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    Where did the SS FAQ's go? I do not see them anywhere. Any Ideas? They were a nice resource.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captnpenguin View Post
    I love the quietness of the ride and that I really have nothing to blame but me and my fat a$$ if I can't make it up a hill

    I learned how to ride on a SS way back. My dad assembled a red cruiser for me when I was a kid. This was before cassettes. I complained a lot about the huge crank and having the smallest sprocket since it was really, really, really hard to pedal. No one liked riding my cruiser except me. The other kids liked each other's bikes so much and swapped a lot. LOL!

    But to be honest it seems more efficient to pedal than smaller cranks and larger sprockets. Thing is our street ran uphill. I had a 12T sprocket if I'm not mistaken, and the crank was as big as china ware.

    I'm currently on the build. Still an SS

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    Big shout out to the owner of our LBS anyways. I got a set of 2 cogs (12T and 18T) plus 2 spacers and a lock ring from Da Bomb single conversion kit last week and I rang her earlier to ask on cassettes that sold separately as I thought I'd have a problem using 8/9 speed chains with the single cog. She could have sold me a cassette and made extra on my purchase but she actually informed me that the single cogs I got with the kit will accommodate the usual 8/9 speed chains.

    That made my day!

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    I singlespeed in Santa Cruz and my geared friend calls me crazy, but hey, im right on his ass during every climb

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    Quote Originally Posted by majurglery View Post
    I singlespeed in Santa Cruz and my geared friend calls me crazy, but hey, im right on his ass during every climb
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    wet as holy hell there now

    the sandy bits should finally be packed down though

    see ya on the trails
    I know, Ive been itching to get out there, but it looks like I still have some waiting to do

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    I haven't had a singlespeed since my old bmx bike... but I'll admit I've had a guy on a SS blow right past me on climb... its embarrassing... i'm in a granny gear...

    makes me want to at least try SS and see whats it all about.

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    Another SS success story...

    A friend of mine is a bike commuter but had never really tried mountain biking. I have a few extra mountain bikes so we hit the local park with him riding an ancient santa cruz heckler. At one point it was a great bike but the hydraulics are now squishy, suspension like a non-damped pogo stick, worn drive train, stictioned derailer cables, etc. But he had so much fun that the next day he was looking to get a bike for cheap.

    My advice was to forget the sporting-good store cheapo bikes and instead get a used single speed. The reasoning was, with a budget of $400, he could get a decent single speed rather than a new piece of crap. Less components means that the budget is split between fewer things. He ended up finding a SS bianchi locally on craig's list. An old 140mm marz air fork, avid speed dial levers with BB7 calipers. Not a bad setup for the terrain around here.

    The good news is that he loves it. The first time out on this bike he only went over the bars once. He went home with one break lever broken off from the crash but was able to pick one up for cheap at a LBS. The next time out he started playing on all the log piles and stunts, never caring if he slipped off sideways. On a geared bike, he would have ripped the derailer off at least 3 times on that ride. But instead he was able to keep riding and playing on stunts.

    So there you go, for $400 a new mountain biker was born. He's riding an indestructible steel single speed and loving it.

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    Many of the local trails are fast and flowy, comprised of 50 - 100' climbs followed by the same in decent. My riding style in these trails left me most often using a 32/20 combo. The trails are fairly sandy which would greatly advance the wear of a single gear - causing me to replace the entire cassette and chain. This adds up when you are doing it twice per year. After replacing two cassettes and chains in one season, I decided to get a single speed for riding the local trails. I now try to ride it anywhere I can - and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRFed_surfer View Post
    running wider bars with a SS helps a bunch.. i stand up alot and pull on the bars every which way to get the most power down. plus it opens up your arms for better breathing.
    I agree.. got the 780mm boobar myself. Wider bars just makes things extra easier to handle. Plus its hard to enjoy a ride if you stick on the saddle most of the time.

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    Single speed is fun; I have been SSing for 3 seasons now and it has made me a stronger rider. But I have come to the conclusion that SS is a novelty.

    If I had to have only one bike it wouldn't be a SS. While I don't think one needs 27 or 30 gears, having only one really limits what you can ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonDartFrog View Post
    Single speed is fun; I have been SSing for 3 seasons now and it has made me a stronger rider. But I have come to the conclusion that SS is a novelty.

    If I had to have only one bike it wouldn't be a SS. While I don't think one needs 27 or 30 gears, having only one really limits what you can ride.
    The same could be said about just about every type of bike. They're all novelties because they all limit what you can ride. My downhill bike isn't useful anywhere but at lift access resorts. My road bike limits me to the road. My trail bikes prevents me from dirt jumping and downhilling. Etc.

    What really matters is what type of riding someone does most. That determines what is the best single bike to have, if you are to have just one bike. For some people, a single speed meets that criteria best. For others it doesn't.

    I primarily ride single speed because it works best for my local parks. Hilly, rocky, muddy, rooty, lot's of log stunts and no straight level sections where low gearing is an issue. Around here you are either mashing up a hill while standing or bombing down the other side while dodging trees and rocks. Single speeds work great.

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    Singlespeed is great because it's simple and quiet. All I can hear going down the trail is my big balloony tires bouncing over everything

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    I have a Cannondale comfort hybrid that I wasn't riding very often so I converted it to a SS. I have other bikes with gears so wanted something different.

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    Been riding an SS for about 6 months and cannot see myself going back to gears. Went out with my son on Sunday, he's a fit 15 yr old and I am not, but left him on the climbs and he only passed me on the flats/downhill tracks where I spin out. But the best bit was listening to him crunch through gears over and over to get just the right one for that track. Then the inevitable chain suck, gear mis selection and accompanying language that would make his Mum blush!

    I ride SS for simplicity, lightness and because I am riding all the same trails but much better than I ever used to on my full susser.Since I started SS riding has gone from a small band of "oddballs" to most of my riding mates having one in the shed/garage.

    But the best bit of all is that they can be built for next to nothing. With the UK mags advertising the latest bikes at c3k or $5K, building one for less than 200 or $300 makes me a very happy man. (I'm from Yorkshire - renown for people who are "careful" with money!)
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    In (my) order of importance...

    Quiet, all I hear is rubber on dirt.

    Simplicity, I just turn the pedals, no thinking about front & rear derailleurs, timing my shifts, etc. just ride.

    Reliable, less to clean, maintain, break.

    Makes me stronger rider, I can go anaerobic and stay there longer than my geared buddies.

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    My love for singlespeed comes from a childhood problem.
    Back when I was around 8 years old I had a BMX bike and loved it alot, one day my mom decided I needed something better, sold my BMX and bought a geared mountain bike, it was a bright orange Caloi with 6 speeds. That mountain bike never worked properly, and it'd spend most of its time collecting dust, which made me hate gears.
    I've been in love with the simplicity of singlespeed bikes ever since, I am the only person in town riding a single mountain bike, everyone crazy about the latest lightest gear and they think I'm crazy for not having gears, and they get amazed when I'm able to climb in front of them.
    I ride everywhere everyday, rain or shine and I like a simple reliable bike.

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    My love with singlespeeding has just started and I don't know why it hasn't been sooner.

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    single speed convert

    I have been riding mountain bikes for 27 years and always wondered why guys were riding single speed. I have raced against them in cross country races, cycle cross races and see them around. So, I just built my first single speed and now understand why. I am addicted! The bike is amazing, Santa Cruz Highball Carbon, with singulator, easton carbon wheels and weighs 19.5 pounds. Besides that, I have so much fun riding it. I am selling my 26" full suspension bike at the moment. Try it! You will love it.

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    SS rules. I'm a new convert. It is more effort but gives you more back. Great for an upper body workout too. Can't understand why it took me so long to discover it...

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    Thoughts on a frame. Would this Diamond Back frame make a good SS trail bike?
    It is a Hybrid Frame. Not sure how much abuse it can handle.
    Sorry about posting here but as you can see by my post count i'm a noob on this site.
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    I get fond memory's of comin off the training wheels when talkn about single speed.

    If I could still show you the first bike that I had without training wheels it would look as if someone placed it on its side onto concrete and and pulled it by its handlebars while someone else pressed the frame while they pulled.

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    I was never sure of the hype around SS. Been racing road and mtb for many years and always thought why would I not want any gears.....until I got on a SS. It will change your life!!! You may not go as fast is some guys but it is super fun and rewarding when you have pushed and pulled to get up a climb and everyone else was sitting in their granny gears.

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    I got my ss because i couldnt afford a fancy bike...$650 bucks and have a race ready rig...you never know how much power you are losing with suspension until you go rigid...every calorie you burn goes straight to the ground...has been one of my favorite bikes ever

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    and you cant beat the quiet/tight feeling ride..but my trails are very smooth and fast...

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    My GT singlespeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock622 View Post
    My GT singlespeed

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    I understand why some people choose to run ss. On my 27 speed i only use like 3-4 gears most of the time. My big question is why is no one running belt drive?

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    Because the original incarnation of the belt drive was a total flop with many issues. Basically, the belt takes a higher tension and loads up the bearings and frame flex was allowing the belt to slip off on the first gen bikes.
    Gates redesigned the belt system with a new center track and they now have a frame spec that calls for fairly stiff chain stays (belt stays). The 2nd gen product seems to work, but costs lots more especially if you want to be able to change gearing once in a while. Also, you realize that you have to have a frame made for belts since there has to be a break in either the chainstay or the seat stay on the drive side.

    Also chains are 98% efficient and belts are only around 95% efficient at transmitting power and by the time you figure the frame is heavier the overall weight is more. Also, the extra bearing loads might further reduce efficiency, but that would be hard to quantify. The great advantage of the belts is practically zero maintenance and long life.
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    I was just curious. I saw 1 or 2 belt drive 29ers at my lbs and wondered why no one has converted anything to belt. That makes total sense about the frame thing. Can't break a belt like you can a chain.
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    One of my single speeds is full rigid and at some point I would probably like to swap that to a belt drive frame. I already like the fact that I don't have to clean the fork after every ride and if it had a belt it would basically be a no maintenance bike. I hardly ever change the gearing and if it was belt I would just never change it. My other SS has a Fox and lighter (aluminum) frame. It is my go fast ss and I would not want a belt on it since I gear it for the course, etc.
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    From what i read Frank Schneider won megavalanche with a belt drive single speed.
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    This belt subtopic is very interesting.. I suspected as much about the low efficiency, but had no idea about frame stiffness requirements. Wanted a belt-driven Ti rigid SS for the same reason as yourdaguy.

    BTW, Frank Schneider's hardtail is built around a Nicolai frame and I guess its rear triangle is very stiff.
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    Tested my El Mariachi on the trails (the most technical and steep we have) for the first time yesterday. For the first time i realized what riding rigid SS on techical and steep terrain really is. I like it's handling. The bars seemed to be high at first, so i lowered the stem and it felt great both climbing and descending. The climbing felt different from 26'' wheels - it is harder to accelerate so it needs some time to adapt, get familiar with 29er and use it's strengths better (my first 29er). However i haven't ever climbed the stuff that I climbed yesteday on any bike so maybe I'm subjective.
    The great thing ridng SS is your ability to see your weak sides. I saw that I'm not strong enough to climb everything so I had to walk from time to time. Another great thing is that SS helps yo to strengthen your weak sides and to become stronger. Riding SS gives you the ULTIMATE workout - it's great both aerobic and anaerobic training, it involves all mscle groups, it improves your balance. What is most important it is allways challenging you: to climb further, to ride more technical trails, to pedal harder, to spin faster. If you like to challenge yourself and to push your self to the limit of your abilities you should love riding SS.
    I think I've become an SS addict. I've got 3 SS's: salsa el mariachi for XC (32/18), giant stp ss for jumping and pumptrack (33/16), giant bowery fixed gear for commuting and road training (48/17). I love all of them!

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    Single speed is fun, different, keeps me interested, new challenges on same terain.

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    I'm a newbie here.
    Just converted my Santa Cruz Highball into a SS., and I now know why gurus here brag so much about SS. The ride is great. I thought the 32-18 gearing was too easy, but it keeps me pumpin all day long up and down the hill at 5km/hr to 30km/hr. I also like the simlicity of all things.

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    I have found that SSing is much more enjoyable then riding my geared fs. I have less that can go wrong, less to fix, less to maintain. I do not have expensive parts on it at all. I am a cheapo and just want a bike that works. I have zero problems keeping up with my group of riders and can assure you that i have just as much fun with a 1/3 of the problems and a 1/3 of the costs they may incur. I know (short of my chain breaking or taco'ing a wheel) that any problems I am having on the trail have to do with me not my bike.

    I still try to grab some air off the spots that can launch me good. I try to hit all the features I can within reason. I might be bombing through the single track but thats just how I ride to keep my flow and momentum for the next nasty climb.

    I know little about the newest and greatest gear and dont need it to enjoy what I have. My steel Surly is the best bang for the buck I have ever spent on a bike, although I do miss my '98 Stumpjumper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igoreha View Post
    Riding SS gives you the ULTIMATE workout - it's great both aerobic and anaerobic training, it involves all mscle groups, it improves your balance.
    Absolutely.

    On my geared bike I used to sit and spin on the flat bits, sit and spin on the long and not so steep climbs, sit and spin up the semi-hard and hard climb, almost never standing up when climbing and only being able to stand and mash for a very short time before being forced to sit down and spin again. My primary use of standing and mashing was to get a short burst of acceleration in order to sit back down and spin again at a slightly higher cadence than before.

    On my ss I sit and spin on the flat bits but since I can't pick a taller gear for more speed I'm slowly improving my max. cadence. I also sit and spin on the long and not so steep climbs, but at a slightly taller gear than I would have picked on my geared bike so I'm building up the power to climb those kind of hills at a higher speed. On the semi-hard and hard climbs I stand and mash. My standing and mashing power and stamina has vastly improved since I started riding ss. I used to only be able to stand and mash for a very short burst, now I can keep going for much longer. Also it makes me use my upper body muscles a lot more.

    All in all, as Igoreha says, ss'ing makes a much more complete workout, I can no longer just keep sitting and spinning but have to work on my standing and mashing, my cadence and my upper body too.

    ..oh and I like the fun!

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    After gradually converting from a roadie to a MTBer and then to a SSer I was having a hard time explaining my fitness improvement at 58. I used to ride 5-7,000 road miles a year often competing with young buddies for bragging rights. Yet in the last 6 months since doing almost all of my riding SS, I was losing weight and my resting heart rate dropped from 42 to 40. I was at a loss to explain this since I didn't seem to be working any harder.
    Then I read a summery of a paper by a Japanese researcher named Tabata. He found that training at max exertion for 20 second bursts with 10 second rests improved fitness way faster than people that did hours more steady state training. Well the places I ride around here provide an average of 20 seconds of intense climbing and 10 seconds of rest on the way down. Obviously, not all hills are exactly 20 seconds; but overall SS provides a Tabata workout. Knowing this, I choose to ride at places that have these 20 second climbs (many of the places around here are 5-10 seconds and a moment to the bottom. This is insightful information as far as I can tell and has improved my fitness more than swimming, running, racquetball and road riding.
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    I'm 48 and recovering from knee surgery (torn rear lateral medial meniscus) exactly five weeks ago. I was back on the bike in two weeks, rode the brutal climbing on some of our local trails , and about 95% recovered

    Just got fully cleared by my ortho surgeon. The secret to rapid recovery? Singlespeed!

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    Quicksilver

    Just watch the movie called "Quicksilver" starring Kevin Bacon and you'll know why.

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    Singlespeed is just more punk.

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    Because when its f'n freezing out i can wear big thick mitts

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    I got back into riding at the end of last year to get my fitness up and weight down, and going SS is a great way of benchmarking the progress.

    There's this one short, steep hill near the end of my commute home, and because I always tackle it in the same gear I can see just how much stronger I'm getting every week, and know it's not because of gear choices or fine points of cadence, but because I'm mashing it out faster and stronger each time.

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    Hey guys
    Just bought my new SS today after having a cannondale badboy ultra 09' it's hard at the moment but I'm sure I will get use to it, and I sure can feel those quads! Hahah

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    When im riding my geared squishy bike I can't tell if im being lazy or not while climbing, on my SS, If if not trying and being lazy on my SS im not even moving.

    And why ride? To see the looks on the faces of all my buds on their geared bikes when I kill them on all the climbs.

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    took my newly built up 1x1 for my first ever mountain bike ride (singlespeed or otherwise) and really really liked it. Hard work and I had to push a few times but man was it fun. I went out with my buddy riding front sus and 3x8 drivetrain and blazed past him the whole way. Singlespeed mountain biking is quite fun and exciting. I do want to get a larger cog for my rear wheel though.

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    Single Speed riding is like that Prius episode of South Park.

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    couldn't you not use your other gears, why do you need to buy a whole new bike to ride one ratio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reillyj View Post
    couldn't you not use your other gears, why do you need to buy a whole new bike to ride one ratio?
    1000 words won't explain it as well as 1 ride will.
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