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    Ok To Use Ultegra 10 Spd Chain On SS?

    Am I gonna run into any problems running a Shimano CN-6700 10 spd chain on my SS?

    Running 32t Salsa ring and 22t Surly Cog.

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    I wouldn't use that chain. You will probably stretch and break that chain. I also think those rings are supposed to be used with an 8 or 9 spd chain. I personally use only 8spd chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcufari View Post
    I wouldn't use that chain. You will probably stretch and break that chain. I also think those rings are supposed to be used with an 8 or 9 spd chain. I personally use only 8spd chains.
    Curious... why do you think the 10-spd chain will break?

    My only concern would be whether the chain will be wide enough to fit on the sprockets. I can't say for sure, but I have my doubts.

    I employ 8-spd chains on my SS as well. But I don't believe an 8-spd chain is any stronger than a 10-spd chain (which I use on my 2x10 FS sled).

    OP, post up to let us know how it works, if you do it.

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    My understanding is that 8, 9 & 10 speed chains all have the same inner chain dimensions.....that they are narrower due to thinner plates.


    I usually use a SRAM PC-890 8 spd chain. Needs to be replaced, and realized I have an Ultegra chain that I will probably never use otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    My understanding is that 8, 9 & 10 speed chains all have the same inner chain dimensions.....that they are narrower due to thinner plates.


    I usually use a SRAM PC-890 8 spd chain. Needs to be replaced, and realized I have an Ultegra chain that I will probably never use otherwise.
    8 and 9 speed chains are the same inner spacing, with 9 speed chains using thinner plates. 10 speed chains do not have thinner plates than 9 speed, but rather they have much tighter tolerances which makes them have narrower inner spacing. A 10 speed chain is likely to have issues with the Surly cog but if it did work it is plenty strong and likely stronger than a 9 speed chain due to the tighter tolerances.
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    Hmmm, I may have been mistaken. I ran a 9spd chain once and it broke fairly quickly but it may have been an anomaly or I am just to strong. Ha. I would still spend the $15 and get a new 8spd chain.

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    I've used a Dura Ace chain in the past with zero issues. However, forking out $40 for a chain wasn't too pleasant. But I was in need and for some reason, the lame shop only had the DA available. It didn't work any better than my $12 SRAM 850 chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    I've used a Dura Ace chain in the past with zero issues. However, forking out $40 for a chain wasn't too pleasant. But I was in need and for some reason, the lame shop only had the DA available. It didn't work any better than my $12 SRAM 850 chains.
    I agree......wouldn't pay for the Ultegra....was given to me.

    Since free is good and the chain is brand new, figured I would use it if it worked.
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    I wouldn't even bother, Just use a normal 8 speed chain for a fraction of the price. From experience with geared drivetrains, I've found 8 speed stuff to actually last longer than 9 and 10 speed stuff.

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    I use my half life xt and ultegra chains on my single speed. Basically as the shifty bikes chain starts to wear I replace it and cut the used chain down to run on my ss.

    Keeps the shifty bike fresh, like others have said, for the most part ss bikes really dont care what kind of chain you feed them.
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    that's a low gear ratio, so maybe? try it, report back. same chain width. for SS chains, I assume 8>9>10.

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    Well it works......after 2 rides, and 45 miles/7000' of climbing it has not been a problem.

    Will keep running it for the time being.
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    Cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    Well it works......after 2 rides, and 45 miles/7000' of climbing it has not been a problem.

    Will keep running it for the time being.
    Good to know. Thanks for posting. I know it wouldn't work with a Surly stainless steel ring, so I guess you're using something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Good to know. Thanks for posting. I know it wouldn't work with a Surly stainless steel ring, so I guess you're using something else.

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    Yup just the normal Salsa Al SS ring and Surly SS cog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Good to know. Thanks for posting. I know it wouldn't work with a Surly stainless steel ring, so I guess you're using something else.

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    Your cog and ring are most likely 1/8, you can get the surely cogs in either 3/32 or 1/8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblvanos View Post
    Your cog and ring are most likely 1/8, you can get the surely cogs in either 3/32 or 1/8.
    From Surly's website:
    Our 94bcd,104bcd and 110bcd x 34/35/36t chainrings are made with a 2.2-2.3mm thick stock plate and work best with 5-8 speed chains. Many folks are using these on 9 speed drivetrains but this can often results in a "tight fit" right out of the box (This will loosen up and shifting should improve after the chain breaks in). The 110bcd 38-50t and all 130bcd chainrings are machine finished to have a 2.1mm tooth thickness and thus work fine with 9spd chains.
    Surly's rings won't work with 10-spd chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    From Surly's website:

    Surly's rings won't work with 10-spd chains.

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    Except I was running a Salsa Ring with a 3/32" Surly Cog.


    Anyway, my enthusiasm was a bit premature.....3rd ride out developed a horrendous creaking and grinding. Almost sounded like the frame was cracked or the dropouts were loose(checked both and they were good). Under light pedaling it was ok. Under heavy load the drivetrain sounded like it was going to explode.

    Swapped out the old 8 speed chain and it was back to normal.

    Now I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    Except I was running a Salsa Ring with a 3/32" Surly Cog. ...
    I know you said that. But dblvanos said Surly; I was correcting him.

    Sorry to hear about your poor experience with the 10-spd chain. As you say, now you know... as do we all.

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