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    Calling moderator, hello, pick up

    Some of us are kind of wondering what is going on with the system tonight. Are you upgrading VBull? There seems to be some glitches going on. One being reputation numbers jumping up and down for every member on the forums. Please feel free to PM or post here...

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    Just finished reading that. So how did they pull this new curve with factoring out how much to take away..... Someone's butthurt. Don't worry I'll be sure to rep you asap to get that 18 to 19.

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    yup, somebody is trying to suck the fun out of this forum. I guess when you're a mod you can do whatever you want whenever you want. Yup that's real cool.
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    It's okay, they can shut down all the rep threads, take my rep back to zero, until they just get rid of rep all together I will continue to rep members for good work or just to rep them. I guess you can't just rep people. Must have Missed that in rep class 101. Even if they put a limit on the rep, we should all still aim for the sky. Have fun tracking every rep I give out mods. Not pissed about this but maybe write some rules for how to rep. You brought the rep game upon yourself. Game on Wayne! Merry Christmas to you too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Some of us are kind of wondering what is going on with the system tonight. Are you upgrading VBull? There seems to be some glitches going on. One being reputation numbers jumping up and down for every member on the forums. Please feel free to PM or post here...
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    Okay Shiggy. Have a Happy wonderful Holidays.

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    That does not give much of an explanation.

    As there is a relatively limited number of people actually contributing (like 1000 or so I guess), I wonder how this is set up now?
    It's gonna be hard to not have the same people repping each other, with that few people making notable contributions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    That does not give much of an explanation.

    As there is a relatively limited number of people actually contributing (like 1000 or so I guess), I wonder how this is set up now?
    It's gonna be hard to not have the same people repping each other, with that few people making notable contributions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    That does not give much of an explanation.

    As there is a relatively limited number of people actually contributing (like 1000 or so I guess), I wonder how this is set up now?
    It's gonna be hard to not have the same people repping each other, with that few people making notable contributions.


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    I can guarentee it will be thought out as well as the first system was thought out, and that means there wont be any thought go into the latest changes either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Cheers.

    I wonder why that was so hard to put in the announcement?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    I can guarentee it will be thought out as well as the first system was thought out, and that means there wont be one iota of intelligent thought go into the latest changes either...
    Now tell us how you really feel

    From what my limited brain capacity can make out of this, all this means is that in 1 year everything is going to be the same, as it took about a year for a 10X.

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    I'm sensing a little negativity towards mods.Must they babysit 24/7 ? Would someone who comes here for free complain about the people that keep this place respectable and enjoyable for no other reason than just that. I'd hope it's a joke, maybe a little too serious and I'm not trying to kiss @ss, just think that needs to be said.
    Whateva, change is good, just a #, besides, if your reputation "is beyond repute" does anything else really matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    I'm sensing a little negativity towards mods. 24/7 baby sitting ? Would someone who comes here for free complain about the people that keep this place respectable and enjoyable for no other reason than just that. I'd hope it's a joke, maybe a little too serious and I'm not trying to kiss @ss, just think that needs to be said.
    Whateva, change is good, just a #, besides, if your reputation "is beyond repute" does anything else really matter?
    This has nothing to do with the mods, they just follow the rules given to them by the admin, and put in their time and effort here, this has nothing to do with them, they dont make the rules they give their time to uphold them and kudos to them.
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    This. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    I'm sensing a little negativity towards mods. How could anyone who comes here for free complain about the people that keep this place respectable and enjoyable for no other reason than just that. I'd hope it's a joke, maybe a little too serious and I'm not trying to kiss @ss, just think that needs to be said.
    Whateva, change is good, just a #, besides, if your reputation "is beyond repute" does anything else really matter?
    A bit of info would have gone a long way, to avoid the negative reactions.

    Having said that, it would maybe also help that things were well considered, prior to implementation.
    Spooling back the rep system once a year, does not seem to change anything.

    Personally I have no negative feelings towards the people running this site, but I can sure understand why they get a lot of negative reactions, as this has not been handled all that well.
    I think everybody knows, that quite a few members pays great interest in their rep points.
    Just the heated debates the rep system has caused, ought to make that obvious.
    Knowing that, I'd explain things in detail when making changes.
    It would take 10 minutes to post an explanation, instead of just posting an announcement that offered no info, besides that something had been changed, not even explaining what the change consisted of.

    Running a place like this, is a lot like any other management position out there.
    If the communication is inadequate, you create rumors and negative responses, as people feel run over.

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    Cool, cause for the most part they're tolerant of the ruckus
    Nuff said

    But I just wanna say that all of you guys that have posted thus far, all, have a reputation beyond repute, really, it's true.
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    I'll, tell you the problem, im no ***** so here it is.

    First of all the powers that be make a confidential system where they allow people to neg rep anonymously, they made n set that rule, it was set in trust..
    Then they break that trust and confidentiality and turn the system that they set upside down and show retrospectively who repped who, i have no probs with this apart from the fact that it was a very very unprofessional, unethical thing to do that showed not one iota of respect for the members of this site that thought they could count on the powers to be to keep there negs confidential.

    Then they decide to without any explination reset the rep, im sure it was done with as much intelligence and thought as the first system was done, meaning not one iota of thought.

    This place treats confidentiality and respect for members as nothing more than a childs game..

    The actions in the last few days from admin have been very unprofessional, thoughtless, and unethical, and smacks of having very little respect at all for the members of this site.
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    ok ok, good joke Admins. Now let's put the rep power back to normal. We all had a good laugh. I still want Tone's to achieve Double Centurion status before xmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    I'll, tell you the problem, im no ***** so here it is.

    First of all the powers that be make a confidential system where they allow people to neg rep anonymously, they made n set that rule, it was set in trust..
    Then they break that trust and confidentiality and turn the system that they set upside down and show retrospectively who repped who, i have no probs with this apart from the fact that it was a very very unprofessional, unethical thing to do that showed not one iota of respect for the members of this site that thought they could count on the powers to be to keep there negs confidential, its nothing less than a total disgrace.

    Then they decide to without any explination reset the rep, im sure it was done with as much intelligence and thought as the first system was done, meaning not one iota of thought.

    Without a doubt this is the most unprofessional site ive ever seen, it has no respect for its members and treats confidentiality and respect for members as nothing more than a childs game..

    Now lets just say there where some mentally unstable members on here, that after finding out that the person or persons that repped them and they looked up to actually didnt like them, this sent them into a spin and a destructive situation that led to them killing themselves, dont laugh, people have killed themselves for a lot less if they have serious mental health issues.
    The actions in the last few days from admin have been very unprofessional, thoughtless, and unethical, and smacks of having no respect at all for the members of this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    I'll, tell you the problem, im no ***** so here it is.

    First of all the powers that be make a confidential system where they allow people to neg rep anonymously, they made n set that rule, it was set in trust..
    Then they break that trust and confidentiality and turn the system that they set upside down and show retrospectively who repped who, i have no probs with this apart from the fact that it was a very very unprofessional, unethical thing to do that showed not one iota of respect for the members of this site that thought they could count on the powers to be to keep there negs confidential, its nothing less than a total disgrace.

    Then they decide to without any explination reset the rep, im sure it was done with as much intelligence and thought as the first system was done, meaning not one iota of thought.

    Without a doubt this is the most unprofessional site ive ever seen, it has no respect for its members and treats confidentiality and respect for members as nothing more than a childs game..

    Now lets just say there where some mentally unstable members on here, that after finding out that the person or persons that repped them and they looked up to actually didnt like them, this sent them into a spin and a destructive situation that led to them killing themselves, dont laugh, people have killed themselves for a lot less if they have serious mental health issues.
    The actions in the last few days from admin have been very unprofessional, thoughtless, and unethical, and smacks of having no respect at all for the members of this site.
    Calm down, this is a bike forum, not your profile at the IRS.

    As I wrote above, I agree things have not been handled all that well, but we all have to learn, that goes for the people who runs this site as well.

    What has happened, is past, so now all that makes a difference, is what should be done from now on. Whining about the admin making a stoopid, is not bringing anybody anything positive.

    I'm quite sure that the admin has learned a thing or two in the process, so please just leave it at that.
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    The Rep system is the stupidest thing on this forum, having jokes with it made visiting the OC fun. SO in anarchy I will neg Rep every Mod everytime they post. Shiggy was first, now I feel empowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    Calm down, this is a bike forum, not your profile at the IRS.

    As I wrote above, I agree things have not been handled all that well, but we all have to learn, that goes for the people who runs this site as well.

    What has happened, is past, so now all that makes a difference, is what should be done from now on. Whining about the admin making a stoopid, is not bringing anybody anything positive.

    I'm quite sure that the admin has learned a thing or two in the process, so please just leave it at that.
    How hard it may be to believe, most people are not doing things to be cruel, but simply make mistakes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    With all due respect, we will agree to disagree....
    So what do you suggest the admin should do?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    So what do you suggest the admin should do?


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    first of all, anybody with a tiny piece of respect for other people, wouldnt have made a rule that was set in confidentiaily like neg repping, and turned it around retrospectively, thats a break in trust, it didnt affect me, but its one hell of an un ethical thing to do, it boarders on reckless and shows not one iota of respect for the members of this site.
    Im a pretty fair person, i dont need experience running a website to understand that, thats called ethics, it was an unbelievably unprofessional thing to do, no mistake or making a boo boo, it was very poor form as has been expressed in other threads on this site.

    Secondly, why put a stupid system in place, that we could all see was easy to exploit from the moment we saw it, thats not making a mistake, thats called very poor planning with very little thought process put into it in the first place.

    Thirdly, the communication levels are very poor on here, prime example tonight, changing the rep system without one iota of explination that would have taken 5 minutes.

    these things arnt mistakes, its treating members like idiots and showing very little respect, but forget the last two points the first one is undesputable

    none of these come down to making a mistake, they come down to a lack of thought and lack of respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    first of all, anybody with a tiny piece of respect for other people, wouldnt have made a rule that was set in confidentiaily like neg repping, and turned it around retrospectively, thats a break in trust, it didnt affect me, but its one hell of an un ethical thing to do, it boarders on reckless and shows not one iota of respect for the members of this site.
    Im a pretty fair person, i dont need experience running a website to understand that, thats called ethics, it was an unbelievably unprofessional thing to do, no mistake or making a boo boo, it was very poor form as has been expressed in other threads on this site.

    Secondly, why put a stupid system in place, that we could all see was easy to exploit from the moment we saw it, thats not making a mistake, thats called very poor planning with very little thought process put into it in the first place.

    Thirdly, the communication levels are very poor on here, prime example tonight, changing the rep system without one iota of explination that would have taken 5 minutes.

    these things arnt mistakes, its treating members like idiots and showing very little respect, but forget the last two points the first one is undesputable

    none of these come down to making a mistake, they come down to a lack of thought and lack of respect.
    I'm quite sure the admins didn't think of those issues as being that big a deal to some.
    Thus I'm sure they are pretty surprised the response is that negative.

    So yes, they made a mistake, even a couple of mistakes.

    What is much more interesting is how you'd suggest they rectify those mistakes?

    Cause pointing out errors is pretty easy, it's the solutions I think the admins are all ears about. They sure can see this was not too smart, in particular now that it's been pointed out to them quite a few times the last few hours.

    So what sort of action from the admins would satisfy you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    first of all, anybody with a tiny piece of respect for other people, wouldnt have made a rule that was set in confidentiaily like neg repping, and turned it around retrospectively, thats a break in trust, it didnt affect me, but its one hell of an un ethical thing to do, it boarders on reckless and shows not one iota of respect for the members of this site.
    Im a pretty fair person, i dont need experience running a website to understand that, thats called ethics, it was an unbelievably unprofessional thing to do, no mistake or making a boo boo, it was very poor form as has been expressed in other threads on this site.

    Secondly, why put a stupid system in place, that we could all see was easy to exploit from the moment we saw it, thats not making a mistake, thats called very poor planning with very little thought process put into it in the first place.

    Thirdly, the communication levels are very poor on here, prime example tonight, changing the rep system without one iota of explination that would have taken 5 minutes.

    these things arnt mistakes, its treating members like idiots and showing very little respect, but forget the last two points the first one is undesputable

    none of these come down to making a mistake, they come down to a lack of thought and lack of respect.
    I gotta say I agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    I'm quite sure the admins didn't think of those issues as being that big a deal to some.
    Thus I'm sure they are pretty surprised the response is that negative.

    So yes, they made a mistake, even a couple of mistakes.

    What is much more interesting is how you'd suggest they rectify those mistakes?

    Cause pointing out errors is pretty easy, it's the solutions I think the admins are all ears about. They sure can see this was not too smart, in particular now that it's been pointed out to them quite a few times the last few hours.

    So what sort of action from the admins would satisfy you?

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    Well through a total lack of though not a mistake ,the horse has bolted now hasnt it?

    Heres a few things admin could think about.

    TRANSPARENCY in the rules and regulations
    TRANSPARENCY in how they have gotton to certain conclusions, prime example in not having the respect tonight to explain exactly how they worked the new system
    RESPECT, respect the rules they make and stick to them, if they dont think them out properly then they wear it not us, and respect the members enough to inform them about the ins and outs of changes, which leads to my next point.
    COMMUNICATION, better communication all round, instead of a lack of communication.
    PROFESSIONALISM AND ETHICS, dont have something confidential one second then change it like a childs game the next.
    PUTTING MORE INTELLIGENT THOUGHT INTO CHANGES AND SYSTEMS, i wonder how much thought has gone into todays changes, if the past is anything to go by, id say not alot of thought at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Just finished reading that. So how did they pull this new curve with factoring out how much to take away..... Someone's butthurt. Don't worry I'll be sure to rep you asap to get that 18 to 19.
    same here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Well through a total lack of though not a mistake ,the horse has bolted now hasnt it?

    Heres a few things admin could think about.

    TRANSPARENCY in the rules and regulations
    TRANSPARENCY in how they have gotton to certain conclusions, prime example in not having the respect tonight to explain exactly how they worked the new system
    RESPECT, respect the rules they make and stick to them, if they dont think them out properly then they wear it not us, and respect the members enough to inform them about the ins and outs of changes, which leads to my next point.
    COMMUNICATION, better communication all round, instead of an aloof lack of communication.
    PROFESSIONALISM AND ETHICS, dont have something confidential one second then change it like a childs game the next.
    PUTTING MORE INTELLIGENT THOUGHT INTO CHANGES AND SYSTEMS, i wonder how much thought has gone into todays changes, if the past is anything to go by, id say not alot of thought at all

    Tone's you're better than that, really.

    As pointed out before, I think we can all agree that things have not been handled all that well.

    Fact remains though, that what's been done is done.

    How do you feel the admins should correct those errors?
    It seems to me that you also don't know, and in that case going apeshit on the admins is not going to help anybody.

    Again, if you have suggestions to rectify the situation, I'm quite sure the admins are all ears.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    Tone's you're better than that, really.

    As pointed out before, I think we can all agree that things have not been handled all that well.

    Fact remains though, that what's been done is done.

    How do you feel the admins should correct those errors?
    It seems to me that you also don't know, and in that case going apeshit on the admins is not going to help anybody.

    Again, if you have suggestions to rectify the situation, I'm quite sure the admins are all ears.


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    Magura, they cant recify the situation, and i resent you telling me im better than that when im airing my unhappyness on a public forum.
    Im very entitled to do that if i please, im not you, im me, i deal with things in my own way and im not affraid to call people out when i feel like it.
    you asked me what the admin could do to help correct their ways and i answered it, i dont see anything wrong with my post above, cheers mate

    If admin need to hear opinion well they have got it.

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    From the begining the rep system has been controversial.
    To change it without informing users of how it now works
    has prompted much emotion.

    If admin would post a full explanation of how, what where, when, and why it would go far to
    reduce the backlash that is soon to erupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Magura, they cant recify the situation, and i resent you telling me im better than that when im airing my unhappyness on a public forum.
    Im very entitled to do that if i please, im not you, im me, i deal with things in my own way and im not affraid to call people out when i feel like it.
    you asked me what the admin could do to help correct their ways and i answered it, i dont see anything wrong with my post above, cheers mate

    If admin need to hear opinion well they have got it.

    Its not all rainbows n candy cotton farts mate....
    You sure are entitled to air your unhappiness, no argument there. Now you've done that, and it's time to move forward, no?
    I'm not too happy about this either, don't get that wrong.

    What I'm pointing out, is that since you're unhappy with something, the smart solution is to come up with suggestions to sort out the situation.

    Look at it from the admins point of view. The more we complain, the lees they feel like sorting things.
    MTBR is not a multi million $ business, but a hobby-business. So treating each other with respect is a good beginning.
    Pointing out errors and mistakes, is good, continuous negativity towards the people who runs this, sure isn't.

    You used to be pretty laid back, see things in a bigger perspective, and able to move forward.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin_W View Post
    From the begining the rep system has been controversial.
    To change it without informing users of how it now works
    has prompted much emotion.

    If admin would post a full explanation of how, what where, when, and why it would go far to
    reduce the backlash that is soon to erupt.
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    PS Did I whack my melon last night, go into a coma and today is really April 1st?
    Exactly!

    Well, counting out that around where I am, the calendar says December 23rd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    You sure are entitled to air your unhappiness, no argument there. Now you've done that, and it's time to move forward, no?
    I'm not too happy about this either, don't get that wrong.

    What I'm pointing out, is that since you're unhappy with something, the smart solution is to come up with suggestions to sort out the situation.

    Look at it from the admins point of view. The more we complain, the lees they feel like sorting things.
    MTBR is not a multi million $ business, but a hobby-business. So treating each other with respect is a good beginning.
    Pointing out errors and mistakes, is good, continuous negativity towards the people who runs this, sure isn't.

    You used to be pretty laid back, see things in a bigger perspective, and able to move forward.....


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    Mate, i didnt used to be layed back, i am layed back, but everyones entitled to get irritated n pissed off, everybody has their moments and when i have mine i dont fluff them up, i get straight to the point.

    I respect the way you go about things, like in fancis's thread you just said in a nice way, 'that doesnt seen too well thought out'' refering to the new rep system than you cant rep anybody twice.
    You say it that way, where as i say before i know anything about the new system, ''if the thought they have put into it before is any indication, there wont be any thought put into the new system either'' lol and im spot on right it seems.

    In our country we dont fluff things up n sugar coat things, i pride myself in givin it straight with no bu*lshit, thats the way i work and im proud of that.

    you like to tread softly, and try and go about things in a measured way, i respect that, but thats not me, imo theres nothing wrong with saying it straight, we just have different ways of going about it, but we probably have similar ideas about things.
    Yes im irritated tonight, im not often fired up, but everybody opporates in a different mannor, there might not be one right way to go about it other than being yourself

    cheers Mags.
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    Some people really need to turn off thier computer and ride a bike more often. It's rather sad how serious some users are taking this. Seeing how this site is relatively free to post in the forums.

    If people don't like it. Go somewhere else. Why not start your own mtn biking site? If your that strong about things.

    As a Mod already said. They are simply ushers. I highly doubt they get comp'ed much, if any to help out here. They have jobs, families, lives etc.... Some of them even ride thier bikes. They can't spend 24/7 combing every post. Try to keep every single user happy.

    Oh yeah, anyone that says they are going to f'ing kill someone. Should be banned. I did'nt find that the least bit funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Troll View Post
    Some people really need to turn off thier computer and ride a bike more often. It's rather sad how serious some users are taking this. Seeing how this site is relatively free to post in the forums.

    If people don't like it. Go somewhere else. Why not start your own mtn biking site? If your that strong about things.

    As a Mod already said. They are simply ushers. I highly doubt they get comp'ed much, if any to help out here. They have jobs, families, lives etc.... Some of them even ride thier bikes. They can't spend 24/7 combing every post. Try to keep every single user happy.

    Oh yeah, anyone that says they are going to f'ing kill someone. Should be banned. I did'nt find that the least bit funny.
    Hold on, not one person has had a go at moderators, they have nothing to do with this at all, what are you refering to.

    And every site on the net is free to post on, they rely on members to get advertising, everybody has the right to say what they feel, expecially on sites they put plenty of time into.
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    My, my. I guess it's the end of the monkeys running the zoo (I consider myself one of the monkeys). Oh we'll, I liked it here before rep and I liked rep before it ramped up into the exponential growth clique. Guess I'll get used to the changes. Thing is, it did keep a lot of people tuned in here, having fun with it, seeing and clicking on the ads that pay for this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Mate, i didnt used to be layed back, i am layed back, but everyones entitled to get irritated n pissed off, everybody has their moments and when i have mine i dont fluff them up, i get straight to the point.

    I respect the way you go about things, like in fancis's thread you just said in a nice way, 'that doesnt seen too well thought out'' refering to the new rep system than you cant rep anybody twice.
    You say it that way, where as i say before i know anything about the new system, ''if the thought they have put into it before is any indication, there wont be any thought put into the new system either'' lol and im spot on right it seems.

    In our country we dont fluff things up n sugar coat things, i pride myself in givin it straight with no bu*lshit, thats the way i work and im proud of that.

    you like to tread softly, and try and go about things in a measured way, i respect that, but thats not me, imo theres nothing wrong with saying it straight, we just have different ways of going about it, but we probably have similar ideas about things.
    Yes im irritated tonight, im not often fired up, but everybody opporates in a different mannor, there might not be one right way to go about it other than being yourself

    cheers Mags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Troll View Post
    Oh yeah, anyone that says they are going to f'ing kill someone. Should be banned. I did'nt find that the least bit funny.
    Settle down over there, it was made in jest. I couldn't give one sh*t about rep, my mom says I'm cool and that's all that matters. Happy Holidays
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    lol, mate, all good, happy days, i'll be back to normal when i wake up in the morning, ive had a long day of xmas shopping, it did my head in, i must be on the edge lol

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    I just want to know the new formula
    WE WILL REBUILD
    Who will be the first to 50
    shiggy is almost there
    atleast they could have given us the time to send all the negative reppers to the bottom of the ocean


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazukea View Post
    yup, somebody is trying to suck the fun out of this forum. I guess when you're a mod you can do whatever you want whenever you want. Yup that's real cool.
    I don't know, I think they are putting the fun in the forum.

    As far as the mods getting to do whatever they want whenever they want, get over.
    That age old tired argument has been going on since vBulletin was created.
    I used to hear it 10 years ago when was an admin for a 35k member message forum.
    If you don't like it, then start your own forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    lol, mate, all good, happy days, i'll be back to normal when i wake up in the morning, ive had a long day of xmas shopping, it did my head in, i must be on the edge lol

    cheers mags
    Hahaha. Well, it's that time of year, I think everyone's a little edgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Troll View Post
    Some people really need to turn off thier computer and ride a bike more often. It's rather sad how serious some users are taking this. Seeing how this site is relatively free to post in the forums.

    If people don't like it. Go somewhere else. Why not start your own mtn biking site? If your that strong about things.

    As a Mod already said. They are simply ushers. I highly doubt they get comp'ed much, if any to help out here. They have jobs, families, lives etc.... Some of them even ride thier bikes. They can't spend 24/7 combing every post. Try to keep every single user happy.

    Oh yeah, anyone that says they are going to f'ing kill someone. Should be banned. I did'nt find that the least bit funny.
    Agree with everything except banning the killers.

    I want to know who is coming at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    Who will be the first to 50
    shiggy is almost there



    shiggy is there Crap
    Because he has what are considered the legit rep points, not those earned rep ho'ing after OC went live. The rest of us were stripped of the OC circle jerk points.
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    So basically, what I consider a worthy rep may not be in the eyes of admin. so it doesn't count.

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    I stumbled upon this forum several years ago when I was researching a new mtb purchase. I've learned about everything from bikes to the Kanga, and have had the privilege to interact with many very interesting and fun people along the way. It's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Because he has what are considered the legit rep points, not those earned rep ho'ing after OC went live. The rest of us were stripped of the OC circle jerk points.
    ive got way more than 23 from the Main site, i get them every day, prime example i only had 5 out of 20 on my sheet from OC members, the rest was from out on the forum, i get around, im in all sorts of forums here being a silly bugger, 23 points for being a fool and idiot all the time seems pretty unfair to me, ive been ripped off, its a travisty of justice.

    im from coast to coast like butter on toast.......

    I still love the place, nothing will change, but i should have been rewarded more than i have for being an idiot, clown n a fool......

    i feel as though ive just been surprised butt molested by a total stranger in the night.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    I stumbled upon this forum several years ago when I was researching a new mtb purchase. I've learned about everything from bikes to the Kanga, and have had the privilege to interact with many very interesting and fun people along the way. It's all good.
    That's what I say. The Rep side-show has been an entertaining distraction. The real value is in meeting great people both here and outside, learning tricks of the trade, and helping people when there is something to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    i feel as though ive just been surprised butt raped by a total stranger in the night.....
    I sense you are finally relaxing, going with it. It goes much easier and quicker that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post

    i feel as though ive just been surprised butt raped by a total stranger in the night.....



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    I really don't care about the rep system, especially with all this drama it's created. I probably won't be posting here as much, at least until everyone cools off. It's demotivating and aggravating. The OC forum is fun, but it takes away from everything else. Everyone is spending more time complaining and less time contributing useful info. So with that said, happy holidays guys, I'm gonna start riding more.

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    The powers above are basically saying, "Stop screwing around, you're having too much fun. We need to be a bit more serious. Next, we are going to shut down the O/C forum because it's not really promoting anything positive toward mountain biking. Do not reply unless you have something helpful to say. We are in full control of your puppet strings now...."

    think I'm about done with MTBR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    The powers above are basically saying, "Stop screwing around, you're having too much fun. We need to be a bit more serious. Next, we are going to shut down the O/C forum because it's not really promoting anything positive toward mountain biking. Do not reply unless you have something helpful to say. We are in full control of your puppet strings now...."

    think I'm about done with MTBR.
    Really dude?

    I mean no offense, but it seems that you take this internet thing a little too seriously.

    I seriously doubt you are done with MTBR but getting off the PC and seeing the real world may be the best thing you could do for yourself.

    Just relax and don't take it so serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Really dude?

    I mean no offense, but it seems that you take this internet thing a little too seriously.

    I seriously doubt you are done with MTBR but getting off the PC and seeing the real world may be the best thing you could do for yourself.

    Just relax and don't take it so serious.
    You're probably right. I'm gonna be lurking a lot more now, though. The change after change thing is quite upsetting. I was coming here to enjoy myself, not to get upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Because he has what are considered the legit rep points, not those earned rep ho'ing after OC went live. The rest of us were stripped of the OC circle jerk points.
    but now I just feel dirty and broken LOL
    so much for the worlds greatest ponzi scheme


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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    I was coming here to enjoy myself, not to get upset.
    Hell, I was coming here for affirmation and the whole rep thing was working. Now what am I going to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    but now I just feel dirty and broken LOL
    so much for the worlds greatest ponzi scheme


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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Really dude?

    I mean no offense, but it seems that you take this internet thing a little too seriously.

    I seriously doubt you are done with MTBR but getting off the PC and seeing the real world may be the best thing you could do for yourself.

    Just relax and don't take it so serious.
    ambassadorhawg spends countless hours a week running his own bussiness, rides several times a week in some of the most beautiful and challenging terrain in the country, and you're telling him to get off the PC and see the world.

    Your comment is without basis and is therefore irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    You're probably right. I'm gonna be lurking a lot more now, though. The change after change thing is quite upsetting. I was coming here to enjoy myself, not to get upset.
    what is the general feeling on this thing in the secret 5000 post forum ?
    or did they move that up to 10,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Hell, I was coming here for affirmation and the whole rep thing was working. Now what am I going to do?

    I come here for the chicks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    what is the general feeling on this thing in the secret 5000 post forum ?

    Sj
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    This event reminds me of the USA's economy "bubble bursting". Too much worthless rep being created, bringing on a Rep-Recession as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikane View Post
    This event reminds me of the USA's economy "bubble bursting". Too much worthless rep being created, bringing on a Rep-Recession as a result.


    Is this the rep "cliff".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Just relax and don't take it so serious.
    Sorry dude but it is guys like you who take things too seriously here, often pissing on our fun parades with your snarky remarks. If you do not like what happens in the OC and things are too childish and too far removed from riding, do bother visiting here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apocalypso View Post
    Man, just sayin', you barking up the wrong tree.




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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Sorry dude but it is guys like you who take things too seriously here, often pissing on our fun parades with your snarky remarks. If you do not like what happens in the OC and things are too childish and too far removed from riding, do bother visiting here.

    Sti, you're at 93?

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    Maybe we should all stop acting like fools in OC and start contributing more to what this site is really about. Riding, helping fellow rider's, product review's etc.....

    Maybe we can stop into the Beginners section a little more and help up and comer's. (A little less redicule to newer rides would'nt hurt either).

    Clean up Passion. Back in the late '90's when this site started. There were only 5 or 6 forums back then. Passion was amazing. There were people posting pics of epic rides. Writing some truely amazing stories. Granted the internet has changed greatly since then. Mtn biking has gone mainstream. Passion use to inspire me to ride my bike. I took so many road trips based on the pics and writing in Passion. Now, sadly it's General.

    Let's clean up OC a little. Lets face it. Many of us have acted like a$$es in there lately. Myself included. If you would'nt say it to your spouse, momma, in laws, a coworker. You probobly should'nt say it in a forum. (If your insistent on acting like an a$$ everytime you post. Go hang out at PinkBike with the kids)

    Maybe try posting more reviews in the review forum. Let's face it. It sucks trying to wade through 50 pages of brand X or Y rocks. Trying to get solid opinions. Thats what reviews are for. Scroll through the review section. It's like a ghost town. It's what founded this site years ago.

    Final, get rid of rep all together. It was a much better place before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    You're probably right. I'm gonna be lurking a lot more now, though. The change after change thing is quite upsetting. I was coming here to enjoy myself, not to get upset.
    Still though, it isn't really anything to get upset about.
    It doesn't change the fact that you come here to post/learn and that you have made some virtual friends and possible some real live ones through here.

    The only change is to a ridiculous repping system that is really irrelevant to the real world or even to this virtual one for that matter.

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    wtf? this is stupid. rep is now curved? should post count be curved too? maybe join date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    ambassadorhawg spends countless hours a week running his own bussiness, rides several times a week in some of the most beautiful and challenging terrain in the country, and you're telling him to get off the PC and see the world.

    Your comment is without basis and is therefore irrelevant.
    Thanks for your input but he took it the right way and and took no offense,

    Therefore your comment is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Thanks for your input but he took it the right way and and took no offense,

    Therefore your comment is irrelevant.
    But yours was without basis, whereas mine had much basis, so even though both comments are irrelevant, mine is less so. So I win, chaching, gimme some rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Sorry dude but it is guys like you who take things too seriously here, often pissing on our fun parades with your snarky remarks. If you do not like what happens in the OC and things are too childish and too far removed from riding, do bother visiting here.

    lol @ this

    You take things too seriously....no you do....no, you do.....

    I guess we could keep tossing that banter back and forth.
    So which one of is the pot and which one of us is the kettle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    But yours was without basis, whereas mine had much basis, so even though both comments are irrelevant, mine is less so. So I win, chaching, gimme some rep.

    I have nothing.... you win.


    Unfortunately, my rep is maxed out for the day.
    Not that it would make a difference in your demigod status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    lol @ this

    You take things too seriously....no you do....no, you do.....

    I guess we could keep tossing that banter back and forth.
    So which one of is the pot and which one of us is the kettle?
    Sti is the pot, kjlued is the kettle. No, wait, Sti is the kettle. No, wait. I'm so confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    I have nothing.... you win.


    Unfortunately, my rep is maxed out for the day.
    Not that it would make a difference in your demigod status.
    Lighten up, I'm funn'in with you. I spend 60 hours a week managing a machine shop, I come here to unwind, and try to share some experiences with like minded individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    wtf? this is stupid. rep is now curved? should post count be curved too? maybe join date?
    My d*ck has been curved for as long as I can remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy03 View Post
    My d*ck has been curved for as long as I can remember.
    you didn't break it when you were a kid did ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Lighten up, I'm funn'in with you. I spend 60 hours a week managing a machine shop, I come here to unwind, and try to share some experiences with like minded individuals.
    That's where I am lucky, I get to kill things for a living every day so I have no need to lighten up.

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    okay, I go to sleep and I wake up and looks like the rep system has changed again. I now have 83 points. what's the change now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazukea View Post
    okay, I go to sleep and I wake up and looks like the rep system has changed again. I now have 83 points. what's the change now?
    we threw some love at ya

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    of course! thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    first of all, anybody with a tiny piece of respect for other people, wouldnt have made a rule that was set in confidentiaily like neg repping, and turned it around retrospectively, thats a break in trust, it didnt affect me, but its one hell of an un ethical thing to do, it boarders on reckless and shows not one iota of respect for the members of this site.
    Im a pretty fair person, i dont need experience running a website to understand that, thats called ethics, it was an unbelievably unprofessional thing to do, no mistake or making a boo boo, it was very poor form as has been expressed in other threads on this site.

    Secondly, why put a stupid system in place, that we could all see was easy to exploit from the moment we saw it, thats not making a mistake, thats called very poor planning with very little thought process put into it in the first place.

    Thirdly, the communication levels are very poor on here, prime example tonight, changing the rep system without one iota of explination that would have taken 5 minutes.

    these things arnt mistakes, its treating members like idiots and showing very little respect, but forget the last two points the first one is undesputable

    none of these come down to making a mistake, they come down to a lack of thought and lack of respect.
    Bro - the system was put in place with GOOD FAITH. We abused it a bit (having fun in the process) - we should really own to it. Admins didn't expect that the system would be played with, to such a scale. I was also part of it and it was fun. But it did skew the member rating quite a bit. For the good part - the system was accurate - AZ, marp, hutch, hawg come to mind. But there were some glaring anomalies with regards to the intent of the system. You must admit that.

    Privacy is really not a big deal if you ask me. It actually revealed some of our deficiencies - as we are still humans. It was fun to go through the neg rep revealed turmoil - in a weird way. But we survived that too. Took positives from it. There is NO PRIVACY on the net mate. If you think otherwise - you have to realign quickly.

    In the end - too much fuss about nothing. We had fun with it - and we will have fun again. Let the admins do what they think is right and we will adjust. The fun of this place is not dependent on these kind of changes.

    We just need to move on and exploit available means to have fun. With this group of people - it will not be a problem. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    That's where I am lucky, I get to kill things for a living every day so I have no need to lighten up.
    If it's people, I love you; if it's animals, I hate you.
    Ahhhh...Ahhhh....it's the hammy, it's the hammy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deke505 View Post
    you didn't break it when you were a kid did ya
    Haha, no. That little bastard sure can take a beatin.
    Ahhhh...Ahhhh....it's the hammy, it's the hammy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy03 View Post
    If it's people, I love you; if it's animals, I hate you.
    What if it is both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apocalypso View Post
    Reviews don't make the man, breh.

    Reputation can work, it just needs to be used less like money.
    I'm not your breh. Please carry yourself over to PinkBike with the other punks. Till you can remotely care on a conversation and respond in an adult like manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Mate, i didnt used to be layed back, i am layed back, but everyones entitled to get irritated n pissed off, everybody has their moments and when i have mine i dont fluff them up, i get straight to the point.

    I respect the way you go about things, like in fancis's thread you just said in a nice way, 'that doesnt seen too well thought out'' refering to the new rep system than you cant rep anybody twice.
    You say it that way, where as i say before i know anything about the new system, ''if the thought they have put into it before is any indication, there wont be any thought put into the new system either'' lol and im spot on right it seems.

    In our country we dont fluff things up n sugar coat things, i pride myself in givin it straight with no bu*lshit, thats the way i work and im proud of that.

    you like to tread softly, and try and go about things in a measured way, i respect that, but thats not me, imo theres nothing wrong with saying it straight, we just have different ways of going about it, but we probably have similar ideas about things.
    Yes im irritated tonight, im not often fired up, but everybody opporates in a different mannor, there might not be one right way to go about it other than being yourself

    cheers Mags.
    i don't think it is treading softly Tones, in my opinion... this site is not run by us. we all go about our daily (or nightly) businesses and come here to have fun. that is about it. admins run the site - with the direction from the owners... sure - things could have been done more sensibly and laying down a clear direction - but for what it is worth - we are still making more fuss about it than it is really worth it. repping system will be changed few more times - probably, until admins are happy with how it works. we will adjust and still have as much fun as ever. it is not about rep in the end.

    it's fine if you express yourself in the most direct way - nothing wrong with that. again, in the end you will still accept this place for what it is - because it is about people that are in it, not about rep or whose love muscle is bigger.

    i do regret for not seeing you hit the 200 mark. i am confident that it still happen before Christmas.

    2014.



    c'mon. feel free to going back to being funny, at your convenience. we need to go back to our regular programming... let the admins do their job. this change is really insignificant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    The powers above are basically saying, "Stop screwing around, you're having too much fun. We need to be a bit more serious. Next, we are going to shut down the O/C forum because it's not really promoting anything positive toward mountain biking. Do not reply unless you have something helpful to say. We are in full control of your puppet strings now...."

    think I'm about done with MTBR.
    hawg - you've got to be kidding me... i thought you loved this site because Nicole is hanging around here and freight and trail and more fun chicks... i also thought you developed some emotions towards Tones.

    now i am finding out you were here for the rep.

    after finding out Lance was a doper, this was the second hardest hit for me this year.

    please tell me you were just joking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    I come here for the chicks!!!
    bingo. i was here for the boobs.

    hey - where else can you find such a diverse group of people that share the same love for biking?

    okay, i guess RBR, but that is something else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    What if it is both?
    death row executioner?

    that is so cool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    i feel as though ive just been surprised butt raped by a total stranger in the night.....
    is that good or bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy03 View Post
    my mom says I'm cool and that's all that matters. Happy Holidays
    i think you are crazy.

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    this ^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    That's what I say. The Rep side-show has been an entertaining distraction. The real value is in meeting great people both here and outside, learning tricks of the trade, and helping people when there is something to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy03 View Post
    Haha, no. That little bastard sure can take a beatin.
    beatin a d*ck? apparently i missed some important development stages in my past life... can you quickly skim through important info on this subject for me please? screw the rep system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    hawg - you've got to be kidding me... i thought you loved this site because Nicole is hanging around here and freight and trail and more fun chicks... i also thought you developed some emotions towards Tones.

    now i am finding out you were here for the rep.

    after finding out Lance was a doper, this was the second hardest hit for me this year.

    please tell me you were just joking...
    I admit, I do not come here primarily for the mtn biking element of this website. I found a belonging to what I call "family members" in the O/C. I really don't even consider the O/C part of MTBR, just the place where it is located.

    Sure, I surf through all the "help me" forums here. But there are so many others that are qualified to answer correctly that I rarely reply...and also because the needed answers are usually already supplied. So, I find myself contributing less and less in a "helpful" way. I almost feel like I am wasting my time surfing there.

    In the O/C, we all have a common interest, mountain biking, but that's not what it's really about here (with the exception of the bike thread I started here). I started that thread here so that we can have a place within the O/C to indeed talk about bikes but within in it's confines as a respect to the O/Cs rules. That is some what of a contradiction but it really makes sense (to me).

    As far as the rep system goes, I am once again left with a bitter taste in my mouth. I made it clear, as did many others here, that the rep system was not needed. It has caused fights, and even escalated them.

    What I suggest the Admins do here is dump the system all together and get strict about offensiveness. Induct enough Mods (with the proper authority) to triple or quadruple the current Mods staff. Give the mods the power to block IP addresses after one one warning for repeat offenders. It's that simple. It would be a lot less ugly in here with a little more firmness.

    The rep system will continue to be abused until it is gone. We the members will find a new way to abuse it. It doesn't work. It's a failed attempt to bring order. Get rid of it once and for all. PLEASE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    ... because Nicole is hanging around here and freight and trail and more fun chicks...
    Interesting ... did not know trail6 was female. I only learned freight was last week. Based on what you guys tell me, I'm starting to suspect tone's is medically somewhere in the middle. The things you learn in the OC forum. Hmm ...

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