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    Patrick Cycles 69er belt drive

    Finally got my bike built and ready to rock SSWC this weekend, I do have a few little things left to finish, Trim the steer tube and cap the brake cables

    Greg Gardner does amazing work

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    Here is a full spec list in case anybody cares

    Frame- Patrick Cycles 69er with S&S couplers and Black Cat swinger drop outs (Thanks to Todd Ingermanson of Black Cat Bikes)
    Fork- Walt Works Segmented with custom machined fork leg badges (My dad machined them for me)
    Headset- Crank Bro's Cobalt SL with a Purley Custom ultralight top cap and screw
    Spacers- Titanium ultralight (2/3 the weight of carbon spacers)
    Stem- Thomson X2 with Ti bolts and custom anodized
    H-Bar-Syntace DuraFlite flat bar
    Grips-ESI Chunky
    Bar ends- Windspeed with alloy bolt (46g ebay special) custom anodized
    Brake levers- KCNC VB-1 with teflon cables
    Housing- Nokon
    Seatpost- Thomson Masterpiece with Ti hardware custom anodized
    Seat clamp- Salsa liplock with Ti bolt
    Saddle-Phenom SL
    Crankset/BB- The Hive Fifteen G
    pedals- Crank Bro 2 Ti with Ward Titanium spindles
    Chainring- Gates Carbon Drive with Ti c-ring bolts
    H20 and flask cages- King Ti cages, Ahearne Stainless steel flask holder with alloy bolts
    Wheels- Industry Nine with Stans ZTR355's
    Skewers-DT Swiss RWS 9mm front thru bolt, 10mm rear thru bolt
    Brakes-Avid BB7's, Ceramic coated calipers, Full Ti bolt upgrade, replaced the stainless ball bearings inside with ceramic (just cause) rattle canned adjuster knobs (custom anodized adapters and washers)
    Rotors- Alligator windcutter 160mm TiNi coated with Ti rotor bolts
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    more pics

    here are some more pics of the build
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    where do you live? I need to come steal your bike.
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    rad. I'll look for ya in Durango

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    That's got all the option huh?

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    what size cogs are you running with the belt drive?


    bike looks sick man! love the flask mount. perfect for the sswc's!

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    right now I have a 50x25, its going to suck at SSWC, I never sent in an entry so I am going back with a buddy hoping we can get in the morning of the race, not 100% sure I will be racing. I have a 28t rear cog but this belt was just a tad short and the next size up is a tad too long, I may try to get a hold of a 46t ring for the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    I never sent in an entry so I am going back with a buddy hoping we can get in the morning of the race, not 100% sure I will be racing.
    No worries, everyone will get in. You'll be forced to grovel some first, though. Plus, I hope you like the color green.

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    Beautiful bike. What kind of barends are those?

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    Awesome build! Beautiful frame, custom anodized bits, belt drive - all put together with a lot of attention to detail, like the anodized BB spacers. Very sweet!

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    Oh great...
    Nice bike man.
    Now I have to do a lot more detail work on my bike. Thanks
    The brake calipers. What did you do to them?
    BB7's? did you pull them apart smooth them then paint or ano?
    beutifull bike. I like it and am very jealous.
    next time

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    That is a work of art.
    Please, take a pic of it broken down.
    Good luck at the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF-IDK
    Oh great...
    Nice bike man.
    Now I have to do a lot more detail work on my bike. Thanks
    The brake calipers. What did you do to them?
    BB7's? did you pull them apart smooth them then paint or ano?
    beutifull bike. I like it and am very jealous.

    The calipers are fully custom tuned BB7's, I pulled them apart, replaced all the hardware with Titanium bolts, I drilled a second hole for the end of the spring so it has a higher spring tension with out having to bottom out the spring tension adjustment bolt, I replaced the steel ball bearings with ceramic ball bearings, I had a fellow MTBE member crazy8 ceramic coat the caliper halfs and I rattle canned the red plastic pad adjusters bay blue.
    The caliper adapters and the concave mount washers anodized with the rest of my parts

    Thank you for all your kind words, this project started a year ago and my goal was a fully custom show quality bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    The calipers are fully custom tuned BB7's, I pulled them apart, replaced all the hardware with Titanium bolts, I drilled a second hole for the end of the spring so it has a higher spring tension with out having to bottom out the spring tension adjustment bolt, I replaced the steel ball bearings with ceramic ball bearings, I had a fellow MTBE member crazy8 ceramic coat the caliper halfs and I rattle canned the red plastic pad adjusters bay blue.
    The caliper adapters and the concave mount washers anodized with the rest of my parts

    Thank you for all your kind words, this project started a year ago and my goal was a fully custom show quality bike.
    I have to say I think it might be the best looking bike I've seen all year.

    I was thinking about painting my calipers but not going that crazy. good job
    next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo108
    Beautiful bike. What kind of barends are those?
    Windspeed bar ends
    they were and ebay special form Taiwan $12.99 plus shipping, they were 52g with the stock steel bolts and I replaced the steel bolts with alloy and they are 46g now. they feel great, about the size of a roll of quarters
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    BADASS!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2
    That's got all the option huh?
    the only thing the ended up not working out in the fabrication was the BB30 shell. I will have BB30 when I have a CX bike built
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
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    Amazing. You do owe me new retinas though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    Finally got my bike built and ready to rock SSWC this weekend, I do have a few little things left to finish, Trim the steer tube and cap the brake cables

    Greg gardner does amazing work

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    Whoa, those are some slim, sexy fork legs!
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    What a Freakin' Awesome build! Where can I get your shirt? It is great!
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    Sick bike Nate!

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    What is going on with those spokes?

    They sure are different!

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    nioce, enjoy the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beewee
    Sick bike Nate!
    Thanks Brian
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
    aluminium has a tendency to fail when you need it most. i.e. you end up with a bad day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    What a Freakin' Awesome build! Where can I get your shirt? It is great!
    I got the shirt with my fork form Walt Works in Colorado, www.waltworks.com
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    Nice bike, why is there a few inches of steerer tube sticking out above where the handlebar stem clamps on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hygieneboy
    Nice bike, why is there a few inches of steerer tube sticking out above where the handlebar stem clamps on?

    I had just built it and wasn't sure where I wanted them stem, I took it into the shop the next day and trimmed the steer tube and added a few mm's on top and capped it off

    and I do have a little baggy of orange zip ties, the black were all my builder had with him, the clips I was planning on using weren't large enough so I had to go with Zipties
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    Can you pop up a pic of those cranks? are those the Hive cranks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas
    Can you pop up a pic of those cranks? are those the Hive cranks?

    yep they are The Hive FifteenG cranks, since the BB30 didn't work out I wanted a stiff
    spindle

    they came out to 774g with the gates ring and Ti chainring bolts and all spacers
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    I like the bar ends!


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    Perhaps you've done extensive editing to your original post, but it's pretty amazing how many people have responded with questions asking for details you already provided.

    Ridiculous bike, though. Bet it's insanely light. Got a build weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2
    Perhaps you've done extensive editing to your original post, but it's pretty amazing how many people have responded with questions asking for details you already provided.

    Ridiculous bike, though. Bet it's insanely light. Got a build weight?
    well at 2nd glance the spec list was not there at first.
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    I think we need to delete this thread.
    I can't get any work done.
    I just keep stairing at the nice pics.

    j/k about closing the thread.
    next time

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    What do you fill the Flask with?

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    What about the belt drive?

    That's my curious bit on this bike. Please let us all know how it works out after you've ridden it a bit. It seems like a great idea, but I remember some posts after Interbike last year that said it slipped on occasion. Can't have that.

    Great looking steed. Ride it well!

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    What are those spokes?

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    scooter916 I agree with WTF-IDK we NEED to delete this post, my bike is starting to get jealous of all the attention I'm giving yours. I ordered one of those shirts, I should get it by this weekend. PM me and I'll get you one of mine that say, "Your Bike Sucks".
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    wow

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    Well man, i'm leaving for Vegas tommorrow, maybe ill see you there.

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    Wow lots of responses, Just got back from SSWC and Interbike, lots of people taking pictures at SSWC, so far I love the belt, no slipping but set up is ideal, if the wheel isn't perfectly straight the belt will want to wander off, but once it set up properly it is golden, I bought the tension gauge so I know I have it have it a perfect tension, too tight and lots of drag, not enough and it could possibly slip. I was running 2:1 at SSWC and it never slipped no matter how hard I was pushing.

    mattbryant: It weighs in a 21.6 lbs and I did go back and add the spec list after the first few questions

    handofmidas: It usually gets Crown Royal, but on occasion any type of rum or whisky

    Edo: Industry nine wheels, anodized alloy spokes
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    Damn...
    Thats all I got.

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    That's amazing man, so stoked you went with the 69'r too, love it!

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    Nice bike! Love those dropouts.

    Where are you getting your custom anodizing done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev0153
    Nice bike! Love those dropouts.

    Where are you getting your custom anodizing done?
    My aunt owns a CNC shop and i was planning on going through their normal vendor but they only do hard coat in grey black and silver. I ended up finding a shop up the street from there shop that used to do anodizing for Kooka and FOX suspension parts.

    I had over 70 pieces done to keep the cost reasonable it was about $200 to clean/strip/sort and anodize. If everything was brand new and clean and I new every type of alloy (7071, 7005, 6061 etc) it would be cheaper.

    most anodizers will do a lot charge so with my parts it was same cost for 70+ as it would have been for 10 parts

    I had several seat posts and stems done and am selling them to cover the cost of anodizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxman2001
    where do you live? I need to come steal your bike.
    HAHAHAHA.

    Really nice bike! I was curious how you would put the belt drive on.

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    +1

    +1 agree with other post, it turned out great Scooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy8
    +1 agree with other post, it turned out great Scooter.

    Thank You again for the ceramic coating on the calipers, they came out great.
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
    aluminium has a tendency to fail when you need it most. i.e. you end up with a bad day.

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    How do you like your brake setup?

    Wow, stunning build. Its obvious you put a lot of thought into each part and didn't just go expensive to be expensive.

    I was thinking about your exact same brake setup on a new steel bike and was wondering how all the parts work together? You happy with the performance so far?

    Cheers!
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    A lot is going on there... very nice and some great details.
    Well done.
    Is this a standard Walt fork with these blades ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mljester
    Wow, stunning build. Its obvious you put a lot of thought into each part and didn't just go expensive to be expensive.

    I was thinking about your exact same brake setup on a new steel bike and was wondering how all the parts work together? You happy with the performance so far?

    Cheers!
    I am loving the bike so far, the Belt is amazing, no noise and no slipping.

    As far as the brakes, I love BB7's and have them on 3 bikes with no issues. my current set up is nice, the KCNC levers are much smaller than I thought they would be, not super small but still small and short. I have Kooka Racha levers on another bike so I am used to small levers. The KCNC are half the weight of the Kooka. Extralite levers are a tad longer and have a return spring.

    Good housing is a night and day difference with BB7's

    I would suggest NOT using teflon coated cables with Nokon, the Nokon liner is super smooth and the teflon has flaked off inside causing some drag but a quick blast with the compressor and it was cleared out.

    The alligator rotors with stock semi metallic pads are working great with good power. I did modify the caliper when they were disassembled, I drilled another hole for the arm spring so it had greater return to overcome the lack of the lever return spring
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy
    A lot is going on there... very nice and some great details.
    Well done.
    Is this a standard Walt fork with these blades ?
    it's a standard fork with the clover badges added after I bought the fork form Walt.
    I had my bike built around a 50mm travel fork and had Walt match the axle to crown and rake. he choose the tapered legs since I wanted a smoother ride, I was expecting straight legs like a few of my buddies have but am still happy with the taper, they look sketchy but ride great.

    walt had also forgot to braze the hydro guides on when he shipped me the fork so I had my builder add them before they were sent to paint and got them right where I wanted them for behind the crown routing. it looks so much cleaner and doesn't rub the headtube
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
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    Sweet ride. One of the best on this site. Great work and attention to detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    yep they are The Hive FifteenG cranks, since the BB30 didn't work out I wanted a stiff
    spindle

    they came out to 774g with the gates ring and Ti chainring bolts and all spacers
    What cranks would you have used if you got the BB30 bottom bracket? I'm looking to build up a Gates Carbon Drive and am considering the BB30 option. I haven't been able to determine what cranks I can use with this combo. Otherwise, I think I'll end up with The Hive FifteenG cranks and a standard sized BB as well.

    Did you consider any other cranks for the standard sized BB? I can't make up my mind on this front either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Smith
    What cranks would you have used if you got the BB30 bottom bracket? I'm looking to build up a Gates Carbon Drive and am considering the BB30 option. I haven't been able to determine what cranks I can use with this combo. Otherwise, I think I'll end up with The Hive FifteenG cranks and a standard sized BB as well.

    Did you consider any other cranks for the standard sized BB? I can't make up my mind on this front either.
    I had purchased a set of ExtraLite E-Bones BB30, 498g for arms and BB with out rings, but was disappointed the spindle was still 22mm, it just used adapter cups to fit a BB30 frame.
    I had also considered the Cannondale Hollowgram SL's, I don't have a connection with C-dale so retail was going to be rough (about a grand)

    I had sent a few emails back and forth with Charlie at The Hive about trying to score a custom prototype BB30 crank for my bike but it never really worked out (to both our dissapointment) so when it came time to ditch the BB30 in order to get my bike by SSWC I had considered XTR but the fact that Charlie went out of his way to answer any questions (email back and forth at 11pm about work related stuff) I had and the fact they are a local Nor-Cal company making good stuff by good people it was an easy choice.

    the super stiff 30mm spindle is also very nice and it was only a 58g weight difference between them and XTR.
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    Beautiful bike - stunning workmanship and attention to detail.

    Just one little question - why did you fit the stem upside down (I mean, with negative rise) and then use a stack of spacers to increase the bar height again? Or is it a style thing?
    I'm just being idly curious, that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy R
    Beautiful bike - stunning workmanship and attention to detail.

    Just one little question - why did you fit the stem upside down (I mean, with negative rise) and then use a stack of spacers to increase the bar height again? Or is it a style thing?
    I'm just being idly curious, that's all

    I have actually flipped back to positive rise, I run negative for racing to get lower. part of it is looks I like the look of a negative stem. I try to keep a constant saddle to bar drop across all my bikes
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
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    I feel dumb, but why do you have a breakable top tube?

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    travel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenkins@
    I feel dumb, but why do you have a breakable top tube?
    there is also a coupler on the down tube. it allows me to box it up in a clamshell hard case that is 26x26x10" that is under the FAA regulated luggage so I can skip the $150 each way oversize luggage fee

    perfect for traveling with my bike
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    aluminium has a tendency to fail when you need it most. i.e. you end up with a bad day.

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    In regards to the ridicuously crazy cool BB7 calipers.

    Thos bb7's are handsdown, the COOLEST thing since sliced bread (cant remember how the saying goes ) Are they powdercoated or rattle canned?

    I must know, now excuse as i embark on my internet search on how to thoroughly disassemble BB7s

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    Quote Originally Posted by John's Smith
    Thos bb7's are handsdown, the COOLEST thing since sliced bread (cant remember how the saying goes ) Are they powdercoated or rattle canned?

    I must know, now excuse as i embark on my internet search on how to thoroughly disassemble BB7s

    mentioned earlier that I had the professionally ceramic coated by a fellow MTBR member Crazy8, I'm sure if you shoot him a PM he may do your for you, but wants them disassembled before you ship. other colors are available. can't remember but somewhere around $30-35 a caliper but he will give you the proper estimate

    http://ceramikoat.com/


    what year BB7 do you have? the current year are very easy to pull apart, just need a 5mm allen and an 11mm box wrench or adjustable wrench. the older model require some other tools.
    Quote Originally Posted by thefuzzbl
    aluminium has a tendency to fail when you need it most. i.e. you end up with a bad day.

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    i just recieved my set 2009 set from pricepoint

    i might get started on this project this weekend

    definitley made the to do list

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