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    Florida Riders Favorite Tire Combos

    I seem to have this itch lately to try some new tires on my bike. What kind of tires are the Florida riders using?

    I am currently using a set of IRC Trailbears 2.5 front and 2.25 rear. I have had good results with these tires. I also run a set of Continental Verticals in 2.3.

    I ride the typical Florida trails....Sand...Muck....Some firm sections...Roots....did I say Sand? (Fort Pierce trail, JD (pre fire), Halpatiokee, Santos, etc).

    Just curious as to what everyone else is using.

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    i was running maxxis high roller ust 2.3 in front 2.1 in the rear, until a big front puncture that stans couldn't seal. now i have conti gravity ust 2.3 on the front. works great with the psi at 30. at 35 it sucked, but 30 is the magic number with the gravity. i've run kenda kharisma 2.1 front and rear - very, very fast rolling, but too small for the front and no grip. also ran a hutchinson new python 2.1 in the rear. fast tire but broke free in sand climbing at jd. i liked the continental so much this weekend at oleta i'm thinking of running a conti in the back now.

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    I've been happy with my Tioga DH 2.3 tires. I ride all the places you mentioned and I've never noticed a serious lack of traction or speed. They grip pretty well in the limestone slick stuff (when wet) at Alafia and it feels like I'm riding a paddle tire in the sand at JD.

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    I have been interested in the Conti Gravity tires for a while (different type of tread pattern). I do like my Verticals so I could see another set of Contis in the future.

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    I just purchased a 06 Kona Stuff and took the OE Tioga Blue Dragon's off (poor reviews and not suited for trails). I do, however; like the looks of the Tioga Factoy DH in 2.5. I will have to look into those.

    It seems the tires I most commonly see in the, "Set up" threads are the Kenda Blue Groove (f) and Kenda Nevegal (r). Has anyone had expeience with these tires on our type of trails?

    I could'nt resist (scrathing that itch), I just purchased a set of Geax Sturdys off of E-bay. Eveyone seems to like them for soft trails. I figured I would give them a try (supposed to be high volume).

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    I run a Kenda Blue Groove/Nevegal combo on both my xc bike and my freeride bike - 2.1 DTC's on my xc, and 2.35 Stick-e's on my freeride. I like that they are a big tire for their size, relatively light, and offer great traction. I use these tires for rides at Carter Road, TOE, Alafia, Santos, and Razorback.

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    Well, I went to Fort Pierce today and aired down my Trailbears a little more than normal (29 f / 35 r) and had the front end wash out a couple of times (little scary).

    Could be the new bike, I am still getting used to the front forks. I think they are set a little to soft / plush with a quick rebound.

    I think next paycheck I am going to order a set of the Kenda Blue Grooves and Nevagals and give them a shot.
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    Larry at Mountain High Cyclery is a great source for Kenda tires - good prices, fast service.

    The DTC (dual tread compound) Nevegal/Blue Groove's roll a bit faster and wear significantly longer than the Stick-E compounds but at the cost of some traction though they still have tons more traction than Nokian NBX's, Panaracer Fire Pro's, and Conti Vertical Pro's (my last 3 sets of tires on my xc bike). The Stick-E's have tremendous traction but they wear very fast. I practically wore my last set out while riding for a week out at Mammoth, however, I'll order another set (this time in 2.5 vs the 2.35's I had last time) when I go out there later this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB-5O
    Well, I went to Fort Pierce today and aired down my Trailbears a little more than normal (29 f / 35 r) and had the front end wash out a couple of times (little scary).

    Could be the new bike, I am still getting used to the front forks. I think they are set a little to soft / plush with a quick rebound.

    I think next paycheck I am going to order a set of the Kenda Blue Grooves and Nevagals and give them a shot.
    How'd you like Fort Pierce, I went there on saturday and did a few laps. It felt like they did some work on that jump at the beginning "big dipper", because I was getting way more air and distance than usual. had a blast

    I like running a lower pressure at that trail though, it seems to help with the rootiness of trail. I did the same thing on my second lap at Oleta, just way too many roots and rocks for a bouncy tire.

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    I had a great time there today! Yeah, I was thinking to myself that I caught more air as well!

    The local club (Airborne MTB) is doing a great job maintaining that trail. I have'nt ridden it in about a month or so, and I could see a great improvement in just that amount of time.

    I am still trying to get my suspension dialed in. I went from my Kona Hoss Dee-Lux (hardtail - 100mm front fork spring only) to a Kona Stuff (hardtail - 130mm front fork with air preload / spring in one side and positive air in the other).

    I have the sag at about 20 - 25% and am getting just about full travel (no bottom out). The fork was originally set from the factory with the rebound real slow. I adjusted it one turn and the rebound speed is much faster. It feels a little to soft / plush, so I am going to stiffen it up a little and try again.
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    It's definately tough dialing in the suspension for the flat leg pumping sections of trail and the rooty, rocky drop/jump sections of trail that populate the florida trails.

    I usually run my fork relatively stiff, to prevent bottom out on the occasional jump/drop. I've got a Marz Z1 FR SL, which has positive and negative air adjust and it's a ***** to tune just right, the negative air is really touchy and it kills me to hear the thing top out hard.

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    I rode WTB Velociraptors for a long time. Cheap, heavy, and slow rolling... but they grip like a mofo. The rear is pretty much a paddle tire. For sand they were sweet.

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    I was looking at the Velociraptors, but, I like something a little wider than a 2.1

    I like to have something more of a high volume tire due to the fact my bike is a hardtail and I weigh 250 lbs.
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    I'm 220... I thought they made them in a 2.3 but I guess not....

    Well now I am on Weirwolf 2.3s and they have been really good so far.

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    I run Specialized Roller Pro 2.3 up front. It looks more like a 2.5, it is huge and has a lot of rolling resistance. That being said, it has never slipped out on me in sand or on off camber wet roots. I am 6'2" and weight 240+ with gear and love the tons of leverage and grip I get out of that 2.3. It floats over anything in very dry conditions. On the rear I run a Specialized Enduro 2.2 (non-pro so it has wire beads). It is slightly more xc'ish and lighter than the Roller Pro. I have had these tires on here for almost 2 years,

    Specialized has come out with some newer stuff since that is probably better and definitely lighter, but I want to get my money's worth out of what I have now.

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    Im running kenda Nevegals 2.35 sticky front and rear with my stumpjumper HT, bit heavy and slow rolling but awesome traction and volume. Great on rocks and roots,uphill and down. I ride mostly Oleta park. Mike

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    Ran my Geax Sturdy's yesterday....

    I rode Fort Pierce yesterday and was very impressed with theses tires.

    I had no problems with traction and they seemed to be more, "comfortable", than the other tires I have tried. I tried running the rear tire at 40psi and the front at 35psi. This worked out to be a good combination. I am still going to order a set of Blue Groove / Nevegals and give them a try.

    I also wanted to thank the Airborne Mountain Bike Club for the awesome job they are doing with that trail. I will be joining the club in an effort to save that trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB-5O
    I rode Fort Pierce yesterday and was very impressed with theses tires.

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    How is fort pierce looking? I haven't been there in about 2 years. It was in great shape then. I wouldn't mind going back if I knew the trail was in good shape, because it's 70 miles one way. I live down south in Boca Raton and it's a bit of a hall to get there just to turn around because the trail is in bad shape from the last few storms we've had.

    Thanks for any update you could provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSpeedWonder
    How is fort pierce looking? I haven't been there in about 2 years. It was in great shape then. I wouldn't mind going back if I knew the trail was in good shape, because it's 70 miles one way. I live down south in Boca Raton and it's a bit of a hall to get there just to turn around because the trail is in bad shape from the last few storms we've had.

    Thanks for any update you could provide.

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    Fort Pierce is awesome...the Airborne Mountain Bike Club has done a tremendous job rebuilding this trail.

    Go to their web site for some photographs and directions to the new trailhead.

    http://www.fortpiercebiketrail.info/
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    WTB Weirwolfs have been working awesome for me. Pythons are good, but cornering in J.D. sucks with them.

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    I use well worn IRC Serac's on my Sugar2 and they seem to roll fast and hook up in anything. Handled really well at Snowhill last weekend even as sandy as it is, goin to check out ft pierce this saturday since all i hear is how fun it is, I have to see for myself
    I need new tires cause they are old and dryrotten but I hate breaking them in, there is somethin to be said about worn down tires, they roll much faster in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutfiddle
    I use well worn IRC Serac's on my Sugar2 and they seem to roll fast and hook up in anything. Handled really well at Snowhill last weekend even as sandy as it is, goin to check out ft pierce this saturday since all i hear is how fun it is, I have to see for myself
    I need new tires cause they are old and dryrotten but I hate breaking them in, there is somethin to be said about worn down tires, they roll much faster in my opinion.
    fort pierce has been in great shape for a while now, with a little bit of rain it should be even better. Only a few spots of sugar sand, and a few spots of super slick mud, but overall it's a blast. A couple of laps and some time on the big dipper jump and I'm satisfied for another week.

    Also, if you're up for a long drive Markham park is back open and amazing. The trail is a bit dusty right now, but it's gonna rain tomorrow so it should be in great shape for the weekend.

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    My big fat greek tire

    For a couple months now, I have been running on Kenda Komodos. No doubt that they are excellent for climbing or when needing that extra grip is a factor. However, they are not fast rollers; they are pretty slow at coasting. Plus they are fat also.
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    Good job!

    I have kenda nevegal 2.1 in the front and back. They are great at Fort Pierce; I ride the trail a few times a week. I has not rained much since I put them on so I really don'tknow how they work in the extra muddy fort pierce mud, but so far the are freakin great

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    I have been switching between the Geax Sturdy's and my Continental Vertical's while riding lately. I had my first pinch flat with the Sturdy's a couple of weeks ago just after the "Dance" at Fort Pierce, which is odd, because I have been taking it really easy while riding due to a back / shoulder injury!

    I just ordered (two weeks ago) a new set of wheels being built by Larry at MHC. I ordered DT Swiss FR6.1D's, Spokes and Nipples laced to a set of Hadley Hubs.



    I went with the bolt on axle in the rear (front is 20mm thru) and will be ordering a set of Nevegal and Blue Grooves in the DTC to go with them. I cant't wait to get them....hopefully I will be ready!
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    QUOTE

    I am currently using a set of IRC Trailbears 2.5 front and 2.25 rear. I have had good results with these tires. I also run a set of Continental Verticals in 2.3. END QUOTE



    Are the 2.5 IRC trailbear tire a true 2.5 width? also is it a higher volume style of tire? These tires are priced very low and seem to be a great tire; might be my next choice. Thx

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    They have to be really close to a true 2.5 and 2.25....I don't have them mounted right now, but I know they were big (large volume). Here is a picture of the bike with the Trailbears on them.

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    finally gonna chime in on this one...

    I only run Fire XC's, 127's. I know they used to be kinda trendy, but I believe the wind blows a different way now. I've tried others, but I always come back to my trusted Panaracers. I do have issues on wet rocks and roots, but to me they are are still worth it for how they act everywhere else. I even run the tubeless version on my race wheels, but come this fall, I may try some Bonty Revolts for the hard pack courses.
    Worked at Trek/Fisher dealer 2008-2013. Only a little biased.

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    ft pierce

    rode couple laps saturday morning at ft pierce and must say what a fun trail. the conditions were perfect and I just wanted to thank the Airborne club for a great job maintaining the trail and building all the cool bridges. I'll definitely be back.

    Was at markham few weeks back for a langerado music festival but the trails were closed so rode Oleta instead. Fun trail but I want to check out markham sometime. FLFish are you close to Markham? Would appreciate a tour w/ someone who knows a good route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutfiddle
    rode couple laps saturday morning at ft pierce and must say what a fun trail. the conditions were perfect and I just wanted to thank the Airborne club for a great job maintaining the trail and building all the cool bridges. I'll definitely be back.

    Was at markham few weeks back for a langerado music festival but the trails were closed so rode Oleta instead. Fun trail but I want to check out markham sometime. FLFish are you close to Markham? Would appreciate a tour w/ someone who knows a good route.
    Markham is a blast, I drove down and rode there yesterday afternoon. I'm in palm beach gardens so I'm not "close" but it's a pretty quick ride on the turnpike down there, only about 70 miles. If you wanna ride I could show you around, the trails are pretty well marked but there are a lot of bypasses and stuff that can lead to missing some of the good stuff. Send me a pm when you're thinkin about heading down here.

    The riding/terrain that Markham offers is definately worth the drive in my opinion, great climbs, steep downhills, bridges, some skinnies, and plenty of really fun jumps and drops scattered throughout the trails. It's nice to mix things up a bit after riding Ft. Pierce for a few weeks. I think pound for pound is one of the most technical trails in FL, and definately the best in south FL.

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    ... and if we just ...

    I live in Miami and ride Oleta alot but havent yet tried Markham; If any of you guys wanna ride there in the near future this would be cool as I have heard great things about Markham. Thanks, Mike

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    Im going over to tampa to ride alafia and carter next weekend but maybe the weekend after I would like to make a trip down to Markham. My email is jjacobson3@cfl.rr.com and I'll PM you closer to next weekend to make plans if ur available FLFish and Iceman. Would be cool to meet yall out there and ride some of FL's finest before it gets hot!

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    Cool, Alafia is a blast and should be in great shape. I just got back from ft. pierce and noticed a lot of sand at teh beginning of the trail. The water levels are sooooo low right now out there, it's the dryest I've ever seen it. good fun though

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    Tires for Ft. Pierce

    MTB-50, we must know each other or at least have mutual friends. I'm a member of the Airborne club. I use a 2.3 Blue Groove up front and a 2.3 Nevegal for the rear. Both are stickee. It's the best combo I've used for Ft. Pierce or Alafia. Any chance you're going to Santos this weekend for the big picnic and guided rides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob
    MTB-50, we must know each other or at least have mutual friends. I'm a member of the Airborne club. I use a 2.3 Blue Groove up front and a 2.3 Nevegal for the rear. Both are stickee. It's the best combo I've used for Ft. Pierce or Alafia. Any chance you're going to Santos this weekend for the big picnic and guided rides?
    I think we have met before......

    I ordered a set of the Blue Grooves and Nevegals in 2.35....front in the stick-e and the DTC on the rear....they should be here today UPS! I am also still waiting (patiently) for my new wheelset.

    I wanted to go to Santos this weekend, however; I have to work and can't get the days off I will have to keep trying to get someone to cover at work for me.

    I will be at Fort Pierce tommorow morning, hopefully on the new tires at least.
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    If you are like me, you remember bikes better than names. I ride a white Heckler. Any chance you work for St. Lucie S.O.? If so, we talked on the forums a while back. If not, we might have talked at the trail head. Anyhow, I'm headed up to Santos on Friday with Bill Klausmeyer and Paul Johnson. It should be a fun time. Enjoy the new tires. I don't think you will be disapointed as I love mine. Do a little rain dance while you're riding. We need it and it will make the trail faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob
    If you are like me, you remember bikes better than names. I ride a white Heckler. Any chance you work for St. Lucie S.O.? If so, we talked on the forums a while back. If not, we might have talked at the trail head. Anyhow, I'm headed up to Santos on Friday with Bill Klausmeyer and Paul Johnson. It should be a fun time. Enjoy the new tires. I don't think you will be disapointed as I love mine. Do a little rain dance while you're riding. We need it and it will make the trail faster.
    Yes, I work for the S.O. and you for the FPPD?

    The tires came in UPS , I put them on last night and went for a short ride in the woods behind my home and they felt great. I will be riding them on the trail today and will let you know how they are.

    I am trying to get the days off for this weekend, hopefully I can. Have fun at Santos and stay safe....
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    Yep, that's me. Just call Ken and tell him you're not coming to work. I'm sure he won't mind. If you run into Vinny B., tell him I said I'm looking to pick up some details/OT and promise not to give them away. He'll laugh.

    If you make it up to Santos we're staying at the trailhead campground. Look for a big white Suburban and a Honda Element parked together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob
    Yep, that's me. Just call Ken and tell him you're not coming to work. I'm sure he won't mind. If you run into Vinny B., tell him I said I'm looking to pick up some details/OT and promise not to give them away. He'll laugh.

    If you make it up to Santos we're staying at the trailhead campground. Look for a big white Suburban and a Honda Element parked together.

    Yeah, I am sure he would love that I will tell Vinny on Friday.......He is doing third phase of his FTO with me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB-5O
    Yeah, I am sure he would love that I will tell Vinny on Friday.......He is doing third phase of his FTO with me .

    Third phase already!? He has like two seconds on the job. I think he needs some remedial training. Give him a bunch of 2's and 3's on his D.O.R.s and send him back to phase two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob
    Third phase already!? He has like two seconds on the job. I think he needs some remedial training. Give him a bunch of 2's and 3's on his D.O.R.s and send him back to phase two.
    That is too funny I will have to threaten him with that!

    I just got home from Fort Pierce and all I can say is I love the Kenda's. I don't know if it was just me, but they made the ride seem more plush.

    This is the first I have been at the trail lately and there is a LOT of sand building up. I hope we get some real good rain soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d-unit
    i was running maxxis high roller ust 2.3 in front 2.1 in the rear, until a big front puncture that stans couldn't seal. now i have conti gravity ust 2.3 on the front. works great with the psi at 30. at 35 it sucked, but 30 is the magic number with the gravity. i've run kenda kharisma 2.1 front and rear - very, very fast rolling, but too small for the front and no grip. also ran a hutchinson new python 2.1 in the rear. fast tire but broke free in sand climbing at jd. i liked the continental so much this weekend at oleta i'm thinking of running a conti in the back now.
    just to edit myself. rear high roller ust 2.1 wore out so i replaced it with a continental vertical protection ust 2.3 today, and i have one ride in at markham. ran it at 30 psi, and it has fantastic grip, but no matter what the listed weight is, it feels heavy. i'm gonna keep it and hope i get stronger. maybe riding at one in the afternoon is what made it feel heavy, it was H O T!!!

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    Paddle wheel in back and directional arrows up front

    Or that''s the pattern that's been working for me. The V'raptors are a big chunky version and the Mythox XC a bit less gnarly, but pretty similar. Both do fine for me and will churn through sand nicely. Completely unlike those, I had good service from Conti vertical pro's. The volume and round profile made up for it I guess.

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