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    SS Full suspension

    Just built her up a while ago. Haven't settled on gearing yet so I'm still running the deraileurs, but they are fixed. Fun bike to ride.



    Specs:
    Large Homegrown URT frame
    Z4 Flylight fork
    LX cranks
    535 pedals
    Spox front wheel
    King/Bontrager ceramic rear
    Avid front V-brakes
    Tectro rear V-brakes
    Sram carbon V-levers
    Pizzaz carbon riser bar
    ATI Lock-on Rogue grips
    FSA headset
    Specialized Grond Control front tire
    Mythos rear tire.

    Currently has XT rear and front der.

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    Nice!!

    Cool to see another URT Single. Did you see mine below? Check out My double boinger single speed. Looks pretty familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliffjumper
    Cool to see another URT Single. Did you see mine below? Check out My double boinger single speed. Looks pretty familiar.
    Yeah, looks sweet, very similar. Now I need to get rid of the POS RS rear shock and get an air shock like yours.

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    shock

    I'm running the Fox Alps 5r I believe. I know that Cane Creek makes one compatible. I have a hard time deciding whether or not to spend the $$ to get a new shock with the bells and whistles-newer Fox, 5th, Manitou, etc. I do bet that your coil-over feels great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliffjumper
    I'm running the Fox Alps 5r I believe. I know that Cane Creek makes one compatible. I have a hard time deciding whether or not to spend the $$ to get a new shock with the bells and whistles-newer Fox, 5th, Manitou, etc. I do bet that your coil-over feels great.
    No, the Rock Shock rear shocks are utter crap. I've owned them before and pretty much anything is better. I just orderd a Cane Creek off eBay (AD4, not their best but it's cheap and anything is better than the RS).

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    The Alps5 is crap to. I cant believe how long I rode on one. The cane creek is worth it no doubt, or a newer fox. Or just a better coil shock.
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    36:18 fit great on my Homegrown with no tensioner.

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    still building mine...

    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/catss1.jpg">

    Also stuck in the RS shocks quandry...the sid XC only fit one way and I had to remove the thumb adjuster for the rebound to get it to even fit like that.I could run a coupe deluxe cause it has a matching red spring, but that weighs more and damn it, catamount frames are heavy enough.

    I wonder if that distributor of mine still has that float R left in stock...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/catss1.jpg">

    Also stuck in the RS shocks quandry...the sid XC only fit one way and I had to remove the thumb adjuster for the rebound to get it to even fit like that.I could run a coupe deluxe cause it has a matching red spring, but that weighs more and damn it, catamount frames are heavy enough.

    I wonder if that distributor of mine still has that float R left in stock...
    Cool setup. I'd always thought those Catamount's were nice looking, unfortunately I couldn't find any in 20" size. I'll bet a Float would be a LOT nicer than the SID...although the SID is probably better than my coil RS, but that's not saying much...

    FYI: I got a 5.5" Cane Creen AD-4 off of eBay for $30, I'd prefer a Cloud 9, but it's $30 so I can't complain. There was at least one other out there and 2 Stratos shocks. Do a search for "5.5" under shocks-other. The 5.5 will fit a Schwinn, not sure about the Catamount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjcarr
    No, the Rock Shock rear shocks are utter crap. I've owned them before and pretty much anything is better. I just orderd a Cane Creek off eBay (AD4, not their best but it's cheap and anything is better than the RS).
    I have been considering switching my Schwinn Factory Homegrown URT to SS. I dumped the stock RS Coupe Deluxe years ago for a Cane Creek Cloud Nine. Well worth the upgrade.

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    catamounts use a 6.5 eye to eye shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/catss1.jpg">
    You can do without the surly tensioner if you file the dropouts a bit, the Catamount frame has ample room to do that. Then you can get rid ot that dangly bit that is asking to get ripped off on a branch or rock - one of the main advantages of tensionerless SS's.

    This is what I did to get a tensionerless 38:16 ratio on the Catamount (Rohloff use):
    <img src="http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/516/234259Cat_dropout.jpg">
    If you file the slot the other way (towards the back) you can get ratios < 2:1 (41:21,38:20, 40:22, 32:18, 34:20, 36:22). I put a NOS fox float-R on it, but it's leaking air, and any RS coil is better than a leaky Fox....

    I've been keeping my eye out for a Shwinn sweetspot or a Klein Mantra (preferably with disc mounts) for a while now. but you don't see many around here. They make nice SS rigs.

    Cheers,

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    "ripped off by a..."

    whatever is such an overblown issue with rear derailleurs and tensioners. In 18 years of technical XC riding I've destroyed a total of ONE rear derailleur, and the stick that did it was about 2 inches in diameter. A short little single arm tensioner is SOOOOOOO not a worry to me about being removed from the bike. Its also not a surly tensioner btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    whatever is such an overblown issue with rear derailleurs and tensioners. In 18 years of technical XC riding I've destroyed a total of ONE rear derailleur, and the stick that did it was about 2 inches in diameter. A short little single arm tensioner is SOOOOOOO not a worry to me about being removed from the bike. Its also not a surly tensioner btw.
    Yea, I guess it depends on what you ride. Last year we destroyed about 8 deraileurs collectively ($$). The last year I 'used' a derailure, I broke 2 (but I didn't break a single derailleur the previous 2 years). Most were with sticks that were thinner than a finger. The rest were on rocks or stumps, and a few were ripped off on a skinny. We've also broken way too many hangers.

    I never liked the way my Surly tensioner packed with mud & straw.

    Plus I like the nice clean tensionerless lines.

    Cheers,

    Tom

    PS: I take it that's the Norco version? Or DMR? Still a Surly-copy.
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    replaceable hangers always struck me as a bad idea...

    since the part where they're attached is only half as thick as a solid hanger/dropout would be, and thus they usually bend right at that point. The stiffness of a structure is related to both the material type (steel or titanium is stiffer than aluminium) as well as the cross sectional size (a piece 2" in thickness would be 8 times as stiff as one 1" in thickness) with the second one being the bigger issue. This is one reason Al frames have larger diameter tubes than steel or ti frames. Al is about 1/3rd as stiff as steel and 2/3 as stiff as titanium, but you make the tubing bigger and you end up with a stiffer frame.

    Since Al hangers are usually around a quarter inch thick plate if solid (like on the catamount) and half that if replaceable, you're talking 1/8th the stiffness and resistance to bending in the replaceable hanger than in a solid hanger. The only hanger I've ever bent was on that frame with the derailleur i terminated, and it was a replaceable hanger.
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    replaceable hangers ARE a bad idea

    Don't get me started on replacable hangers, for the most part they just make everything weaker (although I'll admit some are better than others). They bend easily throwing your deraileur out of alignment, and are just strong enough to damage the dropout on the frame. Seen way too many older Davinci's with broken dropouts after the hanger broke...

    SC's replacable <i>dropout</i> is a nice idea though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsdoable
    Don't get me started on replacable hangers, for the most part they just make everything weaker (although I'll admit some are better than others). They bend easily throwing your deraileur out of alignment, and are just strong enough to damage the dropout on the frame. Seen way too many older Davinci's with broken dropouts after the hanger broke...

    SC's replacable <i>dropout</i> is a nice idea though.
    It really all depends on personal experience, as mine is the exact opposite. I had an original Heckler and snapped the non-replacable hanger off it, had to get the whole rear triangle redone. I've been riding with replacable hangers for a long time. Broken a few, bent a few, but the frame was always ok, and I always had a spare.

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