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    new bike here (not SS)

    The Coiler arrived today!
    Took a few picks before I removed all of the "Not shiggy Approved" parts.
    Should gave all the parts I need next week and hope to have the stem ready by then, too.
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    New Track Bike??/

    I noticed no brakes. Just kidding....avids right?!

    Looks like just the bike for the Vision Quest.
    Looks like you'll be having lots of fun.
    Looks like you'll be having lots of air.
    Looks great!

    enjoy the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy aka Rut
    I noticed no brakes. Just kidding....avids right?!
    Yup. Waiting for the "road" versions I ordered and 203/185 Galfer rotors.
    Looks like just the bike for the Vision Quest.
    Only if you tow me up the climbs!
    Looks like you'll be having lots of fun.
    Looks like you'll be having lots of air.
    You got that right! - though "lots of air" is a relative thing.
    Looks great!

    enjoy the ride!

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    Thanks. See you in a couple of weeks.
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    cool, this should be interesting.
    Sorry if I'm not following along but I'm assuming you're going with drops?
    How about that fork? Full on DH bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    cool, this should be interesting.
    Sorry if I'm not following along but I'm assuming you're going with drops?
    How about that fork? Full on DH bike?
    Drops, yes.
    Fork is a Marzocchi 66 VF. The Coiler is a 6"x 6" "freeride" bike that can be pedaled. A buddy at Kona declared the Dee Lux "Whistler ready".
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    drop bars

    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Drops, yes.
    Are they really "drops" when the stem is up at nosebleed level?

    Just wonderin'. I guess they drop from where they intersect the stem.

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    What're your shifter options when using dirt drop bars, shiggy?

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    Yes [nm]
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    Shimano STI, Campy Ergo, bar end, Kelly takeoff. Maybe a few others.

    I am using Ultegra STI.
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    New question here. SS content???

    Hey Bender, the FR boards are that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    Hey Bender, the FR boards are that way
    The SS content:
    It has no crankset or chain on it right now so it only has a 24" gear (2 feet).
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    I would beg, plead, for at least H-bars on that sweet pony!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    I would beg, plead, for at least H-bars on that sweet pony!
    Nope. I tried the HBars. Liked them for the flats and climbs. Not as good as drops on the downs and twisties.
    Dropbars are for riding drops, right?
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    How about the Paul Thumbies for drop bars with bar-cons instead of STi? I've considered a set with Runkel levers on my Cx bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endure26
    How about the Paul Thumbies for drop bars with bar-cons instead of STi? I've considered a set with Runkel levers on my Cx bike.
    Would not work for me. I spend most my time riding in the drops. Reaching to the tops to shift would not cut it. I would just use bar end shifters like I did for years or try the Kelly Take Off

    and run with the lever down.

    I like the STI levers.
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    This really has no place on this board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aosty
    This really has no place on this board.
    You should report it to the moderator.
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    Sweet ride!

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    hucka!

    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    "Not shiggy Approved" parts
    I can't wait to see this thing.

    Will it be the first squishy hucker bike with drops and STI's? Maybe Kona will come out with a SHIG DEE-LUX next year.

    b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bones
    I can't wait to see this thing.

    Will it be the first squishy hucker bike with drops and STI's? Maybe Kona will come out with a SHIG DEE-LUX next year.

    b.
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    Don't leave us hanging.
    Give us the update pics!

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    neat!

    that things awesome! All geared up n stuff. While we're at it, here are some pics of my old Jekyll. Man that thing was sweet. 9 cogs of pure bliss, trigger shifters and a killer XTR derailleur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    that things awesome! All geared up n stuff. While we're at it, here are some pics of my old Jekyll. Man that thing was sweet. 9 cogs of pure bliss, trigger shifters and a killer XTR derailleur.
    oooo...listen to you all tough and stuff....
    okay then...here's mine...(was mine)
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    I gots me one too:-)

    I can't wait to see the bike shiggy....I for one love the idea!
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    This is considered a guilty pleasure now, isn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    You should report it to the moderator.
    I'm telling.


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    Post the Lenz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Post the Lenz!
    As you wish...
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    Damn boyz... this is a full-on hijack!

    Nice rides!

    Are there any other SSer's that will admit to riding a gearie full-boinger?

    Come on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Don't leave us hanging.
    Give us the update pics!
    Update:
    Not much has changed except the location. The "fence" in front of my house. Just a few minutes ago UPS dropped off the new BB. Still have a week or so before the rear of the parts arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Update:
    Not much has changed except the location. The "fence" in front of my house. Just a few minutes ago UPS dropped off the new BB. Still have a week or so before the rear of the parts arrive.
    Cool. Does your 66 have the lockdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Cool. Does your 66 have the lockdown?
    Nope. I may use a ziptie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Nope. I may use a ziptie.
    I was thinking you might not even need it since you are using drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    I was thinking you might not even need it since you are using drops.
    I may not. I rarely use the ECC lock down on my Chester's XFly (SS content!)

    It could be nice because of the Coiler's 66-degree(!!!) head angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Update: Just a few minutes ago UPS dropped off the new BB.
    What kinda crank are you putting on that bad girl?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Ohhhh Myyyyyy Gggaaawwwwwwwddddd

    You guy's are OUTTAAAAA CONTROL!!!!!

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    Bah!

    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    Are there any other SSer's that will admit to riding a gearie full-boinger?

    Come on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    What kinda crank are you putting on that bad girl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Profile Racing 182 arms w/ 110 spider, Threshold bash ring/36/24, FSA X-Drive BB, Profile spindle
    That is going to be THE set-up, eh? Can't wait to see the full production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    That is going to be THE set-up, eh? Can't wait to see the full production.

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    Well, A few other things, too
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    Well, you should really enjoy this a lot!

    I, for one, like to switch things up a little too.

    Now I feel dirty. Look away.

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    We'll all burn in he||

    It's just for looks. Honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    It's just for looks. Honest.
    Quick! Somebody get that man a 29er!!!

    Hey Sparty, do you run a 32t ring on that?

    Also, I know that the Puff was easier on your gears...but was your body ready for that kind of mileage on gears?
    I've never ridden further than 30 aboard gears...I'm a little afraid that some muscles might not be ready for it....
    Hmmmm...thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    It's just for looks. Honest.
    So how does the Cake ride? Do you think they'll 29er' her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    So how does the Cake ride? Do you think they'll 29er' her?

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    I like the travel and fit but the back end seems just a tad disjointed. I got this because I busted my good ol' Sugar 1 (veteran of two Cream Puffs) and I wanted something that offered more travel, could accommodate a 2.5" rear tire, had the ground clearance for 195mm cranks and was relatively light. She weighs 28 lbs in the photo.

    I dunno about the 29" Cake... I like the idea but until somebody offers some really good 29" FR/DH tires I wonder if the Cake will stay stuck with little wheels.

    I'd love a Rig. Sure as heck don't need yet another bike but I'd love one anyway. I think 29" wheels are the way to go, especially for taller riders.


    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Quick! Somebody get that man a 29er!!!

    Hey Sparty, do you run a 32t ring on that?

    Also, I know that the Puff was easier on your gears...but was your body ready for that kind of mileage on gears?
    I've never ridden further than 30 aboard gears...I'm a little afraid that some muscles might not be ready for it....
    Hmmmm...thoughts?
    I've got a 'standard' spider so the smallest stock ring I can run is a 34t. I had a couple custom 33t SS rings made but they require a 1/8" chain and I refuse to convert the Cake to SS. She's a 7-speed (32-11) and that's the way I like her.

    Without implying the 'Puff was ever easy, it was much easier for me with gears than it was on a single. My (Masters winning) time in '01 on my Sugar (also a 7-speed) was 11:17. The following year I contested the 'Puff in comparable physical condition aboard my Vulture SS and turned in a time about 2.5 HOURS slower. I must confess that I wonder if being 48 years old had something to do with it. I admit to believing that endurance sports get a bit more challenging as we get older, and that being on a singlespeed only compounds that challenge.

    In saying this I don't mean to imply that I think riding a singlespeed is any hindrance whatsoever to for typical riding. My Vulture is nearly always my first choice for any ride. But for 100 mile off-road races with 18,000' vertical gain...

    I don't ever plan to ride a mountain bike with multiple chainrings again, but I do enjoy having 7 or 8 gears, especially if the bike weighs over 25 lbs and has dual suspension (which motivates me to stay in the saddle a bit more than when riding a rigid frame). I like being able to shift down if I'm spending much of my time in the saddle. That said, the Cake feels very efficient for a bike that offers 5" of rear travel and 6" of fork travel.

    I doubt I'll enter the Cream Puff again. Three finisher's caps seems like plenty, especially for a feller on the wrong side of the half-century mark. How many times does it take before a guy gets it and finally says "Enough is enough!"? I guess I might be there, okay.

    But you? Have at 'er, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    I dunno about the 29" Cake... I like the idea but until somebody offers some really good 29" FR/DH tires I wonder if the Cake will stay stuck with little wheels.
    Good point, although it would be neat. I loved the way my Sugar rode, but the frame broke repeatedly which left a bit to be desired. The Heckler has fixed the frame breaking issue, but I'll be damned if I can get more than three rides out of that rear shock. I think Santa Cruz has sent me four or five Progressive Air replacements. Oh well, it gets me out on my SS and allows me to tinker on my bikes, so I really can't complain. I have always been intrigued by the Cake, but simply have too many bikes.

    Are those Kooka cranks? Sweet nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    ...I'll be damned if I can get more than three rides out of that rear shock. I think Santa Cruz has sent me four or five Progressive Air replacements.
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    This isn't the first time I've heard about trouble with Progressive air shocks, not by a long shot. I know of three riding buddies who've been plagued with Progressive shock failures. As for the Sugar breaking, I understand that Sugar/Fuel frame failures are rather common as well. I feel lucky to have gotten three hard years out of mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    ...[I] simply have too many bikes.
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    I know, I know. What's an addict to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    Are those Kooka cranks? Sweet nonetheless.
    (ff)
    Those are Caramba Double Barrels. They're the only production square taper cranks I know of that were offered in 195mm length. I bought two pair as soon as they hit the market (~1995?). Sadly they weren't available for very long.

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    Hate to turn this into a Squishy Forum...........

    Quote Originally Posted by firefox
    Good point, although it would be neat. I loved the way my Sugar rode, but the frame broke repeatedly which left a bit to be desired. The Heckler has fixed the frame breaking issue, but I'll be damned if I can get more than three rides out of that rear shock. I think Santa Cruz has sent me four or five Progressive Air replacements. Oh well, it gets me out on my SS and allows me to tinker on my bikes, so I really can't complain. I have always been intrigued by the Cake, but simply have too many bikes.

    Are those Kooka cranks? Sweet nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    I don't ever plan to ride a mountain bike with multiple chainrings again
    Nice looking bike sparty.

    Do you have the front derailleur on there to keep the chain from jumping off? Are you running unramped rings in the front?

    I am thinking of doing a similar conversion to my geared bike, and I am curious if there are any potential pitfalls.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    Firefox - Step up to an RP3!!!
    All of your problems will then be solved
    I would love to. Just need to find a way to make it a cheap swap.

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    Gears and springs

    Not a big hit bike, but at least it has a 100mm coil sprung fork, oh yeah and 24 speeds (20/32 low).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    I don't ever plan to ride a mountain bike with multiple chainrings again
    Nice looking bike sparty.

    Do you have the front derailleur on there to keep the chain from jumping off? Are you running unramped rings in the front?

    I am thinking of doing a similar conversion to my geared bike, and I am curious if there are any potential pitfalls.

    Cheers,

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