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    Short Headtube Trouble With SASS Frame

    Not just a SS issue but something I didn't anticipate........I bought a used 2004 SASS in the XL size and when I installed a fork I had previously cut to fit my XL Ventana frame I found that the steerer tube was @ 2" too long for the Bianchi frame.

    I need to add way too many spacers to bring the height of the handlebar up to a comfortable level until I buy a higher rise stem to help with this problem. Is there any other way to deal with this issue other than the extra spacers/riser stem "solution"?

    Thanks,

    Russ

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    You could throw a riser bar into the mix to cut down on the number of spacers needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot
    Not just a SS issue but something I didn't anticipate........I bought a used 2004 SASS in the XL size and when I installed a fork I had previously cut to fit my XL Ventana frame I found that the steerer tube was @ 2" too long for the Bianchi frame.

    I need to add way too many spacers to bring the height of the handlebar up to a comfortable level until I buy a higher rise stem to help with this problem. Is there any other way to deal with this issue other than the extra spacers/riser stem "solution"?

    Thanks,

    Russ
    Why are too many spacers a problem for you? Purely asthetics? There is no safety issue.
    The Bianchi XL frames are laughingly small.
    My suggestion is to sell it and buy a 1x1, or better yet, a Karate Monkey.

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    Gotta Come Clean....

    ......it is purely an asthetics issue with me, the extra spacers just look funny. I did add a 2" riser bar to help out.

    As for the frame size, the bike feels great to me now that I've added a set-back Thomson post and a 140mm stem to lenghten the cockpit a little and it handles the twisty single track quite nicely.

    I may look into another frame a bit later but right now I am enjoying my first SS love

    Russ

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    Am I getting too bulky?
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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot
    ...and a 140mm stem to lenghten the cockpit a little and it handles the twisty single track quite nicely.
    Yeah, like the Queen Mary 2!!! That's close to six inches of stem! That's like a friggin' rudder!!!

    Do you think I used enough exclamation points? orry, but after the newness wears off ...
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    I think Serotta makes a headtube extender... not sure if it's available for 1-1/8"

    Profile Design makes a 60mm (2.36") riser (Ultra FR).

    Thomson SM-E110 stem is 140mm/15degree...


    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot
    Not just a SS issue but something I didn't anticipate........I bought a used 2004 SASS in the XL size and when I installed a fork I had previously cut to fit my XL Ventana frame I found that the steerer tube was @ 2" too long for the Bianchi frame.

    I need to add way too many spacers to bring the height of the handlebar up to a comfortable level until I buy a higher rise stem to help with this problem. Is there any other way to deal with this issue other than the extra spacers/riser stem "solution"?

    Thanks,

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot
    ......it is purely an asthetics issue with me, the extra spacers just look funny. I did add a 2" riser bar to help out.

    As for the frame size, the bike feels great to me now that I've added a set-back Thomson post and a 140mm stem to lenghten the cockpit a little and it handles the twisty single track quite nicely.

    I may look into another frame a bit later but right now I am enjoying my first SS love

    Russ
    Cool Cool.
    But if you need 6" of stem AND a layback post....your frame is the wrong size...at least not the right one for you.
    My SiSS was my first SS love too...for 3 weeks until she broke...up with me...

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    Yeah, I'm a tough fit.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Cool Cool.
    But if you need 6" of stem AND a layback post....your frame is the wrong size...at least not the right one for you.
    My SiSS was my first SS love too...for 3 weeks until she broke...up with me...

    when it comes to frames. Although I am 6'3" my legs are a bit short and as my wife says, I have "acres of back" so I need a long top tube and I tend to need a 130mm or 140mm stem depending on the bike.

    My Pantera's TT is 24.7" and I run a 130 on it and the SASS needs more. So I am a prime candidate for a custom made frame, eh?

    Russ

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    24.7" TT and a 130mm stem. Wow. I'm 6'6" and I wouldn't run my bike that long.

    To each their own, but there is something to be said about a slightly more upright, centered riding position. (And I mean slightly - I'm not talking about a frickin' hybrid position).

    I definitely agree with raising the front end with a riser bar and stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrap
    24.7" TT and a 130mm stem. Wow. I'm 6'6" and I wouldn't run my bike that long.

    To each their own, but there is something to be said about a slightly more upright, centered riding position. (And I mean slightly - I'm not talking about a frickin' hybrid position).

    I definitely agree with raising the front end with a riser bar and stem.
    I guess I tend to gravitate towards a cross country type riding position and prefer to be more laid out, I really don't think that my bikes are all that long in the cockpit but maybe I'm wrong. I don't feel in danger of an endo on the steep decents so I guess I'm OK.

    Back to the original question, the riding position on the SASS was WAY too low at the bar, hence the need to raise the stem & bar and now you guys got me thinking I'm some kind of freak who needs a good LBS to fit me

    Thanks for the input,

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Cool Cool.
    But if you need 6" of stem AND a layback post....your frame is the wrong size...at least not the right one for you.
    My SiSS was my first SS love too...for 3 weeks until she broke...up with me...
    Something to consider is that a Thompson layback post has the same offset as a Kalin, Pyramid, Ritchey, etc post with an offset clamp (as most stock posts have)... remember its a layback, buts also zero offset.
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