Forward Components EBB Help

[tenacean]

Ok...I'm a newbie to single speed...be patient...

I tried to figure out what this product was from their website and threads here...and I don't understand how it functions...can someone patiently explain what its purpose and advantage is within a single speed mtb drivetrain compared to other options??

I'm building up a Surly Cross Check frameset into a single speed and any way not to use a chain tensioner would be great...

Thanks!!

[allroy71]

I have a CC. You don't need a chain tensioner. The dropout allows for movement of the wheel. What you do need is a good enclosed cam quick release, bolt on or RWS skewer, to hold the wheel from being pulled forward.

[tenacean]

Thank you...I know it's basic but that info. helps...now my question is this...

The forward component EBB will still help right? Because I won't need a special hub for my rear wheel?

Will I need a special cog for the rear or just a standard cog with the forward component EBB?

thanks

[jtrops]

Thank you...I know it's basic but that info. helps...now my question is this...

The forward component EBB will still help right? Because I won't need a special hub for my rear wheel?

Will I need a special cog for the rear or just a standard cog with the forward component EBB?

thanks

The Forward Components EBB is for frames with veritcal dropouts. The Cross Check has horizontal dropouts, and so no chain tensioning device is necessary. You will get no great benefit from using it. Single speed is about simplicity, and adding extra parts that are unnecessary is self defeating.

With your dropouts you won't need to get a special hub. As was pointed out you will want a good QR skewer for your wheel, but they are easy to come by. What you don't want is a Ringle style external cam QR. Bolt on is alright too, but you probably have a QR wheel, so I'd just spend a few dollars for a good QR, and be done with it. Even an average Shimano skewer is more than adequate.

[allroy71]

An EBB is not needed on a horizontal dropout frame.

As far as cog, whatever you got should work. Freewheel, fixed cog or freehub with spacers. You only need a special hub like the ENO, if you don't have an EBB, sliding type dropouts, track or horizontal drop out.

The SS forum has a FAQ. Look at upper right corner of this page.

[Sparticus]

From what I've heard for about the past year or so, whether you want an FC EBB or not -- (no, you certainly don't need one with your frame) -- is moot.

There are currently no FC EBBs to be had.

--sParty

[Stevob]

touché

[tenacean]

Great info...thanks everyone for the beginner info....helps more than you know...this is one case where I wish I knew someone that I could just sit and talk with...but...this is why we have forums...ok...next question...

I know 'Jtrops' stated that 'I don't need a special hub'...but...just to be sure...

If I'm going single speed on the CC...(and I'm using a secure skewer)...the rear hub doesn't have to be a single speed specific hub? or does it?

Also, Is there an advantage to using a flip flop hub?

[jtrops]

Great info...thanks everyone for the beginner info....helps more than you know...this is one case where I wish I knew someone that I could just sit and talk with...but...this is why we have forums...ok...next question...

I know 'Jtrops' stated that 'I don't need a special hub'...but...just to be sure...

If I'm going single speed on the CC...(and I'm using a secure skewer)...the rear hub doesn't have to be a single speed specific hub? or does it?

Also, Is there an advantage to using a flip flop hub?

The easiest way to convert is to use a single speed cog, like a BMX cog on a standard freehub body with spacers to adjust chainline. Using a single speed hub simplifies the rear end, but it can make dialing in the chainline a bit more tedious. A flip flop hub allows you to have a couple different freewheels with different gears, but you can't run a disc brake. With a standard freehub body you can set it up as a dingle to get a similar advantage.

I have both a freehub conversion, and a single speed hub. If I was building a new wheel at this point I would probably go for the conversion. It's much easier to dial in the chainline. The cogs are cheaper than freewheels, so it's not a big deal to play around with the gearing. While the SS hub has wider flanges with symmetrical dish, and therefore a stronger build, standard rear wheels tend to be more than strong enough.