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    talk me out of it - Jabberwocky

    So I've been watching the deal at Huck-n-Roll now for a week, putting the Jabberwocky and Odis fork in my cart several times, but not pulling the trigger. I need some thoughts.

    My current SS is a 2009 Chro-Mo SE Stout running BB7s, and stock except for a 410mm Thomson Elite Setback seatpost. I bought the bike for a steal, and it is a 17.5", though all other bikes that I own or have owned are 19". I had to get the setback seapost to give me the leg extension I needed, as well as a little more room in the cockpit. I can fly on this bike, but don't know if I had a 19" SS (or 20" in the Jabberwocky's case) if the ride would be even better.

    What do you think? Would you drop $450 on the new frame and fork, and swap components over just to get a bike that fits better? (I have the original seatpost, and I'll get a new headset). Is the Jabberwocky that good??

    Please discuss. I need to know by tomorrow to pull the trigger and get the deal!

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    The Jabberwocky is that good,and for that price? Yeah,my advice (take that for what it is*) is pull the trigger if the $'s there and you can budget it,the ride's sweet,real sweet It's so sweet I also bought a Bander not long after my Jabber. If you do,just be sure to post porn...er...pics of it for us to admire

    (*opinions are like buttholes,everyone has one and most stink )

    Edit: Besides,as you get around to buying all new bits for the Jabber,you can put the Scout that's been serving you well back together for both a beater,and a loaner for friends wanting to ride (or try the SS or 29"er koolaid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by John.M View Post
    ...Would you drop $450 on the new frame and fork, and swap components over just to get a bike that fits better?...
    I paid much more than that for a better fit. Fit is everything.

    Well, almost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John.M View Post
    What do you think? Would you drop $450 on the new frame and fork, and swap components over just to get a bike that fits better? (I have the original seatpost, and I'll get a new headset). Is the Jabberwocky that good??

    Please discuss. I need to know by tomorrow to pull the trigger and get the deal!
    I just got my Jabberwocky this past week. I haven't built it up yet so I can't comment on the ride. It does look nicer than the photos on their web site. It is an excellent bike - especially for the money - and you'll certainly get more top-tube length out of a 20" Jabber. Fit is the most important thing in a good bike in my opinion. If you're feeling cramped on the Stout then I would think it would be worth the expense (that is, assuming you're paying all your bills and have the extra $450 to burn).

    Years ago, I sold a Litespeed frame that was the wrong size and replaced it with a $120 Supergo frame that was a perfect fit for me. I have no regrets on that decision. The Litespeed was clearly the "nicer" frame but I rode so much better on that cheap Supergo. It took me years to convince myself to give up on the Litespeed after I realized it was a poor fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John.M View Post
    Would you drop $450 on the new frame and fork, and swap components over just to get a bike that fits!



    Yep, without a doubt.

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    I'd be glad to talk you out of it.
    If the fit is better, its worth it. After a few long days in the saddle, any bad part about fit is noticed for hours and hours and hours.
    Mine grew gears rather quickly.... now I can actually ride up real hills with a loaded bike!

    Its always fun to wake up to a bunch of marshy stream crossings.


    We've seen a few nice views together


    And even been on a nice romantic walk or two.


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    So there you go. On the Jabber or any similar quality bike, you'll have a bit more room to grow than the SE. But pretty much any bike that fits will get the job done if the pilot is willing and able. Ride On.

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    Do it! Bet ya won't... lol
    Buy a f-ing bike maybe you wouldn't be fat

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    Thanks guys - just what I needed... to push me over the edge!!!

    The build will take a couple of months. I have to figure out how to hide this from the Misses. And no, don't worry, I didn't use the mortgage payment to buy the bike (great advice by the way).

    Order has been placed for the Jabberwocky and Odis, as well as a few other goodies to help it all go together. Thanks again!!!

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    I've had my Jabber for two years. I also have a geared 26er, and a 1x9 GF. The Jabber ALWAYS feels like home when I climb back on..."ooooh, hello Jabber." Hands down, feels right...for me.

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    Yo. I know a guy with a Vassago and he abandoned superior 26" wheels for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John.M View Post
    Thanks guys - just what I needed... to push me over the edge!!!

    The build will take a couple of months. I have to figure out how to hide this from the Misses. And no, don't worry, I didn't use the mortgage payment to buy the bike (great advice by the way).

    Order has been placed for the Jabberwocky and Odis, as well as a few other goodies to help it all go together. Thanks again!!!
    Mad props,Brother! You won't be disappointed

    On the note of hiding it,do better than I did when I built mine earlier this year (she kinda noticed there was a new "green one,black one and grey one" hanging out in the shed...that's the Jabber,Bander and Origin 8,LOL!).....
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    I have a 2008 Jabberwocky and it is without a doubt, my favorite bike out of everything I have owned over the last 21 years. I also agree with Ant-Eater, for the money, the fit and finish of the frame is outstanding. The ODIS fork, unfortunately does not live up to the frame in this aspect. It definitely was designed around this frame geometry and rides nice, but the bottom of the steerer is very jagged and a serious eye sore. Looks like someone was in a hurry with a cutting torch when they cut the tube and did not bother to clean it up. Yeah, it is not very noticeable to most people, but I know its there and how much I paid for the fork. I have wondered if they are all this way or if I just happen to get the one made on Friday an hour before quitting time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarth View Post
    Yo. I know a guy with a Vassago and he abandoned superior 26" wheels for it.
    Pssst...hey kid,your ignorance's showing,just thought you orta know
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    Quote Originally Posted by umarth View Post
    Yo. I know a guy with a Vassago and he abandoned superior 26" wheels for it.
    That guy knows his ****! You should listen to him more often.
    I ride at ludicrous speed

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    For someone 6' 32" inseam, which size would you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    For someone 6' 32" inseam, which size would you recommend?
    I'm about that and ride an 18". Fits great!

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    I went with the 20" frame. I'm 6'2" with about a 30" inseam. I rode a 17.5" SE Stout prior to deciding to build the Jabberwocky. The Stout felt just a bit too small. I had to buy a 400mm setback seatpost to get the right saddle position. I could rip on it, but opted to go with the 20" frame for this build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    For someone 6' 32" inseam, which size would you recommend?
    6'1 with a 32" inseam, and I ride a 20" with a 90mm stem, and a zero offset Thomson post. Fits good, but I wish they made a 19" instead of the 20", and a 21" to replace the 20" Just my two cents,

    Other than that, love the bike!

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    $450?

    Were are you seeing frame and fork for $450? I have been looking for a few weeks now and the cheapest i see is $488 and that's for frame only!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bob View Post
    Were are you seeing frame and fork for $450? I have been looking for a few weeks now and the cheapest i see is $488 and that's for frame only!
    You missed the boat. Sale is over. About 4 weeks ago, they were on sale 20% off and then you can applied $80 coupon on top of the sale price. I think my jabber and Bander was $408 each. Awesome deal. My bro picked up a couple of Jabber too
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    Quote Originally Posted by snellvilleGAbiker View Post
    You missed the boat. Sale is over. About 4 weeks ago, they were on sale 20% off and then you can applied $80 coupon on top of the sale price. I think my jabber and Bander was $408 each. Awesome deal. My bro picked up a couple of Jabber too
    That's exactly what I did. The frame was $366 on sale, if I recall, and there was a $60 off coupon for orders over $300. The fork was $117. I bought some other stuff with it, and got $15 or $20 off.

    I've bought almost everything for it on sale, or using some sort of discount, and have cleared nearly $1500 now... And that is using a seatpost that I had, a saddle that I had, and brakes that I had. Of course I did go with a Chris King headset and bottom bracket that added a couple of hundred bucks that I could have possibly avoided, but I wanted the bling.

    This is going to be an expensive rig when I'm all done with it, but as my buddy said - "keep all receipts, just don't add them up!"
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    I got the frame on sle at huck&roll too. $306 shipped to my door. Halfway way done with the build. Will post pictures when done.

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    You guys gonna love this bike. Holy wow. It rides like a dream. My Bander still in the box due to my ACL surgery. Should be built up by March.
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