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    Ti SS Frame with Rear Cush and Solid Stays

    Anyone making Ti frames with the rear suspension and solid chain stays any more? I've seen some from Dean. Can these run a SS set up with no tensioner? Since the chain stay distance doesnt change during its movement it should stay consistant in length for a single speed set up. Just thought of a little cush for my tush if running a SS HT.

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    This is MY opinion: unless you ride relatively flat trails, you won't be spending a lot of time sitting down while pedaling pushing major power. I was looking for a softail initially, but decided to go with a Ti hardtail, with a suspension seatpost. I've tried the old RockShox, both Thudbusters, Nitro...something and U.S.E. So far, the RockShox (I paid $7 for a used one...) and the USE have been good for me. But again, I don't spend much time sitting on my SS.

    This is what applies to me. Your experience might differ!

    Enjoy your SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnydrz
    This is MY opinion: unless you ride relatively flat trails, you won't be spending a lot of time sitting down while pedaling pushing major power. I was looking for a softail initially, but decided to go with a Ti hardtail, with a suspension seatpost. I've tried the old RockShox, both Thudbusters, Nitro...something and U.S.E. So far, the RockShox (I paid $7 for a used one...) and the USE have been good for me. But again, I don't spend much time sitting on my SS.

    This is what applies to me. Your experience might differ!

    Enjoy your SS

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    Thanks for the advice, your are probably right. Why do you like the Rox shox better than the thudbuster?

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    Maybe the Salsa Dos Niner?

    http://salsacycles.com/bikes/dos_niner/

    Not Ti, but close?
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    I enjoyed the Thudbuster a lot, but I felt it was more springy, if I wasn't careful, it could sometimes feel like a springboard. The reason I'm not using the Thudbuster anymore is also because I sold it to a friend a while back... My legs would also touch it sometimes and that bugged me. Otherwise, it is a very good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Man
    Anyone making Ti frames with the rear suspension and solid chain stays any more? I've seen some from Dean. Can these run a SS set up with no tensioner? Since the chain stay distance doesnt change during its movement it should stay consistant in length for a single speed set up. Just thought of a little cush for my tush if running a SS HT.
    Why Ti? For full suspension aluminum is a better material to use, since you don't need the compliance of titanium.

    If you're ok with used, a Schwinn Sweetspot builds up into a nice SS xc ride. If you want knew, check out this:
    http://www.castellanodesigns.com/

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    Ti with cush

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnydrz
    I enjoyed the Thudbuster a lot, but I felt it was more springy, if I wasn't careful, it could sometimes feel like a springboard. The reason I'm not using the Thudbuster anymore is also because I sold it to a friend a while back... My legs would also touch it sometimes and that bugged me. Otherwise, it is a very good post.

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    Were you using the LT or ST?

    I hate the look but the ST I sometimes run takes some edge off especially when you can sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad mechanic
    Why Ti? For full suspension aluminum is a better material to use, since you don't need the compliance of titanium.

    If you're ok with used, a Schwinn Sweetspot builds up into a nice SS xc ride. If you want knew, check out this:
    http://www.castellanodesigns.com/
    he's talking about softtails or quasi softtails in which case the properties of titanium make it very useful. Aluminum just doesn't hold up under the same application.

    Siren makes very nice softtails out of aluminum but using a replaceable titanium plate to do the actual flexing. Best of both worlds imho. They offer a version with sliding SS dropouts.

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    I really dig the ST on my moncog 29er. I didn't get the LT because I thought it would be too springy

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    Quote:
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    I enjoyed the Thudbuster a lot, but I felt it was more springy, if I wasn't careful, it could sometimes feel like a springboard. The reason I'm not using the Thudbuster anymore is also because I sold it to a friend a while back... My legs would also touch it sometimes and that bugged me. Otherwise, it is a very good post.

    Johnnydrz

    Were you using the LT or ST?

    I hate the look but the ST I sometimes run takes some edge off especially when you can sit.
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    Actually, I am using the ST on my singlespeed road bike. It really takes the edge off on bad roads (plenty of that around here...). On my mtb, I had the LT. I had the very first version of it, before I ever tried a double-suspension bike. I honestly think it is still a very good option if you want to stick to a hardtail. Lot's of travel, just need to learn how to "weigh" the seat properly in certain situations, so you don't bounce off.

    Yes, they do change the distance and angle set-up when you ride, but after years of using them, I think I will always have one (suspension seatpost, any model) on one of my bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    he's talking about softtails or quasi softtails in which case the properties of titanium make it very useful. Aluminum just doesn't hold up under the same application.

    Siren makes very nice softtails out of aluminum but using a replaceable titanium plate to do the actual flexing. Best of both worlds imho. They offer a version with sliding SS dropouts.
    Very interesting, a bit expensive though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Man
    Very interesting, a bit expensive though

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    I wasn't sure of your budget, but it's about $700 cheaper than the Dean you asked about so I thought that was actually quite good. Soft-tails are generally pricey these days, and anything in Ti is going to be $$$$

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    You can always look for an old carbon Trek Y bike...kind of like I am doing.

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    There are a couple of builders that make them, but they are big money for a Ti softtail.

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