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    1x10 for South Fl trails?

    I'm thinking of going 1x10 for my current build. Riding mainly Markham, maybe some Virginia Key/ Oleta/ Earhart and even the occasional trip up north.

    Anyone currently running 1x10/9 that could chime in with their experience?
    Thanks in advance.

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    I'm in Orlando. I ride 1x9. Ive ridden Tsali and Santos and all our semi local trails 1x9 with no problems

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    1x9 for the past 6 years. I have ridden most of what Florida has to offer and several places along the eastern US without much issue.

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    Thanks for the input y'all. What chain ring and cassette are you running that your happy with?

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    Im running sram 10 speed cassette and a E-13 32T guide chain with a mrp x1 chain guide. I ride a lot of central Florida trails and have taken trips to North Carolina and Michigan. I love the set up but the climbs in North Carolina where tough with out the little chain ring. For Florida the 1x10 is perfect.
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    Running a 1 X 10 in Markham is all you really need. Plenty of single speed bikes ride in there too.
    I have a 3 X 10 myself, but usually only us the middle ring and don't shift a whole lot with the rear, using maybe 3-4 gears out of the 11-36 cassette I have.
    Best thing to do is to ride your current bike and see which gears you actually use the most and go from there. Plenty of factors make gear choice such a personal thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorB View Post
    Im running sram 10 speed cassette and a E-13 32T guide chain with a mrp x1 chain guide. I ride a lot of central Florida trails and have taken trips to North Carolina and Michigan. I love the set up but the climbs in North Carolina where tough with out the little chain ring. For Florida the 1x10 is perfect.
    Exactly what I'm thinking.. Thanks GatorB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Running a 1 X 10 in Markham is all you really need. Plenty of single speed bikes ride in there too.
    I have a 3 X 10 myself, but usually only us the middle ring and don't shift a whole lot with the rear, using maybe 3-4 gears out of the 11-36 cassette I have.
    Best thing to do is to ride your current bike and see which gears you actually use the most and go from there. Plenty of factors make gear choice such a personal thing.
    Thanks OscarW. How's fishing lately? I actually run 3x9 on my current bike and I can't remember the last time I used anything outside the middle ring. I've found I really only use a few gears regularly, but I just moved and will be using markham much more often and I just want to be sure that 1x is a good call for my new build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Thanks OscarW. How's fishing lately? I actually run 3x9 on my current bike and I can't remember the last time I used anything outside the middle ring. I've found I really only use a few gears regularly, but I just moved and will be using markham much more often and I just want to be sure that 1x is a good call for my new build.
    Your welcome! Fishing is picking up and I will be gone most of next week!! Finally some sponsors...clients..

    I think you will be fine with your 1 by 10 choice. Like I said before it is very personal and I would ride Markham and do all the biggest climbs on your old set-up, noting which combo you're doing well with. What bike are you building??
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    able to tackle all those trails you talked about with a singlespeed. 1x10 shouldn't be a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedfe View Post
    able to tackle all those trails you talked about with a singlespeed. 1x10 shouldn't be a problem
    Hardcore dude!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedfe View Post
    able to tackle all those trails you talked about with a singlespeed. 1x10 shouldn't be a problem
    I hope to have the ability to run a SS one day, but that day ain't today and tomorrow ain't looking so hot either lol. My mind loves the idea and simplicity of a rigid SS (plus they are mad sexy), but I know my body would probably highly disagree. Between my jaw and knee problems I'm not sure that even if my abilities were up to the task that the rest of me could keep up.

    What do you ride Reedfe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Your welcome! Fishing is picking up and I will be gone most of next week!! Finally some sponsors...clients..

    I think you will be fine with your 1 by 10 choice. Like I said before it is very personal and I would ride Markham and do all the biggest climbs on your old set-up, noting which combo you're doing well with. What bike are you building??
    Very happy for you. Hope my dad starts seeing a construction turn around down there before its to late.

    Gonna be building a 650b TRc here pretty soon. Going to be a huge learning experience which honestly I already know so much more than I did before so I'm pretty stoked. You still rocking that Blt?

    Edit- Going to pay more mind to gearing that's working well. Thanks again for
    the solid advice.

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    Thank you! I hope your dad will get more work soon too.

    Still love the Blur and I am looking into a 650b conversion when there are more tire/wheel combo's. 2013 will be a big year for that size I think, as several more manufacturers are making 650b bikes...
    Sounds like you're working on a sweet set-up !!
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    Yeah I'm really doing a lot of homework on all the bits and pieces. I think the best way to learn is by doing.

    I was back and forth about whether to go Bltc or TRc. I think the extra travel would have come in handy, but everyone I asked for advice stated the TRc was a better choice for our area. I guess time will tell, but just out of curiosity do you use all your travel around here?

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    As far as the 650b wheels and tires there are some pretty awesome rim choices out even now (have you seen those ENVE's? WOW on the rim and its price tag ). Little harder on the tires, but I think that's going to be changing fairly shortly as well. I'm thinking neo motos for now, but we will see. I am just to short for the 29ers. The Santa Cruz frames are all supposed to make great conversions so hop on the bandwagon with me OscarW! :thumbs up:

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    I ride a 1x9 on all South Florida trails. I've used the same setup in other areas of Florida as well.

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    I run 1x10 on both of my bikes. 32 on the all-mountain bike and 36 on the XC bike. Never had a need for anything lower here in Florida.

    When I go to NC i put the 26-39 back on the front for the climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    I hope to have the ability to run a SS one day, but that day ain't today and tomorrow ain't looking so hot either lol. My mind loves the idea and simplicity of a rigid SS (plus they are mad sexy), but I know my body would probably highly disagree. Between my jaw and knee problems I'm not sure that even if my abilities were up to the task that the rest of me could keep up.

    What do you ride Reedfe?
    I'm on a Specialized Hardrock 29er that I converted to SS. I'm currently on a 32x20 ratio and once I build up a little more skill/strength I'm going to 32x18. I was riding those trails with the gears on but I realized that I didn't really need to shift to go up most of those hills. It's really rewarding to get up some of those hills when your geared friends can't get up them. I don't see myself going back to gears unless I move to somewhere very very mountainous. I actually started mountain biking this past year to train for tennis because I couldn't run long distances because of my bad knee. Biking doesn't hurt my knees, but my back is a different story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Yeah I'm really doing a lot of homework on all the bits and pieces. I think the best way to learn is by doing.

    I was back and forth about whether to go Bltc or TRc. I think the extra travel would have come in handy, but everyone I asked for advice stated the TRc was a better choice for our area. I guess time will tell, but just out of curiosity do you use all your travel around here?
    Either bike will work well IMHO. Since I am 6'2" 210# I like the plushness of the extra travel. I had an Epic 29 for a while too, but didn't like the harsher ride. The bike was fine but not for me. My lower back demanded a softer ride. 30 years at sea on boats you know..

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    As far as the 650b wheels and tires there are some pretty awesome rim choices out even now (have you seen those ENVE's? WOW on the rim and its price tag ). Little harder on the tires, but I think that's going to be changing fairly shortly as well. I'm thinking neo motos for now, but we will see. I am just to short for the 29ers. The Santa Cruz frames are all supposed to make great conversions so hop on the bandwagon with me OscarW! :thumbs up:
    Those Enve's are really nice but the price tag keeps them out of my reach. I will eventually wear out my Mavics and then will look into the 650b rims. You're right about SC's bike as they seem to convert very well to the larger 650b. I think that this size is ideal for those who want the best of both worlds size wise.
    I did see a 12 year old riding a small frame 29r during the race yesterday, and he was FAST!!
    I'd like to see your set-up once you have built it !
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    I want to go 1x on my ride, but need advice. I always stay in the current middle ring of my stock shimano octalink 3x9. What is the best way to do this conversion, and what will I need to do it? Thanks in advance for all your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamspartacus View Post
    I want to go 1x on my ride, but need advice. I always stay in the current middle ring of my stock shimano octalink 3x9. What is the best way to do this conversion, and what will I need to do it? Thanks in advance for all your help.
    All you need to do is take off the small and large chain rings, and by a chain guard system.

    I use a N-stop for the inside and a BBG chain ring guard to take the place of the outside ring. Never had any issues and love it!

    When you take off your front derailleur don't disconnect the cable. So if you ever want to put the little ring back up for a ultra ride or something you just remove the N-stop, screw on the front Derailluer, screw on the small ring and slide on the shifter. No adjustments needed

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    KyleLions35, thanks for the advice. Seems easy enough. I need to get some of the parts, so hopefuly I can try this soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedfe View Post
    I'm on a Specialized Hardrock 29er that I converted to SS. I'm currently on a 32x20 ratio and once I build up a little more skill/strength I'm going to 32x18. I was riding those trails with the gears on but I realized that I didn't really need to shift to go up most of those hills. It's really rewarding to get up some of those hills when your geared friends can't get up them. I don't see myself going back to gears unless I move to somewhere very very mountainous. I actually started mountain biking this past year to train for tennis because I couldn't run long distances because of my bad knee. Biking doesn't hurt my knees, but my back is a different story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Either bike will work well IMHO. Since I am 6'2" 210# I like the plushness of the extra travel. I had an Epic 29 for a while too, but didn't like the harsher ride. The bike was fine but not for me. My lower back demanded a softer ride. 30 years at sea on boats you know..



    Those Enve's are really nice but the price tag keeps them out of my reach. I will eventually wear out my Mavics and then will look into the 650b rims. You're right about SC's bike as they seem to convert very well to the larger 650b. I think that this size is ideal for those who want the best of both worlds size wise.
    I did see a 12 year old riding a small frame 29r during the race yesterday, and he was FAST!!
    I'd like to see your set-up once you have built it !
    6'2" and you haven't moved to the 29er dark side? I didn't know there was any of you left! Lol. I hope I made the right call on the frame. At 5'5" I am on the other side of things wanting to make sure I'm not over biked since I'm not very tall.

    I plan on doing a build post when I get all the parts in. And no doubt those ENVE's are waaaay beyond my reach as well, but looking is free! Just brought them up to point out there's really nice rims out even if I can only afford to look at them ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Time for a fully my friend
    Once i gather some cash and outgrow my current ride, I'll seriously be considering that option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedfe View Post
    Once i gather some cash and outgrow my current ride, I'll seriously be considering that option.
    Awesome!

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    Thanks everyone for your input def going to do 1x since all of you are rocking it.

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    really considering 1x10 also, not so worried about the climbs tho, more worried about top speed actually. i run amelia in my 44, granted im hardly at the top end of my rear gears but i do go through them. most of oleta and markham i've done on the 44 too. i think a 36t would be ok though, my 32 middle ring is a little small for speed.

    What size rings do you guys run?

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    32 on my 1x9 Hardrock, 36 on my 1x10 Carve

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    I am doing some serious research now to make this happen. I have been paying attention to my style of riding and a 1x is my option. Thanks for this thread, and if there are anymore that have helped any of you out too, just send me the links. Happy Trails!

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    I am 1x9 with 36 x 11-32 on the '96 Uber V. I use an ISCG adapter to mount an e.13 LG-1 guide/guard. I ride Alafia/Boyette/Santos with this setup with no problems.

    I do sometimes miss the big-ring, but I've got another bike for that!
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    1x10 is def. the way to go here in FL. I struggled a bit with my Stumpy HT EVO 34t front in PA on the longer climbs, and when I built up my stumpyFS I went 32T. Long climbs don't exist in FL so as long as you keep your momentum well I wouldn't run anyhting less than a 32T on a FS or 34 on a rigid/HT
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    i ride 1 x 9 in miami.. so far in oleta park on 163rd in north miami

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    6'2" and you haven't moved to the 29er dark side? I didn't know there was any of you left! Lol. I hope I made the right call on the frame. At 5'5" I am on the other side of things wanting to make sure I'm not over biked since I'm not very tall.

    I plan on doing a build post when I get all the parts in. And no doubt those ENVE's are waaaay beyond my reach as well, but looking is free! Just brought them up to point out there's really nice rims out even if I can only afford to look at them ha!
    I had an Epic 29r. Didn't work out as I thought and so I kept the Blur...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ds33gt View Post
    1x10 is def. the way to go here in FL. I struggled a bit with my Stumpy HT EVO 34t front in PA on the longer climbs, and when I built up my stumpyFS I went 32T. Long climbs don't exist in FL so as long as you keep your momentum well I wouldn't run anyhting less than a 32T on a FS or 34 on a rigid/HT
    It's an FS and yeah I was thinking either 32 or 34 in the front and 11-36 out back.. Haven't made a purchase yet tho.
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    Is it really necessary to run a bash around here? Seems like it would be simpler to go with a clutch derailleur, and unramped ring and chain guide and just forgo the bash. But then I don't want to regret that decision later..

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    Running a bash is a matter of personal choice, also depending on what trails you ride. If you ride a lot of large rock gardens and rough log piles, a bash guard can save you from breaking your chain. I suspect on most trails around here you'd be fine without one. I've recently switched to a no bash setup myself.

    If you stick with a bash guard, then as someone mentioned earlier the N-Gear Jump Stop is a super-cheap chain guide. Works like a charm. Once I got mine adjusted I never had my chain pop off again.

    I ran a 1x9 setup for a few years on all the trails around here. 32 tooth chain ring and 12-26 cassette. I liked the range on that cassette more, and it saves weight. I haven't met a climb yet I couldn't power up in 32/26, although seems most people prefer a lower gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Is it really necessary to run a bash around here? Seems like it would be simpler to go with a clutch derailleur, and unramped ring and chain guide and just forgo the bash. But then I don't want to regret that decision later..
    There are only two trails ive ridden in South Florida which have obstacles that my "big ring" would hit... . Those are at Pinehurst (the double log pile) and West Delray (the big log). I run a "34 tooth" BBG bash in place of my big ring right now, but will be going 1x10 soon and simply skipping those obstacles to prevent damage when riding those trails (which I hardly ride anyway).

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    FLMike, you may find you can ride those obstacles now without catching the ring. All the log piles at Pinehurst are shrinking noticeably. I'm not sure if or when they'll be built back up. The fallen tree at West Delray was sissified earlier in the year. Someone added some rocks to the backside of it to make it roll easier. In fact that entire section after that tree was smoothed out a bit. There used to be a lot of funky root obstacles, but I hardly ever have to dab in that section anymore.

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    I went 1x10 and I will never go back. I'm running a 35t MRP front ring and an 11-36 cassette. The way I determined 35t would be enough for me was that my factory middle ring was 33t and i would run out of gear at amelia, so I guesstimated a couple teeth up front would do the trick. The way I did the conversion was by removing the little and big rings and installing a MRP 1X chain guide. I have had some issues with the chainguide still dropping the chain and the plastic breaking. The first time it was replaced by MRP, but I think I am going to order the E*13.

    4Butter, if you are running an 11-46 in the back, I would definitely go bigger on the front, at least a 36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJIV View Post
    I went 1x10 and I will never go back. I'm running a 35t MRP front ring and an 11-36 cassette. The way I determined 35t would be enough for me was that my factory middle ring was 33t and i would run out of gear at amelia, so I guesstimated a couple teeth up front would do the trick. The way I did the conversion was by removing the little and big rings and installing a MRP 1X chain guide. I have had some issues with the chainguide still dropping the chain and the plastic breaking. The first time it was replaced by MRP, but I think I am going to order the E*13.

    4Butter, if you are running an 11-46 in the back, I would definitely go bigger on the front, at least a 36.
    JJIV that was a typo it was supposed to say 11-36. I haven't made a final decision of the setup I want to so with ratios or equipment.

    I have read that both mrp and e*13 have cracking issues and state u should only use certain chain cleaners/ lubes. That to me just seems like a pain for something that's supposed to be simpler. And I don't want to be dropping the chain ever if its avoidable. Again that a pain. The point is to be simpler..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJIV View Post
    I went 1x10 and I will never go back. I'm running a 35t MRP front ring and an 11-36 cassette. The way I determined 35t would be enough for me was that my factory middle ring was 33t and i would run out of gear at amelia,
    Have you ridden the 35t at markham at all? You find u stay in the middle rings most of the time? Thanks for the input.

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    29er with a 32 ring and 12-36 cassette 1x9 very happy with it wish i got a more compact cassette actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew69 View Post
    29er with a 32 ring and 12-36 cassette 1x9 very happy with it wish i got a more compact cassette actually
    Thanks Drew69. Do u drop your chain on the regular? What setup are you running if not (chain guard/ bash ect.).


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Have you ridden the 35t at markham at all? You find u stay in the middle rings most of the time? Thanks for the input.
    I actually just did the FSC race at Markham and it was the first time I had ever ridden markham. I didn't do anywhere near the whole park but we did a pretty steep climb at some point after gun range (I think its called Jet Skii hill or something like that) and I had no troubles with the 35t up front and putting the rear in the 36.

    Let me also clarify, the times that I have dropped the chain on the front is because I have hit something or i have fallen. Either way it still sucks that the chain drops.

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    I ride a SC superlight 29r medium I am 5'5" and I suits me fine. The 29ers are not just for tall people
    Anyhow I also only use the middle ring and a few gears in the back so I was also thinking of maybe going for a 1x10 setup, but I am no mechanic so I would not mess with it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJIV View Post
    I actually just did the FSC race at Markham and it was the first time I had ever ridden markham. I didn't do anywhere near the whole park but we did a pretty steep climb at some point after gun range (I think its called Jet Skii hill or something like that) and I had no troubles with the 35t up front and putting the rear in the 36.

    Let me also clarify, the times that I have dropped the chain on the front is because I have hit something or i have fallen. Either way it still sucks that the chain drops.
    Good to know its not a regular occurrence though. I'm thinking probably 33t or 34t as of right now. Do you find there to be a big difference between a 32 and the 35 you are running now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Butter View Post
    Good to know its not a regular occurrence though. I'm thinking probably 33t or 34t as of right now. Do you find there to be a big difference between a 32 and the 35 you are running now?
    Yes there was a noticeable difference. With the 32 I would run out of gear at fast places like Amelia or on the road and would need to shift to the big ring. Also, I would never use the last couple gears in the back on the climbs. The 35t has really been perfect because I top out right at my limit and I can still make it up steeper climbs on the 36t back gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJIV View Post
    Yes there was a noticeable difference. With the 32 I would run out of gear at fast places like Amelia or on the road and would need to shift to the big ring. Also, I would never use the last couple gears in the back on the climbs. The 35t has really been perfect because I top out right at my limit and I can still make it up steeper climbs on the 36t back gear.
    Ok yeah I figured here bigger gears are more important than the small ones. Plus I figure I will get stronger when forced to which I like. Hope to have an SS one day, but def not in the shape for that now. Thanks for the knowledge JJIV.

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