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    Budget EBB frames? (e.g. Raleigh XXIX)

    I've done a limited search of currently available off-the-shelf SS bikes that are in the "fairly affordable" bracket, and noticed only the Raleigh XXIX sports an EBB. As my search was "limited," I could have overlooked other options.

    Are there any other stock SS frames/bikes in this price range (sub $800?) that feature EBBs?

    Raleigh XXIX owners, how are your EBBs holding up?
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Carver 96er frames are only $399. I "think" that you can actually fit a 650b rear wheel in them.

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    Jenson was selling Zion 660 ebb's for a while. At first they were $250 for the frame then went down to <$150. As of now they are not selling them but you might to keep an eye out.

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    The 2008 GT Peace 9r has an Ebb, mine has held up fine.

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    OS Blackbuck

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    There's only one size, though. 18.5"
    disclaimer: I sell and repair bicycles

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    Soul Cycles Hooligan (26") and Dillenger (29")
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    i have a zion 29er ebb frame.

    it was only 120 bucks.

    it's a good bike, i just don't have a need for it rignt now.

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    My raleigh has held up just fine. For the money, it's hard to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eat_dirt
    i have a zion 29er ebb frame.

    it was only 120 bucks.

    it's a good bike, i just don't have a need for it rignt now.
    You trying to sell it? If so, what size? PM me if its 19" or 21"

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    My Raleigh XXIX has held up for me for over a season. No problems or slippage with it at all. For that money, can't beat it.

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    I was wondering what the advantage of an EBB was? I tried to stay away from it when I was shopping for a SS due to some of the people complaining about slipping/creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p nut
    I was wondering what the advantage of an EBB was? I tried to stay away from it when I was shopping for a SS due to some of the people complaining about slipping/creaking.
    not that I'm an expert... but it seems to be a "pick your poison" scenario, particularly if you want to run disc brakes.

    I went with an EBB because I found a frame I liked at a price I liked that came with an EBB

    Paragon style sliding dropouts look good too, although I have witnessed those dropouts creaking, and similar dropouts slipping - so they are not immune to the problems that you describe.

    I had a Surly non disc frame with horizontal dropouts, alignment was a problem even without disc brakes - when I took the wheel out, fixed a flat, put the wheel back in, the brakes were often mis-aligned with the rim by enough that I either had to adjust the wheel or brake - doubly frustrating as much of my riding is in the dark.

    To be fair, I have had good luck with mine. It doesn't seem to slip - or not enough to cause problems anyway - and so far my "creaky EBB" problems have turned out to be caused by something other than the EBB creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madcap
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    There's only one size, though. 18.5"
    Thanks for the input, but that's a little too out of my price range.
    (and the only available size is too big for me)
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel
    I've done a limited search of currently available off-the-shelf SS bikes that are in the "fairly affordable" bracket, and noticed only the Raleigh XXIX sports an EBB. As my search was "limited," I could have overlooked other options.

    Are there any other stock SS frames/bikes in this price range (sub $800?) that feature EBBs?

    Raleigh XXIX owners, how are your EBBs holding up?
    Thanks for all the input so far.

    Glad to hear that the "budget" EBBs aren't as problematic as the general impression of EBBs as a whole are.

    Forgot to mention that I prefer steel over alu.

    Thanks again (keep the suggestions coming!).
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grundy
    Soul Cycles Hooligan (26") and Dillenger (29")
    http://ridesoul.com/
    Easton (and the price) is nice, but I prefer steel.

    Thanks for the suggestion
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbollox
    The 2008 GT Peace 9r has an Ebb, mine has held up fine.
    I wonder why they ditched the EBB for 2009...
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel
    I wonder why they ditched the EBB for 2009...
    Most likely cheaper to make the frame: standard geared BB shell, no EBB insert, simple rear dropouts

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    FYI, My Peace 9r frame is for sale on the bay. Large size.

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    About 1800 miles on my xxix so far and not a single problem with the ebb... would highly recommend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel
    I wonder why they ditched the EBB for 2009...
    I think it was more to do with weight than anything...

    My 2008 EBB works a treat, I actually prefer it to be honest over track ends.

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    got my xxix as soon as they were released, had an order in with my raleigh rep early on, never had a single issue with the EBB i ride it year round in chicago and have full submerged the bottom bracket a number of times as well riding in creeks and the what not

    last spring i pulled the ebb assembly out to clean it up and all was good

    bike has been worth every penny

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    +1 for Soul Cycles

    I also picked up a Soul Cycles (www.ridesoul.com) frame, the "Hooligan" with an EBB. I am very pleased with this frame (and my build, if I do say so myself). I did hear some creeking on an early ride and upon close inspection of the EBB realized that there is a canal area for the two locking screws. I had pushed my EBB out of alignment in order to match up with my cog. DOH! Rookie move. When I realized what I had done, I simply realigned the EBB, adjusted the cog spacing and no more creaking. Now when I change cogs I am careful to loosen the screws enough to rotate the EBB in order to tighten/loosen the chain, bot NOT to slide the EBB from side to side. I have been on three good rides since and the only noise is coming from my slightly bent front rotor. Oh well, the wheel still spins so ride on!

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    My XXIX EBB has been trouble free. It is great and really helps when you need to adjust the pedals for techie areas IMHO. You can easily raise or lower the cranks to fit the trails that you are riding; high for tech, low for carving.

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    I just recently purchased a leftover 2007 xxix and love it!.....sold my santa cruz superlight FS to go singlespeed to check out all the excitement. I couldnt believe how much easier it was to ride than my Superlight, I dont have to mess with gears before climbs or anything else, I just go ride, climbs awesome and no probs with the EBB at all.

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    Singular cycles comes with a phil wood ebb. Retail on the frame/fork/ebb is going to be $465. I'll have 29'ers[swift, gryphon], 26"[Hummingbird] and monster cross[Peregrine].
    Just a regular guy.

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