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    Ellsworth Sub 22 advice

    I'm considering buying an old Ellsworth 22 to convert to SS as an upgrade from my Voodoo Wanga

    Does anyone have any experience of these. as far as I can see from the limited picture on the web it appears to have a horizontal dropout. Would tug nuts be the way to go?

    I need to be able to remove both wheels to get it into my car.

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

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    if you need to remove both wheels every time you load the bike in the car, you'll want a frame with sliding dropouts like these:







    that way, you don't have to mess with chain tension and brake alignment (if you have discs) every time you load/unload the bike.

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    Or an EBB. Or a tensioner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keene1 View Post
    I'm considering buying an old Ellsworth 22 to convert to SS as an upgrade from my Voodoo Wanga

    Does anyone have any experience of these. as far as I can see from the limited picture on the web it appears to have a horizontal dropout. Would tug nuts be the way to go?

    I need to be able to remove both wheels to get it into my car.

    Any advice would be gratefully received.
    I owned an Ellsworth Sub 22 several years ago. I sold it after my daughter was born because I assumed I was done with MTBing. Of all the bikes I've owned (not that its been that many) I think I miss that Ellsworth the most.

    IMHO it was a nice frame. It built up pretty light as a 1x8 and wasn't nearly as harsh a ride as the Gary Fisher or Cannondale I rode before it. Having said that... I wasn't aware that Ellsworth ever produced a Sub 22 with Horizontal dropouts. I'm not claiming to be the "oracle" on everything Ellsworth but it might be a good idea to double check the authenticity of the frame you are considering before you buy it. There are guys on these boards with a ton more industry knowledge than me so maybe someone can set the record straight. I just know from a personal perspective the LAST thing I'd want to do is spend my hard earned $$$ on fake/knock-off parts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S View Post
    Or an EBB. Or a tensioner.
    If he wanted a bike with a tensioner, he wouldn't be looking for a frame with track ends.

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    im also pretty sure the sub-22 had vertical dropouts.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Yep, the pics I found on an image search showed vertical dropouts like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by alexrex20 View Post
    if you need to remove both wheels every time you load the bike in the car, you'll want a frame with sliding dropouts like these:




    that way, you don't have to mess with chain tension and brake alignment (if you have discs) every time you load/unload the bike.
    Better yet, get one of these

    Responds to gravity

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    I owned a Sub-22 some years back, and it had horizontal drops I was told about 500 were made. I really loved that bike, stiff, tough, light and just fit me right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak View Post
    Better yet, get one of these

    a surfboard repair shop?

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    I miss my beloved Sub22. I sure hope the meth head who stole has gotten good use out of it. Horizontal or vertical dropouts I'ld buy the bike Sub22's are awesome.

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