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    Ti 3-piece cranks

    Someone just posted these over on Ridemonkey.

    They look nice. Hopefully they will come to fruitition, be well made and NOT $500.



    # TI Crank Arms 48 Spline
    # TI Hollow 48 Spline Spindle
    # Eastern Pro BB with Super wide bearings

    Weights
    # 1.35 pounds including BB
    # 1 lb. Crank Arms and spindle.

    http://www.easternbikes.com/a/produc.../ticranks.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    Someone just posted these over on Ridemonkey.

    They look nice. Hopefully they will come to fruitition, be well made and NOT $500.
    I bet they will be close to that price, with the profiles pushing $200 new, those will be pretty pricey. The weight is really nice, bet terminaut will be eying those things.

    pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsser
    I bet they will be close to that price, with the profiles pushing $200 new, those will be pretty pricey. The weight is really nice, bet terminaut will be eying those things.

    pretty.
    he'll have to get in line behind me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    he'll have to get in line behind me.
    Profiles too heavy, even for your vulture ??
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    I doubt they'll offer the length choices that Profile does, though. I'm hoping they at least do 180mm, which is still rather common in BMX.

    Another interesting thing on these is the hollow spindle: Does anyone know if the Ti spindle that Profile makes is hollow or not?

    I'd be interested to know if these Easterns are made overseas or not. I'm assuming they are.

    Another thing:
    All you 3-piece crank weight weenies out there (talk about an oxymoron): check out these Ti crank/chainring bolts for Profile cranks. I just picked some up. They are mm hex instead of annoying 7/32" like the Profiles. Staff BMX.com sells 'em.

    http://www.knightbikeco.com/products.htm
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    im not sure that the many small splines is a good idea. Seems strip prone. Other than that they look really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer
    im not sure that the many small splines is a good idea. Seems strip prone. Other than that they look really cool.
    Most all of the chromo 3 piecers are 48 spline just like that, and have been for a long time with little issue. Lots of automobile axles are that way (at least the rear ones that I have pulled out as well. Provides a lot more surface area for the crank and spindle to interface.
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    WIth Aluminum cranks/spindles, it would be strip-prone - that's why no BMX aluminum cranks are 48 spline - they're all square or very few splines.

    Cromo doesn't strip that easily. I'm not sure about Ti, but I bet it'll be fine if the manufacturing is up to spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    ... Does anyone know if the Ti spindle that Profile makes is hollow or not?
    Not [nm]
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    Hi guys - I got an email reply from the guy at Eastern bikes.

    He says the cranks will be available in Mar/April depending on testing. Price will be $450 or maybe a little less.
    IMHO, that is not a HORRIBLE price if they really meet the claimed weight and are well-built and tough. We'll see...

    Also, he said that the BB-only is available now. I'd like a hollow Ti spindle myself.

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    Are those guys fly sport in the past?

    Anyway, before shedding your $$$ take a look at these!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poff
    Anyway, before shedding your $$$ take a look at these!

    Why? Are we supposed to draw a connection between Eastern(a reputeable BMX mfg) and that brand?

    There are 2 issues I can guess on the broke cranks you have pictured:
    1. Bad welding
    2. Poor material choice (looks like too thin in the walls)

    At any rate, these Eastern cranks look nice. Pricey!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    Hi guys - I got an email reply from the guy at Eastern bikes.

    He says the cranks will be available in Mar/April depending on testing. Price will be $450 or maybe a little less.
    IMHO, that is not a HORRIBLE price if they really meet the claimed weight and are well-built and tough. We'll see...

    Also, he said that the BB-only is available now. I'd like a hollow Ti spindle myself.

    -rob

    Cool, did they say anything about length options??
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    didn't terminaut or SS-7 Mike crack their Morati ti cranks too?

    no direct corelation, I'm just sayin'...


    Quote Originally Posted by poff
    Anyway, before shedding your $$$ take a look at these!

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    Anyway, before shedding your $$$ take a look at these!
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    Sweet!!!!!!! 4 piece Ti Cranks!!!!! Good heads up man!


    I will not be wasting MY money on the 3 piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    didn't terminaut or SS-7 Mike crack their Morati ti cranks too?

    no direct corelation, I'm just sayin'...
    I have personally seen (and touched) two cracked Morati ti cranks and seen pics of 4-5 different broken ones on this site. They were pulled from the market because of failures.
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    No - Eastern didn't mention length options... but I told him offering multiple sizes would be good for us MTBers.

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    Riddle me this, Batman

    What piece of equipment on a bike other than the rims is most likely to receive massive force or hits? The crankset, of course. In my humble opinion, the whole area from the dropouts to the bottom bracket is where you want the most strength and should give the least concern to a few ounces saved. Also, it enhances rather than diminishes the center of gravity if the weight is carried lower. And, where do you want the least flex? I could add more, but I won't because I'm pretty much blowin' on pure conjecture anyway (pick your favorite smiley face here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsser
    Profiles too heavy, even for your vulture ??
    Hey now!
    Actually, I haven't noticed the weight really...just the awesome stiffness.
    I mean, I know the bike is physically heavier, but it doesn't pedal that way.
    I'm sure I'll feel it when I throw a squish up front again...

    BTW, I too emailed the co. regarding length options..I'll post their reply.

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    A couple of observations on these cranks:

    1. The pedal and spindle bosses pierce the main tube (adding strength and making a break like the one pictured unlikely)
    2. Main tubing it tapered and unbent (another way of adding stength without stress)

    IMO they look great. I wonder how they can make em without paying royalties to profile. I mean, same way of manufacturing, the same spindle interface, heck they even look the same. If cost were not an issue I would give em a shot. I wouldn't bet money against term throwing some on one or more of his rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscot420
    ...I wonder how they can make em without paying royalties to profile. I mean, same way of manufacturing, the same spindle interface, heck they even look the same...
    There are many, many cranks made this way with the same spindle. The Profile has been around for at least 20 years, probably longer. Patents generally last 17 years. Profile may not have even been the first to use the basic design.
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    Bump.
    Available now for $450.
    663 grams

    http://www.danscomp.com/cgi-bin/haze...IL&item=451026

    Who wants to be the guinea pig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    Who wants to be the guinea pig?

    Quote Originally Posted by rpet
    FS: 180mm Profile cranks w/ FSA hollow-axle quad-bearing BB and TI crank/chainring bolts. $115 pm me if interested.
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    The broken TI Cranks in that picture are Propeller TIs

    http://www.fly-sports.com/products/cranks.html

    At 350g (and $900), they are claimed to be the lightest crankset on earth - so if THEY break, that doesn't mean the 660g Eastern will break, too.


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    Don't believe everything that Dan's Comp says. I have had numerous issues with them, namely that they put shi# in the catalog or online that they don't actually have, or never actually did!

    Those are nice looking cranks. I'm sure that they're not as bombproof as Profiles, (and I don't know anyone who beats their warrentee program!) It'd be nice to drop 2 lbs without losing that much strength though.

    Side note, here's a funny chart from Dan's. Can't get the link to work, go to "cranks" then look in the upper left for the "crank sizing chart." Looks like I better try and find some XTR's in 190mm!!!!!

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