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    Why should the peoples posts in the OC n rep not be counted, i'll tell you now the OC is the beating heart of this place, the biggest posters of this site have a community there, they dont just hang out there, they are all over the forum giving advise and help, theres no rules here that say people arnt allowed to be social and make friends, theres only so much one can talk about bikes.
    Prime example of the flip side is that in the fat bike forum and every forum, people look after their mates, it goes on all the time in state forums and bike forums, so why is the OC forum any different?
    And yes you did say the OC should be abolished, its in your post.....
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    Doesn't every forum need an off topic place like the OC? It definitely keeps the clutter down in other sections. Do you want to click on Passion to see a bunch of posts about who cooked what for dinner, or read about who's listening to what type of music? The OC is a necessary evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Suck it up princess, i stated in my original post that im no saint, if you were one of the muppets that copped for good reason, one suck it up, and what are you doing here in the OC after youve clearly stated you think it should be abolished and its stupid, ive clearly stated ive sent a few before, and for yourself, looks like it couldnt have gone to a bigger dribbler, cheers mate n happy christmas..

    That is pretty good. The question is did you get a negative in return for this? Do you have any negatives as good?

    I posted that the whole rep system is flawed and provided no real value and suggested a way to protest by negative repping the owner of the boards (francois). Instead the 5 or 6 people I gave negative reps to *****ed and moaned like a bunch of cry babies. The funniest thing was that the leader of that pack, was given a negative rep by mistake. I actually just quoted him and it looks like I hit the wrong button. But the turns out to have made my point.

    The whole rep thing (positive) is a stupid popularity contest by a bunch of 8 year old girls. The fact that someone with all those rep points would get their panties in a wad over a negative rep is just hilarious. Give a negative rep to a person with low reps and nobody cares. Give it to certain people and the tampons fly.

    So tell me, what do people think the rep system provides? Do you trust a person with more rep points more? Is anyone giving out negative reps not out of retaliation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    The whole rep thing (positive) is a stupid popularity contest by a bunch of 8 year old girls. The fact that someone with all those rep points would get their panties in a wad over a negative rep is just hilarious. Give a negative rep to a person with low reps and nobody cares. Give it to certain people and the tampons fly.
    Am I getting this right? -> you do not care about something but you still feel the urge to intervene just to get people agitated

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    For me, the rep system is a deconstructive satire of social games (particularly those developed by Zynga) whose core gameplay only involves clicking on items at certain intervals, de-emphasizing the artistic aspects of video games in favor of promoting social interaction and monetization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Am I getting this right? -> you do not care about something but you still feel the urge to intervene just to get people agitated




    Yep, he cared so little that he logged on solely to anonymously negative rep people without posting any useful content what so ever. And he cares so little that he continues to post on the matter. Hypocrite much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apocalypso View Post
    I'm not defending anyone for anything, but the Passion forum ain't what it used to be.
    Says the guy who's been a member since December 2012.

    C'mon and fess-up. Who are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpilli View Post
    Says the guy who's been a member since December 2012.

    C'mon and fess-up. Who are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by apocalypso View Post
    I guy that has spent way too much time worrying about his "reputation."

    Happy 2013!

    Please, make the best of it.


    And, how'd that work out for you?

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    I also want to state that none of those rep threads were exclusive. The main people In the thread were begging people to join the fun. It really didn't take long before we couldn't rep each other anyway. A lot of my rep came from reciprocal rep outside the OC when people would leave positive comments on other threads I started OR from people who I would positive rep for keeping a heated discussion civil.

    Rep IS a social network game - nothing more. People complained and the rule makers discriminated against a group who figured out a way to, without breaking the rules, get the most points. Period. It means nothing more than a high score on FarmVille or surviving the Cowpocalypse.

    Some people were using the game to be mean and malicious with hate speech. I think that is the root of the problems with the rep system. But it's no different than playing Call of Duty against a bunch of foul-mouthed 12 year olds.

    All I've got to say to anyone who is all butthurt about the rep system: Leeroy Jenkins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Yep, he cared so little that he logged on solely to anonymously negative rep people without posting any useful content what so ever. And he cares so little that he continues to post on the matter. Hypocrite much?
    Dude, that is bull crap. I did not log on, send a negative post and log out. I doubt anyone would do that. And your damn thing was an error. That was actually your statement that was posted and quoted, that I actually thought was funny. It actually looks like I hit the wrong button. However, it makes my point quite well. As you said in your post, when you go negative, make it good.

    I never said I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Dude, that is bull crap. I did not log on, send a negative post and log out. I doubt anyone would do that. And your damn thing was an error. That was actually your statement that was posted and quoted, that I actually thought was funny. It actually looks like I hit the wrong button. However, it makes my point quite well. As you said in your post, when you go negative, make it good.

    I never said I don't care.
    A PM stating such would have gone a long way in your case. I know it did in the times I accidentally neg repped someone.
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    I think the rep thing is funny. The first couple neg I got, I was like WTF and sent PM's. But then I realized there's little to no reason to give a **** about the rep. It's just fun to see the comments left with them.

    This is what several folks use it for though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    A PM stating such would have gone a long way in your case. I know it did in the times I accidentally neg repped someone.
    Actually, I did not know until he posted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Am I getting this right? -> you do not care about something but you still feel the urge to intervene just to get people agitated
    That is not correct. I never said I did not care.

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    I think the rep thing is funny. The first couple neg I got, I was like WTF and sent PM's. But then I realized there's little to no reason to give a **** about the rep. It's just fun to see the comments left with them.

    This is what several folks use it for though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    This is what several folks use it for though.

    I don't think anyone is disputing that. Riding bikes serves the same purpose. It's all a dong slinging contest.
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    hey, i dont sling my dong!



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    I gently sway mine from front to back or side to side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    I also want to state that none of those rep threads were exclusive. The main people In the thread were begging people to join the fun. It really didn't take long before we couldn't rep each other anyway. A lot of my rep came from reciprocal rep outside the OC when people would leave positive comments on other threads I started OR from people who I would positive rep for keeping a heated discussion civil.

    Rep IS a social network game - nothing more. People complained and the rule makers discriminated against a group who figured out a way to, without breaking the rules, get the most points. Period. It means nothing more than a high score on FarmVille or surviving the Cowpocalypse.

    Some people were using the game to be mean and malicious with hate speech. I think that is the root of the problems with the rep system. But it's no different than playing Call of Duty against a bunch of foul-mouthed 12 year olds.

    All I've got to say to anyone who is all butthurt about the rep system: Leeroy Jenkins.
    The rep system is available to all MTBR members. I'd guess over 90% of them never leave any rep (but do complain when they receive a -rep or don't receive any +rep for their contributions). Then there's a small percentage that only leave -rep when they see something they don't like. Finally, there's those that do fully use the rep system within the limits setup by the admins.

    But, nobody wants to hear this. They want to hear about how the OC'ers ruin the rep system.

    Even people who don't care about the rep system and those who want to abolish it still need someone to blame.

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    Can I take all of the blame and get the requisite neg reps?
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    Id scrap the passion forum all together, its a breeding ground for unicorn milkers, rainbow chasers and candy cotton farters.

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    MTBR your REP System
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    ^ I think you missed the point of the banter in the OC...It was because it (rep system) sucked, a lot of us got around spam repping each-other into oblivion.
    The anonymous negative reps were the core of the problem with the system. If you have something to say, either pos or neg, just man up and own up to it. Too many D-bags hid behind the anonymity and the negativism has been greatly reduced IMHO since a rep is no longer anonymous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    Bahhhh on this whole Rep thing, it's a bunch of crapppp!!! I neg rep people for having too much rep, or just for the hell of it! The only good part is actually reading the comments. You have Members with 100+ Rep who never contribute a god damn thing on the forums, except banter with their member friends. People who organize group rides, or trail care/building events, or offer up sound mechanical help, should have all the Rep.

    MTBR your REP System SUCKS old stinky saggy nuttz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    Bahhhh on this whole Rep thing, it's a bunch of crapppp!!! I neg rep people for having too much rep, or just for the hell of it! The only good part is actually reading the comments. You have Members with 100+ Rep who never contribute a god damn thing on the forums, except banter with their member friends. People who organize group rides, or trail care/building events, or offer up sound mechanical help, should have all the Rep.

    MTBR your REP System SUCKS old stinky saggy nuttz!



    I organize a group ride every Sat. and build copious amounts of trail and banter with the member friends and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that does. Why so much hate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Why so much hate?


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    ^^ Yes. What's wrong with having friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    ^^ Yes. What's wrong with having friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    I organize a group ride every Sat. and build copious amounts of trail and banter with the member friends and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that does. Why so much hate?
    He hates because he was one of those people that used to anon. neg rep people.
    I just looked mine over and and my one and only neg rep that was anon. now shows he did it.

    Pretty funny in my eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    You have Members with 100+ Rep who never contribute a god damn thing on the forums, except banter with their member friends.

    Care to compile a list of name of those who never contribute a god damn thing?

    People who organize group rides, or trail care/building events, or offer up sound mechanical help, should have all the Rep.

    Where in the rules did it say that?
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    There's plenty of users on this site for 8-10 years always giving solid advice/input, but their post count is low, they have peanuts for rep. Then there's a lot new users, member since 2011/2012 with crazy rep numbers, because they post 10,000 times a year.

    I'm not hatin.. just think the system sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    Has the whaaaambulance arrived to help you with your butthurt yet?
    i really like the way you use red colour sir...

    i think you should have all the rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    There's plenty of users on this site for 8-10 years always giving solid advice/input, but their post count is low, they have peanuts for rep. Then there's a lot new users, member since 2011/2012 with crazy rep numbers, because they post 10,000 times a year.

    I'm not hatin.. just think the system sucks.
    Youve just got butthurt because youve been here for 6 years and only got 20odd rep power so that gives you about 4 reps a year, and there are others that can seem to get themselves 100 or 200 a year, id suggest that the guys who get rep actually have a personality, give great help, are caring and socially aware type of people........
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    Pro tip: Don't hate

    Here let me help you out cry baby.....

    Go here....

    http://forums.mtbr.com/search.php?do=getnew

    Find something you can post in. Help where you can. If someone knows how the system works they will say thank you or can rep you. It's that simple. If you don't get rep for your help or you are wrong then so be it. As for posting 90000000 times a year. Currently posting 6.51 per day. It's not that hard if you actually interact with other people on the forums, besides this thread.

    Compare this to your 1.38 per day. Given those facts, I would have a higher probability of getting more rep because I contribute more to the forums. So, you could say, but, but, you post in OC a lot and you all stroke each other so hard. Well maybe so I like it ruff. Though I also venture out to the forums and do what I can to help the site, help others, maybe put a smile on someones sour puss face that has a shitty attitude.

    For the members that contribute to sub forums and just stay there, I'm 100% certain they could give two flying fvcks about rep. People know they help. It's up to other users like yourself to rep them and thank them. So that's just about that, so you can continue on going back and forth about why rep sucks but it just won't get you anywhere.
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    i gotta tell you hutch... i did miss you... and i am not ashamed to admit it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Pro tip: Don't hate

    Here let me help you out cry baby.....

    Go here....

    http://forums.mtbr.com/search.php?do=getnew

    Find something you can post in. Help where you can. If someone knows how the system works they will say thank you or can rep you. It's that simple. If you don't get rep for your help or you are wrong then so be it. As for posting 90000000 times a year. Currently posting 6.51 per day. It's not that hard if you actually interact with other people on the forums, besides this thread.

    Compare this to your 1.38 per day. Given those facts, I would have a higher probability of getting more rep because I contribute more to the forums. So, you could say, but, but, you post in OC a lot and you all stroke each other so hard. Well maybe so I like it ruff. Though I also venture out to the forums and do what I can to help the site, help others, maybe put a smile on someones sour puss face that has a shitty attitude.

    For the members that contribute to sub forums and just stay there, I'm 100% certain they could give two flying fvcks about rep. People know they help. It's up to other users like yourself to rep them and thank them. So that's just about that, so you can continue on going back and forth about why rep sucks but it just won't get you anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    i gotta tell you hutch... i did miss you... and i am not ashamed to admit it...

    hatin' sucks... your advice is kosher...
    I secretly stalked you and others on my time off. Missing anything?? Besides rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    There's plenty of users on this site for 8-10 years always giving solid advice/input, but their post count is low, they have peanuts for rep. Then there's a lot new users, member since 2011/2012 with crazy rep numbers, because they post 10,000 times a year.

    I'm not hatin.. just think the system sucks.
    Which ones? Give me a list of names so I can confirm or deny your allegations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    snowdrifter, i got your note about not all negging each other. i agree. let's do something positive, or at least not negative, with our energy. play stupid rep games around here and see if you get any +, or go contribute where your experience and expertise are strongest, and see if you get some rep there. and even if you don't, you did the right thing. be seeing you around.
    nice work Bill...

    snowdrifter - there is value in being a good person. you can learn everything else, but you can't learn to be RAD...

    you'll see - it's gotta be worth some + rep...

    now you know why OC is "different"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    I secretly stalked you and others on my time off. Missing anything?? Besides rep.

    Admin you're funny, I ain't even mad though....
    it appears that we are in the interim phase - regrouping. tone's checked into a rehab, he was really hit hard with these changes. but he will champion through it with a little help from his sister. OC Illuminati have been discussing our next move. i have a feeling it will be unforgettable. Soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Youve just got butthurt because youve been here for 6 years and only got 20odd rep power so that gives you about 4 reps a year, and there are others that can seem to get themselves 100 or 200 a year, id suggest that the guys who get rep actually have a personality, give great help, are caring and socially aware type of people........
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    Just returned from the holidays to comp / rep access. Sadly, it appears the admin has not yet provided any answers to questions for singling out the OC crew to devalue & eliminate rep in the Off Camber forum - where all were playing by the set rules.
    If I missed their reply(ies) - please let me know.

    Feel this current action has lessened trust, and that further rep debate will create more tension.
    (edit) Just returned from my 1st ride in nearly 2 weeks, and ahhhh, yes now all is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    There's plenty of users on this site for 8-10 years always giving solid advice/input, but their post count is low, they have peanuts for rep. Then there's a lot new users, member since 2011/2012 with crazy rep numbers, because they post 10,000 times a year.

    I'm not hatin.. just think the system sucks.
    The system does suck. It only benefits the helpful contributors when other people recognize the contributions and actually leave rep for those contributors.

    Are you part of the solution? Do you rep those solid users? How often?

    EDIT: Just read Hutch's response. What he said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    For the members that contribute to sub forums and just stay there, I'm 100% certain they could give two flying fvcks about rep. People know they help. It's up to other users like yourself to rep them and thank them. So that's just about that, so you can continue on going back and forth about why rep sucks but it just won't get you anywhere.

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    Snowdrifter has stated he neg reped people with a high rep count, just because they had a high rep count.
    So the answer is no Marps.
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    If you don't like the rep system, don't use it. You can even hide it via your account settings. Just like the other forums, the O/C section is for everyone. There's no rep count or secret handshake to let you in. Some forums are more close in friendships than others as well.

    Want more positive rep? Help out. Want more reputation? Help out. Want more red? Come across as a jerk. If you got outed for your negative comments after the change, man up and deal with it. You posted it, what did you expect?

    I never saw the rep system as a popularity contest. Those that have interpreted it that way seem the ones most bent out shape over the system.

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    Heres some golden neg rep i got from member VAPEZILLA tonight.
    In retaliation for me saying 'trek are making a new model called the EPO'

    ''Your just a trek fanboy, you ROCK SPIDER''

    i dont think he has realised the anon system is gone lol, so i negged him back to one green square and two rep points, if only i could have put him in the red.
    Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a funny story....

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