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    Don't call it singlespeed

    (WARNING: not for the anti-pedantic)


    Singlespeeding should be renamed to 1-geared biking (SS --> 1G).

    Think about it.. I may only run one gear ratio, but I can ride my bike at many different speeds.

    Case in point: when I'm out riding with my 4-year old son, I go about 10kph. When I'm biking to work, I average 20 kph. When I'm trying to get away from the neighbor's dog, I go 30 kph. All on the same, 1-geared bike.

    I guess the term "speed" here is culled from the automotive industry, where they equated "speed" with "gear"

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    This is inspired by Sparty's post A dinglespeed is not a singlespeed
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    One gear bike riding is more acurate. It should be one gear RATIO riding. You do need two gears to achive a ratio. One gear is inneffective. However, technically we can only ride in one gear ratio at a time even on a 27 possible gear ratio bike. You know with deraileurs and such. Isn't this also confusing. I.E. only one gear ratio at a time is ridden regardless of the possible combinations available on said bike. Much like the original confusion over "dinglespeeding". To be most acurate I think we all enjoy two gear choiceless exclusive single ratio riding. Except for those of us on belt drive, they enjoy two pulley choiceless exclusive single ratio riding.

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    I am going to go out and rock some trails on my T.G.C.E.S.R.R.! Dude. When speaking of the bike it is a Two Gear Choiceless Exclusive Single Ratio Ride. It could also end in riding for use as a verb.

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    One ratio! Rhymes with fel....

    Wait a minute. More Nyquil, please.

    Hey seriously, you're absolutely right. But just as Scotch Tape and Kleenex and Coke have displaced transparent tape, facial tissue and cola, I'm afraid "singlespeed" might be too imbedded in the lexicon. Regardless, I'm going to try "single ratio" on people for the next couple weeks and see how it goes.

    "Hey man, nice singleratio!" Kinda rolls off the tongue, doesn't it.

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    This means will have to start a singleratio photo thread....or two.

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    singlegearinches ftw!
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    I personally prefer derailleur challenged mountain cyclist (DCMC).
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    I like DCMC. I also like KISS for reference to singlespeeding. Either Keep It Single Speed or Keep It Simple Stupid.
    Ne quid nimis.
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    ...man you guys got a lot of free time, go out and ride.
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    The OP is playing fast and loose with semantics and indeed has too much idle time on his/her hands. "Single speed" is fluid and alliterative, not to mention, adequately descriptive. I don't think anyone--even the bicycling neophyte--is in danger of thinking that "single speed" means that such bikes are unable to travel at anything but one speed.

    By the OP's logic, the renaming would necessarily affect other multi-geared vehicles as well: 27-speed bikes and cars with 6-speed slushboxes, for example.
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    How can I have the same number of posts on two different posts?

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    Now on three? Oh I get it. It updates all posts. Never replied to the same thread close enough to notice this feature, er quirk or whatever before. This is actually the 247th post. All others were previous.

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    Nerds!

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    It should be named after me...

    "Vulgar Display of Power"

    or

    "VD - O - P"

    Do you have a VDOP?

    Hey-What do ya think huh, huh.

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    Do you have VD?

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    so, instead of calling it "sunrise" and "sunset" could we just call it another half (plus or minus depending on time of year) of a revolution with reference to the sun?

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    Inbound or outbound tangential sunstrike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    Inbound or outbound tangential sunstrike.

    --sParty

    I thought you said you were off the nyquil.

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    This thread blew up the ghey-0-meter.

    how 'bout mono cog or shiftless bike.
    Sit and spin my ass...

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    I think the point is single-speed as opposed to 18-speed or 21-speed, etc. "Speed" is dubbed (traditionally) for "gearing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by marxuser
    I thought you said you were off the nyquil.
    Superior intellect can be a heavy burden.

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    Why does the carpet smell like cat pee over there?
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    Bringing philosophy into biking is just a bad idea. I'll stick with singlespeed.

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    How about "shifter free" bicycle?

    That would mean multispeeds, the term I generally use when refering to bikes with more than one cog on the drive train, are "Full of Shift"?

    Hey Sparty, did the antibiotics they give you clear up that spirochete infestation?
    Authorities speculate that speed may have been a factor. They are also holding gravity and inertia for questioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeine Powered
    How about "shifter free" bicycle?...
    Yeahbutt... dingles lack shifters, and yet... they manage to shift gears. Somehow. Yet we've all agreed that dingles are not singlespeeds. Uh, haven't we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeine Powered
    ...Hey Sparty, did the antibiotics they give you clear up that spirochete infestation?
    Those are some powerful bugs, my friend. Had 'em so long I've grown rather fond of 'em. At what point do they stop being considered germs and start being considered small pets? I dunno...

    Hey, on a related note, how's your sore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    Yeahbutt... dingles lack shifters, and yet... they manage to shift gears. Somehow. Yet we've all agreed that dingles are not singlespeeds. Uh, haven't we?



    Those are some powerful bugs, my friend. Had 'em so long I've grown rather fond of 'em. At what point do they stop being considered germs and start being considered small pets? I dunno...

    Hey, on a related note, how's your sore?

    --sParty

    As long as the can of worms is open, what to do about Flip-flop hubs off road? Are they "multiple personality disorder" bikes?

    Thanks for asking about the sore. It's near the base, but I'm able to work the shaft.
    Authorities speculate that speed may have been a factor. They are also holding gravity and inertia for questioning.

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    Back when I did some singlespeed racing early this century, I was told that as long as my flip-flop hub did not have a 2nd cog on it, I would not be DQ'd.

    I knew right then that any bike capable of shifting gears on the trail, no matter how inconvenient, was not a singlespeed. Therefore I never take a 2nd cog (for my easily changeable freehub), nor the relatively small, lightweight tools to change gears, along in my Camelbak. Unless I'm willing to be labeled a gearie.

    OMG! Not THAT!

    Actually I just told a lie. I don't wear a Camelbak. I wear a WingNut. Whew. Couldn't live with myself there for a second.

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    Just breezed over the thread, so I don't know if it's already been mentioned, but what about the 10-speeds? 24-speeds? 27-speeds? Do they portrait a bicycle that are limited to go 10 - 27 different speeds?

    "Speed" in this sense does not mean the measure of the rate of motion, but rather the gear ratio of the bike (or a car).

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/speed

    "Singlespeed" is the correct term.

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    Leave it alone.

    We know what SS'ing is about, and what it means. It means "no shifters", standing up to kick a big hills ass, or the fun to pass a miss-shifted geared bike on a hill. Its about riding w/ less stops for adjusting something. Its a feeling that, "I can do it without all the thing and the bling", and All the bs that the salesman will try to sell you with your new bike. Nothing against the LBS salesman. I love the LBS and buy from them. I try to buy a new bike every few years. SS is about riding and doing it with less. Please try it. You will love it. Its like the feeling you had when you just got out of 7th grade for the summer. You left the house on Saturday morning, after doing your chores, on your bike with no where to go, and all the time to do it. God Damn that was a good feeling. I almost feel that good when out on my SS. Enjoy.

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    Yeah this thread is for humor's sake only. I drive a 5-speed, and ride a single speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonracerrichie
    Yeah this thread is for humor's sake only
    Bingo! (not that this was meant to be a contest)

    Thanks to all who responded to this post, seeing it for what it is... just the lingua en jowl ( ) musings of a bored guy, aching to find the time to ride my "one-geared, multi-speed" bicycle.

    Of particular note (as usual) are sParty's posts (hope you're healing [have healed?] well). Those always crack me up!

    If anything, this thread has shown me how kooky you bunch of SSers are, and I'm proud to know you all (if only virtually).

    Apologies to those who got either riled up or just plain annoyed; I meant no offense. As Nonracerrichie said...

    As for going out to ride... unfortunately, I've had to put my "gears" and shifters back (and that dang heavy suspension fork), as I'm trying to sell my bike in order to raise the funds to get a proper, SS/1G-specific bike. A potential buyer was supposed to meet up to see the bike over the weekend, but he never confirmed the meeting
    And I promised the missus I won't make any purchases 'til after the bike is sold

    So now I'm stuck with a heavy, [bad] shifting bike. Which brings me to another point:
    The profundity of the simplicity of going SS/1G never hit harder than when I was trying to tune the shifting of my SRAM X7 drivetrain. Man, what a pain! (not yet fully tuned so I don't want to ride it yet; even if just to get a ride in) I don't think I'll EVER go back to multi-geared bikes EVER again! (Alfine is kinda sexy though... )

    Again, apologies in advance to anyone else who comes across this post and gets upset.
    For the rest of you, keep the funky thoughts flowing...

    Keep the corners of your mouth up, and the rubber side of your bike down...

    cheers mates!
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    Quote Originally Posted by henrymiller1
    We know what SS'ing is about, and what it means. It means "no shifters", standing up to kick a big hills ass, or the fun to pass a miss-shifted geared bike on a hill...
    And the fun of trying to hang on with the geared guys on the road sections after you just gave them a sound beating on the climb. Yet, my singlespeeds are still my favorite bikes.

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