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    Quote Originally Posted by Grettiron
    i'm curious if there's any connection between the passionate biking obsession and the (some might say unhealthy) thirst for beer/liquor/wine/pick your poison. talking with my father a while ago, the subject came up, and i defended my drinking habits against his tea-toteling viewpoint. he pointed out the fanatical devotion to riding as an indicator to a personality predisposed to alcoholism. i still think that's not the case because, given a choice between the two, i'd definately drop drinking for riding.

    so my question is, does your riding passion translate to other areas of your life? specifically beer (or whatever. beer is best anyway, imo)? i figure being in the singlespeed forum, you all have more than a passing interest in riding

    guess i'm just looking for someone out there with a like mind, 'cause there's not anyone around here
    in 3 hrs it will be Miller time. I will don the biker garb, get on the Pacer (I slapped on a freewheel and rear brake on it this AM), and I will ride home. I will comment about my day to Sarah as I play with my daughter, Annabel. Then, as the evening winds down, I might open a cold one, or two.

    I don't think I am harming anyone, or myself for that matter. I drink beer because I like the taste, but I know when enough is enough. I don't smoke. Cahondeo will follow.

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    drinking habits?

    i'm curious if there's any connection between the passionate biking obsession and the (some might say unhealthy) thirst for beer/liquor/wine/pick your poison. talking with my father a while ago, the subject came up, and i defended my drinking habits against his tea-toteling viewpoint. he pointed out the fanatical devotion to riding as an indicator to a personality predisposed to alcoholism. i still think that's not the case because, given a choice between the two, i'd definately drop drinking for riding.

    so my question is, does your riding passion translate to other areas of your life? specifically beer (or whatever. beer is best anyway, imo)? i figure being in the singlespeed forum, you all have more than a passing interest in riding

    guess i'm just looking for someone out there with a like mind, 'cause there's not anyone around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grettiron
    i'm curious if there's any connection between the passionate biking obsession and the (some might say unhealthy) thirst for beer/liquor/wine/pick your poison. talking with my father a while ago, the subject came up, and i defended my drinking habits against his tea-toteling viewpoint. he pointed out the fanatical devotion to riding as an indicator to a personality predisposed to alcoholism. i still think that's not the case because, given a choice between the two, i'd definately drop drinking for riding.

    so my question is, does your riding passion translate to other areas of your life? specifically beer (or whatever. beer is best anyway, imo)? i figure being in the singlespeed forum, you all have more than a passing interest in riding

    guess i'm just looking for someone out there with a like mind, 'cause there's not anyone around here
    Well, being of somewhat of an obbsessive/compulsive person (having a girlfriend with a Hons. in Psychology is a nightmare sometimes!) I can say while I love riding, my music collection (A-Z obviously!) and a drink once in a while.

    Singlemalt is the current favorite (Ardbeg, Laphroaig etc...) although beer is good too! I went 2 years with nothing having spent 3 years in a band and drinking pretty much every weekend at gigs / practice / socialy (only a couple of pints!) I really did not miss it and found I could have just as much fun without a beer.

    Having a beer or two with friends is OK, its when you can't get through a day with out a beer....then thats a problem!

    As to cyclists being obbsessive I guess we are no wors than other sports-nuts!

    Anyway, my pizza is on its way and I have an early start for the Dunwich Dynamo 120mile ride. Now what to put in the hip-flask for the tipple at the finish line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlespeedpunk
    Now what to put in the hip-flask for the tipple at the finish line?
    Since you're askin', I say fillerup with Dalwhinnie!

    PS: I'll meet ya at the finish line...
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    I have always been active. Skier, Sailor, hiker, biker etc. I also had a big drug and alcohol problem and for sseveral years, I kinda dropped all the other stuff, got out of shape and lazy, strung out and sick. Eventually I looked around at my life and the people I was hanging out with (compared to the ones I wanted to be hanging out with) and headed off to rehab.

    That was in 1988 and I haven't had a drink, or done any drugs at all since then. I ride a lot more, I have run two marathons, and done numerous centuries, two 24 hr. races and the Death Ride.It's easier to get up in the morning, it's easier to lose weight when I need to. It's easier to save a few bucks for bike-bling, and I don't spend as much time in jail.
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    I love to bike. I love to drink. I'm 19.

    I'm a very healthy individual, a runner, a body builder (well im getting there), and a cyclist.

    I love a dark ale (bass mmm), or some scotch whiskey with some ice.

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    i love drinkin a few, then going for a ride. aint nothing wrong with it. theres a reason why i just bought the spaceman flask holder. me likey boozy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messofzero
    i love drinkin a few, then going for a ride. aint nothing wrong with it. theres a reason why i just bought the spaceman flask holder. me likey boozy.
    haha. I wont drink before I go on a trail ride or anything during the day... but it's fun when i'm wandering around campus with a few friends wasted to jump on my bike and ride around the campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messofzero
    truth! bar hopping on a bike is so much fun. i hardly ever go on trails after drinking either, usually because im fairly more serious about riding well, and alcohol isnt the trick to doing well on singletrack.
    well too much can screw you up. but just enough could give you just enough balls and confidence to do better than average

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjh_mtb
    haha. I wont drink before I go on a trail ride or anything during the day... but it's fun when i'm wandering around campus with a few friends wasted to jump on my bike and ride around the campus.
    truth! bar hopping on a bike is so much fun. i hardly ever go on trails after drinking either, usually because im fairly more serious about riding well, and alcohol isnt the trick to doing well on singletrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjh_mtb
    I love a dark ale (bass mmm), or some scotch whiskey with some ice.

    Bass ain't dark. Newcastle is dark. Not that Bass is bad, I'll take it when I want something light. Beats the crap out of most of the swill for sale in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Moody
    Bass ain't dark. Newcastle is dark. Not that Bass is bad, I'll take it when I want something light. Beats the crap out of most of the swill for sale in the USA.
    well dark only in contrast to a regular beer (miller, bud). I haven't tried every beer in the world, since I can't even buy it, but for a light beer i prefer sapporo.

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    Storm King: now that's dark and technically it's still an ale. I have big problems with the drink: beer and wine of all types; single malts (I like Ardbeg); single barrel bourbons like those from VanWinkle; sometimes Martinis. I drink a whole lot and I'm not saying all of this to be a badass. I want to cut back but it's hard since I started way before I got my '98 Big Sur which began the whole biking affair. I drink every night, usually a sixpack or more if I'm not riding the next day. My GF has been good at making me ashamed of myself which cut me back from my really hard drinking days--bottle a night anyone? My best friend has the fever too which doesn't help. I actually credit biking with weaning my butt off of booze, even if I have only cut back a bit. It makes me want to be healthier and to live longer. My goal is to drink for fun; not to get drunk. Then ride, ride, ride! Work that need out of myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Moody
    Bass ain't dark. Newcastle is dark. Not that Bass is bad, I'll take it when I want something light. Beats the crap out of most of the swill for sale in the USA.
    ...you may be drinking the wrong swill my friend... we've got a ton of microbreweries in new england, and there are some real gems out there. oh the roasted malts and aromatic hops! do beer snobbery and bike obsession go together? methinks it comes from having passion... lots of passion and not enough places to put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    I'm sure that I'm in the extreme minority, but beer tastes like ass. It is a foul substance and I don't understand its appeal. I appreciate that everyone has different tastes, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't drink just cuz I don't like it.
    you're still wrong

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    I'm sure that I'm in the extreme minority, but beer tastes like ass. It is a foul substance and I don't understand its appeal. I appreciate that everyone has different tastes, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't drink just cuz I don't like it.
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    Funny you should ask...

    I just returned from dropping a 12 pack off at my LBS, who is also my sponsor. The guys are so appreciative, and having been a shop rat myself, I know what it means when a regular customer makes such a gesture. Take care of those who take care of you, esp on a crazy-ass Friday when there is a big race taking place in town, and every road cyclist in town needs last minute help before the evening time trial.

    As for me, I love a good beer or two and the occasional glass of red. Once in a while, I may even partake in some Makers and ginger ale. The main thing, IMO, is enjoying myself and being healthy. If I don't feel good (and too much drink = not feeling good for me), nothing else matters or is impotant.
    On a similar not, one of my closest friends partakes in the "puff-puff" whenever he rides; I stay away when on the road bike 'cause it just doesn't seem to go together, but once in a while I accept when rocking the SS around the beautiful forest trails.

    Moderation and knowing your body and your limits is really important, my friends. And as long as you aren't harming anyone or anything else, good on ya'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grettiron
    fanatical devotion to riding as an indicator to a personality predisposed to alcoholism.
    WTF? No.

    I'm as into bikes as just about anyone else on this board, but I'm definitely not a Type A. Instead, I'm a classic underachiever. I've always done just enough to do well, but no more. 3.7 GPA in college, because it was easy for me. If I'd wanted higher, I'd have had to study far too hard. Podiatry school instead of med school because they said they didn't care if I did well on the MCATs or not (plus they waved money at me). T-shirts instead of button shirts because buttons suck. Beer instead of wine because I don't have to discuss the beverage. Bikes...just because they're great.

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    Type A?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nat
    WTF? No.

    I'm as into bikes as just about anyone else on this board, but I'm definitely not a Type A. Instead, I'm a classic underachiever. I've always done just enough to do well, but no more. 3.7 GPA in college, because it was easy for me. If I'd wanted higher, I'd have had to study far too hard. Podiatry school instead of med school because they said they didn't care if I did well on the MCATs or not (plus they waved money at me). T-shirts instead of button shirts because buttons suck. Beer instead of wine because I don't have to discuss the beverage. Bikes...just because they're great.

    type A? whoa there... how'd you get that outta my post? i don't get it.
    bikes are great tho! well, more like riding the bikes is great, better than staring at bike porn (hot stuff!). the porn just makes the work day go by

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grettiron
    type A? whoa there... how'd you get that outta my post? i don't get it.
    Somewhere in there. Don't ask me where. I don't get it either.

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    i drink once in a while to socialize, but i personally don't like drinking much. i've never been drunk.

    and neither do i understand the infatuation with alcohol, esp. beer, that seesm ubiquitous in this forum and elsewhere (notably university campuses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by weather
    and neither do i understand the infatuation with alcohol, esp. beer, that seesm ubiquitous in this forum and elsewhere (notably university campuses).
    Those darn college kids. Next thing you know they'll be dancing and having sex.

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    Well

    I do have a few post ride beers and then ride home. My buddy at work and I were discussing cyclists and their rate of obeying traffic laws. I am pretty good at obeying the law and he knows it. Then he said "what about riding after a few beers, that's illegal." I said " yea, but it's part of the single speed/fixie culture", to which he replied "bullsh**, it's just your culture."
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    I'm sure that I'm in the extreme minority, but beer tastes like ass. It is a foul substance and I don't understand its appeal. I appreciate that everyone has different tastes, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't drink just cuz I don't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    beer tastes like ass.
    NEVER make that type of comparison! You just gave yourself away. Now everyone knows.
    Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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    I try to earn my beers

    I like to drink a good beer or two and sometimes a glass of red wine. I never get drunk....... at least not for years. Lately, I try to only have a beer if I have earned it by working out on a good ride, or other hard physical effort. I keep a mini fridge stocked with a variety of choice brews in the garage. I must admit, sometimes some simple bike wrenching will earn a beer.

    Tonight I'll probably have two or at least one real big one, I had a brutal, long, hot, hilly road ride this morning and I earned it for sure.
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    Beer is OK

    But I wouldn't be terribly upset if I could never have another one.

    Take away my bikes and you'd have a fight on your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Tuesday
    beer tastes like ass.
    LOL! Either you're not drinking the same brands I am, or you've done some serious damage to the old taste buds.
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    I like a fine lager

    a good wine (red or white, not too dry), a good rum and coke, and any good $60+ dollar bottle of tequila on the rocks or in a margarita. I hate whiskey of all kinds (sorry fellas, just don't like the taste) Basically, I like GOOD alcohol, and being poor, that means I don't drink in large quantities. I've only been drunk twice, both times were accidents in tropical climes (umbrella drinks by the pool catch up to you fast). I enjoy the tast of alcohol, not the feeling of too much. I probably drink a total of four to five drinks/week. I'm also a dedicated cyclist. If that's not self-control, I'm not sure what is. I've always maintained that it's harder to drink in moderation than not to drink at all.
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    Well those that don't drink(the person you refer to in your original post I believe) won't understand your desire to drink. I personally agree with the fact that passion can spill over into various parts of your life. But to say that being a passionate rider makes you more likely to be an alcoholic is pure BS. Not all stockbrokers are cokeheads as movies about the late 80s would have us believe. I drink on a regular basis but cannot recall the last time I was drunk. Those that drink to get drunk or to forget are the ones drinking for the wrong reasons. Nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation IMO. And yes most american beer is swill. Thank God for the micros and specialty brewers.

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    i dont drink that often... only in the daytime, and at nighttime.

    im extremely discriminating when it comes to beer... and this discrimination works against my wallet. why cant the public drink better beer so they'll lower in price???
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    I'm a cheap date, I can't drink much and two is usually more than enough. Beer makes me break out and swell, so that's not much of an option (although a few sips won't trigger the allergies). A good marg after the ride is nice, as long as it's not too sweet (hard ciders are nice, too). My tastebuds like the good stuff (yep, the expensive oak aged single malts and super nice anejos and Aussie Shiraz, Italian Barolos...) so it's a blessing that I can't drink much of it.

    On the other hand a different kind of pint is wonderful and I can't understand why the Ben & Jerry's come with replaceable lids....
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    Quote Originally Posted by screampint
    On the other hand a different kind of pint is wonderful and I can't understand why the Ben & Jerry's come with replaceable lids....
    That's easy. To keep the worms from escaping when the kid is getting ready to go fishing.
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    I ride a lot, and I drink a lot. End(o) of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screampint
    Italian Barolos...) so it's a blessing that I can't drink much of it.
    This is redundant. That being said, I like Barolo, too. The best wine I have ever tasted was a Barolo.

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    Liquid Bread!

    Love good Beer. NewCastle brown, Sammy Smiths Nut Brown Ale, Yuengling Lager, Franzikaner, Chamay, avoid Most American swill (Budget Beers) - I'll drink it if it's handed to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grettiron
    i'm curious if there's any connection between the passionate biking obsession and the (some might say unhealthy) thirst for beer/liquor/wine/pick your poison. talking with my father a while ago, the subject came up, and i defended my drinking habits against his tea-toteling viewpoint. he pointed out the fanatical devotion to riding as an indicator to a personality predisposed to alcoholism. i still think that's not the case because, given a choice between the two, i'd definately drop drinking for riding.

    so my question is, does your riding passion translate to other areas of your life? specifically beer (or whatever. beer is best anyway, imo)? i figure being in the singlespeed forum, you all have more than a passing interest in riding

    guess i'm just looking for someone out there with a like mind, 'cause there's not anyone around here
    I hear ya, much to my detriment, moderation has never been my strong point. If one is good, then 6 must be really good, and ten must be...

    I'm still looking for more positive ways to channel excess, uh... energy
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    no beer here... unless its virgils premium micro-brewed rootbeer, made with real cane sugar. sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brado1
    Love good Beer. NewCastle brown, Sammy Smiths Nut Brown Ale, Yuengling Lager, Franzikaner, Chamay, avoid Most American swill (Budget Beers) - I'll drink it if it's handed to me

    Patron Anejo is my prefered poision!
    American swill is an acquired taste. Most people don't have the sophisticated palate to properly appreciate the fine brews of Milwaukee and St. Louis. When I was a young chump, I proudly prefered to drink dark beers, because that's what the cool kids were drinking. Now I have the ability to drink a standard can of American brew and appreciate it for what it is, the Coke of alcoholic beverages.

    As far as Cola goes, I can't stand the American swill. I only drink bottled, micro-brewed, nut brown sammy castle new smiths partially hydrogenated lager-like cola bean extract premium special blend, manufactured in the caves of Germany and aged in casks under the Indian Ocean, ingested by a manitee, then reconstituted and expelled forthwith. If you drink anything less, you're uncivilized

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    Funny what living in Europe will do for ya...

    Not that I ever had a problem drinking in the States, I was one of those college kids drinking, dancing and having sex. Used to drink far too much unfortunately which meant too much weight gain and thus a lot less sex...

    Then I rediscovered the joys of riding a bicycle, O lovely simple machine! It took a while but a couple years after college I was down to nearly the same weight I was in high school and still am 10+ years on. I dont ride nearly as much as I would like but at least I dont drink as much as I used to then, but that doesnt mean I dont enjoy a good beer or nice glass of wine whenever I please. (Sure do miss the really good AZ anejos though)

    Thing about living in Europe is that alcohol is everywhere. You can buy it in any little shop, restuarant and hot dog stand you walk up to. At any time, day or night. You can walk anywhere with it and drink it where ever you want. Does that mean there is more drunks here? No. The point of this long analogy was to say that you cant take something - as passion for rid√*ng and say that will lead to something else. Thats plain stupid, a simple non-understanding of cause and effect.

    Ride your bike, drink what you want. If you are not bothering anybody else by doing it than tell them to walk (ride) in your shoes or pi$$ off. Plain and simple...

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    I'll vote with OneGearGuy on this one. His opinion is pretty similar to mine. Moderation in everything you do will allow you to do so much more but I don't see the need to defend my actions or pass judgement on others about single speeding or drinking beer. I'm not hurting anyone other than myself.

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    right now with 100+ degree temperature i can use a glass of ice cold becks. beer somehow cools you down more than other carbonated drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjh_mtb
    well too much can screw you up. but just enough could give you just enough balls and confidence to do better than average
    that's how people rationalize drinking and driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screampint
    I'm a cheap date, I can't drink much and two is usually more than enough. Beer makes me break out and swell, so that's not much of an option (although a few sips won't trigger the allergies). A good marg after the ride is nice, as long as it's not too sweet (hard ciders are nice, too). My tastebuds like the good stuff (yep, the expensive oak aged single malts and super nice anejos and Aussie Shiraz, Italian Barolos...) so it's a blessing that I can't drink much of it.

    On the other hand a different kind of pint is wonderful and I can't understand why the Ben & Jerry's come with replaceable lids....
    training & racing has made me a very cheap date. in fact, it has made most of my friends cheap dates as well. i can buy a 6-pack, invite 6 of my racing buddies over, and have beer leftover when everyone leaves at the end of the night.

    i like beer. i also like good wine. i'm not a big fan of most hard alcohol but a bombay saffire and tonic may be the nectar of the gods. i just can't drink them because if one is good, 18 are likley to be consumed and hospitalization will soon follow (105 lbs, 10% body fat and 18 G&Ts. you do the math. )

    do i think that people who are predisposed to become fanatical about riding (or any athletic hobby for that matter) are also likely to become alcoholics? no. but they do share some common compulsive traits.

    oh, and why do ben & jerry's containers come with replaceable lids? screampint's right - what a waste of packaging.

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    Best beer I ever had was March of last year, as I crossed the finish line of the Vision Quest.
    10hours and 30+ minutes of nothing but water, Hammer Gel, 58 miles of riding, 2 miles of hiking, and 11,500 feet of vertical gain.
    I crossed the finish line and some sweet friends handed me an ice cold Newcastle Brown Ale. I can't remember actually sipping on it since all of the sudden, it was empty. All of the sudden, my brain felt funny. Turns out no food for 10 hours and 10 hours of riding makes your body process alcohol a little fast!
    So, to celebrate, I had another. mmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by *rt*
    training & racing has made me a very cheap date. in fact, it has made most of my friends cheap dates as well. i can buy a 6-pack, invite 6 of my racing buddies over, and have beer leftover when everyone leaves at the end of the night.

    i like beer. i also like good wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjh_mtb
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    LOL. sorry, but you're too young for me.

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    trust me, I get old, FAST.

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    Hahahahaha!

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    trust me, I get old, FAST.
    LOL. i'll bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Moody
    Bass ain't dark. Newcastle is dark. Not that Bass is bad, I'll take it when I want something light. Beats the crap out of most of the swill for sale in the USA.

    newcastle is shyte (yeah I realize I'm in the minority here).... Guinness.... my goodness, my Guinness!

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