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    Karate Monkey Ops

    Anyone have info and/or pics?

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    FLAGGED: NOT SS!
    I think the "Ops" series means "with vertical drops", YAWN (just kidding, I like both)
    Nice specs for a Surly though.

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    It's got the same dropouts as the new Instigator, they are modular, so you can do horizontal if you want.
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    Bummer!!! I was hoping/assumed it would be a SS with a nicer spec.

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    As far as I'm aware, this is part of an update to the KM frame. As mentioned above, it uses modular dropouts. I'm quite excited to see this, because it has a set of track dropouts and that spray tan finish is pimp. And since I'm looking to buy a KM anyway.....

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    as discussed elsewhere the MDS will allow a quick and easy belt drive mod as well. yet another bonus.
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    Does anyone actually have their hands on one of these yet? Or seen a review?

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    I heard they wont be available till late May/early June
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    Karate Monkey Ops

    The UK distributor is showing availability... any updates? Would be nice to see some more photos...

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    I happen to be looking for an old 22" KM frame, because I can swap everything from my current (broken) frame on to it. There aren't any to be had because of this change over. In my looking, several shops (in the US) have claimed availability for smaller frame sizes is coming up pretty quick, but the 22" is still showing availability in September.

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    it's not a "change over" but rather an "addition". the current frame will still be available once the ops start shipping.
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    I'm seeing the non-MDS frame as discontinued in size XL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryJerry View Post
    I'm seeing the non-MDS frame as discontinued in size XL...
    Seriously? What do you see on the MDS frame for availability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryJerry
    I'm seeing the non-MDS frame as discontinued in size XL...
    you're right, jerry.

    my apologies for any confusion, i was basing my info on previous info from surly.

    apparently there was a miscommunication when i previously spoke to surly regarding this issue, as they indicated both frames would be available after the MDS version was introduced. hence my statement regarding availability of both.

    however, i just spoke with bob this morning and he confirmed the "old" frame will be discontinued and replaced with the MDS version.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus
    What do you see on the MDS frame for availability?
    as of 1:09 pm cst QBP shows availability date of 6-15-14 for the MDS monkey in XL.
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    Wow, that's much earlier than I was originally told, they were talking mid september.

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    I got to play with one at surlys dealer show and it is insane. The orange is way cooler in person then it is in pictures. The MDS just gives you a few more options without having to mess with chain tensioners or other stuff like that. I ordered one on the spot. Looks like June or July. It will be worth the wait.

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    Anyone seen the black version or know what on earth their "stretchpants black" is? Is it a glossy black like the Ogre's "blacktacular", or something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridefat1981 View Post
    I got to play with one at surlys dealer show and it is insane. The orange is way cooler in person then it is in pictures. The MDS just gives you a few more options without having to mess with chain tensioners or other stuff like that. I ordered one on the spot. Looks like June or July. It will be worth the wait.
    If you don't mind my asking, how did the price on that compare to the regular KM? I know it's gone up, I just don't know how much.

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    The black is pretty much a gloss black, like every other black surly has done. I think the price went up like 150-200 on the frame. I have looked but I honestly don't remember.
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    Hmm. That starts to put the price of the KM up there with a lot of other frames. At it's price point it used to be a super good deal. Now it's just another good frame.

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    475 vs 635
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    I got my Karate Monkey MDS frameset a few weeks ago and built it up singlespeed for now.

    Just wanted to have a look at the two other MDS chips and fixed them at the frame.
    I was SHOCKED about the resulting chainstay length:
    Standard QR -> 450 mm
    thru-axle -> 440 mm

    No short 431 mm chainstays any more! :-(((

    Surly writes on their website at Karate Monkey MDS:

    "It uses the same nimble geometry that made the Karate Monkey famous."

    Sorry, Surly - thats defintily WRONG!
    450/440 mm is NOT nimble.

    I'm really disappointed about this :-(

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    Karate Monkey Ops

    Quote Originally Posted by DerBergschreck View Post
    I got my Karate Monkey MDS frameset a few weeks ago and built it up singlespeed for now.

    Just wanted to have a look at the two other MDS chips and fixed them at the frame.
    I was SHOCKED about the resulting chainstay length:
    Standard QR -> 450 mm
    thru-axle -> 440 mm

    No short 431 mm chainstays any more! :-(((

    Surly writes on their website at Karate Monkey MDS:

    "It uses the same nimble geometry that made the Karate Monkey famous."

    Sorry, Surly - thats defintily WRONG!
    450/440 mm is NOT nimble.

    I'm really disappointed about this :-(
    Would the Krampus OPS have the same issue? Seems like a bad move.

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    Aren't the "monkey nuts" supposed to put the axle in the optimal position for rear shifting? I'd assume that with those installed you'd end up at 440-450 anyway.

    What is the shortest you can go with the SS chip?
    Yeah I only carry cans cause I'm a weight weenie.

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