fast DH, she's content with XC. I am going to keep working on her, maybe she'll take it up in due time.

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    i love DH, whats the best DH trail around HSV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker
    Also, there is a core group of 'beat-the-heat' riders that meet up at 7:00 am every Saturday and Sunday.

    But, this Saturday, a few of us are going to Tullehoma to ride the Arnold AFB trail.

    Now this is what I'm talking about, beat the heat and let someone else clear the spider webs with their face!!! Do they do this on Monte Sano?
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    check this out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    Now this is what I'm talking about, beat the heat and let someone else clear the spider webs with their face!!! Do they do this on Monte Sano?
    Yes, Monte Sano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    i love DH, whats the best DH trail around HSV?
    Not sure, I am on a mission to find out. Creeper had a good suggestion on Green Mtn, but haven't checked it out yet. I did Bluff Line from Monte Sano Blvd down to the Land Trust Parking lot. It was good from the top to about 1/2 way down until it intersection of Anndale and Wagon. Pretty technical and lots of large rocks. One rock in particular got the best of me. I wouldn't suggest it unless you have the correct equipment/protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    Not sure, I am on a mission to find out. Creeper had a good suggestion on Green Mtn, but haven't checked it out yet. I did Bluff Line from Monte Sano Blvd down to the Land Trust Parking lot. It was good from the top to about 1/2 way down until it intersection of Anndale and Wagon. Pretty technical and lots of large rocks. One rock in particular got the best of me. I wouldn't suggest it unless you have the correct equipment/protection.

    alright, does anyone meet during the week for DH rides?

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    For the past few weeks, I have been taking both bikes with me as my wife rides with XC only. After an hour or two of XC, I usually pull out the other bike and have my wife drop me off somewhere and pick me up. So I end the day with a short DH ride.

    Also, I have every other Friday off. This Friday, I was either thinking of going to Wade Mtn and doing Devil's Race Track down or scouting out something new, ie. the other side of Wade Mtn or Belvin's Gap on Green Mtn.

    Typically I have to hike a bike up, as the DH rig only has one crank chain ring and isn't much of a climbing bike. (I don't have the legs I used to).

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    For the past few weeks, I have been taking both bikes with me as my wife rides with XC only. After an hour or two of XC, I usually pull out the other bike and have my wife drop me off somewhere and pick me up. So I end the day with a short DH ride.

    Also, I have every other Friday off. This Friday, I was either thinking of going to Wade Mtn and doing Devil's Race Track down or scouting out something new, ie. the other side of Wade Mtn or Belvin's Gap on Green Mtn.

    Typically I have to hike a bike up, as the DH rig only has one crank chain ring and isn't much of a climbing bike. (I don't have the legs I used to).
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    One of you guys were looking for Land Trust Trail Maps. Download the pdfs here (the jpgs are too low res): http://landtrust-hsv.org/trail-maps/

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker
    You need to check out Windrock, Tennessee.

    Doug (AL29'er) and I are both wanting to road trip there some time. The only caveat, you have to provide for your own shuttle service, as there is none available there.
    Pics look good, techy stuff (I'll be honest, major air scares me for some reason). Let me know should you guys want to go. If you can take your truck, my wife and drop us off and pick us up. I can't fit that many bikes on the E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper
    OK, for all those that don't know there is a weekly wednesday night ride. It starts from bikers parking lot on Monte Sano at approx. 5-5:30.
    Sometimes we move it over to Wade Mtn
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    It was good from the top to about 1/2 way down until it intersection of Anndale and Wagon. Pretty technical and lots of large rocks. One rock in particular got the best of me. I wouldn't suggest it unless you have the correct equipment/protection.
    For sure...get a 29'r before you try it again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    For sure...get a 29'r before you try it again!
    It wouldn't have mattered, it was too big. Just a function of a poor choice of line. There aren't a lot of choices in 29 DH bikes, not yet at least.

    I will not be beaten. I'll be back on the same trail soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    It wouldn't have mattered, it was too big. Just a function of a poor choice of line. There are a lot of choices in 29 DH bikes, not yet at least.

    I will not be beaten. I'll be back on the same trail soon enough.
    We used that route and a lot more for the 2009 festival Rock-n-Roll ride. Narritive is attached. The map is too big to attach. If you want it you can PM me your email.
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    That's a hell of a route. Too much for my legs. Climbing Toll Gate/Rocking Road would be interesting.... I've just flown down it and beat the crap out of my arms. Also I don't think I'll ever be able to climb Sinks in one shot either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    That's a hell of a route. Too much for my legs. Climbing Toll Gate/Rocking Road would be interesting.... I've just flown down it and beat the crap out of my arms. Also I don't think I'll ever be able to climb Sinks in one shot either.
    Can anyone climb sinks? They must be monsters! I make it passed Mtn Mist and to the first switchback and i'm done. I can't imagine riding the whole way up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    Can anyone climb sinks? They must be monsters! I make it passed Mtn Mist and to the first switchback and i'm done. I can't imagine riding the whole way up.

    i tried it the other day, i got halfway and i had a leg cramp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    i tried it the other day, i got halfway and i had a leg cramp...

    i'd take the leg cramp.. I feel like i'm going to throw up. I have to get used to the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    We used that route and a lot more for the 2009 festival Rock-n-Roll ride. Narritive is attached. The map is too big to attach. If you want it you can PM me your email.

    That is one crazy ride! I may have to take a day off work and try it. Thanks for the map! I like how it ends with the climb up Sinks. If I remember correctly the climb near the land trust parking lot is worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    i'd take the leg cramp.. I feel like i'm going to throw up. I have to get used to the heat.
    same here, just chew gum and drink water, you dont get nauseous, trust me, im diagnosed with nausea

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    Anyone interested in attending / helping with the festival this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    same here, just chew gum and drink water, you dont get nauseous, trust me, im diagnosed with nausea
    hmm never heard of the gum thing. I'l try that tomorrow. Since it's only going to be 92° I might as well ride!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Anyone interested in attending / helping with the festival this year?
    Depending on when/where I would gladly help/attend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    That is one crazy ride! I may have to take a day off work and try it. Thanks for the map! I like how it ends with the climb up Sinks. If I remember correctly the climb near the land trust parking lot is worse.
    The climbs are the easy part compared to the trip out railroad. That trail beats the crap out of you. The route is around 22 miles (give or take) and with a few breaks should take 4-5 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    Depending on when/where I would gladly help/attend.
    first weekend in October. I'll post more details as they develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    hmm never heard of the gum thing. I'l try that tomorrow. Since it's only going to be 92° I might as well ride!!
    well it works for some people, just drink a whole lot of water if it doesnt work, sorry if it doesnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    The climbs are the easy part compared to the trip out railroad. That trail beats the crap out of you. The route is around 22 miles (give or take) and with a few breaks should take 4-5 hours.
    I've never seen railroad but if is that bad I have to try it!! The wife says I can't get a new bike until I break something on this one that would cost more to replace than I paid for it. A wheelset would do it and I've been drooling over the Scott Scale.

    I have hiked most of Monte Sano and the land trust but don't recall the names of any trails so the map will help me.

    I'll keep an eye out for the details on the festival. October != 90° so I am there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    well it works for some people, just drink a whole lot of water if it doesnt work, sorry if it doesnt
    Anything will work better than jumping off the bike and bending over on the side of the trail feeling like you are about to puke. One of these days i'll climb all of sinks (no I won't)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    The climbs are the easy part compared to the trip out railroad. That trail beats the crap out of you. The route is around 22 miles (give or take) and with a few breaks should take 4-5 hours.
    You think Railroad is worse that Toll Gate? They both have lots-o-rocks, but the density of the rocks and length of Toll Gate is more than RR (or maybe it's just been a while since I have hiked railroad).
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    You think Railroad is worse that Toll Gate? They both have lots-o-rocks, but the density of the rocks and length of Toll Gate is more than RR (or maybe it's just been a while since I have hiked railroad).
    The spacing of the rocks on RR are just enough to make every pedal stroke a serious push to get to the next rock waiting to stop your forward momentum. It's slightly easier on the 29'r.

    To make it worse you get to climb tollgate right after finishing RR on the Rock-n-Roll route!
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    Yeah, that's what I remember about about RR... it even was bad hiking it, hence my reference to rock density on TG. Also agree a 29er would be easier, like I explain to my wife, you don't outfit a 1:1 Jeep Rock Crawler with 13" Fast and the Furious wheels. 29ers should roll over stuff easier than 26ers.
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    Huntsville is challenging to do DH in. The biggest issue is that the biggest/best descents put you out in the middle of nowhere, so you have to get back to civilization or the road if you are trying to shuttle. We have a decent crew with 4-6in travel rigs that ride up and down, granted the down part goes by much faster There are a few kids around with bigger rigs, but they are young and light so lugging the beasts around doesn't slow them down as much as one might think.

    Cold Springs to Tollgate is about the only route I can think of that is good for shuttling. But Tollgate gets old pretty quick.

    Windrock is definitely on the menu once temperatures start coming back down at the end of summer.

    And, yes, the RocknRoll is a hell of a ride. By the time we made it back up into the park last year everyone was pretty much beat down. It is a cool way to put a lot of great tech/dh into a loop though. Gotta pay to play, that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    Can anyone climb sinks? They must be monsters! I make it passed Mtn Mist and to the first switchback and i'm done. I can't imagine riding the whole way up.
    No, but I have made Rocky Road all the way from the Land trust lot to Cold Springs without dabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    Figured a trail list would be a good thing (I can add to the list if you guys post something I missed... to have one list. The below are off the top of my head):
    Monte Sano State Park
    Monte Sano - AL Land Trust
    Green Mtn - AL Land Trust
    Wade Mtn - AL Land Trust
    Wheeler Wildlife Refuge - Decatur
    Hayes Preserve - Hampton Cove
    Bankhead National Forest - Wren (Pine Torch/Brushy Creek)
    Sportsman Lake - Cullman
    Hurricane Creek - Cullman

    Is the Sportsman Lake trail worth riding?

    Also, Joe Wheeler State Park in Rogersville has a few decent trails.

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    Well guys, it was a pretty fun ride last night.

    Except that I bonked pretty hard about half way going back up warpath.

    Who's idea was that route last night, anyway?
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    Did you climb or hike a bike the last 100 feet or so of Warpath up to O'Sh Pt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Sometimes we move it over to Wade Mtn
    No, our group rides Monte Sano on wednesdays. Core group consisting of Net Wurker, AL29er, Highside, JS Paddle,and myself. I am not speaking of SORBA scheduled rides. We are not as fast paced as the SORBA group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side
    Is the Sportsman Lake trail worth riding?
    Not sure. Looks interesting from the map, I'd like to try er out: http://www.co.cullman.al.us/Press/sp...bike_open.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    Did you climb or hike a bike the last 100 feet or so of Warpath up to O'Sh Pt?
    We went up Warpath, then took Goat up to O'Sh Pt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper
    We went up Warpath, then took Goat up to O'Sh Pt.
    That makes more sense.... I was bout to have to bow down the bike Gods. That last few feet either direction is a killer. I haven't grown the sack yet myself to fly down it, especially with that sharp right hander just after that first steep rock wash/face.
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    BTW, it was determined that hiking/biking up Warpath from the Grassy Knoll is quicker than hiking/biking up the goat switchbacks, as far as getting back up to O'Shaugnessy

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    I was going to hit Wade Mountain after work... I don't think that is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper
    No, our group rides Monte Sano on wednesdays. Core group consisting of Net Wurker, AL29er, Highside, JS Paddle,and myself. I am not speaking of SORBA scheduled rides. We are not as fast paced as the SORBA group.

    I hardly call my pace fast but I like to ride with faster riders to try to improve my fitness level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    I was going to hit Wade Mountain after work... I don't think that is going to happen.


    That's perfect weather for wade. All the sweat will help wash the ticks away!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    I hardly call my pace fast but I like to ride with faster riders to try to improve my fitness level.
    Well, maybe you're not one of the people I'm speaking of. All I'm saying is we ride wednesdays on Monte Sano and we don't get in a hurry like some of the other groups. Partly due to flats and mechanical issues. This past wednesdays ride we had 3 flats and 1 broken chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper
    Well, maybe you're not one of the people I'm speaking of. All I'm saying is we ride wednesdays on Monte Sano and we don't get in a hurry like some of the other groups. Partly due to flats and mechanical issues. This past wednesdays ride we had 3 flats and 1 broken chain.
    Sounds like an oppertunity to organize a bike maintanance night (and drink some beer). I'll work on it.
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    I thought this was going to be a sticky?

    Anyone going to be on wade mountain around 5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    I thought this was going to be a sticky?

    Anyone going to be on wade mountain around 5?
    man i wouldve gone there at five but im heading to trail 209 down in double springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    man i wouldve gone there at five but im heading to trail 209 down in double springs

    never been there, any good? You aren't too far from Oak mountain at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    never been there, any good? You aren't too far from Oak mountain at that point.
    ive never been there either, i just heard that its the number 2 trail in alabama, anyways im staying with family down there, whats oak mountain like?

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    ive never been there either, i just heard that its the number 2 trail in alabama, anyways im staying with family down there, whats oak mountain like?
    To me Oak Mountain was a dream. If you've ridden Monte Sano you know that it's pretty rocky. There are rocks on Oak Mountain of course but for the most part it's pretty fast. I didn't get to see all of it though since I broke a pedal.
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    Never heard of 209? Where is it. Oak is good, but I've only done 5 miles of it. Wife and I both had incidents, so we cut it short. BTW, why I am the only that seems to be having issues over and over, or am I the one man enough to admit it.
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    I can't ride fast enough to have many issues. I almost ran over a rattle snake but I was going too slow (thankfully).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Sounds like an oppertunity to organize a bike maintanance night (and drink some beer). I'll work on it.
    I am always down to drink some beer, but the issues were more of the random vs. maintenance. I took out 2 powerlinks at once trying to push about 2 gears to high up a steep in Monte Sano. Never had that happen before, but Cam has been snapping them like that for months. Neither was more than about 4 months old, so under 500mi on them.

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    Anyone riding tomorrow morning? I'll try to make it at 7am.

    Mounted my new tires yesterday - Conti Trail Kings, 2.4 UST. Much beefier than the original Bontrager tires (split a sidewall on those a couple of weeks ago, I think Stan's sealed it, then I re-opened it last week). The real difference was going down Sinks from the parking lot. Previously, I'd be sliding on every rock. I hardly slid at all on the new tires, and was able to go down much more quickly than before.

    I also installed a GravityDropper seatpost. Did a lot better on Keith with the rolling, rocky hills.

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    Yeah, a couple of us will be there tomorrow at 0700

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    Anyone making a later run? Maybe 9 or 10? I know it's going to be hot but oh well.
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    9-10 is too late for me. We got done at about 1130 today and at least for me it was borderline intolerable in terms of temp.... others were fine with it. My wife and I were spent for the rest of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmei1
    Anyone riding tomorrow morning? I'll try to make it at 7am.

    Mounted my new tires yesterday - Conti Trail Kings, 2.4 UST. Much beefier than the original Bontrager tires (split a sidewall on those a couple of weeks ago, I think Stan's sealed it, then I re-opened it last week). The real difference was going down Sinks from the parking lot. Previously, I'd be sliding on every rock. I hardly slid at all on the new tires, and was able to go down much more quickly than before.

    I also installed a GravityDropper seatpost. Did a lot better on Keith with the rolling, rocky hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    Anyone making a later run? Maybe 9 or 10? I know it's going to be hot but oh well.
    I'm planning on starting about 10:30, pretty short ride, maybe hour and a half or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzthepug
    I'm planning on starting about 10:30, pretty short ride, maybe hour and a half or so
    Where you the young guy with the Kona? I think we all left at 1030, or just before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    Where you the young guy with the Kona? I think we all left at 1030, or just before.
    Sorry, no. I'm the old guy on the Turner Sultan. I left from the bikers parking lot just before 10:30 and there was no one else there.

    BTW, I talked to Kent (Monte Sano Park manager) after my ride and he told me there were 2 cars broken into yesterday in the bikers lot. He said he had a good lead on who it was. Be sure not to leave anything in sight in your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    To me Oak Mountain was a dream. If you've ridden Monte Sano you know that it's pretty rocky. There are rocks on Oak Mountain of course but for the most part it's pretty fast. I didn't get to see all of it though since I broke a pedal.
    alright, i never got to go to trail 209. i got down there and split my finger open down to the tendon, that ruins any fun

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    where is the group meeting tomorrow? and when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    alright, i never got to go to trail 209. i got down there and split my finger open down to the tendon, that ruins any fun

    Ouch

    I am trying to get out of work early tomorrow to make it to MS by 5. I need to get on the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by have2ride2day
    Did you get your Trail Kings local or order them? The guys at Trailhead are trying to get me a UST 2.4 but they are backordered. I'm anxious to try it as a front to go with my MK rear.
    I ordered the tires from BikeBling. Ordered on Sunday, arrived on Friday. If you do a google search for "BikeBling discount code" you'll probably find a 10% discount. I think I used "Stimulus". With shipping, they were the cheapest I could find: $100 for the pair, plus about $10 for shipping. I ordered them a week and a half ago, so they may still have some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmei1
    I ordered the tires from BikeBling. Ordered on Sunday, arrived on Friday. If you do a google search for "BikeBling discount code" you'll probably find a 10% discount. I think I used "Stimulus". With shipping, they were the cheapest I could find: $100 for the pair, plus about $10 for shipping. I ordered them a week and a half ago, so they may still have some.
    You are the man!!! Just placed my order with that coupon code. I've been looking for those tires everywhere, well I guess not everywhere . You're running them front and rear huh. Your rear triangle must be a monster. I'm just going to put a 2.4 on the front to go with a 2.4 MK on the rear. From what I've heard about the volume of these tires, I don't think that a 2.4 would fit on the rear of my Tracer. Thanks again. If you're ever in Guntersville I'll buy you a cold one.
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    i need advise on a FS bike, ive been looking around and its come between the Specialized Pitch Comp, and the Scott spark Limited

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    i need advise on a FS bike, ive been looking around and its come between the Specialized Pitch Comp, and the Scott spark Limited
    Could go either way, looks like we have dealers for both in town. Personally I would go specialized for the larger dealer network. Kind of a weird choice a $10K CF rig vs. a sub $2K AM rig Sounds to me like you have your Scott models mixed up. Have you called the local dealers to see if they have or can get your size? This year has been really sparse on inventory.
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    whoa... Scott Spark ltd? I've only seen one of those in person and I was afraid to even look at it. I am pretty sure Madison cycles is the Scott dealer around here and Trailhead keeps a pretty good selection of Specialized.
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    30% chance of rain, high 92.... might not be too bad today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by have2ride2day
    If you're ever in Guntersville I'll buy you a cold one.
    Do you live in Guntersville? I am in Arab (about to move back to Guntersville) and ride GSP quite a bit. I may have ridden with you at Monte Sano and just not known who you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by js_paddle07
    Do you live in Guntersville? I am in Arab (about to move back to Guntersville) and ride GSP quite a bit. I may have ridden with you at Monte Sano and just not known who you were.

    pm'd you.
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    I was hoping to finally make one of the rides tonight but I sacrificed that for Raccoon Mountain this Sunday. I hope it's worth it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL29er
    Could go either way, looks like we have dealers for both in town. Personally I would go specialized for the larger dealer network. Kind of a weird choice a $10K CF rig vs. a sub $2K AM rig Sounds to me like you have your Scott models mixed up. Have you called the local dealers to see if they have or can get your size? This year has been really sparse on inventory.
    What local dealers are around here that i can contact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    whoa... Scott Spark ltd? I've only seen one of those in person and I was afraid to even look at it. I am pretty sure Madison cycles is the Scott dealer around here and Trailhead keeps a pretty good selection of Specialized.
    Im hoping that you were afraid to look at it for a good reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    Im hoping that you were afraid to look at it for a good reason

    The $8,000 price tag hurt my self esteem...
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    Quote Originally Posted by reidsisk
    What local dealers are around here that i can contact?
    Trailhead, Bicycles Etc, Madison Cycles, and Bicycle Works. Google them.
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    As long as the rain holds off, I'll be riding Land Trust this afternoon at ~ 4:30 if anyone wants to ride.
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    I missed everyone yesterday, we showed up but you guys where already out. We got there just as the SORBA folks left (Reggie was riding and it did not rain!). We also left before you all got back (wife wasn't feeling it). I seem to remember Creeper's yota was there when we got there but gone before we left..... not feeling it either or your back still bothering you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdogs
    I missed everyone yesterday, we showed up but you guys where already out. We got there just as the SORBA folks left (Reggie was riding and it did not rain!). We also left before you all got back (wife wasn't feeling it). I seem to remember Creeper's yota was there when we got there but gone before we left..... not feeling it either or your back still bothering you?
    That was'nt my 4runner. I'm still nursing the back. Bulging disc suck. I may ride this weekend, just depends on how I feel. I'll tell you one thing, I'm not missing the heat sitting on my butt at home in the ac.

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    Yesterday wasn't that bad considering what it has been or will be this weekend.

    If we don't go out to town this weekend, we are thinking of going to Sportsman Lake in Culmman. Might swing by Hurricane Creek too. Anyone is welcome, again assuming we don't head out of town.... also I like to get up early.
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    I checked out the Sportsman Lake trail. It appears to be smooth XC, and short. Might be fun to bust laps on though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdreher55
    The $8,000 price tag hurt my self esteem...
    yeah, thats a scary price

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    I rode Bluffline yesterday, but I just rode to the Bluffline/Annandale intersection and rode back. What is are some good loops that start at the Land Trust parking lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by js_paddle07
    I rode Bluffline yesterday, but I just rode to the Bluffline/Annandale intersection and rode back. What is are some good loops that start at the Land Trust parking lot?
    Either upper or lower LT loops are possible. They are short though, so often you can do multiple loops.

    My favorite 45-60min upper loop is to head up Toll Gate to High Trail and then Bluff line back to the lot. But you can stretch this loop by another few miles by doing Wagon and catching the end of Railroad Bed to the bottom of Toll Gate (by the town homes).

    For a quick lower loop head out Bluff line to A-trail (Annendale?), hit Water Line down to Alms House. Once up Alms House you can hit Wagon around to Toll Gate or go a bit farther up and catch Railroad Bed heading the other way back up to Bluff Line.

    Definitely print off a map and explore around. There are a lot of fun loops in the LT.
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    That's one of my favorite loops except I usually start in the park and take cold springs down to toll gate to high trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    That's one of my favorite loops except I usually start in the park and take cold springs down to toll gate to high trail.
    What's your favorite route to get back to the top of the mountain?
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    What's your favorite route to get back to the top of the mountain?
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